[Old School Hound]

For those of you who believe that the election was stolen, what do you think SHOULD happen from here?

[TheRealThing]

Old School Hound Quote:

"Evangelicals showed their true colors these past two election cycles in their support of the most non-Christian person ever to vie for the Presidency. What color is hypocrisy?  I say orange."
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If one had to name only one moral issue for which the Trump presidency has been noteworthy it would have to be on abortion. Donald Trump's stand against abortion is chief among the Presidents of my lifetime. Now some of that where MR Reagan is concerned is no doubt due to the exponential explosion of abortions since he (Reagan) held office. Nonetheless, Trump's record on abortion is admirable. That one issue alone distinguishes Trump above either Obama or Biden by a lot. Dems generally are sworn advocates for unfettered abortion, even to the point of forced taxpayer funding of the practice. Ever heard of Planned Parenthood?

But I mean, if you want to judge a man and declare Trump the most non-Christian person ever to vie for the Presidency (absurd notion BTW), the least you could get by with would be to use God's Word in order to make such a judgment. Much less make the pronouncement apply to all of Christendom the way you just did. Or are we operating on the Scriptures according to Old School Hound here? If we're using God's Word, no man has the right to judge another man's soul.

Matthew 7:1-3  KJV
7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

Better be careful there Old School.

[Old School Hound]

Rudy and his hair dye might want avoid anymore super spreaders for awhile... He has tested COVID +++++++

[WideRight05]

Rudy and his hair dye might want avoid anymore super spreaders for awhile... He has tested COVID +++++++

What is with the democratic party's obsession with super spreaders? It's not like that's anything new. Kamala Harris has held a super spreader at her house every night the past 30 years.

[Old School Hound]

Rudy and his hair dye might want avoid anymore super spreaders for awhile... He has tested COVID +++++++

What is with the democratic party's obsession with super spreaders? It's not like that's anything new. Kamala Harris has held a super spreader at her house every night the past 30 years.

Yikes ! That's no way to talk about your 47th President( 2024-2032).

[WideRight05]

Rudy and his hair dye might want avoid anymore super spreaders for awhile... He has tested COVID +++++++

What is with the democratic party's obsession with super spreaders? It's not like that's anything new. Kamala Harris has held a super spreader at her house every night the past 30 years.

Yikes ! That's no way to talk about your 47th President( 2024-2032).

If Biden actually gets into office then we'll see her a lot sooner than four years from now.

[Van Hagar]

Those people spout your version of the truth. That does not make it the truth, that makes it what you believe , or in other words an opinion, exactly what those that oppose you have. I believe you would do well to reread your Thessalonians scripture and ask yourself  “Wait, am I the one that is being deluded?” Have you ever bothered to explore that possibility?

Somehow I just find that I hold the opinions of those people in higher esteem than the contemptuous prattle of your favor.

But you talk like one of 'those people' that think men will find out which way they're going after they pass from this life. That is not the way I see it, the saved know before they die. And no, I don't need to explore that possibility. No one that is saved has to.

2 Peter 1:10  KJV
10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure:

In any case, I trust my own eyes for accuracy both for historical and current events. And my own interpretation of what constitutes truth. I do find it hilarious that you're invoking God's name to bless those you agree with out of one side of your mouth, and declaring for yourself AND others that you despise Trump out the other.

I find it equally hilarious that you would invoke the judge not, lest you be judged scripture, when that’s ALL THAT YOU DO on here. And again, let me point out on abortion that until about ten years ago Trump was pro choice, then changed his tune because he saw it as his best path politically. You know as well as I do, he wouldn’t care if all of America had abortion parties in their homes every weekend as long as it helped him out politically.

[Old School Hound]

Old School Hound Quote:

"Evangelicals showed their true colors these past two election cycles in their support of the most non-Christian person ever to vie for the Presidency. What color is hypocrisy?  I say orange."
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If one had to name only one moral issue for which the Trump presidency has been noteworthy it would have to be on abortion. Donald Trump's stand against abortion is chief among the Presidents of my lifetime. Now some of that where MR Reagan is concerned is no doubt due to the exponential explosion of abortions since he (Reagan) held office. Nonetheless, Trump's record on abortion is admirable. That one issue alone distinguishes Trump above either Obama or Biden by a lot. Dems generally are sworn advocates for unfettered abortion, even to the point of forced taxpayer funding of the practice. Ever heard of Planned Parenthood?

But I mean, if you want to judge a man and declare Trump the most non-Christian person ever to vie for the Presidency (absurd notion BTW), the least you could get by with would be to use God's Word in order to make such a judgment. Much less make the pronouncement apply to all of Christendom the way you just did. Or are we operating on the Scriptures according to Old School Hound here? If we're using God's Word, no man has the right to judge another man's soul.

Matthew 7:1-3  KJV
7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

Better be careful there Old School.


Evangelicals are among the biggest hypocrites in society.  Franklin Graham and Falwell Jr. are jokes. Right there with the prosperity  preachers. Trump couldn't quote a single scripture if his life depended on it.  Abortion is not something that Trump is the least bit concerned about. It's just something he uses to stoke his cult.  PP- yes, I've heard of it. I'm a big supporter of women's rights to safe, affordable healthcare.  On a side note, religion has been the single greatest reason for world strife and killing than anything else. Spirituality is one thing ; man's organized religion is something else altogether. I've read how Jesus described a true Christian. The orange menace doesn't quite fit that description. Hard to wrap the mind around how evangelicals could support a man that is the antithesis of what they supposedly stand for.  Mitt Romney, by all accounts a man of faith, couldn't do it.  

[Van Hagar]

Pence, by all accounts another man of faith, swallowed hard and did it for a while Old School Hound. I will always, always believe he thought Trump had no chance of winning in 2016, that he signed on to just raise his national profile for possible future runs. I’m sure the last four years have been torturous for him. Do you notice how he has totally distanced himself from what Trump is throwing out there now? If he really believed it, he would be screaming bloody murder right alongside him. But instead he has mostly disappeared from the national view, and when he does get a question about it, he just gives a generic response. The Trumpers on here refuse to address that because they know it’s true.

Now, TRT is gonna give you some hell over your Planned Parenthood response, but I agree with you 100%. I have no right as a man to tell some woman I don’t even know what she can or can’t do with her body. Sure, I wish abortions didn’t happen, but as a moral issue it should just be between those involved. I find most to be so hypocritical on this issue anyway. I guarantee you, 75% of them, if their 14 or 15 year-old daughter came home pregnant, would ‘temporarily’ forgo their standards.

[Old School Hound]

Pence, by all accounts another man of faith, swallowed hard and did it for a while Old School Hound. I will always, always believe he thought Trump had no chance of winning in 2016, that he signed on to just raise his national profile for possible future runs.  I’m sure the last four years have been torturous for him. Do you notice how he has totally distanced himself from what Trump is throwing out there now? If he really believed it, he would be screaming bloody murder right alongside him. But instead he has mostly disappeared from the national view, and when he does get a question about it, he just gives a generic response.  The Trumpers on here refuse to address that because they know it’s true.

  Now, TRT is gonna give you some hell over your Planned Parenthood response, but I agree with you 100%. I have no right as a man to tell some woman I don’t even know what she can or can’t do with her body. Sure, I wish abortions didn’t happen, but as a moral issue it should just be between those involved.  I find most to be so hypocritical on this issue anyway. I guarantee you, 75% of them, if their 14 or 15 year-old daughter came home pregnant, would ‘temporarily’ forgo their standards.

Couldn't agree with you more, on all accounts. Those on the right like to say that Progressive-minded people are abortion lovers. In more than five decades of life, I have yet to meet a Progressive who loves abortion. Just as you stated so well,  I just believe that is a decision for a woman, in consultation with her family and doctors. It's not a decision for a bunch of old white men in Congress or men in black robes. I value life for all people, young and old. Like most all progressives, I am not a fan of abortion. But I have to believe(as four out of five Americans do) that it has to remain a woman's choice.   Again, as you stated, Trump would host pro-abortion rallies and parties if he thought it would benefit him politically.  He has no core values when it comes to abortion or anything else. He just tells his followers what they want to hear. He even mocks his supporters in private, according to sources close to him.

Now... once again, for those who believe the election was stolen, what should happen next?

[WideRight05]

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[Hoot Gibson]

Pence, by all accounts another man of faith, swallowed hard and did it for a while Old School Hound. I will always, always believe he thought Trump had no chance of winning in 2016, that he signed on to just raise his national profile for possible future runs.  I’m sure the last four years have been torturous for him. Do you notice how he has totally distanced himself from what Trump is throwing out there now? If he really believed it, he would be screaming bloody murder right alongside him. But instead he has mostly disappeared from the national view, and when he does get a question about it, he just gives a generic response.  The Trumpers on here refuse to address that because they know it’s true.

  Now, TRT is gonna give you some hell over your Planned Parenthood response, but I agree with you 100%. I have no right as a man to tell some woman I don’t even know what she can or can’t do with her body. Sure, I wish abortions didn’t happen, but as a moral issue it should just be between those involved.  I find most to be so hypocritical on this issue anyway. I guarantee you, 75% of them, if their 14 or 15 year-old daughter came home pregnant, would ‘temporarily’ forgo their standards.

Couldn't agree with you more, on all accounts. Those on the right like to say that Progressive-minded people are abortion lovers. In more than five decades of life, I have yet to meet a Progressive who loves abortion. Just as you stated so well,  I just believe that is a decision for a woman, in consultation with her family and doctors. It's not a decision for a bunch of old white men in Congress or men in black robes. I value life for all people, young and old. Like most all progressives, I am not a fan of abortion. But I have to believe(as four out of five Americans do) that it has to remain a woman's choice.   Again, as you stated, Trump would host pro-abortion rallies and parties if he thought it would benefit him politically.  He has no core values when it comes to abortion or anything else.  He just tells his followers what they want to hear. He even mocks  his supporters  in private, according to sources close to him.

Now... once again, for those who believe the election was stolen, what should happen next?

Ideally, the following would happen:

1. The state legislatures of Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada, and Arizona would meet and review the evidence of election fraud that has been presented. For each state where it is determined that the number of illegal votes cast for Biden exceeds the margin of victory claimed by the Biden campaign, the state legislatures would name Trump electors and send them to Washington to elect Donald Trump as president.

2. In each case where discarding illegal ballots changes the winner of House of Representatives, U.S. Senate, or any other election, the rightful winner would be declared the official winner. The process of correcting the initial results of the election would vary by specific election.

3. In every instance where voting machines made by Dominion Voting Systems was used and in every instance where Smartmatic voting machines or software, or voting machines or software based on Dominion or Smartmatic designs was used, the Supreme Court would order statewide election results be audited.

4. The Supreme Court would order that states in which audit results prove widespread election fraud occurred using unsecure voting machines, tabulators, and/or software, stop using such systems immediately.

5. The Department of Justice would name a special prosecutor to criminally prosecute every person who knowingly participated in election fraud in the 2020 election. Those who are determined to are determined to have conspired to rig the elections in multiple states would be charged with treason and punished to the maximum extent allowed by law.

6. If foreign countries are found to have participated in election fraud in our election, severe economic sanctions would be imposed on them.

7. All foreign nationals from countries found guilty of interfering in our election would be deported immediately, including students studying at American universities.

In the event that some or all of the state legislatures do not meet in time to consider the evidence, then the Supreme Court should hear the evidence and take similar actions.

If allegations of widespread, organized fraud are substantiated to install candidates who did not receive a plurality of votes, or in the case of the presidential election, did not win sufficient states to win the Electoral College election, what do you believe would be the appropriate remedy? You seem inclined to simply assume that there is nothing to the allegations and assume that the candidates you supported are victims of fraudulent claims. Do you believe that hundreds of people who have signed sworn affidavits have committed perjury and that the video and statistical evidence has been faked?

[vector#1]

so in other words an old fashion coup
Your Dear Leader got to go

[TheRealThing]

Those people spout your version of the truth. That does not make it the truth, that makes it what you believe , or in other words an opinion, exactly what those that oppose you have. I believe you would do well to reread your Thessalonians scripture and ask yourself  “Wait, am I the one that is being deluded?” Have you ever bothered to explore that possibility?

Somehow I just find that I hold the opinions of those people in higher esteem than the contemptuous prattle of your favor.

But you talk like one of 'those people' that think men will find out which way they're going after they pass from this life. That is not the way I see it, the saved know before they die. And no, I don't need to explore that possibility. No one that is saved has to.

2 Peter 1:10  KJV
10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure:

In any case, I trust my own eyes for accuracy both for historical and current events. And my own interpretation of what constitutes truth.  I do find it hilarious that you're invoking God's name to bless those you agree with out of one side of your mouth, and declaring for yourself AND others that you despise Trump out the other.

  I find it equally hilarious that you would invoke the judge not, lest you be judged scripture, when that’s ALL THAT YOU DO on here.  And again, let me point out on abortion that until about ten years ago Trump was pro choice, then changed his tune because he saw it as his best path politically. You know as well as I do, he wouldn’t care if all of America had abortion parties in their homes every weekend as long as it helped him out politically.

Frankly I don't know that and neither do you. But fortunately the good news is people can and do out of conviction, change their view on many things including moral issues. And I can assure you the Lord doesn't despise DJT. I mean, Who's the Judge here, us or God?

I talk about policy, I point out the facts of politician's attempts to govern as they relate to those policies. I haven't judged anybody personally, but I will say this. Christians do not go along with abortion, or the homosexual lifestyle. Nor should they promote socialism. Those who do so are easily identified and it is my charter as a follower of Christ to point such things out.

Sin is sin there Van. If you've got a problem with that then your argument is with the Lord. I'm just the flawed but saved messenger.

[TheRealThing]

Pence, by all accounts another man of faith, swallowed hard and did it for a while Old School Hound. I will always, always believe he thought Trump had no chance of winning in 2016, that he signed on to just raise his national profile for possible future runs.  I’m sure the last four years have been torturous for him. Do you notice how he has totally distanced himself from what Trump is throwing out there now? If he really believed it, he would be screaming bloody murder right alongside him. But instead he has mostly disappeared from the national view, and when he does get a question about it, he just gives a generic response.  The Trumpers on here refuse to address that because they know it’s true.

  Now, TRT is gonna give you some hell over your Planned Parenthood response, but I agree with you 100%. I have no right as a man to tell some woman I don’t even know what she can or can’t do with her body. Sure, I wish abortions didn’t happen, but as a moral issue it should just be between those involved.  I find most to be so hypocritical on this issue anyway. I guarantee you, 75% of them, if their 14 or 15 year-old daughter came home pregnant, would ‘temporarily’ forgo their standards.

Well you've got just about everything else wrong you might as well be wrong about Pence too, right?

What I said was that Planned Parenthood provides abortions. And the taxpayer who're supposedly represented by government officials sworn to do their bidding, should not be forced to pay for abortions. Planned Parenthood gets funding from the federal government. Nor are they big on honesty where it comes to these girl's later dealings, with regard to the guilt that post abortion realities will undoubtedly bring. Which BTW causes great psychological damage for all involved. Suicides among teens to early 20's, are the 2nd leading cause of death for that age group. Maybe if the US educational system did less to push sex education starting in grade school, and more to promote abstinence among the 14 or 15 year old girls of your mention, they wouldn't get pregnant in the first place.

Men have never tried to tell women what to do with their bodies, as you put it. That is the rationale the left have used to take up their fight to promote sex without consequence. But it is less than weak from the moral/parental standpoint. At any rate here again, what the left could never have gotten through the legislatures of this land, they used the court system to effectively end-run around those legislatures and the will of the people. And besides bringing about the Lord's own judgment, there are the obvious social problems we all have to deal with. In the past fathers were expected to raise their own children. In our day a very unhealthy ratio of fathers just skip out (repeatedly) with no consequence, leaving their own just burden to be shouldered instead by already strapped taxpayers. That is when the child isn't aborted and thrown into the trash.

The left's argument would be that conservatives are hard hearted and don't want to help the helpless. The hard hearted in fact, are the fathers who cavalier about creating social devastation by producing uncared for offspring. A proper introduction to the Lord would alleviate the whole unsavory mess.

I recognize the fact that the culture war on many fronts has already been lost in the court, but that doesn't make it any more the right. In other words men ought not make law which contradicts God's Word about moral issues. Issues like abortion and homosexuality are clearly dealt with and condemned in Scripture. These issues have never been up for debate. But just as Satan came along at the beginning and rationalized with Eve to eat of the forbidden fruit, so has he been actively engaged in framing the moral debate among men across time. When God says He is the Judge, we should be assured that the crooked will in fact be made straight ultimately, no matter what ill advised law man may write.

Thus our government, our court system and the elective process, are true reflections of our own failings. The problem has never been between Democrats and Republicans, it is rather the point where the conflict between good and evil manifests itself in the public square.

[TheRealThing]

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Evangelicals are among the biggest hypocrites in society.  Franklin Graham and Falwell Jr. are jokes. Right there with the prosperity  preachers. Trump couldn't quote a single scripture if his life depended on it.  Abortion is not something that Trump is the least bit concerned about. It's just something he uses to stoke his cult.  PP- yes, I've heard of it. I'm a big supporter of women's rights to safe, affordable healthcare.  On a side note, religion has been the single greatest reason for world strife and killing than anything else. Spirituality is one thing ; man's organized religion is something else altogether. I've read how Jesus described a true Christian. The orange menace doesn't quite fit that description. Hard to wrap the mind around how evangelicals could support a man that is the antithesis of what they supposedly stand for.  Mitt Romney, by all accounts a man of faith, couldn't do it.  

You're talking about the Lord's people here. It's best to let the Lord's own words on such matters speak for themselves.
Isaiah 60:14
"The sons of those who afflicted you will come bowing to you, And all those who despised you will bow themselves at the soles of your feet; And they will call you the city of the LORD, The Zion of the Holy One of Israel

[Van Hagar]

Right about Pence (why isn’t he out supporting the president, by the way, you boys won’t touch that one). Right about Trump ignoring the American people (the absolute worst of the COVID crisis, and he won’t even mention it, much less lay out some type of policy). You guys won’t mention that either. Just because you want to continue Republican rule, you are willing to sell your souls to the Trump scorched earth shenanigans. And, no, Hoot, I don’t believe those folks are credible at all. They are just knuckleheads like you two who would do or say anything to keep Trump in office. You all so casually believe it from the other side, but you won’t even consider it from your side. Anyway, elections over, Trump lost by nearly 7 million votes, his little time in the spotlight is over. I hope you enjoyed him, because he may have been the last Republican president you see in your lifetimes. The times are changing, and old rich white guys (Biden will be the last one) just aren’t going to cut it any longer. But unless the Republican Party can embrace that, lean times ahead for them.

[TheRealThing]

Right about Pence (why isn’t he out supporting the president, by the way, you boys won’t touch that one). Right about Trump ignoring the American people (the absolute worst of the COVID crisis, and he won’t even mention it, much less lay out some type of policy). You guys won’t mention that either. Just because you want to continue Republican rule, you are willing to sell your souls to the Trump scorched earth shenanigans. And, no, Hoot, I don’t believe those folks are credible at all. They are just knuckleheads like you two who would do or say anything to keep Trump in office.  You all so casually believe it from the other side, but you won’t even consider it from your side. Anyway, elections over, Trump lost by nearly 7 million votes, his little time in the spotlight is over. I hope you enjoyed him, because he may have been the last Republican president you see in your lifetimes. The times are changing, and old rich white guys (Biden will be the last one) just aren’t going to cut it any longer. But unless the Republican Party can embrace that, lean times ahead for them.

Well you managed to get at least one thing right in your post. The times are changing. And incredibly though you seem to have proclaimed yourself insightful to the point of near omniscience with regard to the times, you seem to have missed a rather significant condition. Those old rich white guys of your mention? (by the way I couldn't help but notice your attempt at damage control regarding Biden) Those old rich white guys still run the Chamber of Commerce and the Business Round Table etc., and as such are the string pullers of the very people you think to be the rescuers of "the times." LOL

[The Outsider]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sidney-...a-michigan

Two more lawsuits thrown out.  The whole Country is in on the conspiracy.

[vector#1]

289,000 Americans Dead from the Trump Flu
What is the Dear Leader doing ?
Giving a washed up wrestler a medal and revealing a tennis pavilion(wonder how many of his followers know what that is)
Bring in the moving vans
He's FIRED

[Old School Hound]

289,000 Americans Dead from the Trump Flu
What is the Dear Leader doing ?
Giving a washed up wrestler a medal and revealing a tennis pavilion(wonder how many of his followers know what that is)
Bring in the moving vans
He's FIRED

Every time you mention "Dear Leader" I think back to that meeting at the White House where all of Trump's sycophants  positioned around the table  took turns lavishing him with praise in much the way the North Koreans do their Dear Leader. It was one of the creepiest things I have ever seen. It really upset my spirit and really foreshadowed what would take place the rest of his term. Very, very North Korea-like.  Did you find that unsettling as well?

[vector#1]

It looks like Georgia Democrats may have skipped the part of the election fraud manual that explains disabling security cameras before you attempt to steal an election. 

One America News Network (OANN), also known as One America News (OAN), is a far-right,[14] pro-Donald Trump[22] cable channel founded by Robert Herring Sr. and owned by Herring Networks, Inc., launched on July 4, 2013.[27] The network is headquartered in San Diego, California, and operates news bureaus in Washington, D.C., and New York City.
Its prime time political talk shows have a conservative perspective, and the channel has described itself as one of the "greatest supporters" of Trump.[28] Trump himself has promoted both the network and some of its hosts.[4][29][30][31]
The channel is prominent for promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories.[40] On November 24, 2020, YouTube suspended and demonetized OANN's channel for one week as a first strike under its three-strike community guideline violation policy, for falsely claiming a COVID-19 cure.[41]

Just more Lies and Bullsh!t
275,000 dead from the Trump Flu He's got to go pull up the moving vans

That's it, dumbass, don't trust your own eyes and ears. Trust Wikipedia. It has to be right because anybody can add information to their articles.   

You have to believe that hundreds of witnesses who have testified about the felonies that they saw during the 2020 election are willing to lie and go to prison to testify for Trump to think that the election was not rigged. This video was most likely provided in response to a subpoena from either one of Trump's attorneys or L. Lin Wood. 

Wood has subpoenaed all of the security footage taken while votes were counted in Georgia. They will probably be able to track those suitcases full of ballots shown in the video from the loading dock to the vote tabulators. Democrats got sloppy with their election fraud and they got caught in multiple states. 

Joe Biden will never be the legitimate President of the United States. Even 30 percent of Democrats believe that he stole the election.

289,000 Americans Dead from the Trump Flu
What is the Dear Leader doing ?
Giving a washed up wrestler a medal and revealing a tennis pavilion(wonder how many of his followers know what that is)
Bring in the moving vans
He's FIRED

Every time you mention "Dear Leader" I think back to that meeting at the White House where all of Trump's sycophants  positioned around the table  took turns lavishing him with praise in much the way the North Koreans do their Dear Leader. It was one of the creepiest things I have ever seen. It really upset my spirit and really foreshadowed what would take place the rest of his term. Very, very North Korea-like.  Did you find that unsettling as well?

It's scary how his follower's are so committed to there Dear Leader it remind me a little of Jim Jones and his follower's
I believe if he started to pass the Kool Aid out a lot of them would drink it if he told them to
Hooter and TRT would be one the first ones to drink it how would i know that ?
They would be at the bottom of the pile.
"I could shoot someone in the middle of fifth avenue and would not lose none of my follower's"

[Van Hagar]

Right about Pence (why isn’t he out supporting the president, by the way, you boys won’t touch that one). Right about Trump ignoring the American people (the absolute worst of the COVID crisis, and he won’t even mention it, much less lay out some type of policy). You guys won’t mention that either. Just because you want to continue Republican rule, you are willing to sell your souls to the Trump scorched earth shenanigans. And, no, Hoot, I don’t believe those folks are credible at all. They are just knuckleheads like you two who would do or say anything to keep Trump in office.  You all so casually believe it from the other side, but you won’t even consider it from your side. Anyway, elections over, Trump lost by nearly 7 million votes, his little time in the spotlight is over. I hope you enjoyed him, because he may have been the last Republican president you see in your lifetimes. The times are changing, and old rich white guys (Biden will be the last one) just aren’t going to cut it any longer. But unless the Republican Party can embrace that, lean times ahead for them.

Well you managed to get at least one thing right in your post. The times are changing. And incredibly though you seem to have proclaimed yourself insightful to the point of near omniscience with regard to the times, you seem to have missed a rather significant condition. Those old rich white guys of your mention? (by the way I couldn't help but notice your attempt at damage control regarding Biden) Those old rich white guys still run the Chamber of Commerce and the Business Round Table etc., and as such are the string pullers of the very people you think to be the rescuers of "the times." LOL

I’ve tried and tried to get you guys to explain to me Pence’s lack of support for Trump, or Trump’s lack of concern over the COVID crisis, but all you can do is focus on a lost election. Pathetic.

[Hoot Gibson]

Right about Pence (why isn’t he out supporting the president, by the way, you boys won’t touch that one). Right about Trump ignoring the American people (the absolute worst of the COVID crisis, and he won’t even mention it, much less lay out some type of policy). You guys won’t mention that either. Just because you want to continue Republican rule, you are willing to sell your souls to the Trump scorched earth shenanigans. And, no, Hoot, I don’t believe those folks are credible at all. They are just knuckleheads like you two who would do or say anything to keep Trump in office.  You all so casually believe it from the other side, but you won’t even consider it from your side. Anyway, elections over, Trump lost by nearly 7 million votes, his little time in the spotlight is over. I hope you enjoyed him, because he may have been the last Republican president you see in your lifetimes. The times are changing, and old rich white guys (Biden will be the last one) just aren’t going to cut it any longer. But unless the Republican Party can embrace that, lean times ahead for them.

Well you managed to get at least one thing right in your post. The times are changing. And incredibly though you seem to have proclaimed yourself insightful to the point of near omniscience with regard to the times, you seem to have missed a rather significant condition. Those old rich white guys of your mention? (by the way I couldn't help but notice your attempt at damage control regarding Biden) Those old rich white guys still run the Chamber of Commerce and the Business Round Table etc., and as such are the string pullers of the very people you think to be the rescuers of "the times." LOL

  I’ve tried and tried to get you guys to explain to me Pence’s lack of support for Trump, or Trump’s lack of concern over the COVID crisis, but all you can do is focus on a lost election. Pathetic.

Read the thread title. If you don't like the topic, start your own thread. Loser.

[Van Hagar]

That’s what I thought. You couldn’t answer it there anyway, you are incapable. And by the way, the only losers right now are Trump and his minions. So go take a quick look in the mirror, Hootie, there’s a big L emblazoned into your forehead right now.

[Hoot Gibson]

That’s what I thought. You couldn’t answer it there anyway, you are incapable. And by the way, the only losers right now are Trump and his minions. So go take a quick look in the mirror, Hootie, there’s a big L emblazoned into your forehead right now.

  Pathetic.

[TheRealThing]

That’s what I thought. You couldn’t answer it there anyway, you are incapable. And by the way, the only losers right now are Trump and his minions. So go take a quick look in the mirror, Hootie, there’s a big L emblazoned into your forehead right now.

Pence has not abandoned the President. Never in my lifetime have I ever heard a VP more statesmanlike than Mike Pence has been in his support of President Trump. In a word, unwavering. There is nothing evidentiary out there by which you could justify saying Pence is distancing himself from the President. Fake views.

The outcome of this election is now in the purview of the courts. Agents seized 20 Dominion voting machines in Antrim County, MI., where it has been proven that 6,000 votes were switched from Trump to Biden. Originally awarding Antrim County to Biden in fraudulent fashion. Dominion voting machines changing votes from Trump to Biden is a common theme this election. Pence could speak about that, he could speak about a lot of things but this election is being litigated. Frankly it would likely be out of line for MR Pence to get out in front of any of this. But I must have missed the part when George W.'s VP had anything to say about that contested election. Must be a Republican thing I guess?

It's an epic leap to say Pence has any lack of support for MR Trump.

[The Outsider]

That’s what I thought. You couldn’t answer it there anyway, you are incapable. And by the way, the only losers right now are Trump and his minions. So go take a quick look in the mirror, Hootie, there’s a big L emblazoned into your forehead right now.

Pence has not abandoned the President. Never in my lifetime have I ever heard a VP more statesmanlike than Mike Pence has been in his support of President Trump. In a word, unwavering. There is nothing evidentiary out there by which you could justify saying Pence is distancing himself from the President. Fake views.

The outcome of this election is now in the purview of the courts. Agents seized 20 Dominion voting machines in Antrim County, MI., where it has been proven that 6,000 votes were switched from Trump to Biden. Originally awarding Antrim County to Biden in fraudulent fashion. Dominion voting machines changing votes from Trump to Biden is a common theme this election. Pence could speak about that, he could speak about a lot of things but this election is being litigated. Frankly it would likely be out of line for MR Pence to get out in front of any of this. But I must have missed the part when George W.'s VP had anything to say about that contested election. Must be a Republican thing I guess?

It's an epic leap to say Pence has any lack of support for MR Trump.

I, along with the court system, must have somehow missed this proof.  It has been proven though that if something is repeated often enough that people who want to believe it, will think that it is indeed factual.

Meanwhile while the pandemic rages on, the President has nothing better to do than golf and tweet.  Unbelievable.

[TheRealThing]

That’s what I thought. You couldn’t answer it there anyway, you are incapable. And by the way, the only losers right now are Trump and his minions. So go take a quick look in the mirror, Hootie, there’s a big L emblazoned into your forehead right now.

Pence has not abandoned the President. Never in my lifetime have I ever heard a VP more statesmanlike than Mike Pence has been in his support of President Trump. In a word, unwavering. There is nothing evidentiary out there by which you could justify saying Pence is distancing himself from the President. Fake views.

The outcome of this election is now in the purview of the courts. Agents seized 20 Dominion voting machines in Antrim County, MI., where it has been proven that 6,000 votes were switched from Trump to Biden. Originally awarding Antrim County to Biden in fraudulent fashion. Dominion voting machines changing votes from Trump to Biden is a common theme this election. Pence could speak about that, he could speak about a lot of things but this election is being litigated. Frankly it would likely be out of line for MR Pence to get out in front of any of this. But I must have missed the part when George W.'s VP had anything to say about that contested election. Must be a Republican thing I guess?

It's an epic leap to say Pence has any lack of support for MR Trump.

I, along with the court system, must have somehow missed this proof.  It has been proven though that if something is repeated often enough that people who want to believe it, will think that it is indeed factual.

Meanwhile while the pandemic rages on, the President has nothing better to do than golf and tweet.  Unbelievable.

You've missed quite a lot actually. The courts won't hear the evidence, they're not missing it.

And speaking of missing things you must have also missed the various world renowned Epidemiologist's reports on theraputics which greatly mitigate the symptoms of the coronavirus. Namely HydroxyChloroQuine+Az+Zinc which has been summarily dismissed on political grounds by people who feel like you do about MR Trump. Quite a club of intellectuals you got there.

[Hoot Gibson]

This is a very interesting lawsuit that will probably not be heard by the U.S. Supreme Court. I like the logic. When other states rig their elections to rob the rightful winner of elective office, the citizens of states whose will was legally expressed through their electors are damaged. If the majority of the Supreme Court believes that Democrats engaged in widespread election fraud that resulted in Joe Biden winning elections in Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, then this Texas lawsuit gives them the opportunity to hear one case instead of dealing with the election piecemeal.

AG Pax­ton Sues Bat­tle­ground States for Uncon­sti­tu­tion­al Changes to 2020 Elec­tion Laws

“Trust in the integrity of our election processes is sacrosanct and binds our citizenry and the States in this Union together. Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin destroyed that trust and compromised the security and integrity of the 2020 election. The states violated statutes enacted by their duly elected legislatures, thereby violating the Constitution. By ignoring both state and federal law, these states have not only tainted the integrity of their own citizens’ vote, but of Texas and every other state that held lawful elections,” said Attorney General Paxton. “Their failure to abide by the rule of law casts a dark shadow of doubt over the outcome of the entire election. We now ask that the Supreme Court step in to correct this egregious error.”