[Beetle01]

Hey, you're preaching to the choir. How could the Doctor Patient Medical Association compare with Beetle01 and the out reach center staffers? On the other hand, you did say you normally vote republican, while contrary to what might seem to be normal political alignments, you break formation and bash an alleged association of the DPMA with the Tea Party, as if that were a bad thing. You spend most of your time on here posting typically liberal views while claiming to be a libertarian who votes republican.


So, when you have time, fit your support for a government run, mandated national health care program, complete with penalties and other repercussions, for what most folks in the land feel is nothing short of maleasance by the highest office in the land, into the following political platform;

PREAMBLE

As Libertarians, we seek a world of liberty; a world in which all individuals are sovereign over their own lives and no one is forced to sacrifice his or her values for the benefit of others.

We believe that respect for individual rights is the essential precondition for a free and prosperous world, that force and fraud must be banished from human relationships, and that only through freedom can peace and prosperity be realized.

Consequently, we defend each person's right to engage in any activity that is peaceful and honest, and welcome the diversity that freedom brings. The world we seek to build is one where individuals are free to follow their own dreams in their own ways, without interference from government or any authoritarian power.

I don't work at an outreach... so don't know where that comes from. I didn't say the DPMA association with the Tea Party was a bad thing, I was addressing the fact that they call themselves non-partisan, when in fact they are not. The DPMA represents the corporations that back them. They can preach all they want about people and their choices, their association with ALEC takes away from all of that.

I don't associate myself with any party or way of thinking. I look at each political topic individually and based on my own judgment form my own opinion. I don't like something just because Republicans support it, nor do I dislike something just because Democrats support it. I'm a registered Republican. Always have been since I was 18.

I don't spend most of my time on here posting liberal views. I am very conservative on many subjects, most in fact. Some things though I side with what you all call the Liberal view. However, this bill is not very liberal. It is not govt. ran healthcare. It is regulation by the govt on a market, like they regulate every other economic market. Govt ran healthcare would be like all hospitals becoming the VA.

Insurance itself is a form of socialism. Pooling all resources to help cover those who get sick.

The lines for the doctors are not going to get longer. It is not going to cost you more. There are things in there that drastically cut costs for HC providers and insurance companies, and things that increase costs. The decrease will come from the fact that they will now get paid for every patient they see. Another good example is if you need buy a piece of medical equipment for the house. Most CPAPs Ive seen priced for patients have been around 800 out of pocket cost, however, for insurance it's priced at 1700.

I wish this bill would have addressed the fact that there are companies out there that will buy up all of a type of medicine to create a shortage, then sell it to people at 100 times the original price. This happens a lot with chemo meds. Sorry, but the fact people are profiting so much by denying people life saving care or making them go broke is wrong. As a Christian and living in a Christian nation I see it as our duty to provide the best possible care for people. The fact that people are profiting by trillions of dollars of health care is just sad. Sure, Im not saying it should be free. Hospitals should be able to profit, MD's should make great money for what they do, as well as other staff who play pivotal roles in your healthcare. There just has to be a limit to it somewhere. A person should not lose everything they own and have worked hard for because they get sick. A person should not be denied treatment by their Insurance company because they get sick. This happens, I have seen it happen.