Rate This Thread - Mass Exodus.


Like this thread? Help the BGR community grow by sharing it with your friends.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-06-2017, 09:52 AM
Brother Xavier's Avatar
Brother Xavier Brother Xavier is offline
Statistician
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 207
Likes: 20
Liked 18 Times in 15 Posts
Brother Xavier is on a distinguished road
Default Mass Exodus
With the new retirement reform coming down soon...how many open coaching positions will we see come the next few years. I know there are a few coaches who are 100 day guys that will have to go, such as Phillip Haywood and Mark Brown not to mention many many more that I don't know about who are doing the same. There will also be guys who are close to retirement that would have stayed to coach but now will probably retire so they can still get their full benefits. I'm surprised we haven't discussed this with all the KTRS talk and such. What are your thoughts?
Send a private message to Brother Xavier Add Brother Xavier to Your Contacts Top of page Reply With Quote

Click Here to become a member and join in on the discussions at BGR. Our membership is always 100% FREE.

  #2  
Old 11-06-2017, 10:07 AM
TheHotSnakes TheHotSnakes is offline
Cheerleader
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 332
Likes: 61
Liked 84 Times in 66 Posts
TheHotSnakes is on a distinguished road
Default
It's going to impact the older coaches, and the amount of new/young coaches entering.
Send a private message to TheHotSnakes Add TheHotSnakes to Your Contacts Top of page Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-06-2017, 10:12 AM
Single Wing 77 Single Wing 77 is online now
Scout Team
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 723
Likes: 83
Liked 291 Times in 174 Posts
Single Wing 77 is on a distinguished road
Default
I think some of those older coaches may stop teaching, but they'll probably keep coaching.
Send a private message to Single Wing 77 Add Single Wing 77 to Your Contacts Top of page Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-06-2017, 10:17 AM
PHSForever's Avatar
PHSForever PHSForever is offline
Head Coach
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Setting sail with Capt. Morgan and never leaving dry land
Posts: 2,877
Likes: 1,742
Liked 1,401 Times in 843 Posts
PHSForever is on a distinguished road
Default
Do the KHsAA rules allow for head coaches to be paraprofessionals? If not, will there be a membership push to change that so that some coaches can retire from teaching and continue as head coaches?
Send a private message to PHSForever Add PHSForever to Your Contacts Top of page Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-06-2017, 10:22 AM
TheHotSnakes TheHotSnakes is offline
Cheerleader
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 332
Likes: 61
Liked 84 Times in 66 Posts
TheHotSnakes is on a distinguished road
Default
Originally Posted by PHSForever View Post
Do the KHsAA rules allow for head coaches to be paraprofessionals? If not, will there be a membership push to change that so that some coaches can retire from teaching and continue as head coaches?
I know several coaches who aren't teachers, and aren't employed by the school as anything other than a HC.
Send a private message to TheHotSnakes Add TheHotSnakes to Your Contacts Top of page Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-06-2017, 10:25 AM
Brother Xavier's Avatar
Brother Xavier Brother Xavier is offline
Statistician
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 207
Likes: 20
Liked 18 Times in 15 Posts
Brother Xavier is on a distinguished road
Default
The way I understand it...the only way they could still coach is if they volunteer or go to a private school where they could get paid. One issue that has come up with this new reform is that retirees can't be substitute teachers or 100 day teachers/Administrators. This will mess over the coaches because in order to get paid a coach has to be in the system. If they are retired then they don't have that option hence they might/will be a mass exodus of coaches in the state of Kentucky.
Send a private message to Brother Xavier Add Brother Xavier to Your Contacts Top of page Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-06-2017, 10:27 AM
Brother Xavier's Avatar
Brother Xavier Brother Xavier is offline
Statistician
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 207
Likes: 20
Liked 18 Times in 15 Posts
Brother Xavier is on a distinguished road
Default
At least for those who are close to retirement.
Send a private message to Brother Xavier Add Brother Xavier to Your Contacts Top of page Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-06-2017, 10:40 AM
Single Wing 77 Single Wing 77 is online now
Scout Team
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 723
Likes: 83
Liked 291 Times in 174 Posts
Single Wing 77 is on a distinguished road
Default
Depends on how much they love it. The ones who do will probably take the retirement, get a part time job somewhere else in town and volunteer to coach. I'm sure some of the legendary coaches around the state wouldn't have much of a problem finding a part time job around town that pay a decent amount.
Send a private message to Single Wing 77 Add Single Wing 77 to Your Contacts Top of page Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-06-2017, 11:05 AM
WILDCAT NATION's Avatar
WILDCAT NATION WILDCAT NATION is offline
Scout Team
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 729
Likes: 156
Liked 93 Times in 71 Posts
WILDCAT NATION is on a distinguished road
Default
Originally Posted by Brother Xavier View Post
The way I understand it...the only way they could still coach is if they volunteer or go to a private school where they could get paid. One issue that has come up with this new reform is that retirees can't be substitute teachers or 100 day teachers/Administrators. This will mess over the coaches because in order to get paid a coach has to be in the system. If they are retired then they don't have that option hence they might/will be a mass exodus of coaches in the state of Kentucky.
Is there an athletic exemption to the rule? If not then yes this is a bombshell.
Send a private message to WILDCAT NATION Add WILDCAT NATION to Your Contacts Top of page Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-06-2017, 11:17 AM
Brother Xavier's Avatar
Brother Xavier Brother Xavier is offline
Statistician
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 207
Likes: 20
Liked 18 Times in 15 Posts
Brother Xavier is on a distinguished road
Default
Originally Posted by WILDCAT NATION View Post
Is there an athletic exemption to the rule? If not then yes this is a bombshell.
It's not official...it just a proposal as of right now. But as it stands there isn't an athletic exemption.
Send a private message to Brother Xavier Add Brother Xavier to Your Contacts Top of page Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 11-06-2017, 11:21 AM
Bulldogs4Ever Bulldogs4Ever is offline
Cheerleader
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 403
Likes: 1
Liked 80 Times in 58 Posts
Bulldogs4Ever is on a distinguished road
Default
I think they need to get rid of the 100 day gravy train jobs anyway. So many coaches need to go. So many that do the bare minimum to make their extra money. I love sports more than anything but more teachers need to be hired plain and simple. And I think after someone teaches 27 years, its probably time to retire and pass the torch. I know theres some exceptional older coaches out there but there really isnt many that I know of. The education system is a mess right now. Sports do save a of kids lives I admit but more needs to be spent on education.
Likes: (1)
Easy Wind (11-08-2017)
Send a private message to Bulldogs4Ever Add Bulldogs4Ever to Your Contacts Top of page Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 11-06-2017, 11:39 AM
WILDCAT NATION's Avatar
WILDCAT NATION WILDCAT NATION is offline
Scout Team
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 729
Likes: 156
Liked 93 Times in 71 Posts
WILDCAT NATION is on a distinguished road
Default
Originally Posted by Bulldogs4Ever View Post
I think they need to get rid of the 100 day gravy train jobs anyway. So many coaches need to go. So many that do the bare minimum to make their extra money. I love sports more than anything but more teachers need to be hired plain and simple. And I think after someone teaches 27 years, its probably time to retire and pass the torch. I know theres some exceptional older coaches out there but there really isnt many that I know of. The education system is a mess right now. Sports do save a of kids lives I admit but more needs to be spent on education.
Thank you Governor Bevin. Welcome to BGR! Now back to regularly scheduled programming.......
Likes: (3)
Coupon21 (11-07-2017), Friday Night (11-07-2017), Jackson Purchase (11-08-2017)
Send a private message to WILDCAT NATION Add WILDCAT NATION to Your Contacts Top of page Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 11-06-2017, 11:45 AM
RicFlair RicFlair is offline
Statistician
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 170
Likes: 5
Liked 33 Times in 27 Posts
RicFlair is on a distinguished road
Default
Agreed with Bulldogs.... so many people are double dipping and making all kinds of money when you have recent college grads that canít find a job because people who are already drawing a pension can come back and make boat loads of money and the majority of them arenít effective in their jobs. Education has changed ALOT even since Iíve been out of college, can you imagine what they were taught 30+ years ago?
Send a private message to RicFlair Add RicFlair to Your Contacts Top of page Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 11-06-2017, 12:57 PM
Granny Bear's Avatar
Granny Bear Granny Bear is offline
BGR Staff



Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: "In the deep dark hills....."
Posts: 15,624
Likes: 6,524
Liked 5,514 Times in 3,485 Posts
Granny Bear is a jewel in the roughGranny Bear is a jewel in the roughGranny Bear is a jewel in the rough
Default
Wow. I don't know enough about this to fuss about it!!


Gonna go read about it, and be back later!
__________________



MERRY CHRISTMAS
HAPPY NEW YEAR
Likes: (1)
Hound05 (11-06-2017)
Send a private message to Granny Bear Add Granny Bear to Your Contacts Top of page Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 11-06-2017, 01:18 PM
99PIRATEFAN's Avatar
99PIRATEFAN 99PIRATEFAN is offline
Head Coach
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Belfry Ky
Posts: 2,154
Likes: 371
Liked 422 Times in 340 Posts
99PIRATEFAN is on a distinguished road
Default
Originally Posted by Bulldogs4Ever View Post
I think they need to get rid of the 100 day gravy train jobs anyway. So many coaches need to go. So many that do the bare minimum to make their extra money. I love sports more than anything but more teachers need to be hired plain and simple. And I think after someone teaches 27 years, its probably time to retire and pass the torch. I know theres some exceptional older coaches out there but there really isnt many that I know of. The education system is a mess right now. Sports do save a of kids lives I admit but more needs to be spent on education.

Hereís the problem no one will want to teach in Ky after they get done you wonít be able to find new coaches when the olds leave or teachers they are getting ready to screw our school system
Likes: (1)
Gitback Coach (11-06-2017)
Send a private message to 99PIRATEFAN Add 99PIRATEFAN to Your Contacts Top of page Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 11-06-2017, 02:02 PM
Brother Xavier's Avatar
Brother Xavier Brother Xavier is offline
Statistician
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 207
Likes: 20
Liked 18 Times in 15 Posts
Brother Xavier is on a distinguished road
Default
Originally Posted by 99PIRATEFAN View Post
Hereís the problem no one will want to teach in Ky after they get done you wonít be able to find new coaches when the olds leave or teachers they are getting ready to screw our school system
My point exactly!
Send a private message to Brother Xavier Add Brother Xavier to Your Contacts Top of page Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 11-06-2017, 02:32 PM
RunItUpTheGut's Avatar
RunItUpTheGut RunItUpTheGut is offline
MOD


Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Corbin
Posts: 27,568
Likes: 6,823
Liked 7,782 Times in 5,372 Posts
RunItUpTheGut has a spectacular aura aboutRunItUpTheGut has a spectacular aura about
Default
Originally Posted by 99PIRATEFAN View Post
Here’s the problem no one will want to teach in Ky after they get done you won’t be able to find new coaches when the olds leave or teachers they are getting ready to screw our school system
Why would anyone want to teach in KY now?
It's a low paying job, usually starting early 20k. Then you have to go back and finish ytour masters within 4 or 5 years. That's absurd. I honestly don't know why anyone would want to be a teacher in this state.

As for trhe retirement system, it's broke. No other way around it then to fix it. You shouldnt be allowed to retire in 20 years and draw over a million dollars and pass that on. Socialism doesn't work. It never works. And now this generation of treachers will pay for it.
Likes: (2)
99PIRATEFAN (11-06-2017), Hound05 (11-06-2017)

Last edited by RunItUpTheGut; 11-06-2017 at 09:25 PM.
Send a private message to RunItUpTheGut Add RunItUpTheGut to Your Contacts Top of page Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 11-06-2017, 03:20 PM
Hound05's Avatar
Hound05 Hound05 is online now
Cheerleader
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Corbin, Kentucky
Posts: 424
Likes: 168
Liked 118 Times in 91 Posts
Hound05 is on a distinguished road
Default
I never liked the teaching/coaching rule anyways. It sets up failure in the classroom in most cases, especially at ďsportsĒ schools. Youíre basically giving a good coach a job to teach and in some cases theyíre just filling in a seat and taking up someone elseís job. Iíve seen it. Now Iíve seen great coaches that do a great job teaching, and thatís fine, let them do it. But Iíd say there is better teachers out there than Haywood, haddix, Hilton, etc.... but there isnít many better coaches. Let the coaches coach, and teachers teach, if they WANT to do both, great, the school will save a little money. But donít require it.
Send a private message to Hound05 Add Hound05 to Your Contacts Top of page Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 11-06-2017, 03:53 PM
AtlPirateFan's Avatar
AtlPirateFan AtlPirateFan is offline
Starter
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cumming, GA
Posts: 1,429
Likes: 328
Liked 576 Times in 330 Posts
AtlPirateFan is on a distinguished road
Default
Originally Posted by Hound05 View Post
I never liked the teaching/coaching rule anyways. It sets up failure in the classroom in most cases, especially at “sports” schools. You’re basically giving a good coach a job to teach and in some cases they’re just filling in a seat and taking up someone else’s job. I’ve seen it. Now I’ve seen great coaches that do a great job teaching, and that’s fine, let them do it. But I’d say there is better teachers out there than Haywood, haddix, Hilton, etc.... but there isn’t many better coaches. Let the coaches coach, and teachers teach, if they WANT to do both, great, the school will save a little money. But don’t require it.
Unless things have changed Coach Haywood's role has been as a guidance counselor at Belfry, a job he takes very seriously. He was a pretty good one to me, I never played for him but never felt he anything but my best interest at heart, even after I had a "confrontation" with him and the principal at the time over state testing and my refusal to take it as a senior. He never treated me unfairly and even helped me get a scholarship after the state testing disagreement. He may have been a teacher in the past at P-Burg but for as long as I can remember he's been a guidance counselor for Belfry, so he's not "wasting" a space in a classroom.
Likes: (1)
panther nation (11-08-2017)
Send a private message to AtlPirateFan Add AtlPirateFan to Your Contacts Top of page Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 11-06-2017, 03:58 PM
RicFlair RicFlair is offline
Statistician
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 170
Likes: 5
Liked 33 Times in 27 Posts
RicFlair is on a distinguished road
Default
Originally Posted by RunItUpTheGut View Post
Why would anyone want to teach in KY now?
It's a low paying job, usually starting early 20k. Then you have to go back and finish your masters within 4 or 5 years. That's absurd. I honestly don't know why anyone would want to be a teacher in this state.

As for the retirement system, it's broke. No other way around it then to fix it. You shouldnt be allowed to retire in 20 years and draw over a million dollars and pass that on. Socialism doesn't work. It never works. And now this generation of treachers will pay for it.
In what system do you hire in at low 20s?

Last edited by RunItUpTheGut; 11-06-2017 at 09:28 PM. Reason: Fixed my typos in the quote- gut
Send a private message to RicFlair Add RicFlair to Your Contacts Top of page Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 11-06-2017, 07:20 PM
nky's Avatar
nky nky is offline
Hall of Fame

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: A fool flatters himself, a wise man flatters the fool.
Posts: 6,704
Likes: 329
Liked 1,140 Times in 796 Posts
nky is on a distinguished road
Default
You don't need to be a teacher to be a head coach. The retirement issues will not effect coaching.
Send a private message to nky Add nky to Your Contacts Top of page Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 11-06-2017, 07:23 PM
E's Army E's Army is offline
All BlueGrass Rivals

Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 13,021
Likes: 449
Liked 2,424 Times in 1,719 Posts
E's Army is on a distinguished road
Default
Real question is where will the young coaches come from. If they are not compensated they will not stay in coaching
Likes: (3)
64black&gold (11-08-2017), Cellking (11-06-2017), nky (11-06-2017)
Send a private message to E's Army Add E's Army to Your Contacts Top of page Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 11-06-2017, 08:15 PM
Hound05's Avatar
Hound05 Hound05 is online now
Cheerleader
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Corbin, Kentucky
Posts: 424
Likes: 168
Liked 118 Times in 91 Posts
Hound05 is on a distinguished road
Default
Originally Posted by AtlPirateFan View Post
Unless things have changed Coach Haywood's role has been as a guidance counselor at Belfry, a job he takes very seriously. He was a pretty good one to me, I never played for him but never felt he anything but my best interest at heart, even after I had a "confrontation" with him and the principal at the time over state testing and my refusal to take it as a senior. He never treated me unfairly and even helped me get a scholarship after the state testing disagreement. He may have been a teacher in the past at P-Burg but for as long as I can remember he's been a guidance counselor for Belfry, so he's not "wasting" a space in a classroom.
I was using that as an example- NOT as a fact- for the bigger picture. obviously I have no idea how well he does or doesn't do his job, nor really care, it was a metaphor. He may be the best thing since sliced bread, that's not the point, and that's not the basis of the post. It wasn't meant as a personal attack- obviously- or I wouldn't have put my schools coach in there. No need to get pissy about it brother. You looked at one line of the entire post and took it personal when that's not the context it was meant for. Sorry if it "offended" you. I said there is a lot of coaches who do well as teachers, according to your history with him, he probably belongs in that group (even though hes a counselor). The message is, why are we making great coaches take up spots as teachers, when their heart isn't in it, when someone else's would? We basically hire them to coach, let them coach. Or do you disagree with that?
Likes: (1)
99PIRATEFAN (11-06-2017)
Send a private message to Hound05 Add Hound05 to Your Contacts Top of page Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 11-06-2017, 09:27 PM
RunItUpTheGut's Avatar
RunItUpTheGut RunItUpTheGut is offline
MOD


Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Corbin
Posts: 27,568
Likes: 6,823
Liked 7,782 Times in 5,372 Posts
RunItUpTheGut has a spectacular aura aboutRunItUpTheGut has a spectacular aura about
Default
Originally Posted by RicFlair View Post
In what system do you hire in at low 20s?
There are several teaching jobs in the surrounding area that start that low.
One of my good friends was just offered a kindergarten position. She has he masters.
Starting pay? 23k

The biggest problem with teaching? There's to many of them, at least in this area. Several people I know with teaching degrees are sitting waiting for somebody to die or retire before they can get a job.
Send a private message to RunItUpTheGut Add RunItUpTheGut to Your Contacts Top of page Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 11-06-2017, 09:31 PM
RunItUpTheGut's Avatar
RunItUpTheGut RunItUpTheGut is offline
MOD


Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Corbin
Posts: 27,568
Likes: 6,823
Liked 7,782 Times in 5,372 Posts
RunItUpTheGut has a spectacular aura aboutRunItUpTheGut has a spectacular aura about
Default
Originally Posted by E's Army View Post
Real question is where will the young coaches come from. If they are not compensated they will not stay in coaching
You have to hand it to the guys willing to stick around and coach high school athletics.
It isn't worth triple the pay of what some of these guys are making.


IMHO if you want to fix the retirement system for state employees, bump the salaries and drop the pension program. Make the workers decide how much they want to contribute.
There's no reason teachers can't figure out a 401K. You can put in up to 15% PRE TAX into 401K
Send a private message to RunItUpTheGut Add RunItUpTheGut to Your Contacts Top of page Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 11-06-2017, 09:33 PM
Fly Like a Duck's Avatar
Fly Like a Duck Fly Like a Duck is offline
Starter
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,371
Likes: 212
Liked 416 Times in 300 Posts
Fly Like a Duck is on a distinguished road
Default
Originally Posted by RicFlair View Post
Agreed with Bulldogs.... so many people are double dipping and making all kinds of money when you have recent college grads that canít find a job because people who are already drawing a pension can come back and make boat loads of money and the majority of them arenít effective in their jobs. Education has changed ALOT even since Iíve been out of college, can you imagine what they were taught 30+ years ago?
College grads arenít going into education. Talk to some people in your school district that do the hiring. It will blow your mind.

I know of a district that had/has a PE opening after the first 9 weeks and they were hoping to find somebody to fill it; even called to one of our major universities in the state to get an idea on the number of those who had recently graduated in the Spring and/or Summer or 2017 with PE/Health credentials and teaching rights......know how many that was? ONE.

Young people ARE not going into education; thatís the issue. With this new system itís going to be even less.

The number of young people not going into Education is one of the reasons why they are hiring some of these 100 day contracted ďretiredĒ teachers. From my experiences they are MAGNIFICENT hires; they are giving those who have tons of experience something to do 2-3 Days a week.

I donít know about you, but if I just had to work/go all out 2-3 Days a week for 9 months a year; Iíd be through the roof with energy and effectiveness.

These 100 day people are golden in my book. School systems are going to miss them; especially at the current rate (or lack thereof) of those not going into Education.
Send a private message to Fly Like a Duck Add Fly Like a Duck to Your Contacts Top of page Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 11-06-2017, 09:33 PM
Cardfan1 Cardfan1 is online now
2nd String
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 819
Likes: 129
Liked 291 Times in 205 Posts
Cardfan1 is on a distinguished road
Default
Originally Posted by nky View Post
You don't need to be a teacher to be a head coach. The retirement issues will not effect coaching.
If coaches are limited to 100 hours a month they will be affected.

Originally Posted by RunItUpTheGut View Post
There are several teaching jobs in the surrounding area that start that low.
One of my good friends was just offered a kindergarten position. She has he masters.
Starting pay? 23k

The biggest problem with teaching? There's to many of them, at least in this area. Several people I know with teaching degrees are sitting waiting for somebody to die or retire before they can get a job.
Jobs are out there. Maybe just not in the district your friends want. That will start to trickle down soon though.
Send a private message to Cardfan1 Add Cardfan1 to Your Contacts Top of page Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 11-06-2017, 09:35 PM
Brother Xavier's Avatar
Brother Xavier Brother Xavier is offline
Statistician
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 207
Likes: 20
Liked 18 Times in 15 Posts
Brother Xavier is on a distinguished road
Default
Originally Posted by nky View Post
You don't need to be a teacher to be a head coach. The retirement issues will not effect coaching.
You haven't been following the news about the proposal. Retired teachers will not be able to double dip with a 100 day job or being a substitute with the new proposal set up (in order to be paid by a school a coach has to be employed in some manner). Also to get full benefits under the old retirement format a teacher will need to retire before 2023. Maybe sooner not sure about the date...so it will push put a lot of quality seasoned coaches...leaving an already thin coaching market, thinner.
Send a private message to Brother Xavier Add Brother Xavier to Your Contacts Top of page Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 11-06-2017, 09:36 PM
99PIRATEFAN's Avatar
99PIRATEFAN 99PIRATEFAN is offline
Head Coach
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Belfry Ky
Posts: 2,154
Likes: 371
Liked 422 Times in 340 Posts
99PIRATEFAN is on a distinguished road
Default
Originally Posted by RunItUpTheGut View Post
Why would anyone want to teach in KY now?
It's a low paying job, usually starting early 20k. Then you have to go back and finish ytour masters within 4 or 5 years. That's absurd. I honestly don't know why anyone would want to be a teacher in this state.

As for trhe retirement system, it's broke. No other way around it then to fix it. You shouldnt be allowed to retire in 20 years and draw over a million dollars and pass that on. Socialism doesn't work. It never works. And now this generation of treachers will pay for it.

I agree 100 percent
Send a private message to 99PIRATEFAN Add 99PIRATEFAN to Your Contacts Top of page Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 11-06-2017, 09:40 PM
99PIRATEFAN's Avatar
99PIRATEFAN 99PIRATEFAN is offline
Head Coach
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Belfry Ky
Posts: 2,154
Likes: 371
Liked 422 Times in 340 Posts
99PIRATEFAN is on a distinguished road
Default
Originally Posted by Hound05 View Post
I never liked the teaching/coaching rule anyways. It sets up failure in the classroom in most cases, especially at ďsportsĒ schools. Youíre basically giving a good coach a job to teach and in some cases theyíre just filling in a seat and taking up someone elseís job. Iíve seen it. Now Iíve seen great coaches that do a great job teaching, and thatís fine, let them do it. But Iíd say there is better teachers out there than Haywood, haddix, Hilton, etc.... but there isnít many better coaches. Let the coaches coach, and teachers teach, if they WANT to do both, great, the school will save a little money. But donít require it.

Coach Haywood is the Guidance Counselor he has been the whole time heís been at Belfry but he works with all kids in the school he does a very good job at what he does
Likes: (1)
Hound05 (11-06-2017)
Send a private message to 99PIRATEFAN Add 99PIRATEFAN to Your Contacts Top of page Reply With Quote
Reply

  BGR-Kentucky High School Sports - BlueGrassRivals » Kentucky High School and Middle School Sports » Football

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -9. The time now is 01:12 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.