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Is the Economy improving?
Truth Wrote:The only way that is possible is if you are a printer specializing in printing food stamps and welfare checks.



Financial experts, those who actually risk investing money in the stock market, always make reference to the fact that the market is being propped up by the fed. Some call it printing money, some call it quantitative easing. But, anyway you slice it the government is engaged in manipulating currency. At any rate, we are experiencing an undeniable surge in the market, as records are being set daily.

Those same experts however, are very concerned about the correction they feel certain is coming. Most believe that our 20 trillion national debt has a reasonable chance of dealing a devastating blow to our financial system and they are worried. They are worried that the two models, free enterprise and the European style Keynesian system, cannot work together in the same country in the way the US is presently trying to pull off. One system is based on the tenets of socialism, which takes from the productive side of society and gives to the non productive side. The other rewards those who work, thusly innovation and progress have the perfect environment to flourish.

Despite Margaret Thatcher's here quoted observation, "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money", we press on. Greece is an excellent example of what we have to look forward to. They've been bailed out at least 3 times by the other member nations of the Eurozone, and having gotten their debt ratio down to 136% of their GDP in the last bail out, are once again looking at a ratio of 174%.

The point? Human nature is what it is. The Greeks are not going to change because their culture has raised legions of those who expect to be taken care of by the government. We're doing exactly the same thing and it will come back to bite us, hard. And, the problem is almost systemic across the globe. Japan has a debt to GDP ratio of over 200%. I mentioned that Greece has gotten help from her neighbors. Does anybody on here really believe the US can expect something like that once our steady progression to an upside down debt to GDP ratio has our economy in it's grip?

The United States used to be the country that loaned money to other nations, we have been knocked off that lofty perch as China now holds that distinction. Now the US has to come begging to China, who manages to save 51% of it's GDP. I've seen my share of heavy-weight boxing championships. And, I've seen several champs get knocked off. Their reaction is always the same. Even though they just lost they refuse to believe it, and vow to reclaim their title in a rematch. And, it almost never happens. Many economists are doing their best to get America to wake up while there is still time and opportunity to right her financial ship. And predictably, liberals (Keynesians) are blowing their advice off as passé 20th century thinking. You see, we have not run out of other people's money yet.

If and when we do, the comforts of today will disappear over night, it won't matter how much one has in the banks of this land, or the stock market. They will crash for the guy who has millions just as they will the guy with hundreds. At that time the so-called have nots, people who have been taken care of their entire lives, will very likely take to the streets in mobs and packs. Most Americans are so used to going to a drive-thru, they have no concept of actual cooking. Much less gardening and scraping to feed themselves and their families. In that light, the apocalypse is not that far fetched a concept.
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Is the Economy improving? - by Wildcatk23 - 02-03-2012, 01:52 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Stardust - 02-03-2012, 01:56 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by RunItUpTheGut - 02-03-2012, 03:42 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by judgementday - 02-03-2012, 04:14 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by LWC - 02-03-2012, 07:11 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Hoot Gibson - 02-03-2012, 08:30 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Hoot Gibson - 02-03-2012, 09:01 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Old School - 02-03-2012, 09:21 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Stardust - 02-03-2012, 09:23 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Hoot Gibson - 02-03-2012, 10:05 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by LWC - 02-03-2012, 11:07 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Stardust - 02-03-2012, 11:30 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Wildcatk23 - 02-03-2012, 11:59 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Bob Seger - 02-04-2012, 12:02 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by Wildcatk23 - 02-04-2012, 12:08 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by Hoot Gibson - 02-04-2012, 12:15 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by Wildcatk23 - 02-04-2012, 12:29 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by Bob Seger - 02-04-2012, 12:33 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by Bob Seger - 02-04-2012, 12:37 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by Wildcatk23 - 02-04-2012, 12:37 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by Wildcatk23 - 02-04-2012, 12:38 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by Hoot Gibson - 02-04-2012, 12:39 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by Wildcatk23 - 02-04-2012, 12:44 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by Bob Seger - 02-04-2012, 12:50 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by Bob Seger - 02-04-2012, 12:54 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by vundy33 - 02-04-2012, 02:31 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by RunItUpTheGut - 02-04-2012, 05:59 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealVille - 02-04-2012, 07:20 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by Hoot Gibson - 02-04-2012, 07:35 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by vector - 02-04-2012, 08:25 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by vector - 02-04-2012, 08:35 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by SKINNYPIG - 02-04-2012, 01:31 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealVille - 02-04-2012, 03:18 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealVille - 02-04-2012, 03:24 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealVille - 02-04-2012, 03:43 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Hoot Gibson - 02-04-2012, 04:08 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealVille - 02-04-2012, 04:41 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Wildcatk23 - 02-04-2012, 04:43 PM
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Is the Economy improving? - by Hoot Gibson - 02-04-2012, 06:38 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by LWC - 02-04-2012, 07:07 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Bob Seger - 02-04-2012, 10:19 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Bob Seger - 02-04-2012, 10:42 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Bob Seger - 02-04-2012, 11:00 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Old School - 02-04-2012, 11:05 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by RunItUpTheGut - 02-05-2012, 02:15 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealVille - 02-05-2012, 01:31 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Truth - 02-05-2012, 02:30 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Bob Seger - 02-05-2012, 03:19 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealVille - 02-05-2012, 05:23 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealVille - 02-07-2012, 08:03 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealThing - 02-11-2012, 10:27 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealVille - 02-12-2012, 05:11 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Old School - 02-12-2012, 05:53 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealVille - 02-12-2012, 07:55 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by SKINNYPIG - 02-12-2012, 08:14 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealVille - 02-12-2012, 08:26 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Old School - 02-12-2012, 08:31 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealVille - 02-12-2012, 08:51 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Old School - 02-12-2012, 08:59 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealVille - 02-12-2012, 09:02 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Hoot Gibson - 02-12-2012, 09:19 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Old School - 02-12-2012, 09:23 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by SKINNYPIG - 02-12-2012, 09:25 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Hoot Gibson - 02-12-2012, 09:29 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealVille - 02-12-2012, 10:47 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealThing - 02-13-2012, 05:53 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Wildcatk23 - 02-14-2012, 06:05 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Hoot Gibson - 02-14-2012, 06:38 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Wildcatk23 - 02-14-2012, 07:16 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Hoot Gibson - 02-14-2012, 07:23 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Wildcatk23 - 02-14-2012, 07:28 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealVille - 02-14-2012, 07:53 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Hoot Gibson - 02-14-2012, 07:57 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Wildcatk23 - 02-14-2012, 08:36 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealVille - 02-14-2012, 08:45 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Hoot Gibson - 02-14-2012, 08:49 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Hoot Gibson - 02-14-2012, 08:53 PM
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Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealVille - 02-14-2012, 09:40 PM
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Is the Economy improving? - by RunItUpTheGut - 12-12-2014, 01:56 AM
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Is the Economy improving? - by WideRight05 - 12-26-2014, 07:40 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealThing - 12-26-2014, 09:02 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by vector - 12-26-2014, 10:04 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealVille - 12-26-2014, 10:27 PM
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Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealThing - 12-27-2014, 12:30 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealVille - 12-27-2014, 12:45 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by Harry Rex Vonner - 12-27-2014, 03:20 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealThing - 12-27-2014, 03:24 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealVille - 12-27-2014, 03:48 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealThing - 12-27-2014, 04:06 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealVille - 12-27-2014, 04:11 AM
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Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealVille - 12-27-2014, 11:28 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealThing - 12-28-2014, 12:04 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealVille - 12-28-2014, 12:44 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Harry Rex Vonner - 12-28-2014, 05:39 PM
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Is the Economy improving? - by SKINNYPIG - 12-28-2014, 09:43 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealVille - 12-29-2014, 12:49 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by Real Badman - 12-29-2014, 01:04 AM
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Is the Economy improving? - by Harry Rex Vonner - 01-01-2015, 06:13 PM
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Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealThing - 01-02-2015, 12:43 AM
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Is the Economy improving? - by Real Badman - 01-03-2015, 07:53 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by BaileyS - 01-03-2015, 11:00 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealThing - 01-03-2015, 06:24 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealThing - 01-07-2015, 04:04 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by tvtimeout - 01-08-2015, 06:10 PM
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Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealThing - 01-08-2015, 10:21 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by RunItUpTheGut - 01-11-2015, 01:13 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealVille - 01-12-2015, 11:56 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealThing - 01-12-2015, 11:21 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by tvtimeout - 01-22-2015, 10:52 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by Hoot Gibson - 01-24-2015, 04:51 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by RunItUpTheGut - 01-25-2015, 07:09 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by RunItUpTheGut - 01-25-2015, 07:10 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealThing - 01-25-2015, 09:52 PM
Is the Economy improving? - by TheRealThing - 01-26-2015, 01:04 AM
Is the Economy improving? - by tvtimeout - 02-12-2015, 06:03 PM
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