[Hoot Gibson]

Isn't it ironic that the people you see being the most vociferous protestors of the election results and charging fraud are the same people who did everything possibly to steal the election by trying to suppress the voting rights of people, mostly people of color, all across the country.  I want EVERYONE to be able to vote, even those who don't have the same political slant as I do. I don't want anyone's vote to be suppressed. That's the thing about Trump's GOP. They want to make it harder(or impossible) for some people to vote. That's just not right, people. Again, these advocates for voter suppression are now the ones claiming fraud and harassing and threatening  Secretaries of State and their families with violence.  They need to just go home, make some cookies, and put on some Perry Como records and quit super spreading their misinformation and their viral infections. Joe Biden won this election fairly, squarely, and  robustly.  Biden and democracy prevailed this time ;  Trump and the Russians prevailed in 2016.  Time to move on and let  Mr. Biden and Ms Harris bring some order and normalcy back into our lives and our politics. I guarantee you that, privately, most Congressional lawmakers(D's and R's) are saying they can't wait to have Trump the hell out of Washington.

Every change to our election process over the past couple of decades has been aimed at making it easier to commit voter fraud. The 2020 election is the direct result of those efforts.

How many times should a single person vote? Are you okay with illegal aliens voting? Should residents of one state be allowed to vote in multiple states? What about the dead? How many years should the deceased be kept on the voter rolls?

I really don't believe that any person of average intelligence believes that a lackluster candidate like Joe Biden received more votes than any presidential candidate in the history of this country. I refuse to believe that a large number of Americans are that stupid.

Hoot, I think you are underestimating just how unpopular Trump is with 51+% of the country. I don't think it was so much that they were in love with Mr. Biden as they just couldn't stand Mr. Trump. I watched literally hundreds of videos of lifelong Republicans saying that they would stop at nothing to vote him out of office. Most of these people had never voted for a Democrat in their lives. Heck, I bet several folks  even came back from the dead just to vote him out. LOL

And , to answer your questions,  I am not okay with any of those things you mentioned. I am for every voter that is eligible to vote being able to do so freely and without being unduly burdened. Anyone committing voter fraud on either side should go to jail.



 

I disagree but appreciate your civil tone. Historically, people turnout in greater numbers to vote in support of a candidate than to oppose a candidate. Here in very blue Fairfax County, there was no line when my family and I voted in the 2020 election. I commented to my wife and daughter that a light turnout in Fairfax County was a good sign. I don't know how heavy the turnout was in the rest of the county, but even here, the disparity in the number of Trump yard signs and bumper stickers compared to those of Biden was very noticeable.

Consider this fact:

Of the nineteen counties that have consistently voted for the presidential winner since 1980, only one of them, Washington state’s Clallam County, supported former Vice President Joe Biden, according to analysis from the Wall Street Journal.

Before the 2016 election, I was more critical of Donald Trump than anybody else who has participated in this forum since that election. If you doubt my claim, then I invite you to read through the thread that I started titled "The Case Against Donald Trump." My position was based on the fact that Trump had no record and I never pay much attention to campaign promises because most politicians have no intention of keeping most of them. I supported Ted Cruz and Trump ran a very nasty primary campaign. Cruz had a record of keeping campaign promises and for me, it was an easy choice.

I have continued to be critical of what I would call Trump's style, especially his heavy use of Twitter. However, considering the virtual blackout of positive Trump news preceding the election and continuing through today, I have to admit that maybe his decision to rely on Twitter was the right one.

I have become a strong Trump supporter based on his accomplishments, not because I find him likable. His foreign policy success rivals Ronald Reagan's actions that hastened the fall of the Soviet Union. His Middle East policy has been the most successful of any U.S. president but Joe Biden and the Democrats are promising to undermine it by renewing the disastrous Obama deal with Iran. 

Trump's strategy of isolating Iran by forging business and diplomatic ties between Israel and its Arab neighbors is working very well. Every president before Trump since Jimmy Carter has tried to deal with the Palestinians and pressured Israel into making concessions for the sake of a signed agreement. Trump took a win-win approach instead because he understands that commercial ties reduce tensions among trading partners.

Trump has his flaws but far fewer Americans actually hate him than the mainstream media wants you to believe. It really is not that hard to understand why Trump has earned a very loyal following. He has tried to keep his 2016 campaign promises and has, in fact, far exceeded the low expectations that many of us had when he took office.