[mr.fundamental]

I thought it would be nice to set up a list of things that are hypocritical from the GOP in the last 4 years as we now turn towards a new administration.

1. Deficits
2. Moral Clarity (Franklin Graham, please stand up... lol)
3.  Pro Life ( 250,000 DEAD and counting, oh and for it to be fake why take the vaccine now?)
4. Trickle Down Economy ( will post a link shortly about a 50 YEAR study)
5. Socialism ( will post ideas about bailing out banks)
6. Mexico will pay for the wall ( Will post how much of that new stimulus package will go towards it)
7. Cabinet Picks and that whole process
8. Selecting judges

What else should we add?

[Cardfan1]

Patriotism

[Old School Hound]

Family values...

[Cardfan1]

Hillary Clinton: shouldn’t she be in jail for mishandling govt information?

[Van Hagar]

The Obamas were racists.

[Hoot Gibson]

The Obamas were racists.

I agree 100 percent.

[Hoot Gibson]

Hillary Clinton:  shouldn’t she be in jail for mishandling govt information?

 I completely agree!

[Hoot Gibson]

There will always be politicians within a party who betray their own party's values. When a nation has a population of more than 300 million, that cannot be avoided. The Republicans with whom I agree on most issues represent a small minority of the members of the current Congress. I agree most of the time with the six Republican senators who voted against the disastrous and most recent "stimulus" bill. 

How can anybody support an elected representative who would vote for a bill nearly 5600 pages long without even reading it? There is no way to possibly justify doing so. The more that I listen to Democrat Tulsi Gabbard, the more that I find myself agreeing with her positions, including her decision not to vote for a bill on which she was asked to vote without reading it.

I have also found that most of the people in Washington with whom I agree were recently elected to the House of Representatives. The longer people work in elected or appointed positions in our federal government and reside in this area, the more corrupt they become. That is true of all three branches of government.

The only reason that I see for voting for the stimulus bill is that it provides slush funds to enrich Washington politicians and their families. If signed into law, House members would get a huge salary increase and foreign governments would get aid to fund bribes to U.S. politicians. The stimulus bill is a very bad bargain for working people and if they do not strip it of all of the pork barrel spending and restrict it to saving small businesses and individual taxpayers, Trump should veto the bill.

If you really want to understand how broken our federal government, study the evidence against Hunter Biden. The model that the Biden crime family follows is bipartisan. 

No matter what you think of Donald Trump, he has been the only U.S. president in decades that has stood up to Washington establishment politicians in both parties. Biden and the Democrats will probably get away with stealing the presidential election from him, not because of crooked Democrats, but because of crooked, gutless Republicans. The GOP has the power to ensure that all legal votes are counted and enough illegal votes are discarded to elect Trump to a second term and if he loses, then Republicans will deserve as much blame as Democrats.

There is no future in supporting and cheerleading a corrupt government, no matter which party you belong to. Greedy, corrupt politicians will continue to enrich themselves at our expense and at an increasing rate until they collapse the government and the economy, as they blame a minority (Jews, white males, etc.) and/or a foreign enemy. Our federal government distracts voters from real issues while they rob us blind. That is what every government that is not held in check by its citizens does.

[vector#1]

Hillary Clinton:  shouldn’t she be in jail for mishandling govt information?

 I completely agree!

Once again Hooter you are wrong if anything the Dear Leader going to have a hard time dodging jail time when he leaves office
But on the bright side the orange jump suit will go good with his hair

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There will always be politicians within a party who portray their own party's values. When a nation has a population of more than 300 million, that cannot be avoided. The Republicans with whom I agree on most issues represent a small minority of the members of the current Congress. I agree most of the time with the six Republican senators who voted against the disastrous and most recent "stimulus" bill. 

How can anybody support an elected representative who would vote for a bill nearly 5600 pages long without even reading it? There is no way to possibly justify doing so. The more that I listen to Democrat Tulsi Gabbard, the more that I find myself agreeing with her positions, including her decision not to vote for a bill on which she was asked to vote without reading it.

I have also found that most of the people in Washington with whom I agree were recently elected to the House of Representatives. The longer people word in elected or appointed positions in our federal government and reside in this area, the more corrupt the tend to become. That is true of all three branches of government.

The only reason that I see for voting for the stimulus bill is that it provides slush funds to enrich Washington politicians and their families. If signed into law, House members would get a huge salary increase and foreign governments would get aid to fund bribes to U.S. politicians. The stimulus bill is a very bad bargain for working people and if they do not strip it of all of the pork barrel spending and restrict it to saving small businesses and individual taxpayers, Trump should veto the bill.

If you really want to understand how broken our federal government, study the evidence against Hunter Biden. The model that the Biden crime family follows is bipartisan. 

No matter what you think of Donald Trump, he has been the only U.S. president in decades that has stood up to Washington establishment politicians in both parties. Biden and the Democrats will probably get away with stealing the presidential election from him, not because of crooked Democrats, but because of crooked, gutless Republicans. The GOP has the power to ensure that all legal votes are counted and enough illegal votes are discarded to elect Trump to a second term and if he loses, then Republicans will deserve as much blame as Democrats.

There is no future in supporting and cheerleading a corrupt government, no matter which party you belong to. Greedy, corrupt politicians will continue to enrich themselves at our expense and at an increasing rate until they collapse the government and the economy, as they blame a minority (Jews, white males, etc.) and/or a foreign force. Our federal government distract voters from real issues while they rob us blind. That is what every government that is not held in check by its citizens does.

When has the Dear Leader stood against the Washington politicians ?
But i am glad you are starting to come around with Joseph Biden will be your president

[Hoot Gibson]

Hillary Clinton:  shouldn’t she be in jail for mishandling govt information?

 I completely agree!

Once again Hooter you are wrong if anything the Dear Leader going to have a hard time dodging jail time when he leaves office
But on the bright side the orange jump suit will go good with his hair

Once again, you distract from the real issue. If Trump had committed a real crime, then he would have been impeached, convicted, and removed from office. Instead, Democrats impeached him for suggesting that Ukraine should investigate a real crime. 

Hillary Clinton is a career criminal, along with her rapist husband. She has avoided prison by corrupting our government from within for decades. She is guilty of treason for attempting to topple the Trump administration by paying for the Steele dossier.

You are probably unaware of this fact, but the attempted Obama/Hillary coup is the subject of a Special Counsel investigation. Donald Trump just gave Special Counsel, John Durham, permission to present classified information to a grand jury. Do you know what grand juries do, vector?

[vector#1]

Once again you are wrong there was a lot of your Dear Leader's puppets who have plead guilty or was indicted and convicted of crimes
Your Dear Leader is named in a indictment in NY State they are just chomping at the bit on Jan 21st
His business is under investigation as of right now in NY State his 2 personal banker's resign yesterday

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trumps...1608697069
Hillary is a free woman your Dear Leader will have a hard time when he leaves office to escape jail time
A presidential pardon will not help your Dear Leader in a state crime you do know that 
As far as your so called John Durham investigation i believe if he had anything it would of come out before the election
I think we have heard the last of John Durham
And YES he was impeached but his puppets in the senate they let him go I bet they are having second thoughts about that now

[Hoot Gibson]

Once again you are wrong there was a lot of your Dear Leader's puppets who have plead guilty or was indicted and convicted of crimes
Your Dear Leader is named in a indictment in NY State they are just chomping at the bit on Jan 21st
His business is under investigation as of right now in NY State his 2 personal banker's resign yesterday

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trumps...1608697069
Hillary is a free woman your Dear Leader will have a hard time when he leaves office to escape jail time
A presidential pardon will not help your Dear Leader in a state crime you do know that 
As far as your so called John Durham investigation i believe if he had anything it would of come out before the election
I think we have heard the last of John Durham
And YES he was impeached but his puppets in the senate they let him go I bet they are having second thoughts about that now

You are absolutely consumed with ignorance and hatred. There is no room for anything else in that head of your's.

[vector#1]

Once again if you defend the truth attack the messenger your consistence

[Hoot Gibson]

Once again if you defend the truth attack the messenger your consistence

What a garbled mess of a response! If we must communicate, let us both attempt to do so in English, please.

[Cardfan1]

Add to original post.

Trump is not a Republican.

(Yes he is. He says and does the things Republicans believe, but his narcissism allowed him to say and do the things other Republicans were too craven to do)

[Cardfan1]

Another one:

Law and Order.

[Cardfan1]

Patriotism

[vector#1]

Another great example of what conservative really means

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/...p#image=10

[Hoot Gibson]

Another great example of what  conservative really means

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/...p#image=10

^This is the type of mindless posts that we have come to expect from most of the liberals who frequent this forum.

The problem with this idiotic post is that many of the companies in the slide show support radical left wing social agendas. For example, there is nothing conservative about Jeff Bezos' Amazon companies. Do you even read the articles that you link here?

[vector#1]

Another great example of what  conservative really means

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/...p#image=10

^This is the type of mindless posts that we have come to expect from most of the liberals who frequent this forum.

The problem with this idiotic post is that many of the companies in the slide show support radical left wing social agendas. For example, there is nothing conservative about Jeff Bezos' Amazon companies. Do you even read the articles that you link here?

I don't care which party they are for but your conservative party has been doing this for 40 years now maybe they have developed a guilty consonance

[Hoot Gibson]

Another great example of what  conservative really means

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/...p#image=10

^This is the type of mindless posts that we have come to expect from most of the liberals who frequent this forum.

The problem with this idiotic post is that many of the companies in the slide show support radical left wing social agendas. For example, there is nothing conservative about Jeff Bezos' Amazon companies. Do you even read the articles that you link here?

I don't care which party they are for but your conservative party has been doing this for 40 years now maybe they have developed a guilty consonance

You're wrong, vector, as usual and as usual, not man enough to own your mistake. 

Corporations take advantage of tax laws as they are written. It doesn't matter if the corporation is owned by a flaming liberal like Bezos or a conservative like Mike Lindell. Their accountants and CFOs' jobs are to legally minimize the corporations' tax bills. 

Corporate income taxes should be eliminated entirely and we would all be better off. Both employees of corporations and shareholders pay taxes on the income that they derive from corporations. The big corporations that you demonize provide millions of well paying jobs and they pay trillions of dollars in other types of taxes, licenses, and other fees to local, state, and federal governments.

I am no fan of Jeff Bezos and his left wing politics but he has done millions of times more for his country than you or I have. Bezos also intends to spend a large portion of his personal fortune investing in the infrastructure that future generations will use to mine the asteroids. I appreciate what he has done for this country, just as I appreciate what Trump has done for this country. I wish that Bezos had worked with Trump instead of against him, but it is a free country.

[vector#1]

Another great example of what  conservative really means

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/...p#image=10

^This is the type of mindless posts that we have come to expect from most of the liberals who frequent this forum.

The problem with this idiotic post is that many of the companies in the slide show support radical left wing social agendas. For example, there is nothing conservative about Jeff Bezos' Amazon companies. Do you even read the articles that you link here?

I don't care which party they are for but your conservative party has been doing this for 40 years now maybe they have developed a guilty consonance

You're wrong, vector, as usual and as usual, not man enough to own your mistake. 

Corporations take advantage of tax laws as they are written. It doesn't matter if the corporation is owned by a flaming liberal like Bezos or a conservative like Mike Lindell. Their accountants and CFOs' jobs are to legally minimize the corporations' tax bills. 

Corporate income taxes should be eliminated entirely and we would all be better off. Both employees of corporations and shareholders pay taxes on the income that they derive from corporations. The big corporations that you demonize provide millions of well paying jobs and they pay trillions of dollars in other types of taxes, licenses, and other fees to local, state, and federal governments.

I am no fan of Jeff Bezos and his left wing politics but he has done millions of times more for his country than you or I have. Bezos also intends to spend a large portion of his personal fortune investing in the infrastructure that future generations will use to mine the asteroids. I appreciate what he has done for this country, just as I appreciate what Trump has done for this country. I wish that Bezos had worked with Trump instead of against him, but it is a free country.

corporations take advantage of tax laws that was written by conservatives the last 40 years FACT
if you had taken a little time they now have it where they are paying NO federal taxes in FACT they are given refunds
as far as paying other taxes the only ones they are paying now is the payroll taxes but i bet in the next 10 years they are going to try to weasel out of them if the Turd had not been throwed out that was one of his next step
as far as creating jobs you and i see this very different i believe the consumer creates the jobs and you the rich people 
i don't think you can create or add one job without the consumer this country did very well before the conservatives started cutting taxes in fact we had a thriving middle class now it's just about gone

[Hoot Gibson]

Another great example of what  conservative really means

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/...p#image=10

^This is the type of mindless posts that we have come to expect from most of the liberals who frequent this forum.

The problem with this idiotic post is that many of the companies in the slide show support radical left wing social agendas. For example, there is nothing conservative about Jeff Bezos' Amazon companies. Do you even read the articles that you link here?

I don't care which party they are for but your conservative party has been doing this for 40 years now maybe they have developed a guilty consonance

You're wrong, vector, as usual and as usual, not man enough to own your mistake. 

Corporations take advantage of tax laws as they are written. It doesn't matter if the corporation is owned by a flaming liberal like Bezos or a conservative like Mike Lindell. Their accountants and CFOs' jobs are to legally minimize the corporations' tax bills. 

Corporate income taxes should be eliminated entirely and we would all be better off. Both employees of corporations and shareholders pay taxes on the income that they derive from corporations. The big corporations that you demonize provide millions of well paying jobs and they pay trillions of dollars in other types of taxes, licenses, and other fees to local, state, and federal governments.

I am no fan of Jeff Bezos and his left wing politics but he has done millions of times more for his country than you or I have. Bezos also intends to spend a large portion of his personal fortune investing in the infrastructure that future generations will use to mine the asteroids. I appreciate what he has done for this country, just as I appreciate what Trump has done for this country. I wish that Bezos had worked with Trump instead of against him, but it is a free country.

corporations take advantage of tax laws that was written by conservatives the last 40 years FACT
if you had taken a little time they now have it where they are paying NO federal taxes in FACT they are given refunds
as far as paying other taxes the only ones they are paying now is the payroll taxes but i bet in the next 10 years they are going to try to weasel out of them if the Turd had not been throwed out that was one of his next step
as far as creating jobs you and i see this very different i believe the consumer creates the jobs and you the rich people 
i don't think you can create or add one job without the consumer this country did very well before the conservatives started cutting taxes in fact we had a thriving middle class now it's just about gone

You've bought into all of the big lies that the liberal politicians have told you, vector. That's really sad. The truth is that every large corporation and industry lobbies Congress to pass favorable legislation. Some of those Representatives and Senators are Democrats and some are Republicans. Sometimes the president is a Democrat and sometimes he is a Republican. It doesn't matter, lobbyists do what lobbyists do. Politicians get elected by convincing people like you that all of the evil in the world is caused by the other party. It has obviously worked like a charm in your case. You are a Democrat politician's dream voter.

Here is what is going to happen over the coming months. Joe Biden will pass huge tax increases and burdensome regulations on businesses and those businesses will send their lobbyists to the PACs and other organizations that manage the Democrats' slush funds. In exchange, some pork barrel spending will be buried in some bills that will ease some of the burden on those businesses. The big losers will be small businesses that cannot afford high paid lobbyists to go meet with Biden and their representatives in Congress. There will be no relief for them.

That is the way the real world works, vector. It is how most Democrats and most Republicans govern. Convincing gullible people like you that the other party is to blame for all of your problems and ills of society is the Washington swamp's business model.

[vector#1]

^This is the type of mindless posts that we have come to expect from most of the liberals who frequent this forum.

The problem with this idiotic post is that many of the companies in the slide show support radical left wing social agendas. For example, there is nothing conservative about Jeff Bezos' Amazon companies. Do you even read the articles that you link here?

I don't care which party they are for but your conservative party has been doing this for 40 years now maybe they have developed a guilty consonance

You're wrong, vector, as usual and as usual, not man enough to own your mistake. 

Corporations take advantage of tax laws as they are written. It doesn't matter if the corporation is owned by a flaming liberal like Bezos or a conservative like Mike Lindell. Their accountants and CFOs' jobs are to legally minimize the corporations' tax bills. 

Corporate income taxes should be eliminated entirely and we would all be better off. Both employees of corporations and shareholders pay taxes on the income that they derive from corporations. The big corporations that you demonize provide millions of well paying jobs and they pay trillions of dollars in other types of taxes, licenses, and other fees to local, state, and federal governments.

I am no fan of Jeff Bezos and his left wing politics but he has done millions of times more for his country than you or I have. Bezos also intends to spend a large portion of his personal fortune investing in the infrastructure that future generations will use to mine the asteroids. I appreciate what he has done for this country, just as I appreciate what Trump has done for this country. I wish that Bezos had worked with Trump instead of against him, but it is a free country.

corporations take advantage of tax laws that was written by conservatives the last 40 years FACT
if you had taken a little time they now have it where they are paying NO federal taxes in FACT they are given refunds
as far as paying other taxes the only ones they are paying now is the payroll taxes but i bet in the next 10 years they are going to try to weasel out of them if the Turd had not been throwed out that was one of his next step
as far as creating jobs you and i see this very different i believe the consumer creates the jobs and you the rich people 
i don't think you can create or add one job without the consumer this country did very well before the conservatives started cutting taxes in fact we had a thriving middle class now it's just about gone

You've bought into all of the big lies that the liberal politicians have told you, vector. That's really sad. The truth is that every large corporation and industry lobbies Congress to pass favorable legislation. Some of those Representatives and Senators are Democrats and some are Republicans. Sometimes the president is a Democrat and sometimes he is a Republican. It doesn't matter, lobbyists do what lobbyists do. Politicians get elected by convincing people like you that all of the evil in the world is caused by the other party. It has obviously worked like a charm in your case. You are a Democrat politician's dream voter.

Here is what is going to happen over the coming months. Joe Biden will pass huge tax increases and burdensome regulations on businesses and those businesses will send their lobbyists to the PACs and other organiza tions that manage the Democrats' slush funds. In exchange, some pork barrel spending will be buried in some bills that will ease some of the burden on those businesses. The big losers will be small businesses that cannot afford high paid lobbyists to go meet with Biden and their representatives in Congress. There will be no relief for them.

That is the way the real world works, vector. It is how most Democrats and most Republicans govern. Convincing gullible people like you that the other party is to blame for all of your problems and ills of society is the Washington swamp's business model.

If he does pass any taxes on businesses at least they will pay some seem like they do a lot better when conservatives are in charge can't deny that i have no problems have done pretty good but i have paid my share of taxes unlike the corporations you like to take up for

[Hoot Gibson]

I don't care which party they are for but your conservative party has been doing this for 40 years now maybe they have developed a guilty consonance

You're wrong, vector, as usual and as usual, not man enough to own your mistake. 

Corporations take advantage of tax laws as they are written. It doesn't matter if the corporation is owned by a flaming liberal like Bezos or a conservative like Mike Lindell. Their accountants and CFOs' jobs are to legally minimize the corporations' tax bills. 

Corporate income taxes should be eliminated entirely and we would all be better off. Both employees of corporations and shareholders pay taxes on the income that they derive from corporations. The big corporations that you demonize provide millions of well paying jobs and they pay trillions of dollars in other types of taxes, licenses, and other fees to local, state, and federal governments.

I am no fan of Jeff Bezos and his left wing politics but he has done millions of times more for his country than you or I have. Bezos also intends to spend a large portion of his personal fortune investing in the infrastructure that future generations will use to mine the asteroids. I appreciate what he has done for this country, just as I appreciate what Trump has done for this country. I wish that Bezos had worked with Trump instead of against him, but it is a free country.

corporations take advantage of tax laws that was written by conservatives the last 40 years FACT
if you had taken a little time they now have it where they are paying NO federal taxes in FACT they are given refunds
as far as paying other taxes the only ones they are paying now is the payroll taxes but i bet in the next 10 years they are going to try to weasel out of them if the Turd had not been throwed out that was one of his next step
as far as creating jobs you and i see this very different i believe the consumer creates the jobs and you the rich people 
i don't think you can create or add one job without the consumer this country did very well before the conservatives started cutting taxes in fact we had a thriving middle class now it's just about gone

You've bought into all of the big lies that the liberal politicians have told you, vector. That's really sad. The truth is that every large corporation and industry lobbies Congress to pass favorable legislation. Some of those Representatives and Senators are Democrats and some are Republicans. Sometimes the president is a Democrat and sometimes he is a Republican. It doesn't matter, lobbyists do what lobbyists do. Politicians get elected by convincing people like you that all of the evil in the world is caused by the other party. It has obviously worked like a charm in your case. You are a Democrat politician's dream voter.

Here is what is going to happen over the coming months. Joe Biden will pass huge tax increases and burdensome regulations on businesses and those businesses will send their lobbyists to the PACs and other organiza tions that manage the Democrats' slush funds. In exchange, some pork barrel spending will be buried in some bills that will ease some of the burden on those businesses. The big losers will be small businesses that cannot afford high paid lobbyists to go meet with Biden and their representatives in Congress. There will be no relief for them.

That is the way the real world works, vector. It is how most Democrats and most Republicans govern. Convincing gullible people like you that the other party is to blame for all of your problems and ills of society is the Washington swamp's business model.

If he does pass any taxes on businesses at least they will pay some seem like they do a lot better when conservatives are in charge can't deny that i have no problems have done pretty good but i have paid my share of taxes unlike the corporations you like to take up for

Businesses do better when conservatives are in charge because they make it easier for businesses to create jobs and make profits. It is a win-win for owners and employees. So, what you are saying is that you prefer that businesses struggle? Yeah, I can see how that would make a whole lot of sense to a fella such as yourself. 

Businesses are forced to operate the way that they do because they are constantly getting shaken down by politicians. I would much rather eliminate the corporate income taxes on all businesses and see American businesses boom without having to shell out fortunes for lobbyists, tax lawyers, and armies of accountants. We would all be better off if we could free businesses from the oppression of greedy, corrupt politicians.

I hope that I have opened your eyes to the fact that corporations minimize their tax burdens regardless of the political beliefs of their owners. I do believe that Americans are generally better off when businesses spend money than when the government spends money.

[vector#1]

You're wrong, vector, as usual and as usual, not man enough to own your mistake. 

Corporations take advantage of tax laws as they are written. It doesn't matter if the corporation is owned by a flaming liberal like Bezos or a conservative like Mike Lindell. Their accountants and CFOs' jobs are to legally minimize the corporations' tax bills. 

Corporate income taxes should be eliminated entirely and we would all be better off. Both employees of corporations and shareholders pay taxes on the income that they derive from corporations. The big corporations that you demonize provide millions of well paying jobs and they pay trillions of dollars in other types of taxes, licenses, and other fees to local, state, and federal governments.

I am no fan of Jeff Bezos and his left wing politics but he has done millions of times more for his country than you or I have. Bezos also intends to spend a large portion of his personal fortune investing in the infrastructure that future generations will use to mine the asteroids. I appreciate what he has done for this country, just as I appreciate what Trump has done for this country. I wish that Bezos had worked with Trump instead of against him, but it is a free country.

corporations take advantage of tax laws that was written by conservatives the last 40 years FACT
if you had taken a little time they now have it where they are paying NO federal taxes in FACT they are given refunds
as far as paying other taxes the only ones they are paying now is the payroll taxes but i bet in the next 10 years they are going to try to weasel out of them if the Turd had not been throwed out that was one of his next step
as far as creating jobs you and i see this very different i believe the consumer creates the jobs and you the rich people 
i don't think you can create or add one job without the consumer this country did very well before the conservatives started cutting taxes in fact we had a thriving middle class now it's just about gone

You've bought into all of the big lies that the liberal politicians have told you, vector. That's really sad. The truth is that every large corporation and industry lobbies Congress to pass favorable legislation. Some of those Representatives and Senators are Democrats and some are Republicans. Sometimes the president is a Democrat and sometimes he is a Republican. It doesn't matter, lobbyists do what lobbyists do. Politicians get elected by convincing people like you that all of the evil in the world is caused by the other party. It has obviously worked like a charm in your case. You are a Democrat politician's dream voter.

Here is what is going to happen over the coming months. Joe Biden will pass huge tax increases and burdensome regulations on businesses and those businesses will send their lobbyists to the PACs and other organiza tions that manage the Democrats' slush funds. In exchange, some pork barrel spending will be buried in some bills that will ease some of the burden on those businesses. The big losers will be small businesses that cannot afford high paid lobbyists to go meet with Biden and their representatives in Congress. There will be no relief for them.

That is the way the real world works, vector. It is how most Democrats and most Republicans govern. Convincing gullible people like you that the other party is to blame for all of your problems and ills of society is the Washington swamp's business model.

If he does pass any taxes on businesses at least they will pay some seem like they do a lot better when conservatives are in charge can't deny that i have no problems have done pretty good but i have paid my share of taxes unlike the corporations you like to take up for

Businesses do better when conservatives are in charge because they make it easier for businesses to create jobs and make profits. It is a win-win for owners and employees. So, what you are saying is that you prefer that businesses struggle? Yeah, I can see how that would make a whole lot of sense to a fella such as yourself. 

Businesses are forced to operate the way that they do because they are constantly getting shaken down by politicians. I would much rather eliminate the corporate income taxes on all businesses and see American businesses boom without having to shell out fortunes for lobbyists, tax lawyers, and armies of accountants. We would all be better off if we could free businesses from the oppression of greedy, corrupt politicians.

I hope that I have opened your eyes to the fact that corporations minimize their tax burdens regardless of the political beliefs of their owners. I do believe that Americans are generally better off when businesses spend money than when the government spends money.

you have probably done good when government spend money don't you get your check from uncle sam ?
businesses don't create jobs the consumer does at least they won't for long with no consumer
as far as what i have showed you they have eliminated the corporate tax 
and the economy does better when a democrat is in charge

[Hoot Gibson]

corporations take advantage of tax laws that was written by conservatives the last 40 years FACT
if you had taken a little time they now have it where they are paying NO federal taxes in FACT they are given refunds
as far as paying other taxes the only ones they are paying now is the payroll taxes but i bet in the next 10 years they are going to try to weasel out of them if the Turd had not been throwed out that was one of his next step
as far as creating jobs you and i see this very different i believe the consumer creates the jobs and you the rich people 
i don't think you can create or add one job without the consumer this country did very well before the conservatives started cutting taxes in fact we had a thriving middle class now it's just about gone

You've bought into all of the big lies that the liberal politicians have told you, vector. That's really sad. The truth is that every large corporation and industry lobbies Congress to pass favorable legislation. Some of those Representatives and Senators are Democrats and some are Republicans. Sometimes the president is a Democrat and sometimes he is a Republican. It doesn't matter, lobbyists do what lobbyists do. Politicians get elected by convincing people like you that all of the evil in the world is caused by the other party. It has obviously worked like a charm in your case. You are a Democrat politician's dream voter.

Here is what is going to happen over the coming months. Joe Biden will pass huge tax increases and burdensome regulations on businesses and those businesses will send their lobbyists to the PACs and other organiza tions that manage the Democrats' slush funds. In exchange, some pork barrel spending will be buried in some bills that will ease some of the burden on those businesses. The big losers will be small businesses that cannot afford high paid lobbyists to go meet with Biden and their representatives in Congress. There will be no relief for them.

That is the way the real world works, vector. It is how most Democrats and most Republicans govern. Convincing gullible people like you that the other party is to blame for all of your problems and ills of society is the Washington swamp's business model.

If he does pass any taxes on businesses at least they will pay some seem like they do a lot better when conservatives are in charge can't deny that i have no problems have done pretty good but i have paid my share of taxes unlike the corporations you like to take up for

Businesses do better when conservatives are in charge because they make it easier for businesses to create jobs and make profits. It is a win-win for owners and employees. So, what you are saying is that you prefer that businesses struggle? Yeah, I can see how that would make a whole lot of sense to a fella such as yourself. 

Businesses are forced to operate the way that they do because they are constantly getting shaken down by politicians. I would much rather eliminate the corporate income taxes on all businesses and see American businesses boom without having to shell out fortunes for lobbyists, tax lawyers, and armies of accountants. We would all be better off if we could free businesses from the oppression of greedy, corrupt politicians.

I hope that I have opened your eyes to the fact that corporations minimize their tax burdens regardless of the political beliefs of their owners. I do believe that Americans are generally better off when businesses spend money than when the government spends money.

you have probably done good when government spend money don't you get your check from uncle sam ?
businesses don't create jobs the consumer does at least they won't for long with no consumer
as far as what i have showed you they have eliminated the corporate tax 
and the economy does better when a democrat is in charge

My checks are none of your business but if they did come from Uncle Sam, then my opinion would be the same. The corporate income tax has not been eliminated. What are you rambling on about? Businesses do create jobs. Of course, businesses need consumers but higher costs imposed on businesses by the government are passed on to consumers, which means that there is less consumption taking place.

It is a common liberal fallacy that the government punishes corporations by raising their costs through higher taxes, fines, and regulation. Corporations pass costs to their customers. When they reach the point where they are unable to pass costs to customers, businesses close their doors.

[vector#1]

Well this is the end of the Durham witch hunt

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-law...rham-probe

[Hoot Gibson]

Well this is the end of the Durham witch hunt

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-law...rham-probe

Are you illiterate? Durham has expanded his team of prosecutors according to the article that you linked. The Biden administration may interfere with Durham's work and pressure him into whitewashing the entire conspiracy against Trump, but the article that you linked does not support your conclusion. Neither did the embedded video.

It's always a good idea to read the articles and/or videos that you link before trying to use them to support your opinion - just in case other people decide to follow your links and read or watch for themselves. Otherwise, you risk looking like a fool.

[Cardfan1]

Well this is the end of the Durham witch hunt

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-law...rham-probe

You mean that is it?! 

What a disappointment.  

I'm sure we could dig up a thread where Hooter said everybody was going to jail.  

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So add Obamagate to the list.

Time to hush that up.