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Post Office/Kentucky Plans on voting in November
#31
At least there is certainly some legitimate intimacy in the Biden household. Melania, God Bless her, is clearly the most miserable human being on the face of the earth. And you continue to rant about mail-in voting. But you have yet to contribute one shred of evidence as to why it will be fraudulent, just your opinion on what will happen. Back it up. Everyone with half a brain knows Trump and DeJoy’s attack on the postal service is to set up a convenient alibi in defeat, because the poll numbers are so bad for him right now. Trump says he won’t accept the results of a primarily mail-in election. So if we have one, and he wins, (and he certainly could, he overcame bad polling numbers last time) that means he won’t accept the victory, right? And you will support that position, right? Yeah, that’s what I thought.
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(08-22-2020, 02:29 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: Did you catch his impromptu performance afterward with his wife? "How you doing? God love ya." He'd just been with her 20 minutes before, but is such superficiality what passes for intimacy in the Biden home? And I mean, the God love ya line was what he used after having asked the wheelchair bound reporter to" stand up," and be recognized.

In all of this what bothers me is the way the leftist media are suddenly all aglow with admiration with addition of Harris to the ticket. Why? Because the Dems just need to get a good president out, so they can get their replacement in. And make no mistake, they will be looking for any plausible ouster, (likely as soon as they think they've got something reasonable concocted) and at the very first opportunity, because waiting in the wings is Harris, a dream come true for leftist extremists. That and the Dems and media's obvious dismissal out-of-hand of the Biden shenanigans in Ukraine; the all mail-in vote, the patently obvious slander against everything Trump, as highlighted by Obama's own ignoble prosecutorial display at the DNC. The spirit of contempt against traditional America is best seen in the actions and the acceptance there of by the establishment left.
It's almost as if he did not recognize his own wife. That's something that a politician says to potential voters. You're right, TRT, Biden has always been a superficial human being.

Democrats tried their best to persuade viewers that Biden has empathy for his fellow Americans. He never showed much empathy for the families of Robert Bork, Clarence Thomas, or Brett Kavenaugh. At least Democrats were able to find an equally phony running mate for Biden. #HeelsUpHarris only had to pass the infamous Biden sniff test. It is too bad nobody caught that interview in a video. 
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(08-22-2020, 09:36 PM)Van Hagar Wrote: At least there is certainly some legitimate intimacy in the Biden household. Melania, God Bless her, is clearly the most miserable human being on the face of the earth. And you continue to rant about mail-in voting. But you have yet to contribute one shred of evidence as to why it will be fraudulent, just your opinion on what will happen. Back it up. Everyone with half a brain knows Trump and DeJoy’s attack on the postal service is to set up a convenient alibi in defeat, because the poll numbers are so bad for him right now. Trump says he won’t accept the results of a primarily mail-in election. So if we have one, and he wins, (and he certainly could, he overcame bad polling numbers last time) that means he won’t accept the victory, right? And you will support that position, right? Yeah, that’s what I thought.



Sure I have, it's just that you won't accept the plain truth. The next fight the Dems have cued is to use ballot drop boxes. Heck, even Venezuela doesn't have ballot drop boxes.

Under US voting law which the left evidently despises, only duly registered US citizens can vote. Dems (shocker) who have fought hammer and tong to disallow voter ID; had already been trying to get around legal voting for decades. The argument now is to let anyone who happens to be in the US, legally or not, to vote. Voting is a privilege and an honor reserved for legal, registered US citizens. The only reason Dems want to argue about it is because they feel they need to cheat to win. End of story. Well, that and the fact that their hatred of conservative values makes them feel justified in playing dirty.

But Nicolás Maduro Moros could mail-in hundreds of ballots if he so desired. And he wouldn't even have to worry about coming to America, mail-in ballots from outside the US are legal now as well. Problem solved. If China and Russia and all the other dictator led rogue nations want to vote, according to you guys, let them have at it. The wolf is at the door and the left is fighting with all they have to throw that door open. Shred of evidence? If you were standing on the Kentucky Natural Bridge and I told you to be careful about getting too close to the edge would I have to prove a 200 foot fall would hurt you? I would ask where common sense has gone but I don't have to.

2 Thessalonians 2:10-12
"10 It will happen with every sort of wicked deception of those who are heading toward destruction because they have refused to love the truth that would allow them to be saved. 11 This is why God will send them an influence that will mislead them so that they will believe the lie. 12 The result will be that everyone will be judged who is not convinced by the truth but is happy with injustice."
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At any rate, all of this is supposedly predicated on the fear that going to the polling place would expose people to the coronavirus. Which I would argue is untrue, it's rather the most plausible way, (they think) given their concern and desperation over President DJT, for Dems to defeat the controls of the polling place. But there are inexpensive methods already used in public life which could be easily put in place to prevent the spread. The least of which would be the simple act of monitoring people's temperature. Forehead thermometers would tell the tale for people wanting to vote at the poll. Social distancing could be easily maintained, not that from what I've seen out in public that people are actually concerned. I know neither the rioters nor those who agree with them are. Barring that, anybody with any concerns have between now and election day to go get an absentee ballot. Legal, easy, established, no argument. But no, like everything else with the Dems it's got to be wide open uncontrolled, unidentified voting. You have to prove who you are to get absentee ballots and again, that's not what Dems are looking to achieve. They want lawlessness.
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#35
Ok everyone do not bite on the topics that others try to start to change the subject. So it is my understanding that the USPO is in the constitution is that correct? If so how does that affect your thoughts on the current subject?
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(08-24-2020, 12:40 AM)mr.fundamental Wrote: Ok everyone do not bite on the topics that others try to start to change the subject. So it is my understanding that the USPO is in the constitution is that correct? If so how does that affect your thoughts on the current subject?
The Constitution authorizes the federal government to set up post offices - it does not mandate that the federal government do so. Your understanding of the U.S. Constitution has no bearing on my support for totally privatizing the USPS and ending its monopoly on home mailboxes and certain types of mail. Trump is right to resist Democrats' efforts to bring chaos to the 2020 election. They want nothing more than to undermine the legitimacy of the results and throw the decision of the presidential election to Congress. There is no legitimate purpose to sending unsolicited ballots to every name listed on voter rolls.
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(08-24-2020, 08:25 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(08-24-2020, 12:40 AM)mr.fundamental Wrote: Ok everyone do not bite on the topics that others try to start to change the subject. So it is my understanding that the USPO is in the constitution is that correct? If so how does that affect your thoughts on the current subject?
The Constitution authorizes the federal government to set up post offices - it does not mandate that the federal government do so. Your understanding of the U.S. Constitution has no bearing on my support for totally privatizing the USPS and ending its monopoly on home mailboxes and certain types of mail. Trump is right to resist Democrats' efforts to bring chaos to the 2020 election. They want nothing more than to undermine the legitimacy of the results and throw the decision of the presidential election to Congress. There is no legitimate purpose to sending unsolicited ballots to every name listed on voter rolls.


Exactly, fixating on the Post Office is a red herring anyway. The idea is to flood the country with as many ballots as possible. Ballots that legally could come from all corners of the earth, and which could never be validated in real time, much less be traced. Nor could anyone voting illegally get in any trouble. To further feather their rat's nest, Dems want to count any and every ballot. Signed or not, filled in legitimately or not.

The credibility, nor the lawful validity, nor the efficiency of the US Postal Service is the issue here. Americans don't mistrust the Post Office, they mistrust the Democrat Party to do things honestly. It isn't the Post Office that's sending out ballots, nor is it the Post Office deciding who all gets the ballots, or how many ballots will be sent out. They just handle mail. It is the Democrat Party's role in all this that gives concern. And talk about the weasel guarding the hen house, the whole idea is absurd.

People go to the store, they go to the Post Office BTW, they go to Lowes, they go to Church, well, they do in red states at least. They stop at the convenience store and get gas and coffee, they eat out, in fact, they go just about anywhere governors will allow. Without any particular concern for getting ill. But voting? OOH! That's like sticking your head in the noose if you ask a Dem; which fact is the whole point.

If Dems do get back in control this fall you can get ready to be told what to do and what to think about everything. And as the Democrat resistance at the federal level and Blue state governors have so openly demonstrated, all that is to be allowable in this land under their control, is liberalism. No America first, no American sovereignty. Dems will take us right back down the same road the founders sacrificed so much to get us off of in the first place. European style socialism dictated by elites who're superior in their own minds.

Biden is busy speaking openly about raising taxes right now. But ObamaCare alone, destroyed most American's hopes of a secure future. And you can bet that program will be reinvigorated. If you haven't experienced the blunt of ObamaCare yet, you will. Here is how things go, if you're on the government dole you get everything free and you get it right now. If you work and pay your own bills, you're health care costs (before you even get to a doctor), are so high many times people are choosing to forego treatment. They just can't afford it. And we haven't even considered all the rest of the taxes Biden will bring with his administration.

But I would be remiss if I did not define the real problem in all of this. Yes, elections in a society which has turned it's back on law can be manipulated. But the real fight here is secular humanism versus Christianity. We can't just pass a law and expect men to behave, (id est, see US rioting) we must enforce the law, full stop. Nor can we just form the ultimate brotherhood, (which is all globalism is really all about) and everybody will suddenly have all they wish for. Reject it or not, God is the Provider for planet earth. Honoring Him to that end brings peace and plenty for any society. But a society which willfully turns it's back on Him, brings upon itself judgment. Not only is further judgment coming, it is here. The Democrat Platform shakes it's fist in the face of the Almighty. This year's DNC did not allow the mention of God. In fact here's how they pledged allegiance---

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, ___ ___ ___, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.".

How could any lucid minded person vote for a party which openly rejects by way of omission, the Creator?
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(08-22-2020, 01:06 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(08-21-2020, 07:14 AM)Van Hagar Wrote:
(08-20-2020, 07:11 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(08-20-2020, 06:07 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(08-20-2020, 11:40 AM)TheRealThing Wrote: ^^ There is no conservative  dog whistle in Hoot's argument.  There is however a mountain of deceit in your own.

You know as does everybody with one ounce of sense that the potential for voter fraud in an all mail-in/mostly mail-in election is stratospheric. Further, the likelihood that sensible voters are buying into the leftist narrative, (leftist in the sense that it is being delivered by leftists and in the sense that it is politically leftist in scope) is less than slim.

But you feel the end justifies the means and therefore are more than willing to do what it takes to do your part to steal the coming election. It will not work, but the more time and dishonest effort you invest to that end, the more satisfying the outcome will be.

Never said he had one.  Mail-in voter fraud is a conservative dog whistle. 

There is speculation and there is actuality.  There are 5 states that use nearly entirely mail in. I gave an example in my post.  Don’t believe it.  Look it up.  

Stealing the election is slowing mail so voters can’t vote, allowing a pandemic to rage so voters are too scared, and enlisting foreign agencies to help spread disinformation.  Left isn’t doing any of that. I’ll give you three guesses. You’ll get it wrong though.

(08-20-2020, 12:52 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: I have challenged you to put up or shut up,. weasel. You insulted me with your lies and you know that you can't back them up. Weakness is insulting people with lies and then doubling down on your lies behind the anonymity of the internet. Back up your lies or shut up, coward.

Put up, or shut up about what?  That you've never said Trump lies.  Ok, You didn't say it.  You knowingly support a liar to the American people.  Feel better?

I like weasels.  They can subdue the poisonous snakes of the world. 

More name calling. Weak sauce.   

(08-20-2020, 03:05 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: I don't really care about the USPS. I have not mailed anything in years. I either communicate and pay bills electronically or I send documents via Fed Ex. I am opposed to any increased funding of the USPS prior to the election. If Democrats want to inundate our post offices with unsolicited ballots in the days around the election, then the chaos that ensues will be on them. I will be disappointed if Trump compromises on this issue but I expect that he will.

I really do not see why Trump's friendship with anybody at the USPS is relevant to this debate. Maybe it would be relevant if Trump were proposing a huge funding increase for the organization but as far as I know, he has not requested any funding increase.

USPS is a government service that millions of Americans depend on, especially in rural America, for business and personal reasons.  Nothing else in the federal govt is expected to make money and support itself, so why do we expect the Postal Service to, oh right, the USPS has a labor pension problems and pensions cause conservatives to lose sleep at night.  That money is going to Americans instead of their special interest coffers.  It all makes sense. 

Mail in voter fraud in Washington state's 2018 election was under .004% (around 150 ballots), and ballots were mailed to citizens.  97% of the vote was by mail.  The SOS in Washington is a Republican.

Another conservative dog whistle counting on Americans to swallow the lie hook, line, and sinker.
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Quote:Thank you for acknowledging and retracting one of your many lies. It's a good start. However, I will repeat, in case you forgot, I have never referred to Trump as a conservative, nor have I ever even implied that to be the case. 

I reluctantly voted for Trump in 2016 and I will vote for him this year as well. I don't understand how anybody could vote for a candidate suffering from dementia with a clear conscience. But I have never believed Trump to be a conservative. He is by far the most conservative candidate who has a chance of winning but I have and will continue to consider him a fiscal liberal.

I’m glad you feel better, but you voted for him and plan to again, so you condone it all. 

Biden doesn’t have dementia,  but cool let’s say he does.
 
You’re picking Trump who would also have dementia and is a sociopathic narcissistic liar that is in search of anything, or anyone, to grease his ego.  

The guy not knowing where he is causes much less damage. 
See 2020.
Trump has shown no signs of dementia and nobody has had to lead him off of a stage. Anybody who has had a relative who suffered from dementia will surely recognize Biden's symptoms. If not now, then his symptoms will become too obvious to ignore before the end of what would be his first term, if he wins the election.

A guy not knowing where he is who has the authority to launch nukes does not do less damage than one still capable of rational thought. That is among the most silly statements that you have made and your collection of silly statements is a sizable one. If they were baseball cards you would be a wealthy man.


  Anyone who saw Biden’s acceptance speech last night and still wants to play the dementia card needs to check on their own mental well-being. Even the great minds at Fox News all gave it great reviews. 
Joe Biden was a dimwit when his IQ was at its all time high, well before dementia started his brain on a downward spiral. The only coursework in which Biden excelled in college was P.E., an area in which he earned "A"s. 

Even with Biden's high marks in P.E. and despite a boost from plagiarism, he still managed an undergraduate GPA of only 1.9. Anybody who is impressed with Joe Biden's cognitive abilities should not be questioning anybody else's mental well being. Big Grin
At least he got in without paying someone to take his admission tests.  

It’s going to hurt when a “dementia” patient destroys your man, Hoot.
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(08-24-2020, 09:15 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(08-22-2020, 01:06 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(08-21-2020, 07:14 AM)Van Hagar Wrote:
(08-20-2020, 07:11 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(08-20-2020, 06:07 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Never said he had one.  Mail-in voter fraud is a conservative dog whistle. 

There is speculation and there is actuality.  There are 5 states that use nearly entirely mail in. I gave an example in my post.  Don’t believe it.  Look it up.  

Stealing the election is slowing mail so voters can’t vote, allowing a pandemic to rage so voters are too scared, and enlisting foreign agencies to help spread disinformation.  Left isn’t doing any of that. I’ll give you three guesses. You’ll get it wrong though.


Put up, or shut up about what?  That you've never said Trump lies.  Ok, You didn't say it.  You knowingly support a liar to the American people.  Feel better?

I like weasels.  They can subdue the poisonous snakes of the world. 

More name calling. Weak sauce.   


USPS is a government service that millions of Americans depend on, especially in rural America, for business and personal reasons.  Nothing else in the federal govt is expected to make money and support itself, so why do we expect the Postal Service to, oh right, the USPS has a labor pension problems and pensions cause conservatives to lose sleep at night.  That money is going to Americans instead of their special interest coffers.  It all makes sense. 

Mail in voter fraud in Washington state's 2018 election was under .004% (around 150 ballots), and ballots were mailed to citizens.  97% of the vote was by mail.  The SOS in Washington is a Republican.

Another conservative dog whistle counting on Americans to swallow the lie hook, line, and sinker.
Quote:I’m glad you feel better, but you voted for him and plan to again, so you condone it all. 

Biden doesn’t have dementia,  but cool let’s say he does.
 
You’re picking Trump who would also have dementia and is a sociopathic narcissistic liar that is in search of anything, or anyone, to grease his ego.  

The guy not knowing where he is causes much less damage. 
See 2020.
Trump has shown no signs of dementia and nobody has had to lead him off of a stage. Anybody who has had a relative who suffered from dementia will surely recognize Biden's symptoms. If not now, then his symptoms will become too obvious to ignore before the end of what would be his first term, if he wins the election.

A guy not knowing where he is who has the authority to launch nukes does not do less damage than one still capable of rational thought. That is among the most silly statements that you have made and your collection of silly statements is a sizable one. If they were baseball cards you would be a wealthy man.


  Anyone who saw Biden’s acceptance speech last night and still wants to play the dementia card needs to check on their own mental well-being. Even the great minds at Fox News all gave it great reviews. 
Joe Biden was a dimwit when his IQ was at its all time high, well before dementia started his brain on a downward spiral. The only coursework in which Biden excelled in college was P.E., an area in which he earned "A"s. 

Even with Biden's high marks in P.E. and despite a boost from plagiarism, he still managed an undergraduate GPA of only 1.9. Anybody who is impressed with Joe Biden's cognitive abilities should not be questioning anybody else's mental well being. Big Grin
Quote:At least he got in without paying someone to take his admission tests.
How would you know? Biden was not even a successful cheater. He got caught and had to retake a class. He has outlived most of the witnesses to how he managed to graduate with a 1.9 GPA and then get admitted to law school.
Quote:It’s going to hurt when a “dementia” patient destroys your man, Hoot.
Maybe one of the debates will focus on P.E.
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"At least he got in without paying someone to take his admission tests.  
It’s going to hurt[/b] when a “dementia” patient destroys your man, Hoot."



Not as bad as you've hurt since November, 2016.  And certainly not as bad as you will hurt come this November. It's hilarious to watch.
Trump is a great President and nobody cares about anything his crazy niece has to say. But you go ahead and bank everything on it anyway.
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TheRealThing Wrote:"At least he got in without paying someone to take his admission tests.  
It’s going to hurt[/b] when a “dementia” patient destroys your man, Hoot."



Not as bad as you've hurt since November, 2016.  And certainly not as bad as you will hurt come this November. It's hilarious to watch. Trump is a great president and nobody cares about anything his crazy niece has to say. But you go ahead and bank everything on it anyway.


  Well there it is.  Your Thom Brennaman moment.  Pretty much renders any posts you've made before, or any you will make going forward, as totally irrelevant.
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(08-25-2020, 07:46 AM)Van Hagar Wrote:
TheRealThing Wrote:"At least he got in without paying someone to take his admission tests.  
It’s going to hurt[/b] when a “dementia” patient destroys your man, Hoot."



Not as bad as you've hurt since November, 2016.  And certainly not as bad as you will hurt come this November. It's hilarious to watch. Trump is a great president and nobody cares about anything his crazy niece has to say. But you go ahead and bank everything on it anyway.


  Well there it is.  Your Thom Brennaman moment.  Pretty much renders any posts you've made before, or any you will make going forward, as totally irrelevant.


Right back at ya. If you want to put make me the focus or your discontent, (that is of course when you're not already occupied with lying or repeating lies about the President) that suits me. If I have been inconsistent or made some error in any of my posts, feel free to point it out. Or you can just boil in your contempt, either way works for me.
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(08-21-2020, 01:09 PM)plantmanky Wrote: If your so worried about your mail in ballot, go drop it off at your board of elections office yourself.  How hard is that, its on your way to walmart and to get your cigs and whiskey.

I agree.  

As you’re dropping your kid off to play ball and pay the salaries for folks.

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