[WideRight05]

I do not enter a woman's womb. The statistic was a fact, which you chose to spin. The quote is from the oral argument of Roe v. Wade and is not a comment on the speaker. In other places, I have said I believe in the sincerity of those of the religious Right on this forum, and in friendships. I do not share the view that "essential liberty" is bounded by any one religion's or its adherant's convictions. Certainly abortions were not unheard of in the days of Jefferson and company, nor was homosexuality. In my view, to defend essential liberty is not to defend the myriad behaviors and choices that free people might and do make. It is to defend their right to make them. Essential liberty may include more than it did in 1776, but it should never include less. I completely reject the idea that interpreting the Constitution in ways consistent with essential liberty and freedom of conscience is somehow beyond the pale of consideration when thinking about the Framers.

No, you tried to spin it when I said the country has become more pro-life by taking a small segment, although I am one, that believes in eliminating abortion entirely. You spun it as if only "7 to 19 percent" of the country was pro-life. Sure, some believe in exceptions, and I disagree with that, but it's certainly a lot better than supporting the other 95% of abortions, or being "pro-choice," as you have acknowledged doing.

If somebody wants to make poor decisions in life, there has been nothing stopping them. That's the problem with trying to make it law that it's okay, making special protected classes and putting a stamp of approval on these behaviors. If you are so passionate about rights, what about the rights of the unborn? Doesn't a baby have rights?

You talk about defending freedom of conscience, when many of these people who are "pro-choice" have supported laws in California and Illinois which would force doctors, pregnancy care centers, etc. to promote abortion - which the Illinois bill describes as "treatment." This administration was in a lawsuit with Little Sisters of the Poor, for crying out loud. The multiple attempts recently to force Churches, businesses, and pregnancy care centers show that it's much more than just about "choice" - in the eyes of the liberal, the word choice means "comply."

You are quite passionately defending something that has resulted in the deaths of over one million pre-born children per year.