[jetpilot]

... slanderous notions about Republicans


https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/13...75/photo/2


Be sure to look at both slides. Brainwashing is real.

[jetpilot]

Scott Adams
@ScottAdamsSays
·
21h
For Democrats, their top issues are (essentially) hallucinations generated by media disinformation. This is your answer to "How powerful is media brainwashing?" It's this powerful.

[jetpilot]

Scott Adams Retweeted
Dr. Interracial Flag of United States
@sandyleevincent
·
20h
Scott is 100% right. Brainwashing is very powerful. It’s the root of division, violence, & rioting.
Democrats are psychologically abusing children in schools & colleges with brainwashing.
Critical race theory, 1619, climate change, BLM.

[Old School Hound]

... slanderous notions about Republicans


https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/13...75/photo/2


Be sure to look at both slides. Brainwashing is real.

It sure as hell is .     

[Image: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/image...w&usqp=CAU]

[Cardfan1]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...07965.html


ALL of that stuff isn't a real issue. Antifa? Third Trimester Abortion? Socialism (for the rich, maybe)? Election fraud? Discrimination against Christians? Fake outrage.

The only that is close to a real concern is China.

---

   

I posted the article but this picture must be seen.  Some aren't following their Bible like TRT.

[Cardfan1]

No comments on the first commandment?

Zero.

@TheRealThing

You ?
Issues with idolatry?

[Cardfan1]

Isn’t this a golden calf?

Come on guys?

I comment on your abortion thread and you jump, but nothing on the FACT your side has created an IDOL of Trump. An actual golden calf.


Please keep telling me how God is on your side.

[jetpilot]

You are all over the place. On tilt really. In response to the thread topic you throw up a meme featuring Hitler and wonder why nobody bothers to respond. "Orange man bad" and "fake outrage" is really all you got. Totally intellectually bankrupt replies.

[Cardfan1]

I posted a picture of a golden statue of Trump for CPAC.


A literal idol to Trump...a “golden calf.”

The silence from some folks is hilarious.

Hound posted the meme.

[Hoot Gibson]

It is amazing that there are people in this world that are too stupid to distinguish between a statue and an idol. I don't know the story behind the Trump statue but it may be related to the fact that Democrats in the House have been busy putting together a bill to ensure that no statues of Trump are erected on federal property, as well as outlawing the naming of anything on federal property after Trump.

If Congressional Republicans were wasting the amount of time on political stunts that Democrats are, that would be a featured story on every news media outlet.

Speaking of not wasting time, China Joe wasted no time in letting the bombs fly in Syria. It only took him 30 days to begin killing Syrians and bring an end to a period of four years of relative peace for Americans. Trump had ordered the withdrawal of all troops from Syria. China Joe sent additional troops to the country instead. Does Biden see Syria as a new revenue source for Hunter? Only time will tell.

[Hoot Gibson]

I know that many conservatives will disagree but Bill Maher is a very liberal media figure who is worthy of some respect. I almost always disagree with Maher but I never doubt that he sincerely believes in the positions that he advocates. I especially appreciate the fact that he is courageous enough to attack Muslim fundamentalism, when most liberals limit their attacks on religious people to Christians. Maher is an atheist and is no friend to Christianity but he is smart enough and honest enough to acknowledge that Muslim terrorists are a real threat to our society and threats from right wing Christians are mostly paranoid delusions.

As liberals always seem to do, they are engaging in an extreme overreach in pushing their extreme anti-white, pro-gay positions on children attending public schools. Below is a discussion of this issue that Maher had with Megyn Kelly on this topic. Kelly recently removed her children from NYC public schools.

[Video: ]

[jetpilot]

"Don't make me Tucker Carlson", you're the f'n nuts"

He can't help himself. You have to wade through a ton of crap to get a useful nugget from Maher. He's not for me.

[Hoot Gibson]

"Don't make me Tucker Carlson", you're the f'n nuts"

He can't help himself. You have to wade through a ton of crap to get a useful nugget from Maher. He's not for me.

At least he is against the cancel culture and brainwashing kids and making their parents foot the bill. It is rare thing to find an honest liberal who doesn't just tick off the liberal talking points of the day.

I'm not sure what he meant with the Carlson comment, but I took Maher to mean that liberals go too far when they force him to agree with Tucker Carlson on an issue.

It's not the political positions that liberals take that causes me to detest most of them, it is the dishonesty and hypocrisy that they resort to in advocating and defending their misguided agenda. I can disagree with people's political positions and still get along with them but I cannot stand dishonest, hypocritical liberals and almost all liberals fall into that category.

[Old School Hound]

One thing is clear -   our jetpilot  hates  Democrats.  It's seems to run pretty deep .  I hope he falls in love with a lovely Democrat that will soften his heart. We Democrats really are loving and caring people.

[Hoot Gibson]

One thing is clear -   our jetpilot  hates  Democrats.  It's seems to run pretty deep .  I hope he falls in love with a lovely Democrat that will soften his heart. We Democrats really are loving and caring people.

The abortion statistics and voting records don't support that claim. The current vendetta against a former president also suggests otherwise.

I am convinced that both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama committed crimes while they were in office but I do not recall Republicans ever being obsessed to flood them with endless lawsuits or criminal investigations after they left office. Trying to enact an unconstitutional law to prohibit anything belonging to the federal government from being named after Donald Trump is a very petty pursuit by Congressional Democrats.

[jetpilot]

One thing is clear -   our jetpilot  hates  Democrats.  It's seems to run pretty deep .  I hope he falls in love with a lovely Democrat that will soften his heart. We Democrats really are loving and caring people.

Ten of millions of dead babies disagree. And I don't hate Dems, you made that up. I hate their policies and hypocrisy. Most of the hate is spewed from the left. Their TVs have told them conservatives are domestic terrorists and racists.

I don't hate you at all OSH. In fact I'm working on a bouquet of songs list.

[The Outsider]

Is Trump destoying the future of the GOP?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...li=BBnb7Kz

Alberto Gonzales, the former attorney general in the George W. Bush administration, said “all Americans should be concerned about election integrity.” But with no evidence of widespread fraud beyond normal irregularities, he said, the focus by some in the GOP on the last election is a “big distraction” from issues that are more pressing to the electorate.

“I think it’s a big distraction,” Gonzales said. “And I worry that it will continue to be a big distraction as long as a certain individual makes statements that it was stolen.”

In part, the party’s lack of a more forward-looking posture is a function of its sudden dearth of power in Washington. The GOP is settling in as an opposition party — with conservatives constituting what Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas described at CPAC as “the Rebel Alliance.” But there is little room for innovative, policy-focused conservative thought in a party so in thrall to one leader — a leader obsessed with the notion that he lost in a rigged election.

[Old School Hound]

One thing is clear -   our jetpilot  hates  Democrats.  It's seems to run pretty deep .  I hope he falls in love with a lovely Democrat that will soften his heart. We Democrats really are loving and caring people.

Ten of millions of dead babies disagree. And I don't hate Dems, you made that up. I hate their policies and hypocrisy. Most of the hate is spewed from the left. Their TVs have told them conservatives are domestic terrorists and racists.

I don't hate you at all OSH. In fact I'm working on a bouquet of songs list.

Loved your colorful musical bouquet; Hoot's as well. Some great tunes . Hoot's "Band of Gold"  and your Hollies tune are two that I should have had on my list.  I didn't mean to suggest that you hate me personally. I don't really feel any hate going on anywhere on this board. Just some people with some very passionate , and I believe, sincerely held opinions. I just wanted to say that I believe people can be on both sides of this issue and still not be evil people. Again, only about  1 in 8  say there no abortion under any circumstance whatsoever.  What was it Trump said about Charlottesville? In the case of the pro-choice, pro-life issue, I think his statement applies- there are good people on both sides.

---

Let me say also that i am so thankful to the administrators of this site for allowing us to speak our political opinions the way we do. I have only been a member of one other message board in my life and on that site now they don't even allow the mention of anything political. Nothing we do or say in this forum would be allowed there. I'm glad its not that way here. While I admit that the dialogue is not always 100% respectful in its tone, I am not offended by anyone's style and I don't question anyone's sincerity. In my opinion, we have very, very smart people that post in the politics forum.

[TheRealThing]

No comments on the first commandment? 

Zero.

@TheRealThing

You ? 
Issues with idolatry?

The Ten Commandments were written to whom? Everybody, or the children of Israel?

They were written after God called the Jews out of bondage in Egypt, to prove to His people that they needed God to survive in the world. The law, that is the 10 Commandments, were all that existed at the time in written it's form, and thusly proved to the Jew across time that no man could ever live up to, or otherwise obey the law. Old Testament Jews looked forward to the coming of the promised messiah for atonement; but we New Testament saints look back to the time Jesus came as Messiah and His substitutionary death on the cross for atonement. Our system of dates reflects this tremendous before and after. Before Christ, BC; and After His Death, AD.

But in looking forward to the coming of the messiah, the Jews of the Old Testament made a yearly animal sacrifice. The blood of which would temporarily cover their sins until the following yearly observance. Christ's death on the cross would once and for all, take away the need for men to ceremoniously sacrifice bulls and goats in observance of His future coming. Because He is, The Lamb of God. In His sacrificial death was fulfilled the great hope of all men who accept the Lordship of Christ to receive eternal life.

Moses later greatly expanded the 10 Commandments, writing the first five books of what was to become the Old Testament. (called the Torah) Since the days of Moses the reality that no man can live up to the demands of the law and thus earn eternal live has been vastly expanded on in two ways. First was the to-whom, of-whom salvation was extended, and second was the extraordinary expansion of the 10 Commandments to become God's Word in the form of the completed Bible, comprised of the Old and New Testaments. The point of division logically enough, were the days when God took on the form of a man, became mortal, and dwelled among us. 

As Christ's time/ministry on earth was coming to a close, the Jews rejected Christ and basically approved of His crucifixion before the Roman Governor Pilate. As was foretold, God moved His focus on salvation from the primarily the Jew, to include the gentile nations. With the coming in other words of Christ, came the inclusionary message of salvation through belief in Him, for all men. Not just the Jew, and certainly the Gospel messengers/preachers, were not just the Jew but also gentiles. And as by the time of Christ the Old Testament had become complete through the additional writings of the prophets. The events of the New Testament as seen through the eyes of the Apostles was about to be authored. As I say mostly by the Apostles, but in part by some significant other of God's servants.

God in His omniscience and to demonstrate the point-- As the 10 Commandments were yet being chiseled out on the tablets of marble by God Himself, and in the presence of Moses. The very people of God recently called out of Egypt and left in the care of Aaron while Moses is occupied with the Lord on Mount Sinai, are at the foot of the mountain engaged in making a graven image to worship. Melting their gold rings and jewelry, and making a golden calf. Points of the law, Commandments 1 through 10, are not the measure of a man's life at the judgment. Men are to be judged against the life of God's own Son, the Lord Jesus Who died on the cross. It's ridiculous for any man to point out another man's shortcomings. We're ALL undone. Born dead in trespass and sin. The ONLY way to life is through to recognize our own sin. Then to recognize that only God is sovereign and to accept the gift of life through the perfect sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross, Whose shed blood unlike the blood of bulls and goats, covers man's sin forevermore. It's a choice, not a measurement. Accept that or reject that, it's the decision we were created to make.

So whether back in Moses time, 1445 BC, or our own day 2021 AD, men outside of Christ are a sorry lot. Laugh all you want at the profound richness of God's truths there Cardfan. I still say inwardly you have to know better. Your concerns about graven images are a bit misplaced in our time, because no true Christian would ever make such a bone headed blunder. But we both know what you were trying to say. Cardfan thinks Christians have confused the former President with God, and has decided to have himself a good old horse laugh. Enjoy it, the joke is on any man who rejects so great a salvation.


Define irony. A guy who doesn't know God, doesn't know a thing about Scripture, and cannot therefore distinguish lies from the truth, nonetheless thinks he is in a position to judge the whole of God's creation, and revise all of reality and God's own true followers as being fools.

[Cardfan1]

No comments on the first commandment? 

Zero.

@TheRealThing

You ? 
Issues with idolatry?

The Ten Commandments were written to whom? Everybody, or the children of Israel?

They were written after God called the Jews out of bondage in Egypt, to prove to His people that they needed God to survive in the world. The law, that is the 10 Commandments, were all that existed at the time in written it's form, and thusly proved to the Jew across time that no man could ever live up to, or otherwise obey the law. Old Testament Jews looked forward to the coming of the promised messiah for atonement; but we New Testament saints look back to the time Jesus came as Messiah and His substitutionary death on the cross for atonement. Our system of dates reflects this tremendous before and after. Before Christ, BC; and After His Death, AD.

But in looking forward to the coming of the messiah, the Jews of the Old Testament made a yearly animal sacrifice. The blood of which would temporarily cover their sins until the following yearly observance. Christ's death on the cross would once and for all, take away the need for men to ceremoniously sacrifice bulls and goats in observance of His future coming. Because He is, The Lamb of God. In His sacrificial death was fulfilled the great hope of all men who accept the Lordship of Christ to receive eternal life.

Moses later greatly expanded the 10 Commandments, writing the first five books of what was to become the Old Testament. (called the Torah) Since the days of Moses the reality that no man can live up to the demands of the law and thus earn eternal live has been vastly expanded on in two ways. First was the to-whom, of-whom salvation was extended, and second was the extraordinary expansion of the 10 Commandments to become God's Word in the form of the completed Bible, comprised of the Old and New Testaments. The point of division logically enough, were the days when God took on the form of a man, became mortal, and dwelled among us. 

As Christ's time/ministry on earth was coming to a close, the Jews rejected Christ and basically approved of His crucifixion before the Roman Governor Pilate. As was foretold, God moved His focus on salvation from the primarily the Jew, to include the gentile nations. With the coming in other words of Christ, came the inclusionary message of salvation through belief in Him, for all men. Not just the Jew, and certainly the Gospel messengers/preachers, were not just the Jew but also gentiles. And as by the time of Christ the Old Testament had become complete through the additional writings of the prophets. The events of the New Testament as seen through the eyes of the Apostles was about to be authored. As I say mostly by the Apostles, but in part by some significant other of God's servants.

God in His omniscience and to demonstrate the point-- As the 10 Commandments were yet being chiseled out on the tablets of marble by God Himself, and in the presence of Moses. The very people of God recently called out of Egypt and left in the care of Aaron while Moses is occupied with the Lord on Mount Sinai, are at the foot of the mountain engaged in making a graven image to worship. Melting their gold rings and jewelry, and making a golden calf. Points of the law, Commandments 1 through 10, are not the measure of a man's life at the judgment. Men are to be judged against the life of God's own Son, the Lord Jesus Who died on the cross. It's ridiculous for any man to point out another man's shortcomings. We're ALL undone. Born dead in trespass and sin. The ONLY way to life is through to recognize our own sin. Then to recognize that only God is sovereign and to accept the gift of life through the perfect sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross, Whose shed blood unlike the blood of bulls and goats, covers man's sin forevermore. It's a choice, not a measurement. Accept that or reject that, it's the decision we were created to make.

So whether back in Moses time, 1445 BC, or our own day 2021 AD, men outside of Christ are a sorry lot. Laugh all you want at the profound richness of God's truths there Cardfan. I still say inwardly you have to know better. Your concerns about graven images are a bit misplaced in our time, because no true Christian would ever make such a bone headed blunder. But we both know what you were trying to say. Cardfan thinks Christians have confused the former President with God, and has decided to have himself a good old horse laugh. Enjoy it, the joke is on any man who rejects so great a salvation.


Define irony. A guy who doesn't know God, doesn't know a thing about Scripture, and cannot therefore distinguish lies from the truth, nonetheless thinks he is in a position to judge the whole of God's creation, and revise all of reality and God's own true followers as being fools.

1.  I know that’s an idol and Trump is a false prophet and you folks are worshipping him and it. 

SAD!

[Hoot Gibson]

No comments on the first commandment? 

Zero.

@TheRealThing

You ? 
Issues with idolatry?

The Ten Commandments were written to whom? Everybody, or the children of Israel?

They were written after God called the Jews out of bondage in Egypt, to prove to His people that they needed God to survive in the world. The law, that is the 10 Commandments, were all that existed at the time in written it's form, and thusly proved to the Jew across time that no man could ever live up to, or otherwise obey the law. Old Testament Jews looked forward to the coming of the promised messiah for atonement; but we New Testament saints look back to the time Jesus came as Messiah and His substitutionary death on the cross for atonement. Our system of dates reflects this tremendous before and after. Before Christ, BC; and After His Death, AD.

But in looking forward to the coming of the messiah, the Jews of the Old Testament made a yearly animal sacrifice. The blood of which would temporarily cover their sins until the following yearly observance. Christ's death on the cross would once and for all, take away the need for men to ceremoniously sacrifice bulls and goats in observance of His future coming. Because He is, The Lamb of God. In His sacrificial death was fulfilled the great hope of all men who accept the Lordship of Christ to receive eternal life.

Moses later greatly expanded the 10 Commandments, writing the first five books of what was to become the Old Testament. (called the Torah) Since the days of Moses the reality that no man can live up to the demands of the law and thus earn eternal live has been vastly expanded on in two ways. First was the to-whom, of-whom salvation was extended, and second was the extraordinary expansion of the 10 Commandments to become God's Word in the form of the completed Bible, comprised of the Old and New Testaments. The point of division logically enough, were the days when God took on the form of a man, became mortal, and dwelled among us. 

As Christ's time/ministry on earth was coming to a close, the Jews rejected Christ and basically approved of His crucifixion before the Roman Governor Pilate. As was foretold, God moved His focus on salvation from the primarily the Jew, to include the gentile nations. With the coming in other words of Christ, came the inclusionary message of salvation through belief in Him, for all men. Not just the Jew, and certainly the Gospel messengers/preachers, were not just the Jew but also gentiles. And as by the time of Christ the Old Testament had become complete through the additional writings of the prophets. The events of the New Testament as seen through the eyes of the Apostles was about to be authored. As I say mostly by the Apostles, but in part by some significant other of God's servants.

God in His omniscience and to demonstrate the point-- As the 10 Commandments were yet being chiseled out on the tablets of marble by God Himself, and in the presence of Moses. The very people of God recently called out of Egypt and left in the care of Aaron while Moses is occupied with the Lord on Mount Sinai, are at the foot of the mountain engaged in making a graven image to worship. Melting their gold rings and jewelry, and making a golden calf. Points of the law, Commandments 1 through 10, are not the measure of a man's life at the judgment. Men are to be judged against the life of God's own Son, the Lord Jesus Who died on the cross. It's ridiculous for any man to point out another man's shortcomings. We're ALL undone. Born dead in trespass and sin. The ONLY way to life is through to recognize our own sin. Then to recognize that only God is sovereign and to accept the gift of life through the perfect sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross, Whose shed blood unlike the blood of bulls and goats, covers man's sin forevermore. It's a choice, not a measurement. Accept that or reject that, it's the decision we were created to make.

So whether back in Moses time, 1445 BC, or our own day 2021 AD, men outside of Christ are a sorry lot. Laugh all you want at the profound richness of God's truths there Cardfan. I still say inwardly you have to know better. Your concerns about graven images are a bit misplaced in our time, because no true Christian would ever make such a bone headed blunder. But we both know what you were trying to say. Cardfan thinks Christians have confused the former President with God, and has decided to have himself a good old horse laugh. Enjoy it, the joke is on any man who rejects so great a salvation.


Define irony. A guy who doesn't know God, doesn't know a thing about Scripture, and cannot therefore distinguish lies from the truth, nonetheless thinks he is in a position to judge the whole of God's creation, and revise all of reality and God's own true followers as being fools.

1.  I know that’s an idol and Trump is a false prophet and you folks are worshipping him and it. 

SAD!

Liar. It is sad to see such a prolific liar with nothing better to do with his time.

[TheRealThing]

No comments on the first commandment? 

Zero.

@TheRealThing

You ? 
Issues with idolatry?

The Ten Commandments were written to whom? Everybody, or the children of Israel?

They were written after God called the Jews out of bondage in Egypt, to prove to His people that they needed God to survive in the world. The law, that is the 10 Commandments, were all that existed at the time in written it's form, and thusly proved to the Jew across time that no man could ever live up to, or otherwise obey the law. Old Testament Jews looked forward to the coming of the promised messiah for atonement; but we New Testament saints look back to the time Jesus came as Messiah and His substitutionary death on the cross for atonement. Our system of dates reflects this tremendous before and after. Before Christ, BC; and After His Death, AD.

But in looking forward to the coming of the messiah, the Jews of the Old Testament made a yearly animal sacrifice. The blood of which would temporarily cover their sins until the following yearly observance. Christ's death on the cross would once and for all, take away the need for men to ceremoniously sacrifice bulls and goats in observance of His future coming. Because He is, The Lamb of God. In His sacrificial death was fulfilled the great hope of all men who accept the Lordship of Christ to receive eternal life.

Moses later greatly expanded the 10 Commandments, writing the first five books of what was to become the Old Testament. (called the Torah) Since the days of Moses the reality that no man can live up to the demands of the law and thus earn eternal live has been vastly expanded on in two ways. First was the to-whom, of-whom salvation was extended, and second was the extraordinary expansion of the 10 Commandments to become God's Word in the form of the completed Bible, comprised of the Old and New Testaments. The point of division logically enough, were the days when God took on the form of a man, became mortal, and dwelled among us. 

As Christ's time/ministry on earth was coming to a close, the Jews rejected Christ and basically approved of His crucifixion before the Roman Governor Pilate. As was foretold, God moved His focus on salvation from the primarily the Jew, to include the gentile nations. With the coming in other words of Christ, came the inclusionary message of salvation through belief in Him, for all men. Not just the Jew, and certainly the Gospel messengers/preachers, were not just the Jew but also gentiles. And as by the time of Christ the Old Testament had become complete through the additional writings of the prophets. The events of the New Testament as seen through the eyes of the Apostles was about to be authored. As I say mostly by the Apostles, but in part by some significant other of God's servants.

God in His omniscience and to demonstrate the point-- As the 10 Commandments were yet being chiseled out on the tablets of marble by God Himself, and in the presence of Moses. The very people of God recently called out of Egypt and left in the care of Aaron while Moses is occupied with the Lord on Mount Sinai, are at the foot of the mountain engaged in making a graven image to worship. Melting their gold rings and jewelry, and making a golden calf. Points of the law, Commandments 1 through 10, are not the measure of a man's life at the judgment. Men are to be judged against the life of God's own Son, the Lord Jesus Who died on the cross. It's ridiculous for any man to point out another man's shortcomings. We're ALL undone. Born dead in trespass and sin. The ONLY way to life is through to recognize our own sin. Then to recognize that only God is sovereign and to accept the gift of life through the perfect sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross, Whose shed blood unlike the blood of bulls and goats, covers man's sin forevermore. It's a choice, not a measurement. Accept that or reject that, it's the decision we were created to make.

So whether back in Moses time, 1445 BC, or our own day 2021 AD, men outside of Christ are a sorry lot. Laugh all you want at the profound richness of God's truths there Cardfan. I still say inwardly you have to know better. Your concerns about graven images are a bit misplaced in our time, because no true Christian would ever make such a bone headed blunder. But we both know what you were trying to say. Cardfan thinks Christians have confused the former President with God, and has decided to have himself a good old horse laugh. Enjoy it, the joke is on any man who rejects so great a salvation.


Define irony. A guy who doesn't know God, doesn't know a thing about Scripture, and cannot therefore distinguish lies from the truth, nonetheless thinks he is in a position to judge the whole of God's creation, and revise all of reality and God's own true followers as being fools.

1.  I know that’s an idol and Trump is a false prophet and you folks are worshipping him and it. 

SAD!

Who cares what it is? I know I don't. And frankly, there may be some people who worship the idol in some limited way, if that's what it really is, is. True worship is something you have no idea about.

Christians worship The One True God only. Because of the nature of worship, it can only be directed to God. Knockoff imitations of worship are like so much of what you say-- a lying misrepresentation of the real thing. Christians are not confused about the person of God, they are "new creatures in Christ." They have working spiritual discernment in "the Spirit of truth," John 14:17; and therefore aren't wallowing in the sort of confusion in which you reside Cardfan.

John 8:44
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Are you a chip off the 'old block,' Cardfan? You asked for an answer, in fact you demanded it. I don't care one iota if you ever recant your lies on this forum; but now that you have the right answer to your childish attempt at deception, you might want to actually read the answer. Nonetheless, I appreciate the opportunity to publish the answer for all who may happen to see it.

[TheRealThing]

No comments on the first commandment? 

Zero.

@TheRealThing

You ? 
Issues with idolatry?

The Ten Commandments were written to whom? Everybody, or the children of Israel?

They were written after God called the Jews out of bondage in Egypt, to prove to His people that they needed God to survive in the world. The law, that is the 10 Commandments, were all that existed at the time in written it's form, and thusly proved to the Jew across time that no man could ever live up to, or otherwise obey the law. Old Testament Jews looked forward to the coming of the promised messiah for atonement; but we New Testament saints look back to the time Jesus came as Messiah and His substitutionary death on the cross for atonement. Our system of dates reflects this tremendous before and after. Before Christ, BC; and After His Death, AD.

But in looking forward to the coming of the messiah, the Jews of the Old Testament made a yearly animal sacrifice. The blood of which would temporarily cover their sins until the following yearly observance. Christ's death on the cross would once and for all, take away the need for men to ceremoniously sacrifice bulls and goats in observance of His future coming. Because He is, The Lamb of God. In His sacrificial death was fulfilled the great hope of all men who accept the Lordship of Christ to receive eternal life.

Moses later greatly expanded the 10 Commandments, writing the first five books of what was to become the Old Testament. (called the Torah) Since the days of Moses the reality that no man can live up to the demands of the law and thus earn eternal live has been vastly expanded on in two ways. First was the to-whom, of-whom salvation was extended, and second was the extraordinary expansion of the 10 Commandments to become God's Word in the form of the completed Bible, comprised of the Old and New Testaments. The point of division logically enough, were the days when God took on the form of a man, became mortal, and dwelled among us. 

As Christ's time/ministry on earth was coming to a close, the Jews rejected Christ and basically approved of His crucifixion before the Roman Governor Pilate. As was foretold, God moved His focus on salvation from the primarily the Jew, to include the gentile nations. With the coming in other words of Christ, came the inclusionary message of salvation through belief in Him, for all men. Not just the Jew, and certainly the Gospel messengers/preachers, were not just the Jew but also gentiles. And as by the time of Christ the Old Testament had become complete through the additional writings of the prophets. The events of the New Testament as seen through the eyes of the Apostles was about to be authored. As I say mostly by the Apostles, but in part by some significant other of God's servants.

God in His omniscience and to demonstrate the point-- As the 10 Commandments were yet being chiseled out on the tablets of marble by God Himself, and in the presence of Moses. The very people of God recently called out of Egypt and left in the care of Aaron while Moses is occupied with the Lord on Mount Sinai, are at the foot of the mountain engaged in making a graven image to worship. Melting their gold rings and jewelry, and making a golden calf. Points of the law, Commandments 1 through 10, are not the measure of a man's life at the judgment. Men are to be judged against the life of God's own Son, the Lord Jesus Who died on the cross. It's ridiculous for any man to point out another man's shortcomings. We're ALL undone. Born dead in trespass and sin. The ONLY way to life is through to recognize our own sin. Then to recognize that only God is sovereign and to accept the gift of life through the perfect sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross, Whose shed blood unlike the blood of bulls and goats, covers man's sin forevermore. It's a choice, not a measurement. Accept that or reject that, it's the decision we were created to make.

So whether back in Moses time, 1445 BC, or our own day 2021 AD, men outside of Christ are a sorry lot. Laugh all you want at the profound richness of God's truths there Cardfan. I still say inwardly you have to know better. Your concerns about graven images are a bit misplaced in our time, because no true Christian would ever make such a bone headed blunder. But we both know what you were trying to say. Cardfan thinks Christians have confused the former President with God, and has decided to have himself a good old horse laugh. Enjoy it, the joke is on any man who rejects so great a salvation.


Define irony. A guy who doesn't know God, doesn't know a thing about Scripture, and cannot therefore distinguish lies from the truth, nonetheless thinks he is in a position to judge the whole of God's creation, and revise all of reality and God's own true followers as being fools.

1.  I know that’s an idol and Trump is a false prophet and you folks are worshipping him and it. 

SAD!

Liar. It is sad to see such a prolific liar with nothing better to do with his time.

Of course he's a liar. That's what he does and obviously, the wand in the statue's hand is a slam on Obama's having mocked Trump's campaign promise to bring back the United State's thoroughly neutered manufacturing base. Which of course, he did in spades.

Cardfan and his brethren are truly equal opportunity operatives. Their lying revision's are just as fluent before, during and after any given event

[Old School Hound]

"Don't make me Tucker Carlson", you're the f'n nuts"

He can't help himself. You have to wade through a ton of crap to get a useful nugget from Maher. He's not for me.

At least he is against the cancel culture and brainwashing kids and making their parents foot the bill. It is rare thing to find an honest liberal who doesn't just tick off the liberal talking points of the day.

I'm not sure what he meant with the Carlson comment, but I took Maher to mean that liberals go too far when they force him to agree with Tucker Carlson on an issue.

It's not the political positions that liberals take that causes me to detest most of them, it is the dishonesty and hypocrisy that they resort to in advocating and defending their misguided agenda. I can disagree with people's political positions and still get along with them but I cannot stand dishonest, hypocritical liberals and almost all liberals fall into that category.

I agree with you about Maher. I don't think he cares who he pisses off, the left or the right. He speaks his mind, for sure. I know many on the left have assailed him for his friendship with Ann Coulter. He doesn't give damned who criticizes him. I'm like you, I can respect someone that I disagree with on almost everything as long as they are not fake. Larry Flynt said the reason he came to like Jerry Falwell is because he believed Falwell was not fake, that he really believed the things he said. I think Maher says what he believes and believes what he says. Like you said, that does deserve a measure of respect.

[Cardfan1]

No comments on the first commandment? 

Zero.

@TheRealThing

You ? 
Issues with idolatry?

The Ten Commandments were written to whom? Everybody, or the children of Israel?

They were written after God called the Jews out of bondage in Egypt, to prove to His people that they needed God to survive in the world. The law, that is the 10 Commandments, were all that existed at the time in written it's form, and thusly proved to the Jew across time that no man could ever live up to, or otherwise obey the law. Old Testament Jews looked forward to the coming of the promised messiah for atonement; but we New Testament saints look back to the time Jesus came as Messiah and His substitutionary death on the cross for atonement. Our system of dates reflects this tremendous before and after. Before Christ, BC; and After His Death, AD.

But in looking forward to the coming of the messiah, the Jews of the Old Testament made a yearly animal sacrifice. The blood of which would temporarily cover their sins until the following yearly observance. Christ's death on the cross would once and for all, take away the need for men to ceremoniously sacrifice bulls and goats in observance of His future coming. Because He is, The Lamb of God. In His sacrificial death was fulfilled the great hope of all men who accept the Lordship of Christ to receive eternal life.

Moses later greatly expanded the 10 Commandments, writing the first five books of what was to become the Old Testament. (called the Torah) Since the days of Moses the reality that no man can live up to the demands of the law and thus earn eternal live has been vastly expanded on in two ways. First was the to-whom, of-whom salvation was extended, and second was the extraordinary expansion of the 10 Commandments to become God's Word in the form of the completed Bible, comprised of the Old and New Testaments. The point of division logically enough, were the days when God took on the form of a man, became mortal, and dwelled among us. 

As Christ's time/ministry on earth was coming to a close, the Jews rejected Christ and basically approved of His crucifixion before the Roman Governor Pilate. As was foretold, God moved His focus on salvation from the primarily the Jew, to include the gentile nations. With the coming in other words of Christ, came the inclusionary message of salvation through belief in Him, for all men. Not just the Jew, and certainly the Gospel messengers/preachers, were not just the Jew but also gentiles. And as by the time of Christ the Old Testament had become complete through the additional writings of the prophets. The events of the New Testament as seen through the eyes of the Apostles was about to be authored. As I say mostly by the Apostles, but in part by some significant other of God's servants.

God in His omniscience and to demonstrate the point-- As the 10 Commandments were yet being chiseled out on the tablets of marble by God Himself, and in the presence of Moses. The very people of God recently called out of Egypt and left in the care of Aaron while Moses is occupied with the Lord on Mount Sinai, are at the foot of the mountain engaged in making a graven image to worship. Melting their gold rings and jewelry, and making a golden calf. Points of the law, Commandments 1 through 10, are not the measure of a man's life at the judgment. Men are to be judged against the life of God's own Son, the Lord Jesus Who died on the cross. It's ridiculous for any man to point out another man's shortcomings. We're ALL undone. Born dead in trespass and sin. The ONLY way to life is through to recognize our own sin. Then to recognize that only God is sovereign and to accept the gift of life through the perfect sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross, Whose shed blood unlike the blood of bulls and goats, covers man's sin forevermore. It's a choice, not a measurement. Accept that or reject that, it's the decision we were created to make.

So whether back in Moses time, 1445 BC, or our own day 2021 AD, men outside of Christ are a sorry lot. Laugh all you want at the profound richness of God's truths there Cardfan. I still say inwardly you have to know better. Your concerns about graven images are a bit misplaced in our time, because no true Christian would ever make such a bone headed blunder. But we both know what you were trying to say. Cardfan thinks Christians have confused the former President with God, and has decided to have himself a good old horse laugh. Enjoy it, the joke is on any man who rejects so great a salvation.


Define irony. A guy who doesn't know God, doesn't know a thing about Scripture, and cannot therefore distinguish lies from the truth, nonetheless thinks he is in a position to judge the whole of God's creation, and revise all of reality and God's own true followers as being fools.

1.  I know that’s an idol and Trump is a false prophet and you folks are worshipping him and it. 

SAD!

Who cares what it is? I know I don't. And frankly, there may be some people who worship the idol in some limited way, if that's what it really is, is. True worship is something you have no idea about.

Christians worship The One True God only. Because of the nature of worship, it can only be directed to God. Knockoff imitations of worship are like so much of what you say-- a lying misrepresentation of the real thing. Christians are not confused about the person of God, they are "new creatures in Christ." They have working spiritual discernment in "the Spirit of truth," John 14:17; and therefore aren't wallowing in the sort of confusion in which you reside Cardfan.

John 8:44
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Are you a chip off the 'old block,' Cardfan? You asked for an answer, in fact you demanded it. I don't care one iota if you ever recant your lies on this forum; but now that you have the right answer to your childish attempt at deception, you might want to actually read the answer. Nonetheless, I appreciate the opportunity to publish the answer for all who may happen to see it.

I apologize.  I have a hard time understanding who are the true believers to you guys.  I should have learned my lesson though.  I mean the whole Capitol insurrection consisted of folks who walked like Trump supporters, looked like Trump supporters, and quacked like Trump supporters, but you guys corrected me and said they were not Trump supporters.  --they were

Now we have folks at the Conservative Political Action Conference worshipping an idol of Trump, and you tell me those folks are not true Christians even though CPAC is primarily sponsored and attended by representatives of evangelical organizations.  HMMMM 

Is there a chance that your party has gotten out of hand, TRT?  All these years you have worried about Dems and libs and your own party is spiraling down the toilet.  

Also what lie was told?  You and Hooter throw that around like I have unreeled a whopper.  TBH it's an extremely childish and irrelevant insult.   

A golden statue of Donald Trump was at CPAC with people slobbering all over it.  Considering the Bible's take on golden statues, I would have expected folks to have understood the problem with it, or maybe they don't care. and it was what it is.

[The Outsider]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/28/world/mea...index.html

But the specter of Trump's comeback raises a practical question: Does anything justify another Trump presidency? He left the country in a shambles, overwhelmed by a pandemic he barely acknowledged during his last months in power. His nepotistic administration left America more divided than at any point since the Civil War. And he almost buckled US democracy itself, deceiving his supporters into believing that he had been cheated in a free and fair election. People died because of the mob that he raised outside the Capitol.
After all that, the fact that Trump is still seen as a credible leader by much of his party (even after losing the White House, the House and the Senate) tells you a lot about the soul of Republicanism and the state of American politics itself.

Yet as Cardfan1 stated, he is worshipped like a God by his cult like following.

[Old School Hound]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/28/world/mea...index.html

But the specter of Trump's comeback raises a practical question: Does anything justify another Trump presidency? He left the country in a shambles, overwhelmed by a pandemic he barely acknowledged during his last months in power. His nepotistic administration left America more divided than at any point since the Civil War. And he almost buckled US democracy itself, deceiving his supporters into believing that he had been cheated in a free and fair election. People died because of the mob that he raised outside the Capitol.
After all that, the fact that Trump is still seen as a credible leader by much of his party (even after losing the White House, the House and the Senate) tells you a lot about the soul of Republicanism and the state of American politics itself.

Yet as Cardfan1 stated, he is worshipped like a God by his cult like following.

Yes,  and why do you think that is?  I started a thread a couple of months to to take my shot at answering that question. It would make an incredibly interesting psychological study.

[The Outsider]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/28/world/mea...index.html

But the specter of Trump's comeback raises a practical question: Does anything justify another Trump presidency? He left the country in a shambles, overwhelmed by a pandemic he barely acknowledged during his last months in power. His nepotistic administration left America more divided than at any point since the Civil War. And he almost buckled US democracy itself, deceiving his supporters into believing that he had been cheated in a free and fair election. People died because of the mob that he raised outside the Capitol.
After all that, the fact that Trump is still seen as a credible leader by much of his party (even after losing the White House, the House and the Senate) tells you a lot about the soul of Republicanism and the state of American politics itself.

Yet as Cardfan1 stated, he is worshipped like a God by his cult like following.

Yes,  and why do you think that is?  I started a thread a couple of months to to take my shot at answering that question. It would make an incredibly interesting psychological study.

If someone is a good public speaker, people tend to believe what this speaker says, especially if they repeat it over and over.  This becomes reality to them instead of actual reality, and they never really measure what someone claims versus the truth.  With Trump, they want to believe what he says and what he claims to be and what he claims to have done, so instead of analyzing and deciding for themselves, they just follow.

People tend to get their news from the source that is closest to the political beliefs, so they never really get an unbiased view of anything.  This seems to be true of people from both political parties.  Watch and really listen to both sides and then decide for yourself is what I would suggest.

This is my take anyway.

---

No comments on the first commandment? 

Zero.

@TheRealThing

You ? 
Issues with idolatry?

The Ten Commandments were written to whom? Everybody, or the children of Israel?

They were written after God called the Jews out of bondage in Egypt, to prove to His people that they needed God to survive in the world. The law, that is the 10 Commandments, were all that existed at the time in written it's form, and thusly proved to the Jew across time that no man could ever live up to, or otherwise obey the law. Old Testament Jews looked forward to the coming of the promised messiah for atonement; but we New Testament saints look back to the time Jesus came as Messiah and His substitutionary death on the cross for atonement. Our system of dates reflects this tremendous before and after. Before Christ, BC; and After His Death, AD.

But in looking forward to the coming of the messiah, the Jews of the Old Testament made a yearly animal sacrifice. The blood of which would temporarily cover their sins until the following yearly observance. Christ's death on the cross would once and for all, take away the need for men to ceremoniously sacrifice bulls and goats in observance of His future coming. Because He is, The Lamb of God. In His sacrificial death was fulfilled the great hope of all men who accept the Lordship of Christ to receive eternal life.

Moses later greatly expanded the 10 Commandments, writing the first five books of what was to become the Old Testament. (called the Torah) Since the days of Moses the reality that no man can live up to the demands of the law and thus earn eternal live has been vastly expanded on in two ways. First was the to-whom, of-whom salvation was extended, and second was the extraordinary expansion of the 10 Commandments to become God's Word in the form of the completed Bible, comprised of the Old and New Testaments. The point of division logically enough, were the days when God took on the form of a man, became mortal, and dwelled among us. 

As Christ's time/ministry on earth was coming to a close, the Jews rejected Christ and basically approved of His crucifixion before the Roman Governor Pilate. As was foretold, God moved His focus on salvation from the primarily the Jew, to include the gentile nations. With the coming in other words of Christ, came the inclusionary message of salvation through belief in Him, for all men. Not just the Jew, and certainly the Gospel messengers/preachers, were not just the Jew but also gentiles. And as by the time of Christ the Old Testament had become complete through the additional writings of the prophets. The events of the New Testament as seen through the eyes of the Apostles was about to be authored. As I say mostly by the Apostles, but in part by some significant other of God's servants.

God in His omniscience and to demonstrate the point-- As the 10 Commandments were yet being chiseled out on the tablets of marble by God Himself, and in the presence of Moses. The very people of God recently called out of Egypt and left in the care of Aaron while Moses is occupied with the Lord on Mount Sinai, are at the foot of the mountain engaged in making a graven image to worship. Melting their gold rings and jewelry, and making a golden calf. Points of the law, Commandments 1 through 10, are not the measure of a man's life at the judgment. Men are to be judged against the life of God's own Son, the Lord Jesus Who died on the cross. It's ridiculous for any man to point out another man's shortcomings. We're ALL undone. Born dead in trespass and sin. The ONLY way to life is through to recognize our own sin. Then to recognize that only God is sovereign and to accept the gift of life through the perfect sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross, Whose shed blood unlike the blood of bulls and goats, covers man's sin forevermore. It's a choice, not a measurement. Accept that or reject that, it's the decision we were created to make.

So whether back in Moses time, 1445 BC, or our own day 2021 AD, men outside of Christ are a sorry lot. Laugh all you want at the profound richness of God's truths there Cardfan. I still say inwardly you have to know better. Your concerns about graven images are a bit misplaced in our time, because no true Christian would ever make such a bone headed blunder. But we both know what you were trying to say. Cardfan thinks Christians have confused the former President with God, and has decided to have himself a good old horse laugh. Enjoy it, the joke is on any man who rejects so great a salvation.


Define irony. A guy who doesn't know God, doesn't know a thing about Scripture, and cannot therefore distinguish lies from the truth, nonetheless thinks he is in a position to judge the whole of God's creation, and revise all of reality and God's own true followers as being fools.

1.  I know that’s an idol and Trump is a false prophet and you folks are worshipping him and it. 

SAD!

Liar. It is sad to see such a prolific liar with nothing better to do with his time.

Of course he's a liar. That's what he does and obviously, the wand in the statue's hand is a slam on Obama's having mocked Trump's campaign promise to bring back the United State's thoroughly neutered manufacturing base. Which of course, he did in spades.

Cardfan and his brethren are truly equal opportunity operatives. Their lying revision's are  just as fluent before, during and after any given event

I have seen nothing to back up this claim of Trump bringing back the U.S. manufacturing base.  Where is the evidence for this?

[Cardfan1]

@The Outsider

What are you talking about !?

Mask, vaccine, toilet paper, and hand sanitizer manufacturing has exploded !!

[TheRealThing]

No comments on the first commandment? 

Zero.

@TheRealThing

You ? 
Issues with idolatry?

The Ten Commandments were written to whom? Everybody, or the children of Israel?

They were written after God called the Jews out of bondage in Egypt, to prove to His people that they needed God to survive in the world. The law, that is the 10 Commandments, were all that existed at the time in written it's form, and thusly proved to the Jew across time that no man could ever live up to, or otherwise obey the law. Old Testament Jews looked forward to the coming of the promised messiah for atonement; but we New Testament saints look back to the time Jesus came as Messiah and His substitutionary death on the cross for atonement. Our system of dates reflects this tremendous before and after. Before Christ, BC; and After His Death, AD.

But in looking forward to the coming of the messiah, the Jews of the Old Testament made a yearly animal sacrifice. The blood of which would temporarily cover their sins until the following yearly observance. Christ's death on the cross would once and for all, take away the need for men to ceremoniously sacrifice bulls and goats in observance of His future coming. Because He is, The Lamb of God. In His sacrificial death was fulfilled the great hope of all men who accept the Lordship of Christ to receive eternal life.

Moses later greatly expanded the 10 Commandments, writing the first five books of what was to become the Old Testament. (called the Torah) Since the days of Moses the reality that no man can live up to the demands of the law and thus earn eternal live has been vastly expanded on in two ways. First was the to-whom, of-whom salvation was extended, and second was the extraordinary expansion of the 10 Commandments to become God's Word in the form of the completed Bible, comprised of the Old and New Testaments. The point of division logically enough, were the days when God took on the form of a man, became mortal, and dwelled among us. 

As Christ's time/ministry on earth was coming to a close, the Jews rejected Christ and basically approved of His crucifixion before the Roman Governor Pilate. As was foretold, God moved His focus on salvation from the primarily the Jew, to include the gentile nations. With the coming in other words of Christ, came the inclusionary message of salvation through belief in Him, for all men. Not just the Jew, and certainly the Gospel messengers/preachers, were not just the Jew but also gentiles. And as by the time of Christ the Old Testament had become complete through the additional writings of the prophets. The events of the New Testament as seen through the eyes of the Apostles was about to be authored. As I say mostly by the Apostles, but in part by some significant other of God's servants.

God in His omniscience and to demonstrate the point-- As the 10 Commandments were yet being chiseled out on the tablets of marble by God Himself, and in the presence of Moses. The very people of God recently called out of Egypt and left in the care of Aaron while Moses is occupied with the Lord on Mount Sinai, are at the foot of the mountain engaged in making a graven image to worship. Melting their gold rings and jewelry, and making a golden calf. Points of the law, Commandments 1 through 10, are not the measure of a man's life at the judgment. Men are to be judged against the life of God's own Son, the Lord Jesus Who died on the cross. It's ridiculous for any man to point out another man's shortcomings. We're ALL undone. Born dead in trespass and sin. The ONLY way to life is through to recognize our own sin. Then to recognize that only God is sovereign and to accept the gift of life through the perfect sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross, Whose shed blood unlike the blood of bulls and goats, covers man's sin forevermore. It's a choice, not a measurement. Accept that or reject that, it's the decision we were created to make.

So whether back in Moses time, 1445 BC, or our own day 2021 AD, men outside of Christ are a sorry lot. Laugh all you want at the profound richness of God's truths there Cardfan. I still say inwardly you have to know better. Your concerns about graven images are a bit misplaced in our time, because no true Christian would ever make such a bone headed blunder. But we both know what you were trying to say. Cardfan thinks Christians have confused the former President with God, and has decided to have himself a good old horse laugh. Enjoy it, the joke is on any man who rejects so great a salvation.


Define irony. A guy who doesn't know God, doesn't know a thing about Scripture, and cannot therefore distinguish lies from the truth, nonetheless thinks he is in a position to judge the whole of God's creation, and revise all of reality and God's own true followers as being fools.

1.  I know that’s an idol and Trump is a false prophet and you folks are worshipping him and it. 

SAD!

Who cares what it is? I know I don't. And frankly, there may be some people who worship the idol in some limited way, if that's what it really is, is. True worship is something you have no idea about.

Christians worship The One True God only. Because of the nature of worship, it can only be directed to God. Knockoff imitations of worship are like so much of what you say-- a lying misrepresentation of the real thing. Christians are not confused about the person of God, they are "new creatures in Christ." They have working spiritual discernment in "the Spirit of truth," John 14:17; and therefore aren't wallowing in the sort of confusion in which you reside Cardfan.

John 8:44
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Are you a chip off the 'old block,' Cardfan? You asked for an answer, in fact you demanded it. I don't care one iota if you ever recant your lies on this forum; but now that you have the right answer to your childish attempt at deception, you might want to actually read the answer. Nonetheless, I appreciate the opportunity to publish the answer for all who may happen to see it.

I apologize.  I have a hard time understanding who are the true believers to you guys.  I should have learned my lesson though.  I mean the whole Capitol insurrection consisted of folks who walked like Trump supporters, looked like Trump supporters, and quacked like Trump supporters, but you guys corrected me and said they were not Trump supporters.  --they were

Now we have folks at the Conservative Political Action Conference worshipping an idol of Trump, and you tell me those folks are not true Christians even though CPAC is primarily sponsored and attended by representatives of evangelical organizations.  HMMMM 

Is there a chance that your party has gotten out of hand, TRT?  All these years you have worried about Dems and libs and your own party is spiraling down the toilet.  

Also what lie was told?  You and Hooter throw that around like I have unreeled a whopper.  TBH it's an extremely childish and irrelevant insult.   

A golden statue of Donald Trump was at CPAC with people slobbering all over it.  Considering the Bible's take on golden statues, I would have expected folks to have understood the problem with it, or maybe they don't care. and it was what it is.

No need to apologize. According to Scripture the whole idea of Christ and true salvation is impossible for the unsaved to comprehend---
1 Cor 2:14
But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

I would however expect you to show some level of respect for the Word and/or the Person of God. But it is good to see you admit you have a hard time understanding God or who His people are.

I don't buy for one second that anyone worshiped the Trump statue at CPAC. But even if they did, I got a flash for you. Whatever it may be that you Cardfan, prize most highly; your job, your house, your wife or children, your favorite soap opera, whatever. That thing is your idol and not one bit different than the golden calf of mount Sinai. And for the sake of this particular argument, the picture of Moses up on the mountain receiving God's law, as opposed the people down on the plain below dancing around a golden calf, has not changed to this day.

Just like the Jews of 1445 BC, we have the same choice to make in our own day. Each man must choose--  will it be God's law, God's sovereignty, and the Lordship of Jesus Christ: (and therefore eternal life in the presence of God) Or will it be a life pursuing our own idols? (and therefore death and separation for all eternity for the love of God) God or idols? Idols can be things of substance or any ill pursuit, or even undying dedication to one's family. Saying that I will readily admit that the American dream is fraught with satisfying distractions which could well satiate most people to the point of their not seeing the need for a savior. Life is good here in the US. But in your mocking people at CPAC for worshiping DJT you have repeated a lie. Even if it were true however, you would be mocking people for doing exactly what you do because I know there is one thing which is most important to Cardfan. There is one thing and that is your idol, and everybody not saved has one. So you want to know the qualifier for the true Church? Christ is number one in their life.

The Republican Party is my party only in the pragmatist's view. Republicans tend to lean far more conservatively than do Democrats. You don't see Republican inserting, and taking out, and reinserting again planks banning the mention of God and the use of prayer at their conventions. The full list of Dem's unique negatives is long and you'd just dodge it anyway. But this is a nation with a government of the people, and as such we Christians have a civic duty to vote and be involved in the political arena.

I certainly don't like what the two political parties are morphing into. Democrats and RINO's or Democrat lights. Nor do I like the speed at which it's all going down. But the Lord did warn of all of this and though I knew it would come, I just did not know when. Now I know.

I've called you out on your lies at the point at which you type them. Use the search tool and reread them for yourself.