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President Obama getting sued
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WASHINGTON—House lawmakers voted Wednesday to authorize Speaker John Boehner to file suit against President Barack Obama on a complaint that he had overstepped his legal authority, setting up a possible constitutional test and giving both parties a potent campaign issue to take home for the five-week congressional recess.

In a 225-201 vote, the House told Mr. Boehner (R., Ohio) to move ahead with the suit. House GOP leaders have said they would focus the suit on the White House's decision last year to give employers a one-year reprieve on enforcing a requirement under theAffordable Care Act that they offer health coverage or pay a penalty. The requirement was delayed until 2015, and the White House then revised the health law further by saying employers with between 50 and 99 full-time workers wouldn't have to comply or pay a fee until 2016.

Five Republicans joined Democrats in voting against pursuing the lawsuit. No Democrats voted to move forward with the suit.

Mr. Boehner, speaking just before the vote, said Congress needed to assert its authority under the Constitution to combat executive overreach. "This isn't about Republicans and Democrats. It's about defending the Constitution we swore an oath to uphold," he said.

Mr. Obama, speaking to a friendly crowd in Kansas City ahead of the vote, said that suing him wasn't a productive thing to do.

"Everybody recognizes this is a political stunt," he said of the lawsuit. "But it's worse than that, because every vote they're taking like that means a vote they're not taking to actually help you."


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Strikeout King Wrote:WASHINGTON—House lawmakers voted Wednesday to authorize Speaker John Boehner to file suit against President Barack Obama on a complaint that he had overstepped his legal authority, setting up a possible constitutional test and giving both parties a potent campaign issue to take home for the five-week congressional recess.

In a 225-201 vote, the House told Mr. Boehner (R., Ohio) to move ahead with the suit. House GOP leaders have said they would focus the suit on the White House's decision last year to give employers a one-year reprieve on enforcing a requirement under theAffordable Care Act that they offer health coverage or pay a penalty. The requirement was delayed until 2015, and the White House then revised the health law further by saying employers with between 50 and 99 full-time workers wouldn't have to comply or pay a fee until 2016.

Five Republicans joined Democrats in voting against pursuing the lawsuit. No Democrats voted to move forward with the suit.

Mr. Boehner, speaking just before the vote, said Congress needed to assert its authority under the Constitution to combat executive overreach. "This isn't about Republicans and Democrats. It's about defending the Constitution we swore an oath to uphold," he said.

Mr. Obama, speaking to a friendly crowd in Kansas City ahead of the vote, said that suing him wasn't a productive thing to do.

"Everybody recognizes this is a political stunt," he said of the lawsuit. "But it's worse than that, because every vote they're taking like that means a vote they're not taking to actually help you."


http://online.wsj.com/articles/house-vot...1406760762


I remember back when Dems first started this line of rationale. Media, Republicans and even many of their own party, challenged the idea that the federal government is supposed to "help" people. Countering that party line rationale as ludacris, they insisted that living in a safe environment with guaranteed equality of opportunity, along with the surety afforded by our very successful free system of enterprise is what gives all Americans all the help they would ever need. The argument was walked back to sort of a DNC safe zone in which the Dems then maintained that they could "create" jobs.

Well, as rule #10 of Saul Alinsky's rules for radicals suggests, “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive” , we see that repetition has done it's work. The drumbeat of the Dem's mantra has largely been accepted by many Americans these days. Thus, the idea that government can create jobs is scarcely even questioned in our time, there are even government driven statistics to back the idea up. The federal government of present day has carried that idea to extremes in that Americans are becoming convinced that the source of all that they have is largely a provision of the government. This idea will continue until the economy is sufficiently stifled to the point where the money to fund the lunacy dries up. Even now the supply of tax dollars being extorted from law abiding citizens (via legislation and regulation) who still work, is nearing the tipping point. In economics this idea is known as the Law of Diminishing Returns. And states that a static or decreasing income applied to increasing operational demands has a degrading effect on profit. Another short point about repetition is best exemplified by the Tea Party deal. Those folks have done narry a thing wrong except for the possible exception of a much needed national civics lesson. Yet, if I didn't know better and in listening to the left, I might think the Tea Party was an offshoot of the NAZI's or Hitler's Brownshirts, LOL.

Those who are at all familiar with the thought processes of Thomas Jefferson know that his fears have begun to come to pass. The federal government has begun to supplant man's aspirations to succeed by his own hand with expectations of gifts from the government. It seems the founding fathers were correct in their assumptions that man, perhaps especially free men, are susceptible to bowing before government. The American model most of us grew up under is one of self governance. But, the moment Americans began to accept the gifts from the federal government, the chain reaction leading to dependence was begun.

In fact, the whole thing kicked into overdrive at the hand of renowned liberal Lyndon Baines Johnson, who initiated the Great Society movement of the late 1960's. Since that day America has been spiraling into government dependence. Hence these days, if one grew up poor rather than reaching out to succeed, he now blames those who have money for their problems as the federal government paints the successful as greedy and unfair. In a word, the whole argument is boiled down to the following catch phrase being bandied about for the coming election season, "income inequality."

It's almost impossible to overstate the impact that complacency, especially voter complacency, has had on the direction of this country. Satisfied and uninterested zombies who've largely been handed off to their party affiliations by their parents, sell their votes to the highest bidder. What can you do for me, is the question. This rationale is driven as I said, by a culture of folks who've been taught to look to government for stuff, or even better FREE stuff. After all, the idea of health care was sold under the guise of getting another of life's necessities free of charge from the government. Believe me, only the non contributors of this land will benefit, everybody else will bow under the load of mismanaged and vastly overpriced health care. The major bit of irony about ObamaCare, is the fact that the first folks recruited were the self same health insurance companies that the liberals said drove up the price and railed against to help sway the minds of voters in the first place.

Optimistically, we're inside of 100 days until the mid-terms when we could see this mess turned around. :biggrin:
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