[WideRight05]

The primaries are over and so are the outcomes/predictions. Gary Johnson is bouncing off the 8% mark and even though manipulated polls would have us believe it's more like 12-13%, there are still only two possibilities come this fall. Trump or Hillary.

The thing I think to be hysterical is people on the one hand saying they just don't trust Trump, and I hear that a lot, while on the other seeming to either not care or not realize that Hillary's exploits literally command us not to trust her. Despite the lying media/establishment rationales flying around, the truth is Hillary cannot be trusted under any circumstances and Trump deserves the benefit of the doubt. But with the media propaganda campaign drumbeating in everybody's ears 24/7, there will be things that will stick on the wall, and don't think they don't know it. One would really have to be on guard to not be in some way indoctrinated. The reason Trump has support is because people are tired of being lied to and he's saying the right things. IMHO, if Hillary is elected, by the end of her term the carefree existence under which I grew up will be long gone. There will be no opportunity after that to right the ship because those Obama policies that might be undone a few months from now, will be hardened concrete 4 years on down the road. Deny that all you want, but you know it's true. ABTW, the vastly overblown down ticket worries the #NeverTrumpsters are fretting over this time, will come to pass if Hillary is elected.

Hoot is on here campaigning against Trump not on the issues, but in using character assassination tactics and predictions of certain doom that at this point, cannot be substantiated in any way. If you don't want to be pegged to him, maybe you should consider that even Seger disagrees with him and has come out and said so on several occasions.

Hoot's the only one doing character assassination? You may want to take a look in the mirror at some of your posts. The only thing you have done is try to use the crowd supporting Trump and "it's not Hillary" in your arguments. Twist my words all you want to try to pin me to Hoot to avoid having to defend yourselves - believe me, I can't take many of these Trump supporters serious at all so if you want to keep twisting my words then I will be honored to be pegged to Hoot. Oh, so Bob Seger disagrees with Hoot. I should be a good little lemming and change my opinions. I like and respect Bob Seger and enjoy joking around with him a lot on here, but I'm not going to just change my opinion because he disagrees with Hoot. This whole time you have been trying to use the crowd to sway me. I don't think like that, and find it funny that you keep thinking that throwing Chris Christie or whoever at me is going to pressure me into supporting Trump. :hilarious:

You just admitted that Trump told you want to hear - that's exactly what he has based his campaign on and people are falling for the bait hook, line, and sinker. Trump has been inconsistent in some of the positions he has taken. The thing I find hysterical is that people actually are taking to this guy like a magnet despite a questionable past and present.

If Hillary wins, we know what we're getting - another hardcore liberal. She is going to struggle herself getting Bernie Sanders' supporters after the rigged primary. With Trump, we stand a chance of losing the conservative movement and replacing it with a populist one. If this movement was about conservatism, then unity would be much greater. It's not. It's about a man with an ego through the roof that still thinks he is in primary mode, thus the result of only 75% support from his own party.

There are no good choices this election. I would like to see us turn things around as a society, but I feel like we went past the tipping point long ago.