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Which region is better in baseball? The 14th, 15th, or 16th?
#31
Top to bottom I would have to lean towards the 15th, but I'm a homer any how.
#32
Looks like East Carter beat Johnson Central, and Russell beat Lawrence County, so far this season. Should be a good matchup in between Paintsville and Boyd County.
#33
the 14th region is stronger than usual but I will still rank them behind the 15th and 16th.
#34
I think the 16th has the best overall team but top to bottom I think 15th is the best.
#35
15th
#36
15th all the way!
#37
15th By far
#38
Overall, this year, I think the 15th has best all around region. Boyd County is the best of all the teams in either region, but the 15th is the most competitive.
#39
15th
#40
14th is KILLING the 15th early on this year!
#41
15th!
#42
15th
#43
Fairview from the 16th has beaten Shelby Valley, Prestonsburg, and Pike Central to go along with airball's last post of East Carter beating JC, and Russell beating Lawrence County...The 16th is stronger overall guys...
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#44
So far this season, the 15th is getting pounded by the 14th and 16th Regions! I think they are all very equal in talent, but right now the 15th is a little behind at this point in the season.
#45
SC over Morgan today, 10-6. solid win for the 15th.
#46
corndog23 Wrote:SC over Morgan today, 10-6. solid win for the 15th.
Solid???

Not hardly. Morgan is usually one of the cellar dwellers in the 16th.

Overall the 16th is much better than the 15th. Some of you all are only dreaming.
#47
15th all the way
#48
Most people are so biased they can't say otherwise, but the 14th and 16th both may be better than the 15th this season at the top, and I think the 16th is better overall...
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#49
Maybe i am a little biased, but daggone it yall aint gonna change what i think.
#50
Looks like the 16th Region is also crushing the 15th Region this year. Besides the Sheldon Clark win over Morgan County, has any of the 15th region teams beat a 16th?
#51
airball3 Wrote:Looks like the 16th Region is also crushing the 15th Region this year. Besides the Sheldon Clark win over Morgan County, has any of the 15th region teams beat a 16th?

Raceland (16th) has beaten Lawrence and Paintsville on their home fields.:argue:
#52
Sheldon Clark beat Fairview...
#53
15th, Pikeville, JC, Paintsville,
#54
NYY10 Wrote:15th, Pikeville, JC, Paintsville,

16th, Boyd County, Raceland, East Carter, Fairview, Russell
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#55
NYY10 Wrote:15th, Pikeville, JC, Paintsville,

SC, AC....
#56
corndog23 Wrote:SC, AC....

Thats right,didnt mean to leave them out
#57
I did a little research. The results are only as good as the records indicated on KHSAA.

Here are some key stats:

Win Loss Record
14th: 117-118 (46 losses by weakest 5 teams)
15th: 122-120 (32 losses by weakest 3 teams)
16th: 121-122 (48 losses by weakest 4 teams)

Regional Breakdown
14th v. 15th: 9-10
14th v. 16th: 6-5

15th v. 14th: 10-9
15th v. 16th: 11-13

16th v. 14th: 5-6
16th v. 15th: 13-11

Looks pretty even there. The overall win loss records are skewed with poor teams at the bottoms of each region. Here are the skewing teams:

14th Region:
Jenkins 0-10
Buckhorn 3-10
Jackson City 3-7
Breathitt Co. 3-7
Cordia 4-12

15th Region:
South Floyd 1-8
Shelby Valley 4-13
Prestonsburg 4-11

16th Region:
Rose Hill 1-11
Menifee Co. 1-13
Elliott Co. 2-10
Lewis Co. 1-14

The records against each region are good indicators, but we need to evaluate how many victories were against the poor teams listed above.

14th Region
44-11

15th Region
36-7

16th Region
40-8

Also, here is a breakdown of the top three teams (by victories) in each region versus the other regions:

14th Region
Leslie Co. 17-1 (Overall) 2-1 (vs. 15th ) 0-0 (vs. 16th ) 3-0 (vs. weak)
Letcher Central 12-7 (Overall) 5-1 (vs. 15th ) 0-1 (vs. 16th ) 5-0 (vs. weak)
Perry Central 11-7 (Overall) 1-0 (vs. 15th ) 0-0 (vs. 16th ) 2-0 (vs. weak)

15th Region
Pikeville 17-4 (Overall) 2-1 (vs. 15th ) 1-0 (vs. 16th ) 2-0 (vs. weak)
Sheldon Clark 13-6 (Overall) 0-1 (vs. 15th ) 3-2 (vs. 16th ) 3-0 (vs. weak)
Allen Central 11-4 (Overall) 2-0 (vs. 15th ) 0-0 (vs. 16th ) 4-0 (vs. weak)

16th Region
East Carter 17-2 (Overall) 1-0 (vs. 15th )1-1 (vs. 16th ) 6-0 (vs. weak)
Russell 16-9 (Overall) 0-0 (vs. 15th )1-0 (vs. 16th ) 3-0 (vs. weak)
Fairview 15-5 (Overall) 0-0 (vs. 15th )6-2 (vs. 16th ) 7-0 (vs. weak)

I'm not going to make any predictions on which region is stronger. You all look at the numbers and go from there. I'm not sure the numbers tell.
#58
That's amazing research, so nice job on that..It looks pretty even to me on there, but for some reason I still think the 16th is stronger....
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#59
I found a typo. The quote below is corrected:

Sponge Bob Wrote:I did a little research. The results are only as good as the records indicated on KHSAA.

Here are some key stats:

Win Loss Record
14th: 117-118 (46 losses by weakest 5 teams)
15th: 122-120 (32 losses by weakest 3 teams)
16th: 121-122 (48 losses by weakest 4 teams)
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Regional Breakdown
14th v. 15th: 10-11
14th v. 16th: 6-5

15th v. 14th: 11-10
15th v. 16th: 11-13

16th v. 14th: 5-6
16th v. 15th: 13-11

Looks pretty even there. The overall win loss records are skewed with poor teams at the bottoms of each region. Here are the skewing teams:

14th Region:
Jenkins 0-10
Buckhorn 3-10
Jackson City 3-7
Breathitt Co. 3-7
Cordia 4-12

15th Region:
South Floyd 1-8
Shelby Valley 4-13
Prestonsburg 4-11

16th Region:
Rose Hill 1-11
Menifee Co. 1-13
Elliott Co. 2-10
Lewis Co. 1-14

The records against each region are good indicators, but we need to evaluate how many victories were against the poor teams listed above.

14th Region
44-11

15th Region
36-7

16th Region
40-8

Also, here is a breakdown of the top three teams (by victories) in each region versus the other regions:

14th Region
Leslie Co. 17-1 (Overall) 2-1 (vs. 15th ) 0-0 (vs. 16th ) 3-0 (vs. weak)
Letcher Central 12-7 (Overall) 5-1 (vs. 15th ) 0-1 (vs. 16th ) 5-0 (vs. weak)
Perry Central 11-7 (Overall) 1-0 (vs. 15th ) 0-0 (vs. 16th ) 2-0 (vs. weak)

15th Region
Pikeville 17-4 (Overall) 2-1 (vs. 14th ) 1-0 (vs. 16th ) 2-0 (vs. weak)
Sheldon Clark 13-6 (Overall) 0-1 (vs. 14th ) 3-2 (vs. 16th ) 3-0 (vs. weak)
Allen Central 11-4 (Overall) 2-0 (vs. 14th ) 0-0 (vs. 16th ) 4-0 (vs. weak)

16th Region
East Carter 17-2 (Overall) 1-0 (vs. 14th ) 1-1 (vs. 15th ) 6-0 (vs. weak)
Russell 16-9 (Overall) 0-0 (vs. 14th ) 1-0 (vs. 15th ) 3-0 (vs. weak)
Fairview 15-5 (Overall) 0-0 (vs. 14th ) 6-3 (vs. 15th ) 7-0 (vs. weak)

I'm not going to make any predictions on which region is stronger. You all look at the numbers and go from there. I'm not sure the numbers tell.

Also, I think it would help to see the actual victories in the region v. region breakdown:

14th v. 15th (14th Region in italics)
Leslie Co. (17-1) def. Paintsville (10-7) 12-5
Leslie Co. def. Shelby Valley (4-13) 16-5
Allen Central (11-4) def. Leslie Co. (17-1) 5-3
Pike Co. Central (7-9) def. Letcher Co. Central (12-7) 8-6
Letcher Co. Central (12-7) def. Johnson Central (8-10) 4-3
Letcher Co. Central (12-7) def. Shelby Valley (4-13) 13-0
Letcher Co. Central (12-7) def. Pike Co. Central (7-9) 6-1
Letcher Co. Central (12-7) def. East Ridge (8-12) 8-1
Letcher Co. Central (12-7) def. Belfry (10-7) 20-5
Perry Co. Central (11-7) def. Pikeville (17-4) 5-3
Pikeville (17-4) def. Hazard (8-14) 4-1
Pikeville (17-4) def. Hazard (8-14) 6-4
Hazard (8-14) def. Sheldon Clark (13-6) 6-1
Allen Central (11-4) def. Wolfe Co. (6-6) 12-2
East Ridge (8-12) def. Cordia (4-12) 6-2
East Ridge (8-12) def. Cordia (4-12) 14-4
Betsy Layne (5-10) def. Cordia (4-12) 15-4
Phelps (8-4) def. Cordia (4-12) 15-5
Cordia (4-12) def. South Floyd (1-8) 10-4
Magoffin Co. (5-5) def. Cordia (4-12) 5-2
South Floyd (1-8) def. Jenkins (0-10) 13-3

14th v. 16th (14th in italics)
Boyd Co (8-4) def. Letcher Co. Central (12-7) 13-0
Powell Co. (10-6) def. Fleming Co. (8-8) 8-0
East Carter (17-2) def. Powell Co. (10-6) 10-2
Powell Co. (10-6) def. Menifee Co. (1-13) 16-0
Powell Co. (10-6) def. Bath Co. (10-3) 13-7
Greenup Co. (6-8) def. Hazard (8-14) 5-4
Wolfe Co. (6-6) def. Elliott Co. (2-10) 12-6
Morgan Co. (4-5) def. Wolfe Co. (6-6) 11-2
Jackson City (3-7) def. Menifee Co. (1-13) 7-5
Jackson City (3-7) def. Menifee Co. (1-13) 15-12
Elliott Co. (2-10) def. Jackson City (3-7) 20-10

16th v. 15th (16th in italics)
Magoffin Co. (5-5) def. Menifee Co. (1-13) 13-5
East Carter (17-2) def. Johnson Central (8-10) 6-4
Johnson Central (8-10) def. East Carter (17-2) 4-1
Sheldon Clark (13-6) def. Morgan Co. (4-5) 10-6
Prestonsburg (4-11) def. Morgan Co. (4-5) 13-12
Magoffin Co. (5-5) def. West Carter (4-9) 3-1
Greenup Co. (6-8) def. Paintsville (10-7) 15-9
Sheldon Clark (13-6) def. Lewis Co. (1-13) 10-6
Raceland (10-7) def. Lawrence Co. (11-8) 10-7
Raceland (10-7) def. Paintsville (10-7) 7-0
Russell (16-9) def. Lawrence Co. (11-8) 8-7
Lawrence Co. (11-8) def. Ashland (9-7) 10-0
Fairview (15-5) def. Shelby Valley (4-13) 7-4
Fairview (15-5) def. Pike Co. Central (7-9) 6-3
Fairview (15-5) def. Prestonsburg (4-11) 12-3
Fairview (15-5) def. Johnson Central (8-10) 5-0
Sheldon Clark (13-6) def. Fairview (15-5) 14-3
Pikeville (17-4) def. Fairview (15-5) 4-2
Lawrence Co. (11-8) def. Fairview (15-5) 2-0
Fairview (15-5) def. Sheldon Clark (13-6) 3-1
Fairview (15-5) def. Pike Co. Central (7-9) 19-8
Magoffin Co. (5-5) def. Rose Hill (1-11) 15-1
Boyd Co. (8-4) def. Johnson Central (8-10) 10-0
Rowan Co. (9-7) def. Sheldon Clark (13-6) 9-3
#60
Man that's some awesome research..Thanks
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