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Trump, the political hurricane, still rages
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/polit.../31376365/

WASHINGTON — The political hurricane that is Donald Trump didn’t recede over the weekend, even in the face of a rising tide of criticism from Republican rivals about his attack on Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly.

Instead, the celebrity billionaire insisted in a string of interviews on Sunday TV shows that he had done nothing wrong, that “only a deviant” would interpret his words in an offensive way, and that he is leaving open the possibility of running an independent campaign for the White House if the GOP doesn't treat him “fairly.”

“I do have leverage and I like having leverage,” Trump declared on CBS’ Face the Nation on a morning that also included interviews with ABC’s This Week, CNN’s State of the Union and NBC’s Meet the Press.

Some Republicans are hoping that Trump's meteoric rise may be peaking, in part because of his refusal to promise to support the Republican nominee in the general election if it’s not him. Opponents also have focused on his past support of liberal policies and contributions to Democratic candidates, including likely 2016 nominee Hillary Clinton.

His latest comments — which seemed to attribute tough questioning in Thursday’s debate by Kelly to female hormones — were “completely beyond the pale,” said Republican strategist Liz Mair, who attended the conservative RedState Gathering in Atlanta over the weekend. She said an increasing number of Republicans have soured on Trump. “Hopefully, we’re at the point where he is only hurting himself.”

For a conventional presidential contender, Trump’s latest burst of inflammatory language would be a political catastrophe.
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I think Trump's rise in the polls are due to the fact that he says what he thinks. No holds barred. We've all heard political rhetoric for so long that even if his comments are offensive, they are a breath of fresh air to some.
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Trump has as much chance as i do winning for president. Even if he wins going into the conventions he knows the republican will sell him out at the conventions. So he will be forced to run Ind. Marked it down you heared it here first 64SUR Confusedecret:
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64SUR for President!!!!!

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64SUR Wrote:Trump has as much chance as i do winning for president. Even if he wins going into the conventions he knows the republican will sell him out at the conventions. So he will be forced to run Ind. Marked it down you heared it here first 64SUR Confusedecret:
If Trump runs on a third-party ticket, I doubt that anybody will have heard it here first. I don't trust The Donald because he has a history of liberal positions and close ties to liberal Democrats, including the Clintons. He plays games with his cards close to his vest. Nobody can be sure of what Trump will do because that uncertainty gets him the attention that he craves so much.
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Hoot Gibson Wrote:If Trump runs on a third-party ticket, I doubt that anybody will have heard it here first. I don't trust The Donald because he has a history of liberal positions and close ties to liberal Democrats, including the Clintons. He plays games with his cards close to his vest. Nobody can be sure of what Trump will do because that uncertainty gets him the attention that he craves so much.

He your leader at this point and time Hoot. Fox's News will help y'all soon when the money starts rolling in. Sh%t even Jack Conway is buying time on Fox's now I'm worrying. :popcorn: :please: nobody get upset with me I'm just and old yellow dog democrat.
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64SUR Wrote:Trump has as much chance as i do winning for president. Even if he wins going into the conventions he knows the republican will sell him out at the conventions. So he will be forced to run Ind. Marked it down you heared it here first 64SUR Confusedecret:

It isn't Comic Con.

Your getting you politics and cartoons confused again you old bat.
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Stardust Wrote:http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/polit.../31376365/

WASHINGTON — The political hurricane that is Donald Trump didn’t recede over the weekend, even in the face of a rising tide of criticism from Republican rivals about his attack on Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly.

Instead, the celebrity billionaire insisted in a string of interviews on Sunday TV shows that he had done nothing wrong, that “only a deviant” would interpret his words in an offensive way, and that he is leaving open the possibility of running an independent campaign for the White House if the GOP doesn't treat him “fairly.”

“I do have leverage and I like having leverage,” Trump declared on CBS’ Face the Nation on a morning that also included interviews with ABC’s This Week, CNN’s State of the Union and NBC’s Meet the Press.

Some Republicans are hoping that Trump's meteoric rise may be peaking, in part because of his refusal to promise to support the Republican nominee in the general election if it’s not him. Opponents also have focused on his past support of liberal policies and contributions to Democratic candidates, including likely 2016 nominee Hillary Clinton.

His latest comments — which seemed to attribute tough questioning in Thursday’s debate by Kelly to female hormones — were “completely beyond the pale,” said Republican strategist Liz Mair, who attended the conservative RedState Gathering in Atlanta over the weekend. She said an increasing number of Republicans have soured on Trump. “Hopefully, we’re at the point where he is only hurting himself.”

For a conventional presidential contender, Trump’s latest burst of inflammatory language would be a political catastrophe.


This is what gets me the most and makes people like this woman sound so ignorant. Of Course Trump could slide into oblivion. However, to say hes turned off voters when every post debate poll has shown his lead to grow since before the debate drives me nuts.
Its kind of like global warming for dems where they hope if they say it enough, eventually it will come true.
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Still....Trump lost some with me. He just didn't go the core of several issues that were presented to him. I was disappointed. He ducked & dodged. I've had way too much of that with the current President.
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RunItUpTheGut Wrote:This is what gets me the most and makes people like this woman sound so ignorant. Of Course Trump could slide into oblivion. However, to say hes turned off voters when every post debate poll has shown his lead to grow since before the debate drives me nuts.
Its kind of like global warming for dems where they hope if they say it enough, eventually it will come true.



It isn't that liberals actually believe that voters have started to sour on Trump. That is what they would like to have happen, therefore, they start repeating it over and over. It's a form of mind manipulation intended to help make something happen they would like to see, as in the case of a dreaded Trump nomination. This kind of reverse psychology has proven to be very effective on the low info types (especially when delivered on the evening news) because it only takes a catch phrase or slogan implanted repetitively to give many of them their entire view on the matter. I believe it was Saul Alinski who said that people will believe anything if it is repeated often enough.

Dems do it all the time. For example, the assault on the successful in this land has been highly effective, and consists of not much more than a by-line. "They're one percenters." That helped to sink the Mitt Romney campaign because as a consequence, it was largely shallow Republicans who helped Obama meet his reelection threshold. And, as I have already mentioned, the droning propaganda onslaught of the ObamaCare success story and how great the Iran nuclear deal will be are two more examples.

No, it has always killed me that the Republicans seem incapable of rebuff where it comes to allowing the Dems to constantly redefine them. And, that's one thing I like about Trump. He knows who he is, and is not suffering from some sort of social PC identity crisis. Most of the arguments emanating from the DNC are so stupid on their face that anybody who thinks for themselves will reject said arguments out of hand as soon as they hear them. Frankly, the liberals are scared to death of him.

After 8 years of Barack Hussein and the prospect of Hillary at the helm for the next 8, ought to be enough to sober everybody with regard to whether or not they can trust Trump to govern effectively. I mean folks, it's curtains if she gets elected. Even if Trump does make a couple of mistakes he would have to be much better in the captain's chair than either of those two liberal loons. Ironically, labor has been eager to sell their own souls for the sake of the supposed prosperity that the Dems bring to them. So, why on earth would they not at least secretly be hoping to get an industrial mover and shaker like Trump in office? Hill's already declared more give aways and EPA forced shut downs. I don't get it. At any rate, I will take mistakes we can work our way out of over a manipulated transformation anytime.
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What bothers me the most about every politician today is that the number one thing, and hell the only thing that should be discussed is the economy. That is and will be the number one thing voters want talked about but instead they all must serenade us with set agendas.
If you're going to get my vote you must be a jobs president first. Economy is number one over all else. Most Dems consider this a non issue. If you want.to shut down the coal industry what are you going to do to replace the millions of jobs that are directly and indirectly dependent on it. Same for any other agendas that involve shutting down jobs for some reason.
The fact that Obama's henchmen just dumped 3 million gallons of toxic waste into the Colorado shows me all I need to about how good the EPA is. I don't recall the cumberland or Ohio ever having three million gallons of anything other than water dumped into it.
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While i would like to see the personal attacks stop, he is defending himself. At some point though, you just have to ignore them and get on with the issues at hand. Like GUT, i'm more about jobs when it comes to a President. I'm also a huge fan of foreign policy, but we have to get this country straight first. I hear people saying nobody cares about illegals, guess what? You better start caring. I'm hoping for Trump/Cruz right now, unless one just goes bat crap crazy and has a meltdown. That would be my choice running together. Trump's business sense, Cruz IMO is a genius with everything else.
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Cruz impressed me more than anybody on the panel.
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Granny Bear Wrote:Cruz impressed me more than anybody on the panel.


If nominated and elected, Cruz would likely become the greatest President since Ronald Reagan. In fact, I can see him besting Reagan in many areas. I'm not going to get all excited though until and unless he gets the nomination.

I'd lay odds that the President makers ala Karl Rove want Jeb Bush in there. The problem would be in getting him elected. Of all the candidates, his name brand is fraught with baggage left over from H and W. A Bush candidacy would probably provide Hillary with her best shot at getting elected in reusing and rehashing all the dirt and lies left over from W.
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Cruz doesn't get excited and doesn't makes mistakes.
That's a presidential quality.
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Trump spoke to thousands of supporters this evening in an Alabama football stadium. The press have been trying their best to bring shame and embarrassment on him and other GOP candidates for their "anchor baby" comments. All have taken Trump's lead on the matter who has laughed in their faces passing it off as if it doesn't matter. And guess what? It really doesn't matter, LOL. The uber left media are going to hammer away about the anchor baby reference just like they did the 47% comment that Romney made. The difference is that Trump is confident enough to stand by the truth where others have not.

As I have mentioned on here a number of times, I really hate the fact that Republicans allow the Dems and their sock puppet media groupies to define them. And, no matter what history records regarding the Presidential election of 2016, one thing that will have revealed itself is the fact that it's okay to speak the truth. Trump has demonstrated that fact in a way that is absolutely undeniable. Republicans have been extremely reluctant to challenge the Dems on a single thing because of the dreaded government shutdown threat. The last time we saw a government shutdown, rigid Dems calling Republicans obstructionists, refused to give one millimeter on a single thing. Ultimately forcing a government shutdown, Dems knew the media would help them hang the all the blame for it on the Republicans. And they did just that. We got the sequester for our troubles as Republicans were blamed for that too even though it was the brain child of Obama.

Frankly, if you ask me Trump's contribution to the GOP has already been historic. Men have lost the nerve to be men these days. I have long wanted to see a Republican brave enough to just stand up, speak the truth and hold their ground ala Ronald Reagan. When the La-La's try to hang a name them, or run some other playground ruse, candidates should call them out and do what Trump does, laugh in their face and blow them off. I'll tell you right now I heard Reagan do that on live TV with my own ears and, more than once.

The short of it is this, it is possible though not inescapable, that at least some Republicans could actually wake up, put on their big boy pants and govern like men for a change. And if they do, they've (or should I say we've) got one guy to thank for it, Donald Trump. At least he recognizes that the US Treasury is as empty as Old Mother Hubbard's cupboard. US dollars have brought the Chinese into the 21st Century, as well as Japan and Mexico. That stadium was not full, but there were certainly thousands there and they were all on their feet cheering and pumping fists! I heard nearly the entire speech, and I must admit he had me jacked up too. The only guy I'd rather see get the nomination right now would have to be Cruz.

If either one of them gets the nomination and then wins the election, it would be like stepping out of the dark ages straight into the Reagan era.
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^Excellent analysis, TRT. I agree on all counts. If nothing else, Trump is demonstrating that an articulate conservative with guts can change minds and hearts. I am not sure Trump is a true conservative, but if he is not, then he is doing a good job playing one on TV.
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Hoot Gibson Wrote:^Excellent analysis, TRT. I agree on all counts. If nothing else, Trump is demonstrating that an articulate conservative with guts can change minds and hearts. I am not sure Trump is a true conservative, but if he is not, then he is doing a good job playing one on TV.



Thank you Hoot. Just this morning I heard a rabid liberal trying to defend the government's forays into the housing market. The federal government owns a fantastic number of single and multi family homes across the US, in which they house the poor (or whatever). At any rate, during his defense this guy quoted his grandfather whom he referred to as papaw. When will these die hard Democrats get one simple fact through their decidedly thick skulls? The Democratic Party of their grandfathers bares no faint similarity to today's liberal socialist Democrats. It would therefore be much more apropos to quote Lenin or Trotsky than the grandfathers of the Democratic Party. Somewhere along the timeline, my opinion is the time of Bill Clinton onward, the Dems morphed into socialists. They had to. If they were going to buy votes, every coming election season they were going to have to up the ante to spur the interest of the takers. I would point to both the socialist message and the crowds Bernie Sanders has drawn to make that case.

But, with regard to Trump's integrity. Conservatism is something that is hard to fake in live, largely off-the-cuff and interactive speeches like I heard last night. He interacts freely with the spontaneous comments he hears from the crowd, often incorporating said comments into his presentation. In fact, one thing that has been conspicuously missing from all of his appearances has been a teleprompter. IMO, if he was being anything other than honest and if he was speaking from anyplace other than his heart, he'd surely have slipped up by now.

I wasn't one of those who were taken in by the Obama charisma in 2008. Several of his comments chilled me in fact but, the one that tipped me off to the trouble coming our way was his comment about America's unethical usage of energy. I thought huh? It's ours to use is it not? So here we are 7 years later and America as she exists today is diminished in every possible category save one, debt. I believe sooner or later everybody tips their hand, equally I believe Trump is authentic. Whether or not he can deliver on all he has promised, only time would tell. And yet, even if he delivers on a portion of what he has said, he would be a great President.
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China is worried about Trump. Is anybody else just asking.
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64SUR Wrote:China is worried about Trump. Is anybody else just asking.



If China is worried about Trump, it is because if elected he would immediately make policy changes that would put the squeeze on the amount of profit rolling in from the US.

Trump reminds me of the quintessential head coach. As in the case of every head coach, in order to be successful he would need to install really good people in positions of leadership and then allow them to lead. A lot of areas come to mind, from US Atty General to Sec of State, to flushing personnel associated with the EPA. And you just know there has to be somebody much more qualified to lead the treasury department. I'd like to see one who is tried and true for that post, somebody like Art Laffer.

But, if you're concerned what might happen if one man, unreasonably brazen enough to ignore the sage advice of all his generals and others in critical positions around him, and who surrounds himself by a bunch of yes men, pajama boy think tankers and goofy women, who has too much power and makes too many decisions would do to the state of the Union. I give you exhibit 'A', Barack Obama.
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Trump is still paying for telling the truth in that debate, when he held up his hand confirming that he would not support "anybody" that was nominated from the GOP. GOP caucuses from NC and VA now want to make that a crime punishable by squeezing him out of the running.

That was one of the things that I liked about Trump during the debate. It's a lot like the political pundits are afraid to tear away from what the GOP wants them to do. THAT is the kind of conduct that disgusts me. When did it become unfavorable to ANY party to state the simple truth??
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Yeah how dare someone want the truth in an election. That's the problem, the country is tired of the "Norm", they've had all the lies and promise of change they can take, only problem being the politicians don't get that, they want it to be business as usual. If nothing else, Trump's campaign should wake up some of the candidates and show them that it is time to change their strategy. The days of just saying what they think we want to hear is over
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Very true and as such is the impetus behind the Trump phenomena. Hopefully people are up to their eyeballs with the lies. The practice of lying to the voter started as just a few white lies hear and there but, since the legal shenanigans of the venerable William Jefferson Clinton, the practice has banged afterburner, so to speak.

Being quite comfortable in their beds of self delusion, gullible and slumbering voters have been the source of much consternation as they will seemingly swallow any thing served up to them by the DNC or their media comrades in arms rather than to make any kind of an effort to vet the drivel they hear. During the 80's and 90's both the media and Dems dared to stretch the truth, but not like they are willing to do in our time. What has always driven me up the wall is the willingness of the public to believe or disbelieve what they hear based on the party affiliation of those speaking. Such a concept is so patently absurd on it's face I would have never expected to see those using it to reap much in the way of benefit but, was I ever wrong! So, summarizing the political knowledge of the low information voter would go something like this; "Dems can't lie and Republicans can't tell the truth."


To borrow a movie line, let us hope that "the sleeper has awakened."
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64SUR Wrote:China is worried about Trump. Is anybody else just asking.

If China is worried about Trump, Barry should resign tomorrow and let the Donald have his seat. A scared China is good for us.
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Granny Bear Wrote:Trump is still paying for telling the truth in that debate, when he held up his hand confirming that he would not support "anybody" that was nominated from the GOP. GOP caucuses from NC and VA now want to make that a crime punishable by squeezing him out of the running.

That was one of the things that I liked about Trump during the debate. It's a lot like the political pundits are afraid to tear away from what the GOP wants them to do. THAT is the kind of conduct that disgusts me. When did it become unfavorable to ANY party to state the simple truth??

Like half of the questions in that debate, it shouldn't have even been asked. She wanted a spectacle and she got one.
The GOP would be completely absurd if they want to keep Trump from the ticket in those states. It is things like that, that is making Americans absolutely sick and tired of politicians no matter who they are. Lindsay Graham actually had the gall to say today that he would whip Trump in S. Carolina. Never mind the polls that show Graham with less than 5% in Carolina while Trump leads with 25 or so. These career pols are scared and they should be. Dem or Repub, almost everyone is garbage.
Trump has show what happens when someone playing the roll of hardcore conservative that says what the American people overwhelmingly agree with but are to PC to say that it works. Trump could be completely phony, who knows. I do know a lot of people are "appalled" by some of the things he is saying, but the funny thing is the majority "agrees".

Im not sure Trump has said anything I disagree with, at least I haven't heard it.
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Hoot Gibson Wrote:If Trump runs on a third-party ticket, I doubt that anybody will have heard it here first. I don't trust The Donald because he has a history of liberal positions and close ties to liberal Democrats, including the Clintons. He plays games with his cards close to his vest. Nobody can be sure of what Trump will do because that uncertainty gets him the attention that he craves so much.

But whatever he does will be better than the incompetent and corrupt people running the show now...
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TheRealThing Wrote:Trump spoke to thousands of supporters this evening in an Alabama football stadium. The press have been trying their best to bring shame and embarrassment on him and other GOP candidates for their "anchor baby" comments. All have taken Trump's lead on the matter who has laughed in their faces passing it off as if it doesn't matter. And guess what? It really doesn't matter, LOL. The uber left media are going to hammer away about the anchor baby reference just like they did the 47% comment that Romney made. The difference is that Trump is confident enough to stand by the truth where others have not.

As I have mentioned on here a number of times, I really hate the fact that Republicans allow the Dems and their sock puppet media groupies to define them. And, no matter what history records regarding the Presidential election of 2016, one thing that will have revealed itself is the fact that it's okay to speak the truth. Trump has demonstrated that fact in a way that is absolutely undeniable. Republicans have been extremely reluctant to challenge the Dems on a single thing because of the dreaded government shutdown threat. The last time we saw a government shutdown, rigid Dems calling Republicans obstructionists, refused to give one millimeter on a single thing. Ultimately forcing a government shutdown, Dems knew the media would help them hang the all the blame for it on the Republicans. And they did just that. We got the sequester for our troubles as Republicans were blamed for that too even though it was the brain child of Obama.

Frankly, if you ask me Trump's contribution to the GOP has already been historic. Men have lost the nerve to be men these days. I have long wanted to see a Republican brave enough to just stand up, speak the truth and hold their ground ala Ronald Reagan. When the La-La's try to hang a name them, or run some other playground ruse, candidates should call them out and do what Trump does, laugh in their face and blow them off. I'll tell you right now I heard Reagan do that on live TV with my own ears and, more than once.

The short of it is this, it is possible though not inescapable, that at least some Republicans could actually wake up, put on their big boy pants and govern like men for a change. And if they do, they've (or should I say we've) got one guy to thank for it, Donald Trump. At least he recognizes that the US Treasury is as empty as Old Mother Hubbard's cupboard. US dollars have brought the Chinese into the 21st Century, as well as Japan and Mexico. That stadium was not full, but there were certainly thousands there and they were all on their feet cheering and pumping fists! I heard nearly the entire speech, and I must admit he had me jacked up too. The only guy I'd rather see get the nomination right now would have to be Cruz.

If either one of them gets the nomination and then wins the election, it would be like stepping out of the dark ages straight into the Reagan era.

Best thing I have read in ages. So glad you are on BGR TRT.:Thumbs:
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jetpilot Wrote:But whatever he does will be better than the incompetent and corrupt people running the show now...
That is true if Trump is not Hillary's stalking horse. Trump has a history of supporting some very liberal positions, including universal, single-payer health care. He has also provided financial support for liberal Democratic politicians and actively opposed Tea Party candidates.

I have no intention of jumping on Trump's bandwagon, but I do like the way that he is running his campaign. A country's leader should be able to speak intelligently without dual teleprompters, and Trump passes that test with flying colors.
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Thank you for the kind words Jetpilot. At the outset of Trump's Alabama speech the wishful thinking media were downplaying the event, claiming there were around 10,000 in attendance. Which would still have been a good number but, as has since been reported, the actual attendance was over 30,000.

The media are drunk with the power they perceive themselves to hold over the masses. They are so accustomed to swaying elections and the fortunes of candidates, who knows what they will do if Trump actually wins the nomination? One can only hope, and vote, LOL! Though my pick is still Cruz. Obviously it has not occurred to many folks is that most of the manipulations of the media, and almost all political rhetoric is a pack of lies.

It is my hope that by the grace of God, the silent majority will have their eyes opened to those lies. Trump's frank and off-the-cuff speeches which are often laced with spontaneous exchanges with those in the crowds before him. Those exchanges greatly enhance the effectiveness and genuineness of Trump's message. No matter what happens, he has singlehandedly managed to fire up potential voters like no other I have heard. Even the excitement that swept through Ronald Reagan's crowds is by my reckoning, somewhat reserved by comparison. Here's hoping that media and politicians will be forced to account for their comments by the greatest secular force this nation has, the voter.

On a side note, it did me a lot of good to see Trump take Jorge Ramos off at the ankles the way he did last evening. If Ramos had his way, all of Mexico would be allowed to roam freely in and out of America.
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