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Dunbar has added another former Wildcat to the coaching staff. What is everyone's opinion?
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Interesting to say the least.
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Interesting to say the least.
My concern is Dunbar may be valuing style over substance. Kemp has zero coaching experience. Every school in Lex has former UK players and some with former NFL players. It’s not a big deal in Lexington to have former UK players on staff. Is my concern valid or not? Time will tell. I’m just not overly impressed. I could be wrong.
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Coaching and playing require 2 drastically different skill sets.

I'm not saying he won't or can't be a good coach, but being an SEC RB doesn't make someone a good coach.
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Old 01-18-2018, 08:21 PM
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Coaching and playing require 2 drastically different skill sets.

I'm not saying he won't or can't be a good coach, but being an SEC RB doesn't make someone a good coach.
Agree completely. Dunbar relying on style not substance once again IMO.
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I've never got the assumption that good players would be good coaches. Just because you were bigger and faster than a lot of people when the lights came on doesn't mean you know anything about the game from a coaching perspective. In a lot of instances guys know even less because they didn't have to learn to gain an advantage due to their physical abilities. But man it looks good on paper to the average fan!
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Agree 100% : Coaching comes down to the ability to explain and teach details combined with the ability to motivate kids to perfect them . I wish all coaches the best because I want kids to be put in a position to succeed !!! Bigger , better faster helps on the field... motivation and details are what counts from the sideline . Good luck to Jo Jo and all coaches !!!
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Time will tell. I'm still not sold on Wes Johnson. Adding UK players to his staff doesn't sell him anymore. I think there are quality coaches out there who never played a down of college football.

Has Johnson tried contacting the coaches who were on staff last year? There were a couple of guys with good experience that probably could have helped.
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Plenty of guys that could do it on the field that also have done it on the sidelines, and plenty who werenít/arenít as good on the coaching side of things. You can find more than adequate examples for each case all over the place ...just depends on which side of the narrative youíre wanting to defend if it gets down to that.

I could name a slew of head coaches in this state who excelled on their respected division(s) of play in college who have (had) varied levels of success (under that large umbrella terms) coaching.
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If youíre trying to boost numbers. Thereís not a better way to do that than putting a sec rb most of those kids know and recognize as one of the assistant coaches. With that sad. I hope he can coach and realizes what he is getting into time commitment wise. I hope itís not a gimmic to get kids out to play and he really does want to coach.
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If youíre trying to boost numbers. Thereís not a better way to do that than putting a sec rb most of those kids know and recognize as one of the assistant coaches. With that sad. I hope he can coach and realizes what he is getting into time commitment wise. I hope itís not a gimmic to get kids out to play and he really does want to coach.
In a day and age where more people turn their head to the thought of coaching by either never doing it or getting out of it as soon as they can or just in general Iíd say this is a very solid hire.

Guessing heís not married and/or without kids. Once one or both of those start coming along is when you start seeing many guys get out of it (and understandably so in many cases; zero disrespect to them bc there comes a time when all hang up the whistle), so Iím definitely giving him the benefit of the doubt
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Ok let's face it, Dunbar HS Football is a dumpster fire. You can't tell me that there isn't enough talent walking the halls to field a good team. I just don't believe there has been the excitement for the sport. No reason they should be 0-10. NONE.

So if this hire can spark interest inside that school to get some kids out to join the team then I say it's worth it. I mean, what is there to lose?
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I agree, this is the third thread on Dunbar this month. For a team that went 0-10 they have generated enough buzz to have us talking. Maybe that will be the beginning to a turnaround.
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Keep in mind this is not the first time Dunbar has had former UK players on staff. They had a HC who was a starting LB at UK, former OL’s, and so on even a strength coach with UK credentials. They have had all that at the end of the day they need substance over style. Time will tell if they do. It is just funny to see Dunbar make such a big deal about it. Every staff in Lex got former Cats on it.
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Ok let's face it, Dunbar HS Football is a dumpster fire. You can't tell me that there isn't enough talent walking the halls to field a good team. I just don't believe there has been the excitement for the sport. No reason they should be 0-10. NONE.

So if this hire can spark interest inside that school to get some kids out to join the team then I say it's worth it. I mean, what is there to lose?
They had former cats before. The humorous part of it is the big deal Johnson makes about as if no other school in Lex has precious former UK players, they all do.
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If youíre trying to boost numbers. Thereís not a better way to do that than putting a sec rb most of those kids know and recognize as one of the assistant coaches. With that sad. I hope he can coach and realizes what he is getting into time commitment wise. I hope itís not a gimmic to get kids out to play and he really does want to coach.
True it is just funny how big of a deal Johnson makes about it when every staff in Lex got former UK players who were better than the ones he has. Johnson is the Brian Landis Jr. of Lexington. If he can produce Landis results Iíll be happy tho.
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Why are you so concerned about who Coach Johnson hires? You speak like someone who has a beef with Coach Johnson.
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Originally Posted by God of Thunder View Post
Why are you so concerned about who Coach Johnson hires? You speak like someone who has a beef with Coach Johnson.
Why does this type of post happen so often here?

Oh, you question this school or coach, then you must have an agenda or a connection, or blah blah blah.

Not to attack you or anything, but this is a high school sports forum, some people may have an agenda, but for the most part people are just calling it like they see it.
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Why does this type of post happen so often here?

Oh, you question this school or coach, then you must have an agenda or a connection, or blah blah blah.

Not to attack you or anything, but this is a high school sports forum, some people may have an agenda, but for the most part people are just calling it like they see it.
And the funny thing is, if you don't question someone publicly, then you'll get accused of being a homer, their best friend or a family member.


You either hate someone so much that you wish bad things upon them with every moment you are awake, or you were the best man in their wedding.
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Originally Posted by Explorer View Post
Why does this type of post happen so often here?

Oh, you question this school or coach, then you must have an agenda or a connection, or blah blah blah.

Not to attack you or anything, but this is a high school sports forum, some people may have an agenda, but for the most part people are just calling it like they see it.
Savage you are you make an excellent point!
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Why are you so concerned about who Coach Johnson hires? You speak like someone who has a beef with Coach Johnson.
People who send their kids to Dunbar and who pay to go to their games, usually want to know what is going on. Some of these parents have spent a lot of time out there trying to get things going in the right direction. They want to see if Wes Johnson was the right choice. You'd be singing a different tune if you were invested in the program.
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People who send their kids to Dunbar and who pay to go to their games, usually want to know what is going on. Some of these parents have spent a lot of time out there trying to get things going in the right direction. They want to see if Wes Johnson was the right choice. You'd be singing a different tune if you were invested in the program.
Mr. Draper you have to give Johnson a chance after all he is the all time winning coach at West Jessamine with 26 whopping wins 4 games over .500 26-22, oh I forgot he had one forfeit win so that makes it 27-22. There is great hope rising out of Man o war Blvd.
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Mr. Draper you have to give Johnson a chance after all he is the all time winning coach at West Jessamine with 26 whopping wins 4 games over .500 26-22, oh I forgot he had one forfeit win so that makes it 27-22. There is great hope rising out of Man o war Blvd.
Is West just stacked with championships before or after? Maybe I'm missing something, here.
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Is West just stacked with championships before or after? Maybe I'm missing something, here.
not that I know of why?
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not that I know of why?
I wasn't sure.
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I wasn't sure.
no it is just comical how big of a deal Johnson makes about it you should see his webpage. cheap laughs on my part that's all. no ill intent meant
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no it is just comical how big of a deal Johnson makes about it you should see his webpage. cheap laughs on my part that's all. no ill intent meant
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Every new hire has earned the right to try and build what he thinks is the foundation needed to make things happen. It's not easy to build a program from scratch. I applaud him for hiring Jo Jo. He's a recent former player at UK that the kids have heard of. I'm not at liberty to judge how he thinks the program should be built but if I was living in the school district I would be sure to get to know him and do everything I could to help. He has an unbelievably difficult job in front of him and deserves the respect and support of the PLD family.
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Every new hire has earned the right to try and build what he thinks is the foundation needed to make things happen. It's not easy to build a program from scratch. I applaud him for hiring Jo Jo. He's a recent former player at UK that the kids have heard of. I'm not at liberty to judge how he thinks the program should be built but if I was living in the school district I would be sure to get to know him and do everything I could to help. He has an unbelievably difficult job in front of him and deserves the respect and support of the PLD family.
You don't brag about a 26-22 record and the hiring of former UK players who were average at best and have zero coaching experience. The city school staffs are filled with them. just go about your business and get more kids in the wieghtroom. I m gonna throw up if I see him brag one more time about hiring a former UK player with no coaching experience.
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