[RAMDAD50]

Everybody does not know what u do Lee.The rest of us has to wait and see.I guess this goes further than football.I think some of these kids played other sports?

[Leaping Lee]

It's not going to be pretty

There could be a stiff fine involved.

[ataclance]

Everybody does not know what u do Lee.The rest of us has to wait and see.I guess this goes further than football.I think some of these kids played other sports?

Like Lee said...its gonna get ugly.

[FBALL]

Serious question: Anything like the SMU penalty?

I think ultimately this will be worse. Not just for athletics either.

[Leaping Lee]

Everybody does not know what u do Lee.The rest of us has to wait and see.I guess this goes further than football.I think some of these kids played other sports?

I really don't know anything about those kids but I know there are some ruffled feathers up in Huntington.

[Panther Thunder]

I think ultimately this will be worse. Not just for athletics either.

Wow. Certainly going to be an interesting time for EKY. Hate to see the kids that are guilty of nothing go through this.

[Diogenes]

It's not going to be pretty

Worst case scenario: you fire the superintendent and coaches and the football team is suspended from play for a season? The KHSAA is a notorious bunch of limp-noodle wrist-slappers and nothing nearly that bad will happen. Any major repercussions beyond forfeiture of a few games and a nominal fine will come from within Fairview itself if they unearth some outright corruption and decide to get rid of those responsible. Any major penalties will of course be challenged by lawsuit and reversed by a friendly local judge, as the KHSAA well knows.

[Slic Ric]

Sad situation all the way around really.

[Big Five-0-]

If true, not so great news for Pikeville. Fairview will be #4 seed.

Don't think it would make any difference to the Panthers either way.

[Leaping Lee]

I think everyone needs to understand a couple of things:

1. This will open a big can of worms for the KHSAA to start digging into
2. If you think Fairview hasn't pissed of the governing body with the injunctions and the in you face ignoring of the rules you are crazy.

The are going to absolutely blast them.

[RAM-A-DEVIL]

It will get worse once they start investigating. People will start spilling the beans about everything once investigators start showing up and asking questions. People will go into self preservation mode and tell everything they know.

[FBALL]

Worst case scenario: you fire the superintendent and coaches and the football team is suspended from play for a season? The KHSAA is a notorious bunch of limp-noodle wrist-slappers and nothing nearly that bad will happen. Any major repercussions beyond forfeiture of a few games and a nominal fine will come from within Fairview itself if they unearth some outright corruption and decide to get rid of those responsible. Any major penalties will of course be challenged by lawsuit and reversed by a friendly local judge, as the KHSAA well knows.

It's not that simple. This is a school system that was on the verge of not existing anymore before Music opened the Huntington sports pipeline and the money started rolling in. There was a very controversial school tax vote last year. Academics at Fairview are very poor. I'm not sure if when all is said and done Ashland Blazer, Boyd. County and Russell don't end up with an increase in enrollment from all of this.

[Diogenes]

The problem is the KHSAA is toothless and powerless when there's always a friendly judge who needs local votes ready and willing to overturn any KHSAA motion. I personally wish they would've passed the bill requiring all the cases against the KHSAA to be tried in Franklin County instead of locally. THEN we might actually see some enforcement.

[Leaping Lee]

Worst case scenario: you fire the superintendent and coaches and the football team is suspended from play for a season? The KHSAA is a notorious bunch of limp-noodle wrist-slappers and nothing nearly that bad will happen. Any major repercussions beyond forfeiture of a few games and a nominal fine will come from within Fairview itself if they unearth some outright corruption and decide to get rid of those responsible. Any major penalties will of course be challenged by lawsuit and reversed by a friendly local judge, as the KHSAA well knows.

Here's the thing to keep in mind. Fairview didn't have a football program 15 years ago and the school district was close to closing the doors. If they get a post season ban or worse you could see a bunch of kids going to other schools. If that is the case look for the KHSAA to be very liberal in their transfer rulings.

[RAMDAD50]

We will have to wait and see,they could use this as an example.For all of those programs flirting with the rules watch out.

[Diogenes]

Here's the thing to keep in mind. Fairview didn't have a football program 15 years ago and the school district was close to closing the doors. If they get a post season ban or worse you could see a bunch of kids going to other schools. If that is the case look for the KHSAA to be very liberal in their transfer rulings.

How much more liberal can the KHSAA possibly GET in their transfer rulings...?

[Leaping Lee]

It will get worse once they start investigating. People will start spilling the beans about everything once investigators start showing up and asking questions. People will go into self preservation mode and tell everything they know.

Just like Watergate

[FBALL]

Here's the thing to keep in mind. Fairview didn't have a football program 15 years ago and the school district was close to closing the doors. If they get a post season ban or worse you could see a bunch of kids going to other schools. If that is the case look for the KHSAA to be very liberal in their transfer rulings.

Yep

[Leaping Lee]

How much more liberal can the KHSAA possibly GET in their transfer rulings...?

The will open the door for transfers.

[RAM-A-DEVIL]

It's not that simple. This is a school system that was on the verge of not existing anymore before Music opened the Huntington sports pipeline and the money started rolling in. There was a very controversial school tax vote last year. Academics at Fairview are very poor. I'm not sure if when all is said and done Ashland Blazer, Boyd. County and Russell don't end up with an increase in enrollment from all of this.

Don't count out The Rams getting a boost in enrollment from this. We benifitted greatly in 96 when they shut their program down.

[Leaping Lee]

It's not that simple. This is a school system that was on the verge of not existing anymore before Music opened the Huntington sports pipeline and the money started rolling in. There was a very controversial school tax vote last year. Academics at Fairview are very poor. I'm not sure if when all is said and done Ashland Blazer, Boyd. County and Russell don't end up with an increase in enrollment from all of this.

That's a great point, from what I understand there are some board members very upset about the recent test scores. The amount of money spent on football has come into question.

[Diogenes]

Yep

Were all the kids from Huntington paying tuition? And even if you lose every kid from the football team over this, still, that's what, 30-40 kids?

If their financial situation is so tenuous they can't withstand the loss of 30-40 kids, their time was short anyhow.

[fourth and goal]

If true, not so great news for Pikeville. Fairview will be #4 seed.

But without coaches!
The mental attitude of the kids with all the distractions won't let them play at the same level.
Game prep from whatever coaching staff left won't be nothing like what's needed. They will have nothing going for them after this is over. The internal fighting and the kids trapped in the middle is a disaster!
You'll see kids heading for the boarder in a short time!!
Look at the bright side. They got a nice stadium out of all this mess!!

[Leaping Lee]

Don't count out The Rams getting a boost in enrollment from this. We benifitted greatly in 96 when they shut their program down.

Ashland got Arliss Beach.

I have to admit that I have mixed emotions about this situation. The kids will be fine. I have a soft spot for Fairview for unnamed reasons but I'm ecstatic that certain people are being dealt with.

[NoPicks]

So what happens tomorrow night? Nicholas County has a bus leaving for Westwood.. Play? forfeit? Who coaches?

[FBALL]

That's a great point, from what I understand there are some board members very upset about the recent test scores. The amount of money spent on football has come into question.

Yep again.

[Leaping Lee]

Were all the kids from Huntington paying tuition? And even if you lose every kid from the football team over this, still, that's what, 30-40 kids?

If their financial situation is so tenuous they can't withstand the loss of 30-40 kids, their time was short anyhow.

They are using address in Kentucky. Here's another issue that could come up. If these kids have used false address then Fairview has been receiving state funds for kids that are not residents. They could be asked to pay that back.

I'm telling you there is no limit to what could happen.

[FBALL]

Were all the kids from Huntington paying tuition? And even if you lose every kid from the football team over this, still, that's what, 30-40 kids?

If their financial situation is so tenuous they can't withstand the loss of 30-40 kids, their time was short anyhow.

You are still over simplifying the situation. It's not that black and white.

[FBALL]

They are using address in Kentucky. Here's another issue that could come up. If these kids have used false address then Fairview has been receiving state funds for kids that are not residents. They could be asked to pay that back.

I'm telling you there is no limit to what could happen.

Again. Yep.

[RAM-A-DEVIL]

WOW! This is going to get ugly. They had to have known this was going to happen. Everybody and their brother was watching them.