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(01-03-2021, 03:08 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Wait...wait...wait.  What a silly attempt at distraction.  One could say if you’re side wasn’t worried about caging children and spending billions building a few miles of wall, 350k Americans wouldn’t have died of Covid.  It’s a weak fallacy. 

Trump has been at war with Silicon Valley his entire term. BUT he wasn’t worried about national security.  His concern was his and supporter’s ability to spread disinformation. 

The last I checked Silicon Valley didn’t take an oath to protect the nation.


You don't check anything, your opinion comes to you from Rachel Maddow and Don Lemon. Obama built the cages. The wall will spare hundreds of thousands of lives that would have otherwise been lost to drug addiction, and then there is the sovereignty issue that every country with a glimmer understands. COVID came from China, and that includes Mexico and the Yucatan Peninsula. Blaming Trump for COVID deaths is asinine. 

Silicon Valley rather than aligning itself primarily with interests of the US, chose to bring along the cybersuperstructures of China and Iran and the like. Trump rightfully criticized Silicon Valley for it's dubious other countries first approach to cybersecurity. Why would SV align themselves in such manner? $$$

One more thing-- you have proven beyond doubt that you can and will say anything.
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(01-03-2021, 04:01 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(01-03-2021, 03:08 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Wait...wait...wait.  What a silly attempt at distraction.  One could say if you’re side wasn’t worried about caging children and spending billions building a few miles of wall, 350k Americans wouldn’t have died of Covid.  It’s a weak fallacy. 

Trump has been at war with Silicon Valley his entire term. BUT he wasn’t worried about national security.  His concern was his and supporter’s ability to spread disinformation. 

The last I checked Silicon Valley didn’t take an oath to protect the nation.


You don't check anything, your opinion comes to you from Rachel Maddow and Don Lemon. Obama built the cages. The wall will spare hundreds of thousands of lives that would have otherwise been lost to drug addiction, and then there is the sovereignty issue that every country with a glimmer understands. COVID came from China, and that includes Mexico and the Yucatan Peninsula. Blaming Trump for COVID deaths is asinine. 

Silicon Valley rather than aligning itself primarily with interests of the US, chose to bring along the cybersuperstructures of China and Iran and the like. Trump rightfully criticized Silicon Valley for it's dubious other countries first approach to cybersecurity. Why would SV align themselves in such manner? $$$

One more thing--  you have proven beyond doubt that you can and will say anything.

Nothing is President Trump’s fault? 

I really don’t know what you will talk about for the next four years and what the hell you were talking about the 8 years of Obama if a President has no blame in anything. 

But we are talking about his failure in protecting the nation’s Cybersecurity.  

(Wouldn’t that be socialism when a company is required to align itself with the govt? But we love socialism when it benefits us) 

Of course, another example of the “success” of Trump’s dealmaking: Piss people off to they don’t want to work with you and then blame fallout on them.  

The buck stops at the President’s desk. 

https://www.axios.com/massive-russia-hac...8d308.html

And to beat all...this probably happened in our own borders.
(01-03-2021, 04:42 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(01-03-2021, 04:01 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(01-03-2021, 03:08 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Wait...wait...wait.  What a silly attempt at distraction.  One could say if you’re side wasn’t worried about caging children and spending billions building a few miles of wall, 350k Americans wouldn’t have died of Covid.  It’s a weak fallacy. 

Trump has been at war with Silicon Valley his entire term. BUT he wasn’t worried about national security.  His concern was his and supporter’s ability to spread disinformation. 

The last I checked Silicon Valley didn’t take an oath to protect the nation.


You don't check anything, your opinion comes to you from Rachel Maddow and Don Lemon. Obama built the cages. The wall will spare hundreds of thousands of lives that would have otherwise been lost to drug addiction, and then there is the sovereignty issue that every country with a glimmer understands. COVID came from China, and that includes Mexico and the Yucatan Peninsula. Blaming Trump for COVID deaths is asinine. 

Silicon Valley rather than aligning itself primarily with interests of the US, chose to bring along the cybersuperstructures of China and Iran and the like. Trump rightfully criticized Silicon Valley for it's dubious other countries first approach to cybersecurity. Why would SV align themselves in such manner? $$$

One more thing--  you have proven beyond doubt that you can and will say anything.

Nothing is President Trump’s fault? 

I really don’t know what you will talk about for the next four years and what the hell you were talking about the 8 years of Obama if a President has no blame in anything. 

But we are talking about his failure in protecting the nation’s Cybersecurity.  

(Wouldn’t that be socialism when a company is required to align itself with the govt? But we love socialism when it benefits us) 

Of course, another example of the “success” of Trump’s dealmaking: Piss people off to they don’t want to work with you and then blame fallout on them.  

The buck stops at the President’s desk. 

https://www.axios.com/massive-russia-hac...8d308.html

And to beat all...this probably happened in our own borders.


Finally trying to be cute one of your misstatements turns out to be correct. None of the things you go on about is the President's fault. Fact check verified.

I don't know what goes on among the various agency heads and neither do you. I am reasonable enough to realize that MR Trump doesn't punch a time card every morning at the CISA. I would venture that he hasn't gone over all the defense scenarios stored at the Pentagon either, but then that's not his purview now is it? He did appoint Krebs to head up the CISA and in that he did err. That puts some of the blame for the cyberattack on the shoulders of MR Trump. Not all. I would take a look at his morning briefings and those who report to the President on such matters and see what they were telling him. Look. I understand how desperate you are to justify the leftist contempt for DJT and those 80 million or so supporters who you refer to as idiots who voted for him. And I understand that you think the President is the lowest scum on this earth. You're wrong about that but I understand it.

So let's get on with the forensic audits of the swing states in question and then if you're right we can move to clean up the mess. Or, you could continue your indefensible resistance to a sure cure because inwardly you know better.
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(01-03-2021, 05:23 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(01-03-2021, 04:42 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(01-03-2021, 04:01 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(01-03-2021, 03:08 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Wait...wait...wait.  What a silly attempt at distraction.  One could say if you’re side wasn’t worried about caging children and spending billions building a few miles of wall, 350k Americans wouldn’t have died of Covid.  It’s a weak fallacy. 

Trump has been at war with Silicon Valley his entire term. BUT he wasn’t worried about national security.  His concern was his and supporter’s ability to spread disinformation. 

The last I checked Silicon Valley didn’t take an oath to protect the nation.


You don't check anything, your opinion comes to you from Rachel Maddow and Don Lemon. Obama built the cages. The wall will spare hundreds of thousands of lives that would have otherwise been lost to drug addiction, and then there is the sovereignty issue that every country with a glimmer understands. COVID came from China, and that includes Mexico and the Yucatan Peninsula. Blaming Trump for COVID deaths is asinine. 

Silicon Valley rather than aligning itself primarily with interests of the US, chose to bring along the cybersuperstructures of China and Iran and the like. Trump rightfully criticized Silicon Valley for it's dubious other countries first approach to cybersecurity. Why would SV align themselves in such manner? $$$

One more thing--  you have proven beyond doubt that you can and will say anything.

Nothing is President Trump’s fault? 

I really don’t know what you will talk about for the next four years and what the hell you were talking about the 8 years of Obama if a President has no blame in anything. 

But we are talking about his failure in protecting the nation’s Cybersecurity.  

(Wouldn’t that be socialism when a company is required to align itself with the govt? But we love socialism when it benefits us) 

Of course, another example of the “success” of Trump’s dealmaking: Piss people off to they don’t want to work with you and then blame fallout on them.  

The buck stops at the President’s desk. 

https://www.axios.com/massive-russia-hac...8d308.html

And to beat all...this probably happened in our own borders.


Finally trying to be cute one of your misstatements turns out to be correct. None of the things you go on about is the President's fault. Fact check verified.

I don't know what goes on among the various agency heads and neither do you. I am reasonable enough to realize that MR Trump doesn't punch a time card every morning at the CISA. I would venture that he hasn't gone over all the defense scenarios stored at the Pentagon either, but then that's not his purview now is it? He did appoint Krebs to head up the CISA and in that he did err. That puts some of the blame for the cyberattack on the shoulders of MR Trump. Not all. I would take a look at his morning briefings and those who report to the President on such matters and see what they were telling him. Look. I understand how desperate you are to justify the leftist contempt for DJT and those 80 million or so supporters who you refer to as idiots who voted for him. And I understand that you think the President is the lowest scum on this earth. You're wrong about that but I understand it.

So let's get on with the forensic audits of the swing states in question and then if you're right we can move to clean up the mess. Or, you could continue your indefensible resistance to a sure cure because inwardly you know better.
80 million??!! Big Grin 
False...

Trump is the lowest scum. True 

I look forward to you excusing President Biden for a failure in his administration because he isn’t “punching a time card.”  

ain’t going to be a forensic audit. Big Grin
(01-03-2021, 06:00 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(01-03-2021, 05:23 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(01-03-2021, 04:42 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(01-03-2021, 04:01 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(01-03-2021, 03:08 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Wait...wait...wait.  What a silly attempt at distraction.  One could say if you’re side wasn’t worried about caging children and spending billions building a few miles of wall, 350k Americans wouldn’t have died of Covid.  It’s a weak fallacy. 

Trump has been at war with Silicon Valley his entire term. BUT he wasn’t worried about national security.  His concern was his and supporter’s ability to spread disinformation. 

The last I checked Silicon Valley didn’t take an oath to protect the nation.


You don't check anything, your opinion comes to you from Rachel Maddow and Don Lemon. Obama built the cages. The wall will spare hundreds of thousands of lives that would have otherwise been lost to drug addiction, and then there is the sovereignty issue that every country with a glimmer understands. COVID came from China, and that includes Mexico and the Yucatan Peninsula. Blaming Trump for COVID deaths is asinine. 

Silicon Valley rather than aligning itself primarily with interests of the US, chose to bring along the cybersuperstructures of China and Iran and the like. Trump rightfully criticized Silicon Valley for it's dubious other countries first approach to cybersecurity. Why would SV align themselves in such manner? $$$

One more thing--  you have proven beyond doubt that you can and will say anything.

Nothing is President Trump’s fault? 

I really don’t know what you will talk about for the next four years and what the hell you were talking about the 8 years of Obama if a President has no blame in anything. 

But we are talking about his failure in protecting the nation’s Cybersecurity.  

(Wouldn’t that be socialism when a company is required to align itself with the govt? But we love socialism when it benefits us) 

Of course, another example of the “success” of Trump’s dealmaking: Piss people off to they don’t want to work with you and then blame fallout on them.  

The buck stops at the President’s desk. 

https://www.axios.com/massive-russia-hac...8d308.html

And to beat all...this probably happened in our own borders.


Finally trying to be cute one of your misstatements turns out to be correct. None of the things you go on about is the President's fault. Fact check verified.

I don't know what goes on among the various agency heads and neither do you. I am reasonable enough to realize that MR Trump doesn't punch a time card every morning at the CISA. I would venture that he hasn't gone over all the defense scenarios stored at the Pentagon either, but then that's not his purview now is it? He did appoint Krebs to head up the CISA and in that he did err. That puts some of the blame for the cyberattack on the shoulders of MR Trump. Not all. I would take a look at his morning briefings and those who report to the President on such matters and see what they were telling him. Look. I understand how desperate you are to justify the leftist contempt for DJT and those 80 million or so supporters who you refer to as idiots who voted for him. And I understand that you think the President is the lowest scum on this earth. You're wrong about that but I understand it.

So let's get on with the forensic audits of the swing states in question and then if you're right we can move to clean up the mess. Or, you could continue your indefensible resistance to a sure cure because inwardly you know better.
80 million??!! Big Grin 
False...

Trump is the lowest scum. True 

I look forward to you excusing President Biden for a failure in his administration because he isn’t “punching a time card.”  

ain’t going to be a forensic audit. Big Grin


Listen, if you guys can try and say with a straight face that Biden got north of 81 million legitimate votes, I have no doubt that the Trump votes that got changed to get him there, would have given Trump 80.
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(01-03-2021, 08:18 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(01-03-2021, 06:00 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(01-03-2021, 05:23 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(01-03-2021, 04:42 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(01-03-2021, 04:01 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: You don't check anything, your opinion comes to you from Rachel Maddow and Don Lemon. Obama built the cages. The wall will spare hundreds of thousands of lives that would have otherwise been lost to drug addiction, and then there is the sovereignty issue that every country with a glimmer understands. COVID came from China, and that includes Mexico and the Yucatan Peninsula. Blaming Trump for COVID deaths is asinine. 

Silicon Valley rather than aligning itself primarily with interests of the US, chose to bring along the cybersuperstructures of China and Iran and the like. Trump rightfully criticized Silicon Valley for it's dubious other countries first approach to cybersecurity. Why would SV align themselves in such manner? $$$

One more thing--  you have proven beyond doubt that you can and will say anything.

Nothing is President Trump’s fault? 

I really don’t know what you will talk about for the next four years and what the hell you were talking about the 8 years of Obama if a President has no blame in anything. 

But we are talking about his failure in protecting the nation’s Cybersecurity.  

(Wouldn’t that be socialism when a company is required to align itself with the govt? But we love socialism when it benefits us) 

Of course, another example of the “success” of Trump’s dealmaking: Piss people off to they don’t want to work with you and then blame fallout on them.  

The buck stops at the President’s desk. 

https://www.axios.com/massive-russia-hac...8d308.html

And to beat all...this probably happened in our own borders.


Finally trying to be cute one of your misstatements turns out to be correct. None of the things you go on about is the President's fault. Fact check verified.

I don't know what goes on among the various agency heads and neither do you. I am reasonable enough to realize that MR Trump doesn't punch a time card every morning at the CISA. I would venture that he hasn't gone over all the defense scenarios stored at the Pentagon either, but then that's not his purview now is it? He did appoint Krebs to head up the CISA and in that he did err. That puts some of the blame for the cyberattack on the shoulders of MR Trump. Not all. I would take a look at his morning briefings and those who report to the President on such matters and see what they were telling him. Look. I understand how desperate you are to justify the leftist contempt for DJT and those 80 million or so supporters who you refer to as idiots who voted for him. And I understand that you think the President is the lowest scum on this earth. You're wrong about that but I understand it.

So let's get on with the forensic audits of the swing states in question and then if you're right we can move to clean up the mess. Or, you could continue your indefensible resistance to a sure cure because inwardly you know better.
80 million??!! Big Grin 
False...

Trump is the lowest scum. True 

I look forward to you excusing President Biden for a failure in his administration because he isn’t “punching a time card.”  

ain’t going to be a forensic audit. Big Grin


Listen, if you guys can try and say with a straight face that Biden got north of 81 million legitimate votes, I have no doubt that the Trump votes that got changed to get him there, would have given Trump 80.
President Elect Biden got north of 81 million votes
(01-03-2021, 08:18 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(01-03-2021, 06:00 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(01-03-2021, 05:23 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(01-03-2021, 04:42 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(01-03-2021, 04:01 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: You don't check anything, your opinion comes to you from Rachel Maddow and Don Lemon. Obama built the cages. The wall will spare hundreds of thousands of lives that would have otherwise been lost to drug addiction, and then there is the sovereignty issue that every country with a glimmer understands. COVID came from China, and that includes Mexico and the Yucatan Peninsula. Blaming Trump for COVID deaths is asinine. 

Silicon Valley rather than aligning itself primarily with interests of the US, chose to bring along the cybersuperstructures of China and Iran and the like. Trump rightfully criticized Silicon Valley for it's dubious other countries first approach to cybersecurity. Why would SV align themselves in such manner? $$$

One more thing--  you have proven beyond doubt that you can and will say anything.

Nothing is President Trump’s fault? 

I really don’t know what you will talk about for the next four years and what the hell you were talking about the 8 years of Obama if a President has no blame in anything. 

But we are talking about his failure in protecting the nation’s Cybersecurity.  

(Wouldn’t that be socialism when a company is required to align itself with the govt? But we love socialism when it benefits us) 

Of course, another example of the “success” of Trump’s dealmaking: Piss people off to they don’t want to work with you and then blame fallout on them.  

The buck stops at the President’s desk. 

https://www.axios.com/massive-russia-hac...8d308.html

And to beat all...this probably happened in our own borders.


Finally trying to be cute one of your misstatements turns out to be correct. None of the things you go on about is the President's fault. Fact check verified.

I don't know what goes on among the various agency heads and neither do you. I am reasonable enough to realize that MR Trump doesn't punch a time card every morning at the CISA. I would venture that he hasn't gone over all the defense scenarios stored at the Pentagon either, but then that's not his purview now is it? He did appoint Krebs to head up the CISA and in that he did err. That puts some of the blame for the cyberattack on the shoulders of MR Trump. Not all. I would take a look at his morning briefings and those who report to the President on such matters and see what they were telling him. Look. I understand how desperate you are to justify the leftist contempt for DJT and those 80 million or so supporters who you refer to as idiots who voted for him. And I understand that you think the President is the lowest scum on this earth. You're wrong about that but I understand it.

So let's get on with the forensic audits of the swing states in question and then if you're right we can move to clean up the mess. Or, you could continue your indefensible resistance to a sure cure because inwardly you know better.
80 million??!! Big Grin 
False...

Trump is the lowest scum. True 

I look forward to you excusing President Biden for a failure in his administration because he isn’t “punching a time card.”  

ain’t going to be a forensic audit. Big Grin


Listen, if you guys can try and say with a straight face that Biden got north of 81 million legitimate votes, I have no doubt that the Trump votes that got changed to get him there, would have given Trump 80.

81 millions people hate DJT.  

It’s not Biden love.
^^ You'll never convince me that 81 million sociopaths voted for Biden. I mean, I try to give credit where it's due and I accept that a solid ratio of the zoo-stew Democrat base are in fact clinical. But no way are there 81 million.
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(01-03-2021, 08:54 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: ^^ You'll never convince me that 81 million sociopaths voted for Biden. I mean, I try to give credit where it's due and I accept that a solid ratio of the zoo-stew Democrat base are in fact clinical. But no way are there 81 million.

Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt.
(01-03-2021, 09:13 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(01-03-2021, 08:54 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: ^^ You'll never convince me that 81 million sociopaths voted for Biden. I mean, I try to give credit where it's due and I accept that a solid ratio of the zoo-stew Democrat base are in fact clinical. But no way are there 81 million.

Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt.


Said the expert in the art of denial.
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(01-03-2021, 09:48 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(01-03-2021, 09:13 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(01-03-2021, 08:54 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: ^^ You'll never convince me that 81 million sociopaths voted for Biden. I mean, I try to give credit where it's due and I accept that a solid ratio of the zoo-stew Democrat base are in fact clinical. But no way are there 81 million.

Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt.


Said the expert in the art of denial.

Haven’t denied anything, Pee Wee.

The best question is how did the worst person on the planet get 70 million votes.  Must have been a cyber hack that the current president allowed from his Russian friends.
^^ Oh yes you have. You've denied everything of substance since the day you started posting on the political forum.
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(01-04-2021, 12:01 AM)TheRealThing Wrote: ^^ Oh yes you have. You've denied everything of substance since the day you started posting on the political forum.

Won’t we all be glad that an administration that allowed such a massive hack occur is gone?
(01-04-2021, 12:05 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(01-04-2021, 12:01 AM)TheRealThing Wrote: ^^ Oh yes you have. You've denied everything of substance since the day you started posting on the political forum.

Won’t we all be glad that an administration that allowed such a massive hack occur is gone?
Are you knowledgeable enough about any subject to discuss it without constant trolling? Cyber security is definitely not such a subject. Nobody who defended Hillary Clinton's cyber crimes has any credibility on this topic.
(01-04-2021, 12:36 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(01-04-2021, 12:05 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(01-04-2021, 12:01 AM)TheRealThing Wrote: ^^ Oh yes you have. You've denied everything of substance since the day you started posting on the political forum.

Won’t we all be glad that an administration that allowed such a massive hack occur is gone?
Are you knowledgeable enough about any subject to discuss it without constant trolling? Cyber security is definitely not such a subject. Nobody who defended Hillary Clinton's cyber crimes has any credibility on this topic.

True, but somebody who allegedly works in cybersecurity would never support this administration unless they were complicit.
(01-04-2021, 12:39 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(01-04-2021, 12:36 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(01-04-2021, 12:05 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(01-04-2021, 12:01 AM)TheRealThing Wrote: ^^ Oh yes you have. You've denied everything of substance since the day you started posting on the political forum.

Won’t we all be glad that an administration that allowed such a massive hack occur is gone?
Are you knowledgeable enough about any subject to discuss it without constant trolling? Cyber security is definitely not such a subject. Nobody who defended Hillary Clinton's cyber crimes has any credibility on this topic.

True, but somebody who allegedly works in cybersecurity would never support this administration unless they were complicit.
Keep talking about subjects that you know nothing about. If just reinforces people's perception of you.
Maybe Hooter and TRT are right.

HRC's email conspiracy WAS the most destructive act in American history.

The mileage the right got from that false scandal elected Donald Trump.

And this is what we got: Covid killing 350k +, numerous embarrassments on the world stage, and now making a mockery of democracy.

It took me a while to understand, guys, but you were right all along.
(01-04-2021, 10:15 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Maybe Hooter and TRT are right. 

HRC's email conspiracy WAS the most destructive act in American history. 

The mileage the right got from that false scandal elected Donald Trump. 

And this is what we got:    Covid killing 350k +,  numerous embarrassments on the world stage, and now making a mockery of democracy. 

It took me a while to understand, guys, but you were right all along.


One would have to have a basic understanding of what constitutes embarrassment in order to assess any "embarrassments on the world stage." What you have written on this forum proves you are devoid of such understanding.
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Big Grin
Big Grin

Maybe You guys can brag about Trump’s Iran policy.
(01-04-2021, 03:20 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Big Grin
Big Grin

Maybe You guys can brag about Trump’s Iran policy.


Same problem. One would need an understanding of the implications and the moral foundations of the Preamble of the Constitution, to fathom why MR Trump's policy on Iran fairly shines like a super nova when compared to that of Obama. Past that, you don't help sworn enemies acquire the technological means to eradicate the entire US populace with the mere push of a button.
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(01-04-2021, 03:31 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(01-04-2021, 03:20 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Big Grin
Big Grin

Maybe You guys can brag about Trump’s Iran policy.


Same problem. One would need an understanding of the implications and the moral foundations of the Preamble of the Constitution, to fathom why MR Trump's policy on Iran fairly shines like a super nova when compared to that of Obama. Past that, you don't help sworn enemies acquire the technological means to eradicate the entire US populace with the mere push of a button.

The fairy tale you’re explaining isn’t matching the real world. 

In last month:

massive Russian hack
Chinese bounties on American soldiers
Iran enriching Uranium and aggression in ME.


Remind me again how great Trump is doing.
(01-04-2021, 03:46 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(01-04-2021, 03:31 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(01-04-2021, 03:20 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Big Grin
Big Grin

Maybe You guys can brag about Trump’s Iran policy.


Same problem. One would need an understanding of the implications and the moral foundations of the Preamble of the Constitution, to fathom why MR Trump's policy on Iran fairly shines like a super nova when compared to that of Obama. Past that, you don't help sworn enemies acquire the technological means to eradicate the entire US populace with the mere push of a button.

The fairy tale you’re explaining isn’t matching the real world. 

In last month:

massive Russian hack
Chinese bounties on American soldiers
Iran enriching Uranium and aggression in ME.


Remind me again how great Trump is doing.


Why would I tell you for the nth time that which you refuse to acknowledge? Trump has done what he could do in the face of incredible opposition on both sides.

Harry Reid was the culprit who under the Obama administration's malfeasant reign, led the Senate  and therefore the US Congress into gridlock for the first time in modern history. His contempt driven ire and that of his cohorts in the Democrat Conference over having lost the majority, have presided over since that day what has been a downhill slide from then until now. The Democrat's officially self-defined era of 'the resistance.' There truly are some rather spineless Republicans who have chosen to cower before the demands of special interests and the idiocy of political correctness, I totally agree. That's on them. But the will of those who sent them are not being represented.

But if there was not a man left on this planet with whom I could agree, I would still hold true to my personal convictions. Convictions of which are based in truth. And though that truth has often been less than easy on my own conscience I have swallowed my foolish pride, and conformed to His will to the best of my limited ability. First order of business of course, was to bow before Him in true repentance for my sin. I accept without doubt or question that the Spirit of God gives discerning wisdom to those saved who seek Him. But when I can go to the Scriptures and read the prerecorded historical record for our own day that He has provided for His followers to see and understand, I am always strengthened. Just saw this yesterday--

ISAIAH Chapter 9 (KJV)

16 For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed.

17 Therefore the Lord shall have no joy in their young men, neither shall have mercy on their fatherless and widows: for every one is an hypocrite and an evildoer, and every mouth speaketh folly. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.
18 For wickedness burneth as the fire: it shall devour the briers and thorns, and shall kindle in the thickets of the forest, and they shall mount up like the lifting up of smoke.

19 Through the wrath of the Lord of hosts is the land darkened, and the people shall be as the fuel of the fire: no man shall spare his brother.

Notice God did not say 'the leader' He said the leaders. This is the perfect passage to demonstrate what I have been warning about. Leadership can be destructive and identifying bad leadership is up to the individual, not subject to groupthink or political narrative. The reason I know this passage to be valid for our day is because the chronology in the following 10th chapter of Isaiah, God deals with the sad state of the affairs of men and of world government in general, the Great Tribulation and Armageddon.

The time is coming when those who were so eager to overturn established societal norms will themselves be persecuted by that very same mindless rebellion they cheered on and helped to set in motion, which as in the beginning, exists only for the sake of rebellion.
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(01-04-2021, 05:04 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(01-04-2021, 03:46 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(01-04-2021, 03:31 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(01-04-2021, 03:20 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Big Grin
Big Grin

Maybe You guys can brag about Trump’s Iran policy.


Same problem. One would need an understanding of the implications and the moral foundations of the Preamble of the Constitution, to fathom why MR Trump's policy on Iran fairly shines like a super nova when compared to that of Obama. Past that, you don't help sworn enemies acquire the technological means to eradicate the entire US populace with the mere push of a button.

The fairy tale you’re explaining isn’t matching the real world. 

In last month:

massive Russian hack
Chinese bounties on American soldiers
Iran enriching Uranium and aggression in ME.


Remind me again how great Trump is doing.


Why would I tell you for the nth time that which you refuse to acknowledge? Trump has done what he could do in the face of incredible opposition on both sides.

Harry Reid was the culprit who under the Obama administration's malfeasant reign, led the Senate  and therefore the US Congress into gridlock for the first time in modern history. His contempt driven ire and that of his cohorts in the Democrat Conference over having lost the majority, have presided over since that day what has been a downhill slide from then until now. The Democrat's officially self-defined era of 'the resistance.' There truly are some rather spineless Republicans who have chosen to cower before the demands of special interests and the idiocy of political correctness, I totally agree. That's on them. But the will of those who sent them are not being represented.

But if there was not a man left on this planet with whom I could agree, I would still hold true to my personal convictions. Convictions of which are based in truth. And though that truth has often been less than easy on my own conscience I have swallowed my foolish pride, and conformed to His will to the best of my limited ability. First order of business of course, was to bow before Him in true repentance for my sin. I accept without doubt or question that the Spirit of God gives discerning wisdom to those saved who seek Him. But when I can go to the Scriptures and read the prerecorded historical record for our own day that He has provided for His followers to see and understand, I am always strengthened. Just saw this yesterday--

ISAIAH Chapter 9 (KJV)

16 For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed.

17 Therefore the Lord shall have no joy in their young men, neither shall have mercy on their fatherless and widows: for every one is an hypocrite and an evildoer, and every mouth speaketh folly. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.
18 For wickedness burneth as the fire: it shall devour the briers and thorns, and shall kindle in the thickets of the forest, and they shall mount up like the lifting up of smoke.

19 Through the wrath of the Lord of hosts is the land darkened, and the people shall be as the fuel of the fire: no man shall spare his brother.

Notice God did not say 'the leader' He said the leaders. This is the perfect passage to demonstrate what I have been warning about. Leadership can be destructive and identifying bad leadership is up to the individual, not subject to groupthink or political narrative. The reason I know this passage to be valid for our day is because the chronology in the following 10th chapter of Isaiah, God deals with the sad state of the affairs of men and of world government in general, the Great Tribulation and Armageddon.

The time is coming when those who were so eager to overturn established societal norms will themselves be persecuted by that very same mindless rebellion they cheered on and helped to set in motion, which as in the beginning, exists only for the sake of rebellion.
You never Disappoint TRT Spin some and Spin some more end with a couple Bible Versus
The more you can't take up for your Dear Leader there's more Bible Versus
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(01-04-2021, 05:40 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(01-04-2021, 05:04 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(01-04-2021, 03:46 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(01-04-2021, 03:31 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(01-04-2021, 03:20 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Big Grin
Big Grin

Maybe You guys can brag about Trump’s Iran policy.


Same problem. One would need an understanding of the implications and the moral foundations of the Preamble of the Constitution, to fathom why MR Trump's policy on Iran fairly shines like a super nova when compared to that of Obama. Past that, you don't help sworn enemies acquire the technological means to eradicate the entire US populace with the mere push of a button.

The fairy tale you’re explaining isn’t matching the real world. 

In last month:

massive Russian hack
Chinese bounties on American soldiers
Iran enriching Uranium and aggression in ME.


Remind me again how great Trump is doing.


Why would I tell you for the nth time that which you refuse to acknowledge? Trump has done what he could do in the face of incredible opposition on both sides.

Harry Reid was the culprit who under the Obama administration's malfeasant reign, led the Senate  and therefore the US Congress into gridlock for the first time in modern history. His contempt driven ire and that of his cohorts in the Democrat Conference over having lost the majority, have presided over since that day what has been a downhill slide from then until now. The Democrat's officially self-defined era of 'the resistance.' There truly are some rather spineless Republicans who have chosen to cower before the demands of special interests and the idiocy of political correctness, I totally agree. That's on them. But the will of those who sent them are not being represented.

But if there was not a man left on this planet with whom I could agree, I would still hold true to my personal convictions. Convictions of which are based in truth. And though that truth has often been less than easy on my own conscience I have swallowed my foolish pride, and conformed to His will to the best of my limited ability. First order of business of course, was to bow before Him in true repentance for my sin. I accept without doubt or question that the Spirit of God gives discerning wisdom to those saved who seek Him. But when I can go to the Scriptures and read the prerecorded historical record for our own day that He has provided for His followers to see and understand, I am always strengthened. Just saw this yesterday--

ISAIAH Chapter 9 (KJV)

16 For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed.

17 Therefore the Lord shall have no joy in their young men, neither shall have mercy on their fatherless and widows: for every one is an hypocrite and an evildoer, and every mouth speaketh folly. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.
18 For wickedness burneth as the fire: it shall devour the briers and thorns, and shall kindle in the thickets of the forest, and they shall mount up like the lifting up of smoke.

19 Through the wrath of the Lord of hosts is the land darkened, and the people shall be as the fuel of the fire: no man shall spare his brother.

Notice God did not say 'the leader' He said the leaders. This is the perfect passage to demonstrate what I have been warning about. Leadership can be destructive and identifying bad leadership is up to the individual, not subject to groupthink or political narrative. The reason I know this passage to be valid for our day is because the chronology in the following 10th chapter of Isaiah, God deals with the sad state of the affairs of men and of world government in general, the Great Tribulation and Armageddon.

The time is coming when those who were so eager to overturn established societal norms will themselves be persecuted by that very same mindless rebellion they cheered on and helped to set in motion, which as in the beginning, exists only for the sake of rebellion.
You never Disappoint TRT Spin some and Spin some more end with a couple Bible Versus
The more you can't take up for your Dear Leader there's more Bible Versus
Injecting religion in a political argument never wins. 

It sure doesn’t distract from the international failure that is the Trump administration.  

The task the Biden administration has will never be understood.  Let’s pray we can begin to work together here at home and with our allies, because our enemies are  stronger, and we are weaker than we have ever been after this dumpster fire.
^^ Well, I'll tell ya. The pompous self proclamations of categorical exactness of which you are so fond to commit sure don't cut the ice, that's certain.

It is impossible to inject God's Word in any situation without achieving the desired positive affect. Much less a reference which is precisely intended for to address specifically the political dispute we have here. And the ramifications outlined, death and destruction to those who're being led, which ought to bring about chills to any rational minded person. I fully expected you to dodge or deny it's implications but then my post was not intended for you. As I keep telling you, you serve a purpose.

That's why the Lord has admonished His people not to go too far with their opposition to the death grip under which so many people in the world are beset.
Romans 12:19 The Apostle Paul speaking---

Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," says the Lord.

As in the days of the early Church, there are not enough jails, enough courtrooms, enough cat calling and persecution to overcome the truth. The truth is that God is sovereign, and He rules this universe completely down to the last wayward quark. All the forces of evil could not prevail in Rome, and they will fair even worse in this day.

The same is true for the cause of Christ and that's why I posted His warning above. It's our job to point the way and speak the truth, always. But we don't rise up to arms in some kind of misguided coup attempt. Neither do we judge. It's His and His only, to judge men, reward men, or punish men and I can assure there will be zero mistakes made to that end.
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https://techcrunch.com/2021/01/05/fbi-ns...in-origin/


Probably China.
(01-05-2021, 06:47 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: https://techcrunch.com/2021/01/05/fbi-ns...in-origin/


Probably China.
Looks like Hooter and TRT are wrong again that's what happens when you believe everything the Dear Leader Tweets or Say
Time to reward work instead of wealth

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