[Old School Hound]

What is considered conservative in today's GOP?

According to principled conservative Senator Ben Sasse(R-Neb), he knows what conservatism is not.  In a video directed at members of Nebraska's State Central Committee, who has threatened him with another censure, Sasse said, " Personality cults aren't conservative, conspiracy theories aren't conservative, lying that an election has been stolen is not conservative, acting like politics is a religion; it isn't conservative. "

Sasse continued, "  You are welcome to censure me again. But let's be clear why this is happening. It's because I still believe, as you used to, that politics isn't about the weird worship of one dude.  The party could purge Trump skeptics, but I'd like to convince you that, not only is that civic cancer for the nation, it's just terrible for our party."   

Sasse concluded by saying that the Republican party must be willing to change. He said the GOP must choose between conservatism and madness ,   between  just trolling,  and actually persuading , the rising generation of Americans.  


What are your thoughts?  Sasse says he has been reprimanded for not being "Trumpy."   If you are a Republican, which is more important to you- being a true conservative or being a "weird worshipper of one dude" ?

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Would Ronald Wilson Reagan's brand of conservatism embrace :

personality cults
conspiracy theories
lying about an election being stolen
acting like politics is a religion ???

At what point did this party start heading off the rails from conservatism to madness?

[The Outsider]

It's all about trying to get reelected.  I would say that a good 95% of the Trump followers in the Senate and
congress know that he is delusional, but are more interested in getting his cult's vote than in doing what is right for the country. :@

[Hoot Gibson]

Ronald Reagan believed in voting for the most conservative candidate who is electable. That is also my voting strategy. Reagan also did not believe in stabbing other Republicans in the back, which is why he commanded such loyalty from his political allies. Reagan would not have been happy about Sasse's comments about the scheduled impeachment trial, nor would he have approved of Sasse blaming Trump for the storming of the Capitol.

Sasse has been very vocal in his public criticism of Trump throughout his first term. He could have and should have disagreed with Trump on policy without being disagreeable. Now, he is paying a political cost and rightfully so.

[Old School Hound]

It's all about trying to get reelected.  I would say that a good 95% of the Trump followers in the Senate and
congress know that he is delusional, but are more interested in getting his cult's vote than in doing what is right for the country.

I forget which lawmaker said it but he said not one single one of his Republican colleagues in the Senate believed the stuff that Trump was espousing. They would not say that publicly but in private they knew he was nuts. All about politics, as you stated. The problem is, by not coming forward publicly and putting an end to these crazy conspiracies, they risk losing their party to this madness. It may already be too late.

[vector#1]

Ronald Reagan believed in voting for the most conservative candidate who is electable. That is also my voting strategy. Reagan also did not believe in stabbing other Republicans in the back, which is why he commanded such loyalty from his political allies. Reagan would not have been happy about Sasse's comments about the scheduled impeachment trial, nor would he have approved of Sasse blaming Trump for the storming of the Capitol.

Sasse has been very vocal in his public criticism of Trump throughout his first term. He could have and should have disagreed with Trump on policy without being disagreeable. Now, he is paying a political cost and rightfully so.

Ronald Reagan would not voted for Trump he would more than likely write some one in 
But we will never no for sure unless you can produce your time machine and ask him 
Quooter

[Hoot Gibson]

Ronald Reagan believed in voting for the most conservative candidate who is electable. That is also my voting strategy. Reagan also did not believe in stabbing other Republicans in the back, which is why he commanded such loyalty from his political allies. Reagan would not have been happy about Sasse's comments about the scheduled impeachment trial, nor would he have approved of Sasse blaming Trump for the storming of the Capitol.

Sasse has been very vocal in his public criticism of Trump throughout his first term. He could have and should have disagreed with Trump on policy without being disagreeable. Now, he is paying a political cost and rightfully so.

Ronald Reagan would not voted for Trump he would more than likely write some one in 
But we will never no for sure unless you can produce your time machine and ask him 
Quooter

Comrade vector, I feel it is safe to assume that Ronald Reagan would not have voted for traitor China Joe or traitor Hillary Clinton. Based on his public statements on what he considered to be a political ally, I think it is very likely that Reagan would have voted for Trump twice. He once said that you should call a person who disagreed with you 20 percent of the time an ally.

[Old School Hound]

Ronald Reagan believed in voting for the most conservative candidate who is electable. That is also my voting strategy. Reagan also did not believe in stabbing other Republicans in the back, which is why he commanded such loyalty from his political allies. Reagan would not have been happy about Sasse's comments about the scheduled impeachment trial, nor would he have approved of Sasse blaming Trump for the storming of the Capitol.

Sasse has been very vocal in his public criticism of Trump throughout his first term. He could have and should have disagreed with Trump on policy without being disagreeable. Now, he is paying a political cost and rightfully so.

Ronald Reagan would not voted for Trump he would more than likely write some one in 
But we will never no for sure unless you can produce your time machine and ask him 
Quooter

I think it's a safe assumption that Reagan would have not voted for Trump.  The list of conservatives or centrist Republicans who either voted for Biden or didn't vote for Trump is longer than I have time to list. Just a few who come to mind:  Longtime conservative columnists George Will and William Kristol.   Also, you had Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan, MA Gov. Charlie Baker, Vermont Gov. Phil Scott, Mitt Romney,  John Bolton, William McRaven, Colin Powell, Carly Fiorina, John Kasich, Rick Snyder, Jeff Flake, Miles Taylor, James Mattis, John Kelly, Tom Ridge, Cindy McCain, Marc Racicot, Michael Steele, Lisa Murkowski, George W. Bush, Jeb Bush , Hoot Gibson.

[Hoot Gibson]

Ronald Reagan believed in voting for the most conservative candidate who is electable. That is also my voting strategy. Reagan also did not believe in stabbing other Republicans in the back, which is why he commanded such loyalty from his political allies. Reagan would not have been happy about Sasse's comments about the scheduled impeachment trial, nor would he have approved of Sasse blaming Trump for the storming of the Capitol.

Sasse has been very vocal in his public criticism of Trump throughout his first term. He could have and should have disagreed with Trump on policy without being disagreeable. Now, he is paying a political cost and rightfully so.

Ronald Reagan would not voted for Trump he would more than likely write some one in 
But we will never no for sure unless you can produce your time machine and ask him 
Quooter

I think it's a safe assumption that Reagan would have not voted for Trump.  The list of conservatives or centrist Republicans who either voted for Biden or didn't vote for Trump is longer than I have time to list. Just a few who come to mind:  Longtime conservative columnists George Will and William Kristol.   Also, you had Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan, MA Gov. Charlie Baker, Vermont Gov. Phil Scott, Mitt Romney,  John Bolton, William McRaven, Colin Powell, Carly Fiorina, John Kasich, Rick Snyder, Jeff Flake, Miles Taylor, James Mattis, John Kelly, Tom Ridge, Cindy McCain, Marc Racicot, Michael Steele, Lisa Murkowski, George W. Bush, Jeb Bush , Hoot Gibson.

Your list is a who's who of liberal Republicans. Powell recently left the party officially, BTW. Over 74 million Americans voted for Trump, included almost all conservatives who voted in the election. Reagan would not have betrayed his own party. There is no way that he would have played any part of putting a socialist in the White House. He did not fight the Cold War for three decades for nothing.

[Cardfan1]

Sounds like this party is going to split into a group of people standing in reality and have the country’s best interest at heart and the loonies, kooks, nuts, and traitors Hooter aligns with.

[Hoot Gibson]

Sounds like this party is going to split into a group of people standing in reality and have the country’s best interest at heart and the loonies, kooks, nuts, and traitors Hooter aligns with.

Comrade Cardfan, why do you persist in posting one lie after another? You voted for the traitor, China Joe, a man who has grown very wealthy through the acceptance of bribes. You do not have this country's best interests at heart and you prove that to be the case with nearly every post that you make. Still, I do find the perspective of one living as a communist in our great country interesting. Thanks for sharing.

[vector#1]

Ronald Reagan believed in voting for the most conservative candidate who is electable. That is also my voting strategy. Reagan also did not believe in stabbing other Republicans in the back, which is why he commanded such loyalty from his political allies. Reagan would not have been happy about Sasse's comments about the scheduled impeachment trial, nor would he have approved of Sasse blaming Trump for the storming of the Capitol.

Sasse has been very vocal in his public criticism of Trump throughout his first term. He could have and should have disagreed with Trump on policy without being disagreeable. Now, he is paying a political cost and rightfully so.

Ronald Reagan would not voted for Trump he would more than likely write some one in 
But we will never no for sure unless you can produce your time machine and ask him 
Quooter

Comrade vector, I feel it is safe to assume that Ronald Reagan would not have voted for traitor China Joe or traitor Hillary Clinton. Based on his public statements on what he considered to be a political ally, I think it is very likely that Reagan would have voted for Trump twice. He once said that you should call a person who disagreed with you 20 percent of the time an ally.

Quooter for someone who claims with no proof that our Great President Biden is in bed with China
He sure isn't showing it
Pentagon launches new task force to examine China threat (msn.com)

US South China Sea Exercises Signal Biden Stance Against Beijing's Claims - Bloomberg

Trump let China run circles around America and now pretends to be tough (usatoday.com)

Just ask yourself what happened on jan 6th would that happened with no Trump

[Hoot Gibson]

Ronald Reagan believed in voting for the most conservative candidate who is electable. That is also my voting strategy. Reagan also did not believe in stabbing other Republicans in the back, which is why he commanded such loyalty from his political allies. Reagan would not have been happy about Sasse's comments about the scheduled impeachment trial, nor would he have approved of Sasse blaming Trump for the storming of the Capitol.

Sasse has been very vocal in his public criticism of Trump throughout his first term. He could have and should have disagreed with Trump on policy without being disagreeable. Now, he is paying a political cost and rightfully so.

Ronald Reagan would not voted for Trump he would more than likely write some one in 
But we will never no for sure unless you can produce your time machine and ask him 
Quooter

Comrade vector, I feel it is safe to assume that Ronald Reagan would not have voted for traitor China Joe or traitor Hillary Clinton. Based on his public statements on what he considered to be a political ally, I think it is very likely that Reagan would have voted for Trump twice. He once said that you should call a person who disagreed with you 20 percent of the time an ally.

Quooter for someone who claims with no proof that our Great President Biden is in bed with China
He sure isn't showing it
Pentagon launches new task force to examine China threat (msn.com)

US South China Sea Exercises Signal Biden Stance Against Beijing's Claims - Bloomberg

Trump let China run circles around America and now pretends to be tough (usatoday.com)

Just ask yourself what happened on jan 6th would that happened with no Trump

Comrade vector, you are a serial liar. I don't have the time nor the desire to continuously repost evidence that I have already provided. China Joe is owned by the People's Republic. Biden has taken many actions already that benefit China at the expense of American taxpayer. Don't count on one of those "millions of green jobs" that socialists constantly promise and then fail to deliver. Driving American energy prices through the roof will give China's economy a tremendous boost.

As for your last statement, it will not make sense no matter how many times you post it. It's like saying there would be no crime in Detroit if the city if its entire population moved to Lansing. You apparently have no understanding of cause and effect, no desire to understand it, and no inclination to tell the truth.

[vector#1]

Ronald Reagan believed in voting for the most conservative candidate who is electable. That is also my voting strategy. Reagan also did not believe in stabbing other Republicans in the back, which is why he commanded such loyalty from his political allies. Reagan would not have been happy about Sasse's comments about the scheduled impeachment trial, nor would he have approved of Sasse blaming Trump for the storming of the Capitol.

Sasse has been very vocal in his public criticism of Trump throughout his first term. He could have and should have disagreed with Trump on policy without being disagreeable. Now, he is paying a political cost and rightfully so.

Ronald Reagan would not voted for Trump he would more than likely write some one in 
But we will never no for sure unless you can produce your time machine and ask him 
Quooter

Comrade vector, I feel it is safe to assume that Ronald Reagan would not have voted for traitor China Joe or traitor Hillary Clinton. Based on his public statements on what he considered to be a political ally, I think it is very likely that Reagan would have voted for Trump twice. He once said that you should call a person who disagreed with you 20 percent of the time an ally.

Quooter for someone who claims with no proof that our Great President Biden is in bed with China
He sure isn't showing it
Pentagon launches new task force to examine China threat (msn.com)

US South China Sea Exercises Signal Biden Stance Against Beijing's Claims - Bloomberg

Trump let China run circles around America and now pretends to be tough (usatoday.com)

Just ask yourself what happened on jan 6th would that happened with no Trump

Comrade vector, you are a serial liar. I don't have the time nor the desire to continuously repost evidence that I have already provided. China Joe is owned by the People's Republic. Biden has taken many actions already that benefit China at the expense of American taxpayer. Don't count on one of those "millions of green jobs" that socialists constantly promise and then fail to deliver. Driving American energy prices through the roof will give China's economy a tremendous boost.

As for your last statement, it will not make sense no matter how many times you post it. It's like saying there would be no crime in Detroit if the city if its entire population moved to Lansing. You apparently have no understanding of cause and effect, no desire to understand it, and no inclination to tell the truth.

Bingo your back in the corner again
There would be no crime in Detroit after  the entire population moved to Lansing but what happened before they moved
Now let's try this again Quooter would the crimes that happened on jan 6th without Trump ?
I say NO

[Hoot Gibson]

Ronald Reagan would not voted for Trump he would more than likely write some one in 
But we will never no for sure unless you can produce your time machine and ask him 
Quooter

Comrade vector, I feel it is safe to assume that Ronald Reagan would not have voted for traitor China Joe or traitor Hillary Clinton. Based on his public statements on what he considered to be a political ally, I think it is very likely that Reagan would have voted for Trump twice. He once said that you should call a person who disagreed with you 20 percent of the time an ally.

Quooter for someone who claims with no proof that our Great President Biden is in bed with China
He sure isn't showing it
Pentagon launches new task force to examine China threat (msn.com)

US South China Sea Exercises Signal Biden Stance Against Beijing's Claims - Bloomberg

Trump let China run circles around America and now pretends to be tough (usatoday.com)

Just ask yourself what happened on jan 6th would that happened with no Trump

Comrade vector, you are a serial liar. I don't have the time nor the desire to continuously repost evidence that I have already provided. China Joe is owned by the People's Republic. Biden has taken many actions already that benefit China at the expense of American taxpayer. Don't count on one of those "millions of green jobs" that socialists constantly promise and then fail to deliver. Driving American energy prices through the roof will give China's economy a tremendous boost.

As for your last statement, it will not make sense no matter how many times you post it. It's like saying there would be no crime in Detroit if the city if its entire population moved to Lansing. You apparently have no understanding of cause and effect, no desire to understand it, and no inclination to tell the truth.

Bingo your back in the corner again
There would be no crime in Detroit after  the entire population moved to Lansing but what happened before they moved
Now let's try this again Quooter would the crimes that happened on jan 6th without Trump ?
I say NO

How many times are you going to post your illogical question, Comrade vector? Trump is the victim. He is the subject of an unconstitutional trial by a court that has no jurisdiction over him. Repetition is the hallmark of effective propaganda but the points that you repeat have got to make some sense the first time you utter them. Maybe you should try honesty for a change. Truth is effective without the need to constantly repeat it and remember what you said before.

[vector#1]

Comrade vector, I feel it is safe to assume that Ronald Reagan would not have voted for traitor China Joe or traitor Hillary Clinton. Based on his public statements on what he considered to be a political ally, I think it is very likely that Reagan would have voted for Trump twice. He once said that you should call a person who disagreed with you 20 percent of the time an ally.

Quooter for someone who claims with no proof that our Great President Biden is in bed with China
He sure isn't showing it
Pentagon launches new task force to examine China threat (msn.com)

US South China Sea Exercises Signal Biden Stance Against Beijing's Claims - Bloomberg

Trump let China run circles around America and now pretends to be tough (usatoday.com)

Just ask yourself what happened on jan 6th would that happened with no Trump

Comrade vector, you are a serial liar. I don't have the time nor the desire to continuously repost evidence that I have already provided. China Joe is owned by the People's Republic. Biden has taken many actions already that benefit China at the expense of American taxpayer. Don't count on one of those "millions of green jobs" that socialists constantly promise and then fail to deliver. Driving American energy prices through the roof will give China's economy a tremendous boost.

As for your last statement, it will not make sense no matter how many times you post it. It's like saying there would be no crime in Detroit if the city if its entire population moved to Lansing. You apparently have no understanding of cause and effect, no desire to understand it, and no inclination to tell the truth.

Bingo your back in the corner again
There would be no crime in Detroit after  the entire population moved to Lansing but what happened before they moved
Now let's try this again Quooter would the crimes that happened on jan 6th without Trump ?
I say NO

How many times are you going to post your illogical question, Comrade vector? Trump is the victim. He is the subject of an unconstitutional trial by a court that has no jurisdiction over him. Repetition is the hallmark of effective propaganda but the points that you repeat have got to make some sense the first time you utter them. Maybe you should try honesty for a change. Truth is effective without the need to constantly repeat it and remember what you said before.

Bingo your back in the corner
When you can honestly and truthfully answer if Trump had not lied to his flock for 2 months would it had happened
I say NO
I guess that Repetition would also include telling your flock over and over the election was stolen 
The senators voted yesterday the impeachment IS Constitutional 56 to 44 that's the only ones that matter that's why the trial is going on today try to keep up Quooter

[Hoot Gibson]

Quooter for someone who claims with no proof that our Great President Biden is in bed with China
He sure isn't showing it
Pentagon launches new task force to examine China threat (msn.com)

US South China Sea Exercises Signal Biden Stance Against Beijing's Claims - Bloomberg

Trump let China run circles around America and now pretends to be tough (usatoday.com)

Just ask yourself what happened on jan 6th would that happened with no Trump

Comrade vector, you are a serial liar. I don't have the time nor the desire to continuously repost evidence that I have already provided. China Joe is owned by the People's Republic. Biden has taken many actions already that benefit China at the expense of American taxpayer. Don't count on one of those "millions of green jobs" that socialists constantly promise and then fail to deliver. Driving American energy prices through the roof will give China's economy a tremendous boost.

As for your last statement, it will not make sense no matter how many times you post it. It's like saying there would be no crime in Detroit if the city if its entire population moved to Lansing. You apparently have no understanding of cause and effect, no desire to understand it, and no inclination to tell the truth.

Bingo your back in the corner again
There would be no crime in Detroit after  the entire population moved to Lansing but what happened before they moved
Now let's try this again Quooter would the crimes that happened on jan 6th without Trump ?
I say NO

How many times are you going to post your illogical question, Comrade vector? Trump is the victim. He is the subject of an unconstitutional trial by a court that has no jurisdiction over him. Repetition is the hallmark of effective propaganda but the points that you repeat have got to make some sense the first time you utter them. Maybe you should try honesty for a change. Truth is effective without the need to constantly repeat it and remember what you said before.

Bingo your back in the corner
When you can honestly and truthfully answer if Trump had not lied to his flock for 2 months would it had happened
I say NO
I guess that Repetition would also include telling your flock over and over the election was stolen 
The senators voted yesterday the impeachment IS Constitutional 56 to 44 that's the only ones that matter that's why the trial is going on today try to keep up Quooter

The Senate cannot overturn the U.S. Constitution with a vote. If Trump were to be convicted, then the Supreme Court would decide. Chief Justice Roberts seems to have already voted with his feet.