[Pulp Fiction]

We are on the brink of the 2nd American Civil War..... watch the news, it's going to happen. We are more divided as a nation than we have been in the past 150 years.


But here is the tricky part.... what will the demographics be?

White vs. Black
North vs. South
East vs. West
Republicans vs. Democrats
Hispanic vs. Black
The Citizens vs. the Government
Christians vs. muslims
Straight vs. LGBTQ

There are so many different ways it could break down, it is scary.

[The Urban Sombrero]

"We are on the brink of a 2nd civil war." Having watched the news, I see your premise as hyperbole. Unrest in the streets? Yes. Protest at the conventions? Yes. Civil war? Hardly.

[Pulp Fiction]

"We are on the brink of a 2nd civil war." Having watched the news, I see your premise as hyperbole. Unrest in the streets? Yes. Protest at the conventions? Yes. Civil war? Hardly.

Little things lead to big things.

[The Urban Sombrero]

By 1861, there was a Jefferson Davis and a seceded Confederacy. At this point, in my view, talk of a "2nd civil war" is, at best, far-fetched imaginings.

[Demarcus ware]

We are on the brink of the 2nd American Civil War..... watch the news, it's going to happen. We are more divided as a nation than we have been in the past 150 years.


But here is the tricky part.... what will the demographics be?

White vs. Black
North vs. South
East vs. West
Republicans vs. Democrats
Hispanic vs. Black
The Citizens vs. the Government
Christians vs. muslims
Straight vs. LGBTQ

There are so many different ways it could break down, it is scary.

I'd say as for demographics it will be common sense vs Terrorist, Black lives matter, illegals, democrats, and a few RINO's in DC nicker:

[Granny Bear]

What does the "Q" mean in LGBTQ??

[SKINNYPIG]

What does the "Q" mean in LGBTQ??

Lol, you know.

[Demarcus ware]

What does the "Q" mean in LGBTQ??

Seriously? nicker: Queer or sometimes Questioning. I googled it cause I wasn't sure if it really was lol

[Granny Bear]

I swear to you Pig..I didn't know!!

I have lived a sheltered life in the mountains!

[Granny Bear]

I think it will come down to a war between Liberals and Conservatives.

It will be a short war, too. Libs won't have any guns!

[Pulp Fiction]

Granny Bear.... Q means Questioning. No joke.

They are Questioning their Gender or Sexual Orientation.

[Granny Bear]

Questioning?? Why don't the just take a look?

Sorry, but I'm so out of touch with this younger generation...I just don't understand a great part of it.

Okay Skinny Pig.....did YOU know it was "questioning"?????

[Pulp Fiction]

Granny Bear, this may help you out.

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[Granny Bear]

Oh.......yeah.......thanks Pulp.

It's as clear as mud now!!

[SKINNYPIG]

Questioning?? Why don't the just take a look?

Sorry, but I'm so out of touch with this younger generation...I just don't understand a great part of it.

Okay Skinny Pig.....did YOU know it was "questioning"?????

Most certainly did!

[The Urban Sombrero]

Does anybody here believe that if it had of been a lesbian who had come out to the well to draw water, she would have met a Christ with a far different spirit than most of his followers show to this particular kind of sin? I am not suggesting he wouldn't have pointed out her lifestyle as sin. I am suggesting she would have sensed he loved her and did not view her as a person to be ridiculed, cheapened, or made the battleground for some kind of culture war. Instead, a woman who had five ex husbands and presently lived with a man out of wedlock came.

[RunItUpTheGut]

Civil war would never happened again unless the federal government over stepped there bounds on people from certain parts of the country, such as forcing themselves into homes to take weapons unlawfully. That would create militias, but even then, it would be extremely hard with so many people spread so far out.
Plus, they would never let the southern conservatives run there own govt. It would make the US look to bad. There would be no socialist programs, it would operate as a surplus, and everybody from the northern and western liberal hell holes would all want to move in. We would have to build a wall nicker:

[Granny Bear]

Does anybody here believe that if it had of been a lesbian who had come out to the well to draw water, she would have met a Christ with a far different spirit than most of his followers show to this particular kind of sin? I am not suggesting he wouldn't have pointed out her lifestyle as sin. I am suggesting she would have sensed he loved her and did not view her as a person to be ridiculed, cheapened, or made the battleground for some kind of culture war. Instead, a woman who had five ex husbands and presently lived with a man out of wedlock came.

I think this is very valid. It all boils down to the question...are there "degrees" of sin? Is one sin worse than the other?

[Granny Bear]

Most certainly did!

:pondering:

[TheRealThing]

Does anybody here believe that if it had of been a lesbian who had come out to the well to draw water, she would have met a Christ with a far different spirit than most of his followers show to this particular kind of sin? I am not suggesting he wouldn't have pointed out her lifestyle as sin. I am suggesting she would have sensed he loved her and did not view her as a person to be ridiculed, cheapened, or made the battleground for some kind of culture war. Instead, a woman who had five ex husbands and presently lived with a man out of wedlock came.

I'll give you a hint;
Romans 1:26-27 (KJV)
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Since your obvious intent is to minimize the significance of this "particular kind" of sin, why don't you ease up a bit with the liberal equivocations and explain why it was then, that God incinerated Sodom and Gomorrah which had just been specifically called out for homosexuality?

Homosexuality is always and has always been, grievously wrong behavior, hence the presence of STD's. However, it is in the open acceptance of any society of the homosexual life style, (as in the case of Sodom and apparently now the US) which is the indisputable harbinger that judgment is imminently coming as well as societal collapse. There will be no gay priests in heaven, nor any gay people. The one thing you failed to mention in your analysis, but is none the less key in understanding how the woman at the well and all sinners can be forgiven, may be seen in Christ's last words to her; "Go, and sin no more."She didn't sin anymore by the way. The same is true for all sin, and any person guilty of homosexuality must repent of it and live from that time forward in the power which is the promised gift of God.

Not all will be able to turn from the grip of sin and that is the ultimate danger here. Once you've been turned over, or 'given up' to a reprobate mind it's too late. At the cultural level, once society has deteriorated to the point that homosexuality is embraced as a viable alternative lifestyle, it's too late. So, at an individual level the sin of homosexuality is deadly stuff and he is real trouble, but once it becomes reflected in a society as it has in US law and foreign policy, then that whole country is in peril.

[Real Badman]

Barack Obama is similar to James Buchanan.

[The Urban Sombrero]

⬆⬆ A couple of "angels" hang with Lot. A group of men come by and demand to have a gang rape scenario with these two "strangers." Lot offers his daughters instead. The crowd says, "No way...bring out the two strangers." A short time before, Abram begged God to spare the cities if only 10 righteous people could be located in them. Couldn't be done. There is debauchery throughout this sordid tale. However, it would be less than correct to say S&G were destroyed singularly because of homosexual behavior, given the entire context of the story as related in Genesis.

[The Urban Sombrero]

I'll give you a hint;
Romans 1:26-27 (KJV)
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Since your obvious intent is to minimize the significance of this "particular kind" of sin, why don't you ease up a bit with the liberal equivocations and explain why it was then, that God incinerated Sodom and Gomorrah which had just been specifically called out for homosexuality?

Homosexuality is always and has always been, grievously wrong behavior, hence the presence of STD's. However, it is in the open acceptance of any society of the homosexual life style, (as in the case of Sodom and apparently now the US) which is the indisputable harbinger that judgment is imminently coming as well as societal collapse. There will be no gay priests in heaven, nor any gay people. The one thing you failed to mention in your analysis, but is none the less key in understanding how the woman at the well and all sinners can be forgiven, may be seen in Christ's last words to her; "Go, and sin no more."She didn't sin anymore by the way. The same is true for all sin, and any person guilty of homosexuality must repent of it and live from that time forward in the power which is the promised gift of God.

Not all will be able to turn from the grip of sin and that is the ultimate danger here. Once you've been turned over, or 'given up' to a reprobate mind it's too late. At the cultural level, once society has deteriorated to the point that homosexuality is embraced as a viable alternative lifestyle, it's too late. So, at an individual level the sin of homosexuality is deadly stuff and he is real trouble, but once it becomes reflected in a society as it has in US law and foreign policy, then that whole country is in peril.

Equal protection has been extended to same sex couples. No one is forced to be homosexual, nor stopped. God granted unto humankind a free will, and desired a love freely given, not coerced. What is reflected in the highest understanding of civil freedom at least somewhat mirrors that aspect of God which granted humankind the right to choose.

[TheRealThing]

⬆⬆ A couple of "angels" hang with Lot. A group of men come by and demand to have a gang rape scenario with these two "strangers." Lot offers his daughters instead. The crowd says, "No way...bring out the two strangers." A short time before, Abram begged God to spare the cities if only 10 righteous people could be located in them. Couldn't be done. There is debauchery throughout this sordid tale. However, it would be less than correct to say S&G were destroyed singularly because of homosexual behavior, given the entire context of the story as related in Genesis.

Well, you certainly are 'less than correct' with this baloney. It's no tale, it did happen. The context is not the entire book of Genesis, it starts at the point that Lot pitched his tent toward Sodom (which was filled with sin and rebellion) instead of where God told him to go, and it ends in fire and brimstone for the inhabitants, to include Lot's wife. And you still completely dodged the question. Why did God destroy Sodom?

Equal protection has been extended to same sex couples. No one is forced to be homosexual, nor stopped. God granted unto humankind a free will, and desired a love freely given, not coerced. What is reflected in the highest understanding of civil freedom at least somewhat mirrors that aspect of God which granted humankind the right to choose.

Same sex couples, like the inhabitants of Sodom, already had the freedom to do as they wished before we extended them carve out rights. and America will be judged for it. The difference bringing measure on the national level is the official acceptance thereof. As I said, our laws reflect that we have accepted homosexuality, we will fall, and not long from now. What is reflected in your post is the highest level of ignorance about the character of God but, you will see soon enough.

[The Urban Sombrero]

Well, you certainly are 'less than correct' with this baloney. It's no tale, it did happen. The context is not the entire book of Genesis, it starts at the point that Lot pitched his tent toward Sodom (which was filled with sin and rebellion) instead of where God told him to go, and it ends in fire and brimstone for the inhabitants, to include Lot's wife. And you still completely dodged the question. Why did God destroy Sodom?





Same sex couples, like the inhabitants of Sodom, already had the freedom to do as they wished before we extended them carve out rights. and America will be judged for it. The difference bringing measure on the national level is the official acceptance thereof. As I said, our laws reflect that we have accepted homosexuality, we will fall, and not long from now. What is reflected in your post is the highest level of ignorance about the character of God but, you will see soon enough.

The character of God perfectly reflected in Christ. I said already my argument is NOT that he changed the clear biblical teaching on homosexuality. However, from lepers to women taken in adultery to unscrupulous tax collectors, he showed the heart of God to broken humanity. Christ looked out upon the world and grieved at its foolishness, stubbornness, rebellion and endured to suffer long in mercy and compassion. We do agree on this: Scripture clearly teaches that this time of grace and mercy and longsuffering patience will come to a close "in the end of days." I would point out that in the Genesis account it appears that the desire of the crowd to forcibly rape two disguised angels symbolizes an entire society, nigh every single person, that has devolved into debauchery, a complete and total marring of the image of God. I do not believe this to be the case in the United States.

[TheRealThing]

The character of God perfectly reflected in Christ.

1) - I said already my argument is NOT that he changed the clear biblical teaching on homosexuality. However, from lepers to women taken in adultery to unscrupulous tax collectors, he showed the heart of God to broken humanity.

2) - Christ looked out upon the world and grieved at its foolishness, stubbornness, rebellion and endured to suffer long in mercy and compassion. We do agree on this: Scripture clearly teaches that this time of grace and mercy and longsuffering patience will come to a close "in the end of days." I would point out that in the Genesis account it appears that the desire of the crowd to forcibly rape two disguised angels symbolizes an entire society, nigh every single person, that has devolved into debauchery, a complete and total marring of the image of God. I do not believe this to be the case in the United States.

1) - Your argument is errant in my opinion. God's heart is with those who bow before Him in repentance for their sin. He did not make the straight man and the gay man. How a man lives is his own choice and the argument that Christians would take away that choice is incredibly inapplicable. God has made it clear that the homosexual person will face eternal punishment for their rebellion. But that crossroad, (privilege of choice) represents free will and is the sole reason for our existence on the eternal plane. Each man or woman whether consciously or unconsciously, all decide to either accept or reject the Lordship of Christ. And again, Scripture proves that from among the things which constitute sin in God's eyes, homosexuality is likely the most grievous. Homosexuality is the most difficult to escape because it hardens the heart more than the other sins you have mentioned. The why of that is because man was created in His image, the sins (see map of flags to that end above) which define homosexuality, are according to God not "natural," and most thoroughly distort that image. Men and women "changed the natural use to that which is against nature." Which phrase BTW was selected by the founders when they referred to "The God of Nature." Notice that they did not say 'a god of nature.' It is not that the homosexual cannot be forgiven, it is rather that sin puts men in bondage and there is no bondage greater than that exacted by the sin of homosexuality.

2) - Again, like in the case of Sodom, there are some righteous people in the US. Though Sodom likely had only Lot, as the hearts of his wife and daughters remained there in Sodom. But here in the US, there are many thousands and hopefully millions of folks who really do know Jesus as Lord and Savior. And it is my prayer that this election cycle, they will rise up to take part of self governance the way they should, voting for candidates who at least purport to adhere to Godly principles. God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah to demonstrate that the peoples of those places had been given up due to the fact that the state of their sin was so advanced, they were no longer able to be reached by the workings of the Holy Spirit. The proclamations of politicians, ever taking their half out of the middle, always reflect the heart of the people and thus the state of the Union, in our case.

Even more important is for people to realize that time has grown very short, IMO. If there are those one would like to reach for the cause of Christ now is the time to get busy. That is the lesson of Sodom. And though we would all hope that the people of this land have a revival, and as a result America is spared for yet a little season in order for those last few souls to be reached; The official record is clear enough however. Our leaders are convinced that globalism is the answer to our problems, and we through our laws and policies and borderless mentality, are moving inexorably in that direction with a speed that in my mind can only be of supernatural origins.

God forgives sin, He also judges it and He is inflexible to both ends.

[The Urban Sombrero]

⬆⬆ Our disagreement is one of degree and not substance. That ⬆ is a good post, in my opinion.

[The Urban Sombrero]

I would suggest that Christ viewed broken humanity as "harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd." But, as with the citizenry of Jerusalem, whom Christ wished to gather to him as a hen its chicks, they would not come, and, truly, their house was left to them desolate.

[TheRealThing]

I would suggest that Christ viewed broken humanity as "harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd." But, as with the citizenry of Jerusalem, whom Christ wished to gather to him as a hen its chicks, they would not come, and, truly, their house was left to them desolate.

And that was in reference to His own people. Politics were central in that day too, as appointees and bureaucrats from Rome ruled the people. We of the gentile world will certainly fare no better than they. Especially in America, where there are so many who realize the peril of facing our Judge without the Blood of Christ to cover our sins, much less in accepting our government's having changed God's laws and redefined God's character by legalizing sin. Votes matter much more than a lot of people think.

And I might add. Christ referred to the orthodoxy as snakes and men with mouths like open sepulchers. He did not accept compromise in such matters, because there is only one means of mitigation, the afore mentioned blood of Christ.