[Old School Hound]

One  of the two major political parties  in this country  is an anti- democracy party and has been for decades now.  The GOP has  cheated its way to victories all across the country for decades. And now the Gerrymandering Old Party is at it again in Georgia!!!  They lost three elections in the Peach State in '20-21 and now they have rushed though a law designed keep black and brown people away from the polls.  Voter suppression  is  the GOP's go-to cheating game now. The goal is to make it harder and harder for blacks and Latinos to vote and to intimidate voters that are likely to be of the Democratic persuasion. These kind of laws are a disgrace!!!  

Every single one of us here, whether you are a Democrat or Republican,  should be able to agree that it isn't right to try to suppress any American's right to vote.  Can we agree that we should be encouraging people (D's, R's, and I's) to participate in the political process and not make it harder for anyone to get to the polls?   Has Republicans' disdain for Democrats been surpassed only by their disdain for democracy?

Let's all agree in unanimous fashion that voter suppression is unsavory  and undemocratic .  The kind of tactics that  Republicans  are "Jim Crowing" about in Georgia and Texas are reviving  some of the most shameful actions of America's past.

This must be stopped !!!!   I would feel the same way if Democrats were cheaters.

[TheRealThing]

One  of the two major political parties  in this country  is an anti- democracy party and has been for decades now.  The GOP has  cheated its way to victories all across the country for decades. And now the Gerrymandering Old Party is at it again in Georgia!!!  They lost three elections in the Peach State in '20-21 and now they have rushed though a law designed keep black and brown people away from the polls.  Voter suppression  is  the GOP's go-to cheating game now. The goal is to make it harder and harder for blacks and Latinos to vote and to intimidate voters that are likely to be of the Democratic persuasion. These kind of laws are a disgrace!!!  

Every single one of us here, whether you are a Democrat or Republican,  should be able to agree that it isn't right to try to suppress any American's right to vote.  Can we agree that we should be encouraging people (D's, R's, and I's) to participate in the political process and not make it harder for anyone to get to the polls?   Has Republicans' disdain for Democrats been surpassed only by their disdain for democracy?

Let's all agree in unanimous fashion that voter suppression is unsavory  and undemocratic .  The kind of tactics that  Republicans  are "Jim Crowing" about in Georgia and Texas are reviving  some of the most shameful actions of America's past.

This must be stopped !!!!   I would feel the same way if Democrats were cheaters.

Seriously. I must be missing the intimidated part of all this when the blacks and Latinos are out making threats, destroying property and burning stuff up.

[vector#1]

I have said many times the Republican Party today is not the party of Lincoln
Watch what they Do Not what they Say

GOOD ADVICE

[Old School Hound]

I have said many times the Republican Party today is not the party of Lincoln
Watch what they Do Not what they Say

GOOD ADVICE

Ya think ???  From Jim Crow to the gutting of the Voting Rights Act of '65 to Trump's anti-democracy "Suppress the vote of people that don't look like me"  Republican Party, communities of color have been disenfranchised in both blatant and subtle ways.  Today's GOP is a crazed gaggle of geese that, in the dustpan of history, will be judged harshly and found to be on the wrong side of most every major issue when it comes to doing the right thing for 99% of us. (I realize I just insulted geese)

Make no mistake, "Honest" Abe would be a progressive Democrat today. He would have abhorred today's dishonest , disgusting, and disenfranchising Republican Party.


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[The Outsider]

The new law makes it a crime for anyone to offer water or food to someone waiting in line, even though in many urban neighborhoods people often have to stand in line for hours to vote.  What???  How anyone can deny that this law is clearly meant to suppress African American voters is beyond reasonable comprehension. 

How about trying to develop polices that make this demographic want to vote for your candidate instead of working to keep them from being able to vote for the opponent?  We seem to being going backwards as a Country and unfortunately a lot of people are all for it.

[Old School Hound]

The new law makes it a crime for anyone to offer water or food to someone waiting in line, even though in many urban neighborhoods people often have to stand in line for hours to vote.  What???  How anyone can deny that this law is clearly meant to suppress African American voters is beyond reasonable comprehension. 

How about trying to develop polices that make this demographic want to vote for your candidate instead of working to keep them from being able to vote for the opponent?  We seem to being going backwards as a Country and unfortunately a lot of people are all for it.

BRAVO !!!!   Isn't this how all of us should feel???  (But I bet it's not unanimous among Republicans) . They want to do it the anti-Lincoln way---the DISHONEST way !!!

[Hoot Gibson]

More political hackery from the far left socialists of the Democrat Party.

Democrats have actually criticized Republicans for rules that would require elected officials to remove the names of dead people from voter registration lists on the basis that doing so is an attempt to disenfranchise voters. It is really sad to see som many Americans willing to place party loyalty above loyalty to this great country.

[TheRealThing]

You guys are classic. If some Dem came out and said the Mutara Nebula was pea soup, the media and liberally rabid chipmunks would literally overnight, be up to the challenge of manufacturing data and evidence in support.

Voter suppression is a lie from the pit. As is any supportive so-called evidence.

[Old School Hound]

I would never, EVER, support any kind of legislation that would make it more difficult for Hoot, TNT, or Jet to cast a ballot, even though there's a high probability each of them would vote counter to the way I would. I want everyone to be able to cast a legitimate ballot without any  undue obstacles being put in their way. 

 If TRT needed some water while he was waiting in line, I personally would bring him water. We all know full well what laws like the one rushed through the legislature in Georgia are meant to do and it's very disturbing and very wrong. EVERYONE should be clamoring against such laws. Even though most of our Philandering Fathers were bigots who owned people as property(which I'm sure many of them used Exodus 21 to justify), surely these kind of laws are not what they envisioned for the long-term health and prosperity of our democratic republic.

[jetpilot]

You guys are literally insane. Not to mention racist AF. You think black people are too dumb to know when election day is or where their polling place is, too dumb to get a drink of water or fix themselves a sandwich, too dumb to get a gov't ID, and on and on. Pitiful sheep. Show up on election day with your ID, even a caveman can do it. Or show ID to get your absentee ballot. I literally can't think of anything easier to do in this world than vote, except maybe brainwash you ultra-liberal goofballs.

"Republicans aren't trying to make it hard to vote, they're trying to make it hard to cheat."

[TheRealThing]

You guys are literally insane.  Not to mention racist AF. You think black people are too dumb to know when election day is or where their polling place is, too dumb to get a drink of water or fix themselves a sandwich, too dumb to get a gov't ID, and on and on. Pitiful sheep. Show up on election day with your ID, even a caveman can do it. Or show ID to get your absentee ballot. I literally can't think of anything easier to do in this world than vote, except maybe brainwash you ultra-liberal goofballs.

"Republicans aren't trying to make it hard to vote, they're trying to make it hard to cheat."

And with that the veil of hypocrisy is drawn back. The whole voter suppression argument is literally made up in order to make it easier to cheat.

[Hoot Gibson]

You guys are literally insane.  Not to mention racist AF. You think black people are too dumb to know when election day is or where their polling place is, too dumb to get a drink of water or fix themselves a sandwich, too dumb to get a gov't ID, and on and on. Pitiful sheep. Show up on election day with your ID, even a caveman can do it. Or show ID to get your absentee ballot. I literally can't think of anything easier to do in this world than vote, except maybe brainwash you ultra-liberal goofballs.

"Republicans aren't trying to make it hard to vote, they're trying to make it hard to cheat."

Well said. I agree with every point. Democrats work tirelessly to make it easier for ineligible people, both alive and dead, to vote.

[Hoot Gibson]

Catturd@Catturd

Anytime a Democrat is losing an argument on any issue - get ready for them to say ... JiM cRoW! and 99% of them don't even know what it means.

[Hoot Gibson]

Paulfeldner
@Paulfeldner

Jim Crow laws were written by the Democrat Party. If blacks did not comply with them members of the Democrat Party lynched them.

[Hoot Gibson]

The following demonstrates how shallow these BGR socialists are and how stupid they believe their fellow Americans to be. Nothing else explains them posting so many idiotic threads such as this one. If they are posting, they are lying.

Democrats Call Filibuster Racist – But They Used It Over 300 Times Last Year

Democrats are desperate to end the filibuster. They see this as the key to passing their far left agenda, and they’re right.

Without the filibuster, Democrats would be able to pass pretty much whatever they want.

So, in an effort to get rid of the filibuster, they are calling it racist, which is ridiculous because Democrats used the filibuster over 300 times last year.

The Washington Examiner reports:

Democrats used filibuster 327 times, compared to only once by GOP in 2020: Report

President Joe Biden has been increasingly critical of the Senate filibuster, calling it a Jim Crow relic and saying it has been widely abused despite Democrats using it over 300 times in 2020, compared to once by Republicans.

[TheRealThing]

And now we will get the cricket chorus until Cardfan has time to come up with his best haze job attempt.

[Hoot Gibson]

And now we will get the cricket chorus until Cardfan has time to come up with his best haze job attempt.

Crickets seems to be the BGR socialists response to any criticism of the Biden administration. China Joe's total incompetence is the reason that threads trashing Trump will be their focus for the next four years. On its face, the obsession with former President Trump seems irrational but it is nothing but a part of Democrats' strategy to divert attention away from the mentally incompetent man who was apparently the best candidate their party could muster for 2020.

[jetpilot]

Scott Adams
@ScottAdamsSays
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I'll be surprised if you find more than three in the state.
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Story assistance: For a story, I'm looking for a fairly large group of Georgians who want to vote but cannot get an ID. Please DM me if you have any leads! Thank you.

[The Outsider]

The Democrats are being two faced when it comes to the Filibuster. It does have a history of racism, with the Democrats being the guilty party. I see no way to defend their stance on this.

[TheRealThing]

The Democrats are being two faced when it comes to the Filibuster.  It does have a history of racism, with the Democrats being the guilty party.  I see no way to defend their stance on this.

Hoot GibsonPaulfeldner
@Paulfeldner

Jim Crow laws were written by the Democrat Party. If blacks did not comply with them members of the Democrat Party lynched them.




They're being two faced about everything except the contempt they harbor for Republicans. Therefore the American public who support them and the Republic at large, would be far better served if Dem supporters were to open their eyes and realize what's really going on. Primary among those realizations would be that conservatives are fellow countrymen and certainly not their enemies; The real world threat of which this world offers ample by way of reality. But as things stand with the dragon of globalism poised to swallow us, we'd be lucky to prevail even if national unity were not a problem.

From the preceding years of so-called peaceful demonstration to the open border issue, if Dems had any concept that their supporters might actually hold them responsible at the polls, they'd all get a proper attitude adjustment.

[Hoot Gibson]

The Democrats are being two faced when it comes to the Filibuster.  It does have a history of racism, with the Democrats being the guilty party.  I see no way to defend their stance on this.

Thank you for your response. I have mixed feelings about the filibuster myself. If we had the quality of representation that we should have in the Senate, then I would favor the elimination of the rule. However, there is so much corruption on both sides of the aisle, with so many votes that can be easily bought with awards of pet projects in exchange for votes on closely contested bills, I think that I would rather leave things as they are. Doing nothing when 60 votes cannot be mustered is better than passing bills on a party line vote or by a vote swung by bribing one or two members of the minority party.

I think that the biggest problem that this country faces is a poorly educated, poorly informed electorate. No rule changes in Congress will fix that problem.

[jetpilot]

The Babylon Bee
@TheBabylonBee
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Controversial Georgia Law Requires Poll Workers To Check Voters For A Pulse

https://babylonbee.com/news/controversia...or-a-pulse

[jetpilot]

ATLANTA, GA—Republican Governor Brian Kemp has signed into law sweeping overhauls to Georgia’s election law, including a provision requiring poll workers to check for a pulse before allowing voters to cast a ballot.


Voting rights advocates decried the controversial bill crafted by the Peach State’s Republicans as an act intended to suppress turnout of the state’s many dead Democratic voters, thereby ensuring Republican victories for local, state, and federal races.

“This is just unconscionable and based entirely on lies from the Trump 2020 campaign that somehow voters with a pulse are more valid,” read a joint statement from Georgia-based corporations. “No-pulse voters have always had a say in how their state is run and we think that shouldn’t be changed just to help Republicans win every time. We are considering a boycott until this injustice is corrected.”

“This is discrimination of the highest order,” declared Stacey Abrams from the Office of Rightful Governor Of Georgia. “This is disenfranchisement. It’s Jim Crow 2.0. A heartbeat has never been the definition of a registered voter. This bill is voter suppression. We need to count every vote. It’s just that plain and simple.”

Governor Kemp defended the bill when peppered with questions by the national corporate press that suddenly cared about Georgia by stating, “What? They’re dead. Dead people don’t get a vote!”

At publishing time, voting rights advocates released another statement reminding the nation that democracy dies in darkness.

[TheRealThing]

^^ That's funny. But in the case of Democrat voters they ought to expand the medical exam to include a brain scan too.

[The Outsider]

The Democrats are being two faced when it comes to the Filibuster.  It does have a history of racism, with the Democrats being the guilty party.  I see no way to defend their stance on this.

Thank you for your response. I have mixed feelings about the filibuster myself. If we had the quality of representation that we should have in the Senate, then I would favor the elimination of the rule. However, there is so much corruption on both sides of the aisle, with so many votes that can be easily bought with awards of pet projects in exchange for votes on closely contested bills, I think that I would rather leave things as they are. Doing nothing when 60 votes cannot be mustered is better than passing bills on a party line vote or by a vote swung by bribing one or two members of the minority party.

I think that the biggest problem that this country faces is a poorly educated, poorly informed electorate. No rule changes in Congress will fix that problem.

I agree, the filibuster is kind of ridiculous, but unfortunately due to the very reasons you expressed, may be necessary.  Not only is the electorate what you stated, but also too ideological instead of using their common sense in my opinion.

[TheRealThing]

The Democrats are being two faced when it comes to the Filibuster.  It does have a history of racism, with the Democrats being the guilty party.  I see no way to defend their stance on this.

Thank you for your response. I have mixed feelings about the filibuster myself. If we had the quality of representation that we should have in the Senate, then I would favor the elimination of the rule. However, there is so much corruption on both sides of the aisle, with so many votes that can be easily bought with awards of pet projects in exchange for votes on closely contested bills, I think that I would rather leave things as they are. Doing nothing when 60 votes cannot be mustered is better than passing bills on a party line vote or by a vote swung by bribing one or two members of the minority party.

I think that the biggest problem that this country faces is a poorly educated, poorly informed electorate. No rule changes in Congress will fix that problem.

The Outsider

I agree, the filibuster is kind of ridiculous, but unfortunately due to the very reasons you expressed, may be necessary.  Not only is the electorate what you stated, but also too ideological instead of using their common sense in my opinion.
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As to the electorate.... If in history there were ever an example of a political apparatus working smoothly it would have to be that of the USA up through the JFK administration. An administration which BTW was aided by voter fraud, so they say. So even then was the political arena pure? Nope but it worked because generally speaking IMHO, the legislators of former days were themselves more pure in character; at least to the point of putting the good of the country ahead of their own ambitions. According to Democrats the greatest villain ever to disgrace the Oval was supposedly Richard Nixon. His great sin was participating in the bugging of offices of his political foes in the DNC and the following cover-up. The irony here is of course, that Dems turned around and returned the favor in the case of DJT's presidential run and seem to have totally gotten by with it. Where were the Woodward's and Berstein's when we needed them in 2016-19? But the evil Nixon stepped down in disgrace albeit after much lying about it, for the sake of the country. There were two exceptions to the era of smooth political workings, the Reagan Era and the Trump Era. There was hostility within the establishment, but 'the people' and consequently the country were very well served.

Did Nixon have reason to wonder if the Dems were up to something nefarious? Possibly. I sincerely doubt the bugging just came in out of the blue for the sake of reelection. I would guess that Nixon was hearing about things going on and felt it was his place to stomp on the collaborators.

The electorate are naive, and they are naive by choice. The founder's vision of a self governed people was certainly not the model of modern times. We don't vet candidates anymore. No the most by way of circumspection that any candidate can expect from his base depends 100% on his party selection. Why? Because 'the people' of this land are so blessed and therefore self absorbed with the pursuit of their own personal happiness, that they simply are not about to invest the kind of time it takes to properly self govern. The most 95% of the people who even vote can be expected to contribute to self governance is again, whether to go Democrat or Republican. And even then the vast majority don't come to any sort of renaissance of their own. They merely go with what Mom and Dad were and that's as deep as it ever gets, (other than the talking points). And where there have always been a percentage of Americans that wanted to party their life away, I say that percentage has recently gone through the roof. That's a problem, and a big one at that. 

Now, politicians might be shallow and self serving, but one thing most of them are not is stupid. They know people don't vet candidates. They also know if they want to keep it that way they have to keep the goodies coming. And so it's in that predictable comfort of civic laxity, that we have come to find ourselves in such sad state. Nobody's accountable, and IMO nothing short of economic collapse will change one thing. But until the coming of that collapse politicians will go on bribing those of the electorate who like Aesop's grasshopper, insist that easy times are here to stay.

Here's what Benjamin Franklin had to say about it;  "When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic."

[TheRealThing]

^^ For clarity I could have worded the Reagan and Trump 'exceptions' differently. Obviously since those two administrations fell after the JFK presidency, they were outside the historical window I started with. But I probably should have referred to them as being in addition.

[Cardfan1]

You guys are literally insane.  Not to mention racist AF. You think black people are too dumb to know when election day is or where their polling place is, too dumb to get a drink of water or fix themselves a sandwich, too dumb to get a gov't ID, and on and on. Pitiful sheep. Show up on election day with your ID, even a caveman can do it. Or show ID to get your absentee ballot. I literally can't think of anything easier to do in this world than vote, except maybe brainwash you ultra-liberal goofballs.

"Republicans aren't trying to make it hard to vote, they're trying to make it hard to cheat."

I good portion of black folks stand in a voting line 10 to 20 times longer than yours.  

another time you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.

[TheRealThing]

You guys are literally insane.  Not to mention racist AF. You think black people are too dumb to know when election day is or where their polling place is, too dumb to get a drink of water or fix themselves a sandwich, too dumb to get a gov't ID, and on and on. Pitiful sheep. Show up on election day with your ID, even a caveman can do it. Or show ID to get your absentee ballot. I literally can't think of anything easier to do in this world than vote, except maybe brainwash you ultra-liberal goofballs.

"Republicans aren't trying to make it hard to vote, they're trying to make it hard to cheat."

I good portion of black folks stand in a voting line 10 to 20 times longer than yours.  

another time you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.

Polling places are always manned by Democrats. Or are you going to try and say Republicans banned the Republican poll watchers from doing their jobs and duly observing the mail-in/absentee counting process in Pennsylvania and the swing states involved in Joe Biden's 2am hour comeback?

I'll take Jet's batting average anytime over yours... FTR.

[jetpilot]

You guys are literally insane.  Not to mention racist AF. You think black people are too dumb to know when election day is or where their polling place is, too dumb to get a drink of water or fix themselves a sandwich, too dumb to get a gov't ID, and on and on. Pitiful sheep. Show up on election day with your ID, even a caveman can do it. Or show ID to get your absentee ballot. I literally can't think of anything easier to do in this world than vote, except maybe brainwash you ultra-liberal goofballs.

"Republicans aren't trying to make it hard to vote, they're trying to make it hard to cheat."

I good portion of black folks stand in a voting line 10 to 20 times longer than yours.  

another time you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.

You typed 2 lines that are false and/or ignorant about 20 different ways. That's an amazing feat.

1. You have no idea where or when I vote or how long I have to stand in line, but

2. Black people standing in line 10-20 times longer than me is outrageous on its face. Most people would offer some proof of such a made up statement but of course not you.

3. Early voting went on in Fulton Co GA for 3 WEEKS before election day, MORNING, NOON and NIGHT, 7 DAYS A WEEK, ALL OVER THE COUNTY.

Look here  https://www.fultoncountyga.gov/news/2020...l-election

4. If you missed the boat on that, you had plenty of time in advance to get an absentee ballot an drop it in any of these drop boxes all over the county:

https://www.11alive.com/article/news/pol...01233bde61

5. Then if you still missed out on both of those options that went on 24-7 FOR WEEKS and have to vote on election day, don't be surprised if there are long lines. And if you forget to eat before you go to the polling place, you might want to take a bottle of water and a bologna sandwich with you. You can't always expect some stranger to keep you fed when you get hungry or bring you water when you're thirsty. And don't whine that mean Republicans are keeping you from voting, only very very stupid people believe they can be stopped from voting.