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IF the allegation made against Al Franken, and the corresponding photo, prove valid, he has asked his last question of AG Sessions.

Funny how the one article on Harvey Weinstein may well prove the death knell to the ol’ “boys will be boys” club.
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I agree. He should step down (IF) allegations are true, just like Judge Moore.
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Not that I blame her for being mad, and I'd bet her husband just loves the guy, LOL. But there's just not enough here for the door to hit Franken on his way out.

Daylight can clearly be seen between his left hand and her chest, and looks to be the case for his right hand too in the photo I saw. He'll never admit to the kiss and it would be impossible for her to prove.
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Not that I blame her for being mad, and I'd bet her husband just loves the guy, LOL. But there's just not enough here for the door to hit Franken on his way out.

Daylight can clearly be seen between his left hand and her chest, and looks to be the case for his right hand too in the photo I saw. He'll never admit to the kiss and it would be impossible for her to prove.
Not sure willing suspension of disbelief will carry the day in Minneapolis.

On a lighter note, somebody contact Granny Bear and Stardust and tell ‘em we’re all playing nice 👍🏻. (Meant as joke)
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I believe Tweeden and any other women who come forward and say Franken has harassed them over the last 50 years. Let's hear it ladies!
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There isn't enough evidence to judge here for me.

Franken is a comedian, and it appears that the photograph is just that....a joke.

BUT, I don't know. I gotta wonder how many jumpers are coming to the band wagon, to be honest. So many accusations dilute the true victims.
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There isn't enough evidence to judge here for me.

Franken is a comedian, and it appears that the photograph is just that....a joke.

BUT, I don't know. I gotta wonder how many jumpers are coming to the band wagon, to be honest. So many accusations dilute the true victims.
I'm a pretty funny guy, can I grab women's breasts?
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I'm a pretty funny guy, can I grab women's breasts?
No: but if you acquire wealth and/or power, aim lower.
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No: but if you acquire wealth and/or power, aim lower.
This thread is about Franken, please leave Bill Clinton out of it.
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I'm a pretty funny guy, can I grab women's breasts?
You wish!!!


I don't think he was grabbing her, just acting like it.
But I could be wrong.
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This thread is about Franken, please leave Bill Clinton out of it.
True enough, true enough

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Though Clinton was not born with wealth; he acquired it the old fashioned political way: book deals, monied connections, and a Foundation.
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You wish!!!


I don't think he was grabbing her, just acting like it.
But I could be wrong.
But, if he wrote a little skit, and, oh by the way, wrote in a bit where he kisses her, then wants to rehearse, then in rehearsal goes French, that’s disgusting on his part, and weird.
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Originally Posted by The Urban Sombrero View Post
True enough, true enough

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Though Clinton was not born with wealth; he acquired it the old fashioned political way: book deals, monied connections, and a Foundation.
Of course you conveniently left out insider manipulation and corruption.
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Originally Posted by The Urban Sombrero View Post
True enough, true enough

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You wish!!!


I don't think he was grabbing her, just acting like it.
But I could be wrong.
I could be wrong here too, but I was thinking I saw where she was quoted as saying he did.
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Of course you conveniently left out insider manipulation and corruption.
I thought those were included in “monied connections.”
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My understanding all along is that he did grope her. A fake grope is something a 7th grader would do that I cannot even imagine a grown man doing lol... If it's fake it's just stupid and not newsworthy but I don't think that is the case here.
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From the stories I am reading today, I was wrong and JP was right. (How many times has THAT happened before???)

Some of these people not only need to be prosecuted for misconduct, but also for stupidity.
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I am glad that Franklin has called for an investigation from the ethics committee. I still think he should resign. I believe all men who treat women in such a way, forcing themselves on them, are beneath any office of the United States. Including Senators, Congressmen, and Presidents. We are better than this.
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Originally Posted by The Urban Sombrero View Post
True enough, true enough

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Though Clinton was not born with wealth; he acquired it the old fashioned political way: book deals, monied connections, and a Foundation.
Traditionally, non-profit foundations have been a means for the wealthy to spread their wealth through charitable acts - not money laundering operations used to accumulate wealth.
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Franken better be careful with behavior like this. If the past election has shown us anything he might fool around and get elected President.
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Franken better be careful with behavior like this. If the past election has shown us anything he might fool around and get elected President.
For the 2nd time, all you people wanting to discuss Bill Clinton please start a separate thread! This is the Franken thread!
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Note: Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Harvey Weinstein, Roy Moore, et al.: symptomatic of issues beyond political differences, beyond religious differences: a game often goes on between the sexes, a loaded game because most all cultures in the history of the world have been patriarchal and to varying degrees misogynistic. We all know the stereotypes: a man and his ‘nads as juxtaposed to a woman and her wiles. Circa 2017, both men and women better realize, pinultimately realize, to quote B. Dylan, “the times they are a changin’.”
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Note: Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Harvey Weinstein, Roy Moore, et al.: symptomatic of issues beyond political differences, beyond religious differences: a game often goes on between the sexes, a loaded game because most all cultures in the history of the world have been patriarchal and to varying degrees misogynistic. We all know the stereotypes: a man and his ‘nads as juxtaposed to a woman and her wiles. Circa 2017, both men and women better realize, pinultimately realize, to quote B. Dylan, “the times they are a changin’.”


Now we've been through this before, there is no such word as pin-ultimately

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"last but one in a series of things; second to the last:"


And further, we disagree about changing times. Take for case in point, the words of the wisest man who ever lived: Ecclesiastes 1:9 (KJV)
9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

There is no new thing under the sun, but societies nonetheless rise and fall because of moral virtue or decay, such is the case of this once fair land. The fact that there is such a thing on Capital Hill known as the 'creep list' speaks volumes about the character of America and thus those whom we send to government to legislate. The female staff and workers of DC have become wary of close contact with this nation's leaders. Thus they actively avoid putting themselves into harm's way by being alone with members on the creep list. Elevators, and other confined spaces are therefore to be shunned.

Just as in the case of our society's open embrace of the homosexual lifestyle, (which is beyond doubt the leading indicator) such displays of sexual depravity are signpost sins. And that particular sign post went in America's rearview as of Nov of 2010. In turning our backs on God, we have forfeited the moral authority we once had to self govern. So what we're seeing out of those in government is a reflection of society in general. I knew we were in trouble when Bill Clinton (sorry Jet) successfully thumbed his nose at the people of the entire nation. In that day many of the same familiar faces presided over his impeachment hearings and the vote went largely down party lines. But that is the true Clinton legacy, acceptance of sexually depraved behavior which by all accounts is presently rampant.

It's not hard to understand why the since Jan 20, 2017, the Dems of the Congress have done nothing, not one thing, other than prosecute a scorched earth political campaign. The aim of which is to oust a legitimately elected President. Character and personal integrity are what is a changin.
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“Scorched earth”

As in claiming a legitimately elected President was not a citizen, was a jihadist sympathizer, was possibly the antichrist? Friendo, get real.

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Women, post Weinstein, are going to be less apt to silently endure the creeps. That is change. Being disagreeable in fine peacock style? Hasn’t changed.
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“Scorched earth”

As in claiming a legitimately elected President was not a citizen, was a jihadist sympathizer, was possibly the antichrist? Friendo, get real.

Note: the cataloguing of words? A constant ill wind from your territory be like “Sombrero is obsessed with me.” Not true. Boommerrang.




Did he send 500 million to Hamas? Did he send 490 billion (in cash) to Iran?
Did he try to transfer another 221 million dollars to Palestine as he was circling DC for the last time, or not? Believe whatever you want, you will anyway.
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Did he send 500 million to Hamas? Did he send 490 billion (in cash) to Iran?
Did he try to transfer another 221 million dollars to Palestine as he was circling DC for the last time, or not? Believe whatever you want, you will anyway.
As in spewing straw everywhere. Your assertion wasn’t about decisions or policies: your claim was a “scorched earth” approach applied to Donald Trump, as if the G.O.P. is above such things. Scorched earth tactics and sexual scandals belong to both DNC and RNC functionaries.
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“Scorched earth”

As in claiming a legitimately elected President was not a citizen, was a jihadist sympathize , was possibly the antichrist? Friendo, get real.

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Did he send 500 million to Hamas? Did he send 490 billion (in cash) to Iran?
Did he try to transfer another 221 million dollars to Palestine as he was circling DC for the last time, or not? Believe whatever you want, you will anyway.


If you're saying I said those things you're lying again. Nobody said Oblah-blah-blah was the antichrist, he is a left wing-nut ideologue that made tremendous strides toward relegating the US to also-ran status though. It was his own family (most notably his grandmother) who said he was Kenyan born. Though I will have to say he did singlehandedly bring the age of open homosexuality into it's own. Sneaking all that money around certainly looks like an argument for jihadi sympathizing to me.


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As in spewing straw everywhere. Your assertion wasn’t about decisions or policies: your claim was a “scorched earth” approach applied to Donald Trump, as if the G.O.P. is above such things. Scorched earth tactics and sexual scandals belong to both DNC and RNC functionaries.

You keep saying both sides do the same thing and yet you've repeatedly failed to come up with your list of examples supposedly perpetrated by Republicans to support that. Name them. And while you're at it, name a single Democrat who's been a yes vote for a single thing since Jan 20th. And you're darn right I said Dems are prosecuting a scorched earth political campaign against the President. Unlike you however, I can back up what I say.
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⬆️ I did, again and again. It’s one thing, Sir, if you desire to claim moral high ground for the RNC platform, or economic superiority (supply side), or regulatory or whatever. But, tactically, it’s about winning, gloves off, innuendo thrown, mud slung, earth scorched. We all know that.
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⬆️ I did, again and again. It’s one thing, Sir, if you desire to claim moral high ground for the RNC platform, or economic superiority (supply side), or regulatory or whatever. But, tactically, it’s about winning, gloves off, innuendo thrown, mud slung, earth scorched. We all know that.


No you've yet to name the first incidence and the challenge remains. Name them. And NOBODY said a word about any moral high ground. I did refer to cash payments to terror groups.
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