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Papers, please. China Joe looks at domestic travel restrictions
#1
The authoritarian who occupies the Oval Office considers restricting the travel of American citizens within our own country. Obviously, illegal immigrants in this country at China Joe's personal invitation will not be impacted in any way. The royal First Family, including crackhead son, Hunter, would also presumably be exempt from travel restrictions. 

Quote:White House looks at domestic travel restrictions as COVID mutation surges in Florida

The Biden administration is considering whether to impose domestic travel restrictions, including on Florida, fearful that coronavirus mutations are threatening to reverse hard-fought progress on the pandemic.

Outbreaks of the new variants — including a highly contagious one first identified in the United Kingdom, as well as others from South Africa and Brazil that scientists worry can evade existing vaccines — have lent urgency to a review of potential travel restrictions within the United States, one federal official said.

Discussions in the administration over potential travel restrictions do not target a specific state but focus on how to prevent the spread of variants that appear to be surging in a number of states, including Florida and California.
#2
Hooter, you afraid Uncle Joe is going to get your Disney Spring Break

Maybe Ronny should quit cooking the books and do things right.
#3
(02-11-2021, 12:22 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Hooter, you afraid Uncle Joe is going to get your Disney Spring Break

Maybe Ronny should quit cooking the books and do things right.
Comrade Cardfan, you need to understand that we live in a republic, with a federal government. Having a president in office for whom you voted is no excuse for supporting a dictator. 52 Executive Orders and counting without a single legislative accomplishment. Meanwhile, the Democrat-controlled Congress is wasting time and money conducting a sham trial of a private U.S. citizen over whom they have no legal jurisdication.
#4
Clutch those pearls, Hooter. Takes a good pen to exorcise the Trump presidency :D
Joe would have had to start using his left hand if Trumpster wouldn’t have golfed away half his presidency.

Travel restriction is a pretty common when tactic fighting a Pandemic: rest of the world has been doing it and didn’t lose 500k+ citizens.
#5
(02-11-2021, 01:01 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Clutch those pearls, Hooter.  Takes a good pen to exorcise the Trump presidency Big Grin
Joe would have had to start using his left hand if Trumpster wouldn’t have golfed away half his presidency.

Travel restriction is a pretty common when tactic fighting a Pandemic:  rest of the world has been doing it and didn’t lose 500k+ citizens.
Comrade Cardfan, national travel restrictions may be normal in the People's Republic but it is very uncommon in the United States of America. Of course, there is a precedent for imposing national domestic travel bans. FDR rounded up Japanese Americans and placed them into concentration camps during World War II.

If China Joe implements domestic travel restrictions, his goal will be to drag the economies of free states with Republican governments down to the level of states like New York and California.
#6
(02-11-2021, 01:26 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-11-2021, 01:01 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Clutch those pearls, Hooter.  Takes a good pen to exorcise the Trump presidency Big Grin
Joe would have had to start using his left hand if Trumpster wouldn’t have golfed away half his presidency.

Travel restriction is a pretty common when tactic fighting a Pandemic:  rest of the world has been doing it and didn’t lose 500k+ citizens.
Comrade Cardfan, national travel restrictions may be normal in the People's Republic but it is very uncommon in the United States of America. Of course, there is a precedent for imposing national domestic travel bans. FDR rounded up Japanese Americans and placed them into concentration camps during World War II.

If China Joe implements domestic travel restrictions, his goal will be to drag the economies of free states with Republican governments down to the level of states like New York and California.
Big Grin 
Drag red state economies down!!!


Hell, he’s trying to get this pandemic over so Blue states can open back up and pay the red state bills again.
#7
(02-11-2021, 02:01 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(02-11-2021, 01:26 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-11-2021, 01:01 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Clutch those pearls, Hooter.  Takes a good pen to exorcise the Trump presidency Big Grin
Joe would have had to start using his left hand if Trumpster wouldn’t have golfed away half his presidency.

Travel restriction is a pretty common when tactic fighting a Pandemic:  rest of the world has been doing it and didn’t lose 500k+ citizens.
Comrade Cardfan, national travel restrictions may be normal in the People's Republic but it is very uncommon in the United States of America. Of course, there is a precedent for imposing national domestic travel bans. FDR rounded up Japanese Americans and placed them into concentration camps during World War II.

If China Joe implements domestic travel restrictions, his goal will be to drag the economies of free states with Republican governments down to the level of states like New York and California.
Big Grin 
Drag red state economies down!!!


Hell, he’s trying to get this pandemic over so Blue states can open back up and pay the red state bills again.
Comrade Cardfan, the so-called COVID-19 bill is a blue state bailout plan. Democrat governors have crippled their own states' economies, and China Joe wants to bail them out and impose their job-killing policies on the free states.
#8
(02-11-2021, 02:25 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-11-2021, 02:01 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(02-11-2021, 01:26 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-11-2021, 01:01 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Clutch those pearls, Hooter.  Takes a good pen to exorcise the Trump presidency Big Grin
Joe would have had to start using his left hand if Trumpster wouldn’t have golfed away half his presidency.

Travel restriction is a pretty common when tactic fighting a Pandemic:  rest of the world has been doing it and didn’t lose 500k+ citizens.
Comrade Cardfan, national travel restrictions may be normal in the People's Republic but it is very uncommon in the United States of America. Of course, there is a precedent for imposing national domestic travel bans. FDR rounded up Japanese Americans and placed them into concentration camps during World War II.

If China Joe implements domestic travel restrictions, his goal will be to drag the economies of free states with Republican governments down to the level of states like New York and California.
Big Grin 
Drag red state economies down!!!


Hell, he’s trying to get this pandemic over so Blue states can open back up and pay the red state bills again.
Comrade Cardfan, the so-called COVID-19 bill is a blue state bailout plan. Democrat governors have crippled their own states' economies, and China Joe wants to bail them out and impose their job-killing policies on the free states.
Good.  They attempted to save their citizens in the largest population centers in the nation. 

So what is the red state excuse in every year that isn’t a pandemic?
#9
(02-11-2021, 02:46 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(02-11-2021, 02:25 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-11-2021, 02:01 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(02-11-2021, 01:26 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-11-2021, 01:01 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Clutch those pearls, Hooter.  Takes a good pen to exorcise the Trump presidency Big Grin
Joe would have had to start using his left hand if Trumpster wouldn’t have golfed away half his presidency.

Travel restriction is a pretty common when tactic fighting a Pandemic:  rest of the world has been doing it and didn’t lose 500k+ citizens.
Comrade Cardfan, national travel restrictions may be normal in the People's Republic but it is very uncommon in the United States of America. Of course, there is a precedent for imposing national domestic travel bans. FDR rounded up Japanese Americans and placed them into concentration camps during World War II.

If China Joe implements domestic travel restrictions, his goal will be to drag the economies of free states with Republican governments down to the level of states like New York and California.
Big Grin 
Drag red state economies down!!!


Hell, he’s trying to get this pandemic over so Blue states can open back up and pay the red state bills again.
Comrade Cardfan, the so-called COVID-19 bill is a blue state bailout plan. Democrat governors have crippled their own states' economies, and China Joe wants to bail them out and impose their job-killing policies on the free states.
Good.  They attempted to save their citizens in the largest population centers in the nation. 

So what is the red state excuse in every year that isn’t a pandemic?
China Joe is trying to go national with the misery that Democrats have spread across the blue states. Democrats cannot just stand by and see their overtaxed citizens pack up and move to red states, where people are working and enjoying life.
#10
(02-12-2021, 05:43 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-11-2021, 02:46 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(02-11-2021, 02:25 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-11-2021, 02:01 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(02-11-2021, 01:26 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: Comrade Cardfan, national travel restrictions may be normal in the People's Republic but it is very uncommon in the United States of America. Of course, there is a precedent for imposing national domestic travel bans. FDR rounded up Japanese Americans and placed them into concentration camps during World War II.

If China Joe implements domestic travel restrictions, his goal will be to drag the economies of free states with Republican governments down to the level of states like New York and California.
Big Grin 
Drag red state economies down!!!


Hell, he’s trying to get this pandemic over so Blue states can open back up and pay the red state bills again.
Comrade Cardfan, the so-called COVID-19 bill is a blue state bailout plan. Democrat governors have crippled their own states' economies, and China Joe wants to bail them out and impose their job-killing policies on the free states.
Good.  They attempted to save their citizens in the largest population centers in the nation. 

So what is the red state excuse in every year that isn’t a pandemic?
China Joe is trying to go national with the misery that Democrats have spread across the blue states. Democrats cannot just stand by and see their overtaxed citizens pack up and move to red states, where people are working and enjoying life.
Let them come.  Maybe Kentucky will turn purple.  Georgia already is.  Texas will turn next cycle.  
Hooter, keep wishing for the blue state exodus;  you lose your EC advantage.  

Nevertheless, an ignorant point when President Biden is trying to do something the Orange Apocalypse didn't: save Americans.   I read yesterday Trump's failures cost us 40% more deaths.  Today that would be 97,000 people:  32 9/11s, 38 Pearl Harbors, and 4th on the list of wars.  Total Incompetence. 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/heal...453762001/
#11
(02-12-2021, 10:54 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 05:43 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-11-2021, 02:46 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(02-11-2021, 02:25 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-11-2021, 02:01 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Big Grin 
Drag red state economies down!!!


Hell, he’s trying to get this pandemic over so Blue states can open back up and pay the red state bills again.
Comrade Cardfan, the so-called COVID-19 bill is a blue state bailout plan. Democrat governors have crippled their own states' economies, and China Joe wants to bail them out and impose their job-killing policies on the free states.
Good.  They attempted to save their citizens in the largest population centers in the nation. 

So what is the red state excuse in every year that isn’t a pandemic?
China Joe is trying to go national with the misery that Democrats have spread across the blue states. Democrats cannot just stand by and see their overtaxed citizens pack up and move to red states, where people are working and enjoying life.
Let them come.  Maybe Kentucky will turn purple.  Georgia already is.  Texas will turn next cycle.  
Hooter, keep wishing for the blue state exodus;  you lose your EC advantage.  

Nevertheless, an ignorant point when President Biden is trying to do something the Orange Apocalypse didn't: save Americans.   I read yesterday Trump's failures cost us 40% more deaths.  Today that would be 97,000 people:  32 9/11s, 38 Pearl Harbors, and 4th on the list of wars.  Total Incompetence. 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/heal...453762001/
If nobody ever left their homes again, the virus would cease to be a threat and gun violence would eventually disappear as well. Would you support such a law, Comrade Cardfan, is China Joe supported it?
#12
(02-12-2021, 12:13 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 10:54 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 05:43 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-11-2021, 02:46 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(02-11-2021, 02:25 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: Comrade Cardfan, the so-called COVID-19 bill is a blue state bailout plan. Democrat governors have crippled their own states' economies, and China Joe wants to bail them out and impose their job-killing policies on the free states.
Good.  They attempted to save their citizens in the largest population centers in the nation. 

So what is the red state excuse in every year that isn’t a pandemic?
China Joe is trying to go national with the misery that Democrats have spread across the blue states. Democrats cannot just stand by and see their overtaxed citizens pack up and move to red states, where people are working and enjoying life.
Let them come.  Maybe Kentucky will turn purple.  Georgia already is.  Texas will turn next cycle.  
Hooter, keep wishing for the blue state exodus;  you lose your EC advantage.  

Nevertheless, an ignorant point when President Biden is trying to do something the Orange Apocalypse didn't: save Americans.   I read yesterday Trump's failures cost us 40% more deaths.  Today that would be 97,000 people:  32 9/11s, 38 Pearl Harbors, and 4th on the list of wars.  Total Incompetence. 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/heal...453762001/
If nobody ever left their homes again, the virus would cease to be a threat and gun violence would eventually disappear as well. Would you support such a law, Comrade Cardfan, is China Joe supported it?
Your Boy had his chance to handle the Trump Flu and he failed miserable in fact it cost him 4 more years of being president 
So i guess you could say the only good thing that has come out of the Trump Flu is the end of Trump's president
#13
(02-12-2021, 12:13 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 10:54 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 05:43 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-11-2021, 02:46 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(02-11-2021, 02:25 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: Comrade Cardfan, the so-called COVID-19 bill is a blue state bailout plan. Democrat governors have crippled their own states' economies, and China Joe wants to bail them out and impose their job-killing policies on the free states.
Good.  They attempted to save their citizens in the largest population centers in the nation. 

So what is the red state excuse in every year that isn’t a pandemic?
China Joe is trying to go national with the misery that Democrats have spread across the blue states. Democrats cannot just stand by and see their overtaxed citizens pack up and move to red states, where people are working and enjoying life.
Let them come.  Maybe Kentucky will turn purple.  Georgia already is.  Texas will turn next cycle.  
Hooter, keep wishing for the blue state exodus;  you lose your EC advantage.  

Nevertheless, an ignorant point when President Biden is trying to do something the Orange Apocalypse didn't: save Americans.   I read yesterday Trump's failures cost us 40% more deaths.  Today that would be 97,000 people:  32 9/11s, 38 Pearl Harbors, and 4th on the list of wars.  Total Incompetence. 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/heal...453762001/
If nobody ever left their homes again, the virus would cease to be a threat and gun violence would eventually disappear as well. Would you support such a law, Comrade Cardfan, is China Joe supported it?
Weak fallacy on so many levels.

Your false comparison ignores the fact that the United States under the Trump Administration ---in a demand of freedom (or money)-- has killed half a million people, and doomed who know how many to a painful, shortened life.  It's not close to the rest of the world.   

This administration deserves a shot at trying to slow the spread.  If we have to shutter travel for a few weeks, so be it.  We can't start all over with these variants and be sitting in the same spot we are now starting 2022.   

Technically, even your false comparison isn't true because, sadly, Americans will still shoot themselves and their loved ones.
#14
(02-12-2021, 12:27 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 12:13 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 10:54 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 05:43 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-11-2021, 02:46 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Good.  They attempted to save their citizens in the largest population centers in the nation. 

So what is the red state excuse in every year that isn’t a pandemic?
China Joe is trying to go national with the misery that Democrats have spread across the blue states. Democrats cannot just stand by and see their overtaxed citizens pack up and move to red states, where people are working and enjoying life.
Let them come.  Maybe Kentucky will turn purple.  Georgia already is.  Texas will turn next cycle.  
Hooter, keep wishing for the blue state exodus;  you lose your EC advantage.  

Nevertheless, an ignorant point when President Biden is trying to do something the Orange Apocalypse didn't: save Americans.   I read yesterday Trump's failures cost us 40% more deaths.  Today that would be 97,000 people:  32 9/11s, 38 Pearl Harbors, and 4th on the list of wars.  Total Incompetence. 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/heal...453762001/
If nobody ever left their homes again, the virus would cease to be a threat and gun violence would eventually disappear as well. Would you support such a law, Comrade Cardfan, is China Joe supported it?
Weak fallacy on so many levels.

Your false comparison ignores the fact that the United States under the Trump Administration ---in a demand of freedom (or money)-- has killed half a million people, and doomed who know how many to a painful, shortened life.  It's not close to the rest of the world.   

This administration deserves a shot at trying to slow the spread.  If we have to shutter travel for a few weeks, so be it.  We can't start all over with these variants and be sitting in the same spot we are now starting 2022.   

Technically, even your false comparison isn't true because, sadly, Americans will still shoot themselves and their loved ones.
Comrade Cardfan, you and Comrade vector must have been classmates. Here is your homework for the day. Lookup "fallacy," "analogy," "comparison," "hypothetical," and "scenario" and explain the differences in meaning between the words. You never answered my question, in part, probably because you did not understand it. Pro tip: do not use words in your posts that you do not understand. Before you know it, you will be able to answer questions like the one below using words that you understand.

If nobody ever left their homes again, the virus would cease to be a threat and gun violence would eventually disappear as well. Would you support such a law, Comrade Cardfan, if China Joe supported it?
#15
(02-12-2021, 01:50 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 12:27 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 12:13 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 10:54 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 05:43 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: China Joe is trying to go national with the misery that Democrats have spread across the blue states. Democrats cannot just stand by and see their overtaxed citizens pack up and move to red states, where people are working and enjoying life.
Let them come.  Maybe Kentucky will turn purple.  Georgia already is.  Texas will turn next cycle.  
Hooter, keep wishing for the blue state exodus;  you lose your EC advantage.  

Nevertheless, an ignorant point when President Biden is trying to do something the Orange Apocalypse didn't: save Americans.   I read yesterday Trump's failures cost us 40% more deaths.  Today that would be 97,000 people:  32 9/11s, 38 Pearl Harbors, and 4th on the list of wars.  Total Incompetence. 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/heal...453762001/
If nobody ever left their homes again, the virus would cease to be a threat and gun violence would eventually disappear as well. Would you support such a law, Comrade Cardfan, is China Joe supported it?
Weak fallacy on so many levels.

Your false comparison ignores the fact that the United States under the Trump Administration ---in a demand of freedom (or money)-- has killed half a million people, and doomed who know how many to a painful, shortened life.  It's not close to the rest of the world.   

This administration deserves a shot at trying to slow the spread.  If we have to shutter travel for a few weeks, so be it.  We can't start all over with these variants and be sitting in the same spot we are now starting 2022.   

Technically, even your false comparison isn't true because, sadly, Americans will still shoot themselves and their loved ones.
Comrade Cardfan, you and Comrade vector must have been classmates. Here is your homework for the day. Lookup "fallacy," "analogy," "comparison," "hypothetical," and "scenario" and explain the differences in meaning between the words. You never answered my question, in part, probably because you did not understand it. Pro tip: do not use words in your posts that you do not understand. Before you know it, you will be able to answer questions like the one below using words that you understand.

If nobody ever left their homes again, the virus would cease to be a threat and gun violence would eventually disappear as well. Would you support such a law, Comrade Cardfan, if China Joe supported it?
I did answer your question.  It would not disappear.
  Gun Violence and Covid is a weak analogy.  You get that right? 

Also, I am fully aware of the definition of all of those terms, and the usage of each.  Hooter, you are far from a pro.  For one, you obviously don't understand that fallacies undermine your argument.  You use them all the time. 
I don't always point them out, because I come to BGR to have spirited discussion not to school you on rhetoric and mechanics.  To me this is an informal message board, but to each their own I guess.
#16
(02-12-2021, 02:44 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 01:50 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 12:27 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 12:13 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 10:54 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Let them come.  Maybe Kentucky will turn purple.  Georgia already is.  Texas will turn next cycle.  
Hooter, keep wishing for the blue state exodus;  you lose your EC advantage.  

Nevertheless, an ignorant point when President Biden is trying to do something the Orange Apocalypse didn't: save Americans.   I read yesterday Trump's failures cost us 40% more deaths.  Today that would be 97,000 people:  32 9/11s, 38 Pearl Harbors, and 4th on the list of wars.  Total Incompetence. 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/heal...453762001/
If nobody ever left their homes again, the virus would cease to be a threat and gun violence would eventually disappear as well. Would you support such a law, Comrade Cardfan, is China Joe supported it?
Weak fallacy on so many levels.

Your false comparison ignores the fact that the United States under the Trump Administration ---in a demand of freedom (or money)-- has killed half a million people, and doomed who know how many to a painful, shortened life.  It's not close to the rest of the world.   

This administration deserves a shot at trying to slow the spread.  If we have to shutter travel for a few weeks, so be it.  We can't start all over with these variants and be sitting in the same spot we are now starting 2022.   

Technically, even your false comparison isn't true because, sadly, Americans will still shoot themselves and their loved ones.
Comrade Cardfan, you and Comrade vector must have been classmates. Here is your homework for the day. Lookup "fallacy," "analogy," "comparison," "hypothetical," and "scenario" and explain the differences in meaning between the words. You never answered my question, in part, probably because you did not understand it. Pro tip: do not use words in your posts that you do not understand. Before you know it, you will be able to answer questions like the one below using words that you understand.

If nobody ever left their homes again, the virus would cease to be a threat and gun violence would eventually disappear as well. Would you support such a law, Comrade Cardfan, if China Joe supported it?
I did answer your question.  It would not disappear.
  Gun Violence and Covid is a weak analogy.  You get that right? 

Also, I am fully aware of the definition of all of those terms, and the usage of each.  Hooter, you are far from a pro.  For one, you obviously don't understand that fallacies undermine your argument.  You use them all the time. 
I don't always point them out, because I come to BGR to have spirited discussion not to school you on rhetoric and mechanics.  To me this is an informal message board, but to each their own I guess.
You come to BGR to repeat whatever lies that Democrats feed you for the day. I did not present gun violence as an analogy for COVID. You never answered the question. Just how many constitutional rights would you surrender to comply with the edicts of an authoritarian Democrat governor or president? Freedom to travel between states without being harassed by the federal government is a pretty basic right that we enjoy as Americans. Surrendering such a basic right without a fight is one of the things that greased the skids for Hitler's subjugation of Germany.
#17
(02-12-2021, 03:39 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 02:44 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 01:50 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 12:27 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 12:13 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: If nobody ever left their homes again, the virus would cease to be a threat and gun violence would eventually disappear as well. Would you support such a law, Comrade Cardfan, is China Joe supported it?
Weak fallacy on so many levels.

Your false comparison ignores the fact that the United States under the Trump Administration ---in a demand of freedom (or money)-- has killed half a million people, and doomed who know how many to a painful, shortened life.  It's not close to the rest of the world.   

This administration deserves a shot at trying to slow the spread.  If we have to shutter travel for a few weeks, so be it.  We can't start all over with these variants and be sitting in the same spot we are now starting 2022.   

Technically, even your false comparison isn't true because, sadly, Americans will still shoot themselves and their loved ones.
Comrade Cardfan, you and Comrade vector must have been classmates. Here is your homework for the day. Lookup "fallacy," "analogy," "comparison," "hypothetical," and "scenario" and explain the differences in meaning between the words. You never answered my question, in part, probably because you did not understand it. Pro tip: do not use words in your posts that you do not understand. Before you know it, you will be able to answer questions like the one below using words that you understand.

If nobody ever left their homes again, the virus would cease to be a threat and gun violence would eventually disappear as well. Would you support such a law, Comrade Cardfan, if China Joe supported it?
I did answer your question.  It would not disappear.
  Gun Violence and Covid is a weak analogy.  You get that right? 

Also, I am fully aware of the definition of all of those terms, and the usage of each.  Hooter, you are far from a pro.  For one, you obviously don't understand that fallacies undermine your argument.  You use them all the time. 
I don't always point them out, because I come to BGR to have spirited discussion not to school you on rhetoric and mechanics.  To me this is an informal message board, but to each their own I guess.
You come to BGR to repeat whatever lies that Democrats feed you for the day. I did not present gun violence as an analogy for COVID. You never answered the question. Just how many constitutional rights would you surrender to comply with the edicts of an authoritarian Democrat governor or president? Freedom to travel between states without being harassed by the federal government is a pretty basic right that we enjoy as Americans. Surrendering such a basic right without a fight is one of the things that greased the skids for Hitler's subjugation of Germany.

Big Grin 
That’s some irony considering this thread was started by you with a hack article from the kooky Epoch Times.

ok, whatever you say, Hooter.
Are you asking if I would give up guns for the end of gun violence?  
Uhhh yeah. And I like my guns. 

Would I give up interstate travel for a month or so for Covid to go away?  Uhhh yeah. And I want my Spring Break. 

Some of us have given up a lot for this pandemic.  Some of us have not which explains why we are where we are. 

Try not to be too disingenuous, Hooter.  The Biden Administration will coordinate with states much like the Trump administration did the first 15 days of this Pandemic, and this is won’t be the slide into Fascism or Communism that keeps you up at night.

FWIW, you do know those are different sides of the political spectrum, right?

(02-12-2021, 03:39 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 02:44 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 01:50 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 12:27 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 12:13 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: If nobody ever left their homes again, the virus would cease to be a threat and gun violence would eventually disappear as well. Would you support such a law, Comrade Cardfan, is China Joe supported it?
Weak fallacy on so many levels.

Your false comparison ignores the fact that the United States under the Trump Administration ---in a demand of freedom (or money)-- has killed half a million people, and doomed who know how many to a painful, shortened life.  It's not close to the rest of the world.   

This administration deserves a shot at trying to slow the spread.  If we have to shutter travel for a few weeks, so be it.  We can't start all over with these variants and be sitting in the same spot we are now starting 2022.   

Technically, even your false comparison isn't true because, sadly, Americans will still shoot themselves and their loved ones.
Comrade Cardfan, you and Comrade vector must have been classmates. Here is your homework for the day. Lookup "fallacy," "analogy," "comparison," "hypothetical," and "scenario" and explain the differences in meaning between the words. You never answered my question, in part, probably because you did not understand it. Pro tip: do not use words in your posts that you do not understand. Before you know it, you will be able to answer questions like the one below using words that you understand.

If nobody ever left their homes again, the virus would cease to be a threat and gun violence would eventually disappear as well. Would you support such a law, Comrade Cardfan, if China Joe supported it?
I did answer your question.  It would not disappear.
  Gun Violence and Covid is a weak analogy.  You get that right? 

Also, I am fully aware of the definition of all of those terms, and the usage of each.  Hooter, you are far from a pro.  For one, you obviously don't understand that fallacies undermine your argument.  You use them all the time. 
I don't always point them out, because I come to BGR to have spirited discussion not to school you on rhetoric and mechanics.  To me this is an informal message board, but to each their own I guess.
You come to BGR to repeat whatever lies that Democrats feed you for the day. I did not present gun violence as an analogy for COVID. You never answered the question. Just how many constitutional rights would you surrender to comply with the edicts of an authoritarian Democrat governor or president? Freedom to travel between states without being harassed by the federal government is a pretty basic right that we enjoy as Americans. Surrendering such a basic right without a fight is one of the things that greased the skids for Hitler's subjugation of Germany.

Big Grin 
That’s some irony considering this thread was started by you with a hack article from the kooky Epoch Times.

ok, whatever you say, Hooter.
Are you asking if I would give up guns for the end of gun violence?  
Uhhh yeah. And I like my guns. 

Would I give up interstate travel for a month or so for Covid to go away?  Uhhh yeah. And I want my Spring Break. 

Some of us have given up a lot for this pandemic.  Some of us have not which explains why we are where we are. 

Try not to be too disingenuous, Hooter.  The Biden Administration will coordinate with states much like the Trump administration did the first 15 days of this Pandemic, and this is won’t be the slide into Fascism or Communism that keeps you up at night.

FWIW, you do know those are different sides of the political spectrum, right?
#18
(02-12-2021, 04:34 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 03:39 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 02:44 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 01:50 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 12:27 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Weak fallacy on so many levels.

Your false comparison ignores the fact that the United States under the Trump Administration ---in a demand of freedom (or money)-- has killed half a million people, and doomed who know how many to a painful, shortened life.  It's not close to the rest of the world.   

This administration deserves a shot at trying to slow the spread.  If we have to shutter travel for a few weeks, so be it.  We can't start all over with these variants and be sitting in the same spot we are now starting 2022.   

Technically, even your false comparison isn't true because, sadly, Americans will still shoot themselves and their loved ones.
Comrade Cardfan, you and Comrade vector must have been classmates. Here is your homework for the day. Lookup "fallacy," "analogy," "comparison," "hypothetical," and "scenario" and explain the differences in meaning between the words. You never answered my question, in part, probably because you did not understand it. Pro tip: do not use words in your posts that you do not understand. Before you know it, you will be able to answer questions like the one below using words that you understand.

If nobody ever left their homes again, the virus would cease to be a threat and gun violence would eventually disappear as well. Would you support such a law, Comrade Cardfan, if China Joe supported it?
I did answer your question.  It would not disappear.
  Gun Violence and Covid is a weak analogy.  You get that right? 

Also, I am fully aware of the definition of all of those terms, and the usage of each.  Hooter, you are far from a pro.  For one, you obviously don't understand that fallacies undermine your argument.  You use them all the time. 
I don't always point them out, because I come to BGR to have spirited discussion not to school you on rhetoric and mechanics.  To me this is an informal message board, but to each their own I guess.
You come to BGR to repeat whatever lies that Democrats feed you for the day. I did not present gun violence as an analogy for COVID. You never answered the question. Just how many constitutional rights would you surrender to comply with the edicts of an authoritarian Democrat governor or president? Freedom to travel between states without being harassed by the federal government is a pretty basic right that we enjoy as Americans. Surrendering such a basic right without a fight is one of the things that greased the skids for Hitler's subjugation of Germany.

Big Grin 
That’s some irony considering this thread was started by you with a hack article from the kooky Epoch Times.

ok, whatever you say, Hooter.
Are you asking if I would give up guns for the end of gun violence?  
Uhhh yeah. And I like my guns. 

Would I give up interstate travel for a month or so for Covid to go away?  Uhhh yeah. And I want my Spring Break. 

Some of us have given up a lot for this pandemic.  Some of us have not which explains why we are where we are. 

Try not to be too disingenuous, Hooter.  The Biden Administration will coordinate with states much like the Trump administration did the first 15 days of this Pandemic, and this is won’t be the slide into Fascism or Communism that keeps you up at night.

FWIW, you do know those are different sides of the political spectrum, right?
No irony in citing a credible source. CNN and the other media sources that feed you lies are not sources that I frequent. Fascism and communism are not on opposite sides of the political spectrum, which is actually not a straight line with only two extemes anyway. In practice, both are totalitarian systems that oppress the people they rule over. Both systems have brought misery to the fools who have supported them.

Trump encouraged and coordinated with states. Biden is an autocrat. He sees himself as a powerful ruler, which is understandable because he was not democratically elected. There will always be people who are willing to surrender rights for which thousands have died defending. Those people are a menace to a constitutional republic.
#19
(02-12-2021, 04:50 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 04:34 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 03:39 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 02:44 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 01:50 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: Comrade Cardfan, you and Comrade vector must have been classmates. Here is your homework for the day. Lookup "fallacy," "analogy," "comparison," "hypothetical," and "scenario" and explain the differences in meaning between the words. You never answered my question, in part, probably because you did not understand it. Pro tip: do not use words in your posts that you do not understand. Before you know it, you will be able to answer questions like the one below using words that you understand.

If nobody ever left their homes again, the virus would cease to be a threat and gun violence would eventually disappear as well. Would you support such a law, Comrade Cardfan, if China Joe supported it?
I did answer your question.  It would not disappear.
  Gun Violence and Covid is a weak analogy.  You get that right? 

Also, I am fully aware of the definition of all of those terms, and the usage of each.  Hooter, you are far from a pro.  For one, you obviously don't understand that fallacies undermine your argument.  You use them all the time. 
I don't always point them out, because I come to BGR to have spirited discussion not to school you on rhetoric and mechanics.  To me this is an informal message board, but to each their own I guess.
You come to BGR to repeat whatever lies that Democrats feed you for the day. I did not present gun violence as an analogy for COVID. You never answered the question. Just how many constitutional rights would you surrender to comply with the edicts of an authoritarian Democrat governor or president? Freedom to travel between states without being harassed by the federal government is a pretty basic right that we enjoy as Americans. Surrendering such a basic right without a fight is one of the things that greased the skids for Hitler's subjugation of Germany.

Big Grin 
That’s some irony considering this thread was started by you with a hack article from the kooky Epoch Times.

ok, whatever you say, Hooter.
Are you asking if I would give up guns for the end of gun violence?  
Uhhh yeah. And I like my guns. 

Would I give up interstate travel for a month or so for Covid to go away?  Uhhh yeah. And I want my Spring Break. 

Some of us have given up a lot for this pandemic.  Some of us have not which explains why we are where we are. 

Try not to be too disingenuous, Hooter.  The Biden Administration will coordinate with states much like the Trump administration did the first 15 days of this Pandemic, and this is won’t be the slide into Fascism or Communism that keeps you up at night.

FWIW, you do know those are different sides of the political spectrum, right?
No irony in citing a credible source. CNN and the other media sources that feed you lies are not sources that I frequent. Fascism and communism are not on opposite sides of the political spectrum, which is actually not a straight line with only two extemes anyway. In practice, both are totalitarian systems that oppress the people they rule over. Both systems have brought misery to the fools who have supported them.

Trump encouraged and coordinated with states. Biden is an autocrat. He sees himself as a powerful ruler, which is understandable because he was not democratically elected. There will always be people who are willing to surrender rights for which thousands have died defending. Those people are a menace to a constitutional republic.
Epoch times is not a credible source.  


Hooter, you are not as smart as you proclaim to be. 
Research and come back. Do real research.  Not what people tell you.  

you may be one of the most uninformed and fed person I’ve encountered.  I read your posts before you post them daily. 

Trump could have cut the death toll by 40%
 ...he killed 97,000 people.
#20
(02-13-2021, 01:15 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 04:50 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 04:34 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 03:39 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-12-2021, 02:44 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: I did answer your question.  It would not disappear.
  Gun Violence and Covid is a weak analogy.  You get that right? 

Also, I am fully aware of the definition of all of those terms, and the usage of each.  Hooter, you are far from a pro.  For one, you obviously don't understand that fallacies undermine your argument.  You use them all the time. 
I don't always point them out, because I come to BGR to have spirited discussion not to school you on rhetoric and mechanics.  To me this is an informal message board, but to each their own I guess.
You come to BGR to repeat whatever lies that Democrats feed you for the day. I did not present gun violence as an analogy for COVID. You never answered the question. Just how many constitutional rights would you surrender to comply with the edicts of an authoritarian Democrat governor or president? Freedom to travel between states without being harassed by the federal government is a pretty basic right that we enjoy as Americans. Surrendering such a basic right without a fight is one of the things that greased the skids for Hitler's subjugation of Germany.

Big Grin 
That’s some irony considering this thread was started by you with a hack article from the kooky Epoch Times.

ok, whatever you say, Hooter.
Are you asking if I would give up guns for the end of gun violence?  
Uhhh yeah. And I like my guns. 

Would I give up interstate travel for a month or so for Covid to go away?  Uhhh yeah. And I want my Spring Break. 

Some of us have given up a lot for this pandemic.  Some of us have not which explains why we are where we are. 

Try not to be too disingenuous, Hooter.  The Biden Administration will coordinate with states much like the Trump administration did the first 15 days of this Pandemic, and this is won’t be the slide into Fascism or Communism that keeps you up at night.

FWIW, you do know those are different sides of the political spectrum, right?
No irony in citing a credible source. CNN and the other media sources that feed you lies are not sources that I frequent. Fascism and communism are not on opposite sides of the political spectrum, which is actually not a straight line with only two extemes anyway. In practice, both are totalitarian systems that oppress the people they rule over. Both systems have brought misery to the fools who have supported them.

Trump encouraged and coordinated with states. Biden is an autocrat. He sees himself as a powerful ruler, which is understandable because he was not democratically elected. There will always be people who are willing to surrender rights for which thousands have died defending. Those people are a menace to a constitutional republic.
Epoch times is not a credible source.  


Hooter, you are not as smart as you proclaim to be. 
Research and come back. Do real research.  Not what people tell you.  

you may be one of the most uninformed and fed person I’ve encountered.  I read your posts before you post them daily. 

Trump could have cut the death toll by 40%
 ...he killed 97,000 people.
Epoch Times is as credible as any of the sources that you link to, Comrade Cardfan. CNN, msn, Yahoo, ... the list goes on and on. No news source is free of bias and anybody who thinks that they are consuming only truthful, unbiased news is a fool. You are a fool. China Joe has already started using the excuse that things were much worse than expected and blaming Trump for not being able to make good on his campaign promises. Some news sources are worse than others but none of them have a monopoly on the truth and most of them promote their own political views.

Just as Obama blamed all of his failures on former President George W. Bush, Biden is playing the same game. In your limited mind, everything was Trump's fault while he was president and now that Biden is president, everything wrong with the world will continue to be Trump's fault. Your view of the state of the union is a very simple, very dishonest one. You will always be stuck in a backward looking world where Democrats' policy failures are always some Republican's fault.

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