[Beetle01]

I know exactly what the facts are Mr. (thinks he) Know(s) Everything about Everything.......NOT

FDR and his gang's attitude was no different that what your spouting off about right now. IMO they are just as much to blame for WWII escalating to the point it did as those who committed the autrocities and initiated the aggressions. They have just as much blood on their hands as anybody. Their apathy cost this world millions of innocent lives as well as millions of soldiers lives. They let our nation's defenses weaken to the point that we were vulnerable. Plain and simple. Their mentality was no different than what yours is today. Look the other way and hope it all just goes away. You had Beetle type attitudes rallying in Pittsburg just days before we were bombed spouting the exact same passive type propaganda that you are.


We have rouge nations all over the world that are nuclear capable, near nuclear capable, or seeking ways to become nuclear capable. All you need is one crazy mad man like what sits in Teheran, like what was in Baghdad or Libya, or some terrorist group to acquire such weapons and hold the rest of the free world hostage. You have to stop some of this stuff in it's tracts before it ever has a chance to bloom. Unfortunately we have no choice but to police the rouges of the world to ensure we are able to continue to live free in this country. It's nut jobs like yourself that cant see the forest for the trees.


Are you sure that you are really not a foreign exchange student from France?

Those people rallying in Pitt had no idea that an attack was pending either. The leaders in D.C. did.

Bob we will never agree, we are not the police of the Earth. If someone is going to get their hands on a nuke, it is going to happen whether we have troops all over the globe or not.

I am for eliminating threats. Much of which can be accomplished without hundreds of thousands of boots on the ground.

I am for striking Iran's nuclear facilities and their means to make war. This can easily be done without boots on the ground. Our ships can launch enough fire power from the sea to eliminate that threat. True, Iran has hardened many of their sites, but they can only hold up to so much punishment. A few days of constant barrages and they will be gone. Their bases and defense structures could be wiped out in a week. Iran is efficient in the ability to set off an EMP attack if they had the nuclear weapon to do it. That would be 100000000 times more devastating than an actual explosion in a city.

What happens then? Hopefully the Persian people rise up against their govt who brought this on them and kick them out of power. We eliminate a "potential" nuclear threat, and hopefully those people install their own form of govt. If that new form of govt in 30 yrs heads down the same path they are now, repeat and wash.

However, in reality I am truly more concerned of Pakistan's nukes. I believe if we are ever hit with a nuke by a terrorist, it will have come from Pakistan.

Nuclear weapons are game changers, and there is truly no way to 100% police them. We do what we can on the intelligence side of things and we have to hope for the best. That is really all we can do, no amount of armed forces is going to fully prevent that.

What worsens the threat even more is constantly being involved in things we have no business being involved in. We have weakened out global standing, bankrupted our country, and created 1000 times more enemies than we had pre 9/11