[Cardfan1]

^^ It was not a natural gas failure, it was an equipment failure. Texas is normally very temperate, but natural gas turbines froze this time because they weren't winterized. Likely a money savings gamble, who knows. That doesn't change the fact that in no way does the situation cast doubt on the existing wisdom of power generation; as if renewables are going to be somehow more reliable. Renewables don't even exist.

I wanted Cardfan to step up and inform us so I could expose his deceit, but I'll accept your effort Outsider. Natural gas is part of the power grid, it wasn't a natural gas failure, the gas was there.
Austin American-Statesman--
Grant Ruckel: “Pipelines do not freeze. They are naturally insulated. They’re buried beneath the ground.”

PolitiFact's ruling: True
https://www.statesman.com/story/news/pol...596289001/

The global warming alarmists up and down the line are always on hand to flood the news with supportive data and findings to advance their agenda. NONETHELESS, this thread is about the fact that funding for NG and nuclear concerns will not be included if the Dems get their way on the infrastructure bill.

Sorry, I was busy today, TRT.  Glad Vector could keep you busy and you didn’t have rewatch Tucker or Sean from last night  

so the gas equipment failed because they failed to winterize the system. Wonder who said that early in the thread?
TRT, you know why some of the turbines failed?  They weren’t winterized either.  

Both systems had the same problem: failure of oversight.

[vector#1]

^^ It was not a natural gas failure, it was an equipment failure. Texas is normally very temperate, but natural gas turbines froze this time because they weren't winterized. Likely a money savings gamble, who knows. That doesn't change the fact that in no way does the situation cast doubt on the existing wisdom of power generation; as if renewables are going to be somehow more reliable. Renewables don't even exist.

I wanted Cardfan to step up and inform us so I could expose his deceit, but I'll accept your effort Outsider. Natural gas is part of the power grid, it wasn't a natural gas failure, the gas was there.
Austin American-Statesman--
Grant Ruckel: “Pipelines do not freeze. They are naturally insulated. They’re buried beneath the ground.”

PolitiFact's ruling: True
https://www.statesman.com/story/news/pol...596289001/

The global warming alarmists up and down the line are always on hand to flood the news with supportive data and findings to advance their agenda. NONETHELESS, this thread is about the fact that funding for NG and nuclear concerns will not be included if the Dems get their way on the infrastructure bill.

Would you also say it's a Deregulation failure ?

Well I'll tell ya vector. IF the people there in Texas running the show really have to have Washington telling them every move to make, we're all had anyway.

Nonetheless pm Cardfan back, and tell him he's doing great at giving you all the lefty talking points.

I bet the people in Texas when there power went out over NO one watchin out for them(Deregulation) wished there had been. Instead didn't the State Leaders requested a emergency declaration(gimme money) ?
Deregulation is not always the best thing greed takes over human nature.
Look at what happened in 2007 and 2008.

I notice you went back to your old style of writing. Normally, deregulation is the best thing that possibly could happen. Past that your post was pretty good comic relief. Oh and vector, even  though you strain so hard to maintain your online image your desire to be more 'noticed' on here for lack of a better way to put it, is very Chester-esque.

"Normally, deregulation is the best thing that possibly could happen"
Why did you post Normally ?
What would you regulate and what would you Deregulate ?
I am curious what you would turn a blind eye to 

[TheRealThing]

Would you also say it's a Deregulation failure ?

Well I'll tell ya vector. IF the people there in Texas running the show really have to have Washington telling them every move to make, we're all had anyway.

Nonetheless pm Cardfan back, and tell him he's doing great at giving you all the lefty talking points.

I bet the people in Texas when there power went out over NO one watchin out for them(Deregulation) wished there had been. Instead didn't the State Leaders requested a emergency declaration(gimme money) ?
Deregulation is not always the best thing greed takes over human nature.
Look at what happened in 2007 and 2008.

I notice you went back to your old style of writing. Normally, deregulation is the best thing that possibly could happen. Past that your post was pretty good comic relief. Oh and vector, even  though you strain so hard to maintain your online image your desire to be more 'noticed' on here for lack of a better way to put it, is very Chester-esque.

"Normally, deregulation is the best thing that possibly could happen"
Why did you post Normally ?
What would you regulate and what would you Deregulate ?
I am curious what you would turn a blind eye to 

Well you can go back and reread all the ridiculous baloney you've put up on here. I turn a blind eye to every bit of that silliness.

[TheRealThing]

^^ It was not a natural gas failure, it was an equipment failure. Texas is normally very temperate, but natural gas turbines froze this time because they weren't winterized. Likely a money savings gamble, who knows. That doesn't change the fact that in no way does the situation cast doubt on the existing wisdom of power generation; as if renewables are going to be somehow more reliable. Renewables don't even exist.

I wanted Cardfan to step up and inform us so I could expose his deceit, but I'll accept your effort Outsider. Natural gas is part of the power grid, it wasn't a natural gas failure, the gas was there.
Austin American-Statesman--
Grant Ruckel: “Pipelines do not freeze. They are naturally insulated. They’re buried beneath the ground.”

PolitiFact's ruling: True
https://www.statesman.com/story/news/pol...596289001/

The global warming alarmists up and down the line are always on hand to flood the news with supportive data and findings to advance their agenda. NONETHELESS, this thread is about the fact that funding for NG and nuclear concerns will not be included if the Dems get their way on the infrastructure bill.

Sorry, I was busy today, TRT.  Glad Vector could keep you busy and you didn’t have rewatch Tucker or Sean from last night  

so the gas equipment failed because they failed to winterize the system. Wonder who said that early in the thread?
TRT, you know why some of the turbines failed?  They weren’t winterized either.  

Both systems had the same problem: failure of oversight.

And I am glad to see a day at work did not lessen your propensity to lie your head off. You inferred the problem in Texas was due to natural gas failures, or larger, the fossil fuels energy grid. Which in the way you presented is patently untrue. Natural gas is very reliable and has been for the past century or more. Shoddy maintenance or failure to winterize equipment in a temperate zone is a management issue. Not a natural gas failure. This whole Texas song and dance is your attempt to highjack the thread at best. A thread BTW which is about Congress defunding nuclear and NG relative to the proposed new energy grid, a federal matter, not a Texas matter. But that's what liberals do, change the subject and argue till dawn about something that has only the remotest bearing on the issue at hand.

The overarching point past all your haze, is that US reliance on fossil fuels is very real. The story about the frozen turbines was purposefully mitigated by the same energy companies that just invested a lot of customer capital in erecting them. The fact that winter time operation of wind power is a near write off was thrown in to further deflect away from the issue, according to the Texas energy commission. In other words you can dance on the head of that pin all you want. Renewables are a joke. Wind doesn't perform well in the wintertime and neither does solar.

So you tell me there Cardfan. If fossil fuels and nuclear drop off the chart all of a sudden, how are we going to close the energy shorfall gap in Texas or anywhere else with renewables which at the present supply only 3% of demand? My point about fossil fuels is self evident.

[Cardfan1]

^^ It was not a natural gas failure, it was an equipment failure. Texas is normally very temperate, but natural gas turbines froze this time because they weren't winterized. Likely a money savings gamble, who knows. That doesn't change the fact that in no way does the situation cast doubt on the existing wisdom of power generation; as if renewables are going to be somehow more reliable. Renewables don't even exist.

I wanted Cardfan to step up and inform us so I could expose his deceit, but I'll accept your effort Outsider. Natural gas is part of the power grid, it wasn't a natural gas failure, the gas was there.
Austin American-Statesman--
Grant Ruckel: “Pipelines do not freeze. They are naturally insulated. They’re buried beneath the ground.”

PolitiFact's ruling: True
https://www.statesman.com/story/news/pol...596289001/

The global warming alarmists up and down the line are always on hand to flood the news with supportive data and findings to advance their agenda. NONETHELESS, this thread is about the fact that funding for NG and nuclear concerns will not be included if the Dems get their way on the infrastructure bill.

Sorry, I was busy today, TRT.  Glad Vector could keep you busy and you didn’t have rewatch Tucker or Sean from last night  

so the gas equipment failed because they failed to winterize the system. Wonder who said that early in the thread?
TRT, you know why some of the turbines failed?  They weren’t winterized either.  

Both systems had the same problem: failure of oversight.

And I am glad to see a day at work did not lessen your propensity to lie your head off. You inferred the problem in Texas was due to natural gas failures, or larger, the fossil fuels energy grid. Which in the way you presented is patently untrue. Natural gas is very reliable and has been for the past century or more. Shoddy maintenance or failure to winterize equipment in a temperate zone is a management issue. Not a natural gas failure. This whole Texas song and dance is your attempt to highjack the thread at best. A thread BTW which is about Congress defunding nuclear and NG relative to the proposed new energy grid, a federal matter, not a Texas matter. But that's what liberals do, change the subject and argue till dawn about something that has only the remotest bearing on the issue at hand.

The overarching point past all your haze, is that US reliance on fossil fuels is very real. The story about the frozen turbines was purposefully mitigated by the same energy companies that just invested a lot of customer capital in erecting them. The fact that winter time operation of wind power is a near write off was thrown in to further deflect away from the issue, according to the Texas energy commission. In other words you can dance on the head of that pin all you want. Renewables are a joke. Wind doesn't perform well in the wintertime and neither does solar.

So you tell me there Cardfan. If fossil fuels and nuclear drop off the chart all of a sudden, how are we going to close the energy shorfall gap in Texas or anywhere else with renewables which at the present supply only 3% of demand? My point about fossil fuels is self evident.

LIAR!!    

Hooter has disappeared, and I haven’t seen that one in a few days. 

this is what I posted on earlier in the thread.  

“Nope.  The failure to winterize every component of the system from renewable to fossil fuel caused the blackout.  That's what happens when state govt. thinks it is a business instead of a service to the people.      

Dude, you created this thread with an implication that green energy fails even though that was a disingenuous lie told by Tucker and Texas Republicans.  I just pointed out fossil fuels are no more reliable when you don't pour the antifreeze in.”

The fossil fuel failure was obviously bigger because Texas was more reliant on fossil fuels like the rest of the nation.  Have you ever thought it could be a good idea for America to diversify its energy? 

I guess renewables are only a joke on American soil like many things that work only in the rest of the work. 

and is Congress defunding NG and Nuclear power? Really? 

This whole socialism you’re begging for is sidebar comedy.

[vector#1]

Well I'll tell ya vector. IF the people there in Texas running the show really have to have Washington telling them every move to make, we're all had anyway.

Nonetheless pm Cardfan back, and tell him he's doing great at giving you all the lefty talking points.

I bet the people in Texas when there power went out over NO one watchin out for them(Deregulation) wished there had been. Instead didn't the State Leaders requested a emergency declaration(gimme money) ?
Deregulation is not always the best thing greed takes over human nature.
Look at what happened in 2007 and 2008.

I notice you went back to your old style of writing. Normally, deregulation is the best thing that possibly could happen. Past that your post was pretty good comic relief. Oh and vector, even  though you strain so hard to maintain your online image your desire to be more 'noticed' on here for lack of a better way to put it, is very Chester-esque.

"Normally, deregulation is the best thing that possibly could happen"
Why did you post Normally ?
What would you regulate and what would you Deregulate ?
I am curious what you would turn a blind eye to 

Well you can go back and reread all the ridiculous baloney you've put up on here. I turn a blind eye to every bit of that silliness.

Well you danced around that one

---

^^ It was not a natural gas failure, it was an equipment failure. Texas is normally very temperate, but natural gas turbines froze this time because they weren't winterized. Likely a money savings gamble, who knows. That doesn't change the fact that in no way does the situation cast doubt on the existing wisdom of power generation; as if renewables are going to be somehow more reliable. Renewables don't even exist.

I wanted Cardfan to step up and inform us so I could expose his deceit, but I'll accept your effort Outsider. Natural gas is part of the power grid, it wasn't a natural gas failure, the gas was there.
Austin American-Statesman--
Grant Ruckel: “Pipelines do not freeze. They are naturally insulated. They’re buried beneath the ground.”

PolitiFact's ruling: True
https://www.statesman.com/story/news/pol...596289001/

The global warming alarmists up and down the line are always on hand to flood the news with supportive data and findings to advance their agenda. NONETHELESS, this thread is about the fact that funding for NG and nuclear concerns will not be included if the Dems get their way on the infrastructure bill.

Sorry, I was busy today, TRT.  Glad Vector could keep you busy and you didn’t have rewatch Tucker or Sean from last night  

so the gas equipment failed because they failed to winterize the system. Wonder who said that early in the thread?
TRT, you know why some of the turbines failed?  They weren’t winterized either.  

Both systems had the same problem: failure of oversight.

And I am glad to see a day at work did not lessen your propensity to lie your head off. You inferred the problem in Texas was due to natural gas failures, or larger, the fossil fuels energy grid. Which in the way you presented is patently untrue. Natural gas is very reliable and has been for the past century or more. Shoddy maintenance or failure to winterize equipment in a temperate zone is a management issue. Not a natural gas failure. This whole Texas song and dance is your attempt to highjack the thread at best. A thread BTW which is about Congress defunding nuclear and NG relative to the proposed new energy grid, a federal matter, not a Texas matter. But that's what liberals do, change the subject and argue till dawn about something that has only the remotest bearing on the issue at hand.

The overarching point past all your haze, is that US reliance on fossil fuels is very real. The story about the frozen turbines was purposefully mitigated by the same energy companies that just invested a lot of customer capital in erecting them. The fact that winter time operation of wind power is a near write off was thrown in to further deflect away from the issue, according to the Texas energy commission. In other words you can dance on the head of that pin all you want. Renewables are a joke. Wind doesn't perform well in the wintertime and neither does solar.

So you tell me there Cardfan. If fossil fuels and nuclear drop off the chart all of a sudden, how are we going to close the energy shorfall gap in Texas or anywhere else with renewables which at the present supply only 3% of demand? My point about fossil fuels is self evident.

LIAR!!    

Hooter has disappeared, and I haven’t seen that one in a few days. 

this is what I posted on earlier in the thread.  

“Nope.  The failure to winterize every component of the system from renewable to fossil fuel caused the blackout.  That's what happens when state govt. thinks it is a business instead of a service to the people.      

Dude, you created this thread with an implication that green energy fails even though that was a disingenuous lie told by Tucker and Texas Republicans.  I just pointed out fossil fuels are no more reliable when you don't pour the antifreeze in.”

The fossil fuel failure was obviously bigger because Texas was more reliant on fossil fuels like the rest of the nation.  Have you ever thought it could be a good idea for America to diversify its energy? 

I guess renewables are only a joke on American soil like many things that work only in the rest of the work. 

and is Congress defunding NG and Nuclear power? Really? 

This whole socialism you’re begging for is sidebar comedy.

Quooter's mom must of not paid the internet bill

[TheRealThing]

^^ It was not a natural gas failure, it was an equipment failure. Texas is normally very temperate, but natural gas turbines froze this time because they weren't winterized. Likely a money savings gamble, who knows. That doesn't change the fact that in no way does the situation cast doubt on the existing wisdom of power generation; as if renewables are going to be somehow more reliable. Renewables don't even exist.

I wanted Cardfan to step up and inform us so I could expose his deceit, but I'll accept your effort Outsider. Natural gas is part of the power grid, it wasn't a natural gas failure, the gas was there.
Austin American-Statesman--
Grant Ruckel: “Pipelines do not freeze. They are naturally insulated. They’re buried beneath the ground.”

PolitiFact's ruling: True
https://www.statesman.com/story/news/pol...596289001/

The global warming alarmists up and down the line are always on hand to flood the news with supportive data and findings to advance their agenda. NONETHELESS, this thread is about the fact that funding for NG and nuclear concerns will not be included if the Dems get their way on the infrastructure bill.

Sorry, I was busy today, TRT.  Glad Vector could keep you busy and you didn’t have rewatch Tucker or Sean from last night  

so the gas equipment failed because they failed to winterize the system. Wonder who said that early in the thread?
TRT, you know why some of the turbines failed?  They weren’t winterized either.  

Both systems had the same problem: failure of oversight.

And I am glad to see a day at work did not lessen your propensity to lie your head off. You inferred the problem in Texas was due to natural gas failures, or larger, the fossil fuels energy grid. Which in the way you presented is patently untrue. Natural gas is very reliable and has been for the past century or more. Shoddy maintenance or failure to winterize equipment in a temperate zone is a management issue. Not a natural gas failure. This whole Texas song and dance is your attempt to highjack the thread at best. A thread BTW which is about Congress defunding nuclear and NG relative to the proposed new energy grid, a federal matter, not a Texas matter. But that's what liberals do, change the subject and argue till dawn about something that has only the remotest bearing on the issue at hand.

The overarching point past all your haze, is that US reliance on fossil fuels is very real. The story about the frozen turbines was purposefully mitigated by the same energy companies that just invested a lot of customer capital in erecting them. The fact that winter time operation of wind power is a near write off was thrown in to further deflect away from the issue, according to the Texas energy commission. In other words you can dance on the head of that pin all you want. Renewables are a joke. Wind doesn't perform well in the wintertime and neither does solar.

So you tell me there Cardfan. If fossil fuels and nuclear drop off the chart all of a sudden, how are we going to close the energy shorfall gap in Texas or anywhere else with renewables which at the present supply only 3% of demand? My point about fossil fuels is self evident.

LIAR!!    

Hooter has disappeared, and I haven’t seen that one in a few days. 

this is what I posted on earlier in the thread.  

“Nope.  The failure to winterize every component of the system from renewable to fossil fuel caused the blackout.  That's what happens when state govt. thinks it is a business instead of a service to the people.      

Dude, you created this thread with an implication that green energy fails even though that was a disingenuous lie told by Tucker and Texas Republicans.  I just pointed out fossil fuels are no more reliable when you don't pour the antifreeze in.”

The fossil fuel failure was obviously bigger because Texas was more reliant on fossil fuels like the rest of the nation.  Have you ever thought it could be a good idea for America to diversify its energy? 

I guess renewables are only a joke on American soil like many things that work only in the rest of the work. 

and is Congress defunding NG and Nuclear power? Really? 

This whole socialism you’re begging for is sidebar comedy.

As to the bolded of your quote above---

Yeah well, this is what you said in the post right before --
"TRT, you follow the same fools who said the windmills froze in Texas when it was actually the fossil fuels suppliers that failed."

So you tell me Cardfan, did you lie or are you just that dysfunctional? But after I called you out did you equivocate and keep the conversation alive long enough to do as much damage control as you could? Yep.

When you write, everything you put up is loaded with your own variety of deceit or has been run through the DNC strainer. When the facts contradict the narrative in a way detrimental to the liberal agenda, you guys always cook the books. If the DNC hasn't had time yet to cook something up on any issue, you refuse to acknowledge that issue until the narrative is released. At that point all the parrots come to life with the sanctioned word for word verbatim. The distortion you just tried to use on me is an example of this. The left wants green energy only, and they will lie in unison. Even develop cover stories delivered by the media, for people like you to spread around. Why" Because anything is better for them than for America to wake up and realize what's actually coming if the green agenda goes through. And it's all reportedly in the infrastructure bill of mention.

Now dude, I did not indicate that green energy fails per se. I have said renewables are nearly worthless in the winter, or when the wind isn't blowing, or when it's cloudy: Which BTW is very often. In fact there are only 205 sunny days a year in the US on average. What happens the other 160? Fossil fuels take up the slack for the 3% joke which passes for green energy production. That said Texas windmills did freeze up, but YOU'RE the guy who brought up Texas, and then tried to hang the lie around my neck as if it was a point I made. You lied.

AFTR. The fossil fuels suppliers did not fail, as you claimed. You might pin it on management, but natural gas transmission is dependable to a fault. Why don't you admit it and move on? Everybody else is already convinced I can assure.

[vector#1]

It's Deregulation they tried to get by as cheap as they could and no body was watchin them it's that simple and people died and suffered. Then the federal Government had to come in and bail them out.
So if they had rules to go by and someone making sure they was following those rules could of saved money.
Haven't gotten final numbers but bet it would have been cheaper to make sure someone was watchin.

Texas doesn't have that many coal fired plants left and more are schedule to close or convert to gas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_po...s_in_Texas

[Cardfan1]

^^ It was not a natural gas failure, it was an equipment failure. Texas is normally very temperate, but natural gas turbines froze this time because they weren't winterized. Likely a money savings gamble, who knows. That doesn't change the fact that in no way does the situation cast doubt on the existing wisdom of power generation; as if renewables are going to be somehow more reliable. Renewables don't even exist.

I wanted Cardfan to step up and inform us so I could expose his deceit, but I'll accept your effort Outsider. Natural gas is part of the power grid, it wasn't a natural gas failure, the gas was there.
Austin American-Statesman--
Grant Ruckel: “Pipelines do not freeze. They are naturally insulated. They’re buried beneath the ground.”

PolitiFact's ruling: True
https://www.statesman.com/story/news/pol...596289001/

The global warming alarmists up and down the line are always on hand to flood the news with supportive data and findings to advance their agenda. NONETHELESS, this thread is about the fact that funding for NG and nuclear concerns will not be included if the Dems get their way on the infrastructure bill.

Sorry, I was busy today, TRT.  Glad Vector could keep you busy and you didn’t have rewatch Tucker or Sean from last night  

so the gas equipment failed because they failed to winterize the system. Wonder who said that early in the thread?
TRT, you know why some of the turbines failed?  They weren’t winterized either.  

Both systems had the same problem: failure of oversight.

And I am glad to see a day at work did not lessen your propensity to lie your head off. You inferred the problem in Texas was due to natural gas failures, or larger, the fossil fuels energy grid. Which in the way you presented is patently untrue. Natural gas is very reliable and has been for the past century or more. Shoddy maintenance or failure to winterize equipment in a temperate zone is a management issue. Not a natural gas failure. This whole Texas song and dance is your attempt to highjack the thread at best. A thread BTW which is about Congress defunding nuclear and NG relative to the proposed new energy grid, a federal matter, not a Texas matter. But that's what liberals do, change the subject and argue till dawn about something that has only the remotest bearing on the issue at hand.

The overarching point past all your haze, is that US reliance on fossil fuels is very real. The story about the frozen turbines was purposefully mitigated by the same energy companies that just invested a lot of customer capital in erecting them. The fact that winter time operation of wind power is a near write off was thrown in to further deflect away from the issue, according to the Texas energy commission. In other words you can dance on the head of that pin all you want. Renewables are a joke. Wind doesn't perform well in the wintertime and neither does solar.

So you tell me there Cardfan. If fossil fuels and nuclear drop off the chart all of a sudden, how are we going to close the energy shorfall gap in Texas or anywhere else with renewables which at the present supply only 3% of demand? My point about fossil fuels is self evident.

LIAR!!    

Hooter has disappeared, and I haven’t seen that one in a few days. 

this is what I posted on earlier in the thread.  

“Nope.  The failure to winterize every component of the system from renewable to fossil fuel caused the blackout.  That's what happens when state govt. thinks it is a business instead of a service to the people.      

Dude, you created this thread with an implication that green energy fails even though that was a disingenuous lie told by Tucker and Texas Republicans.  I just pointed out fossil fuels are no more reliable when you don't pour the antifreeze in.”

The fossil fuel failure was obviously bigger because Texas was more reliant on fossil fuels like the rest of the nation.  Have you ever thought it could be a good idea for America to diversify its energy? 

I guess renewables are only a joke on American soil like many things that work only in the rest of the work. 

and is Congress defunding NG and Nuclear power? Really? 

This whole socialism you’re begging for is sidebar comedy.

As to the bolded of your quote above---

Yeah well, this is what you said in the post right before --
"TRT, you follow the same fools who said the windmills froze in Texas when it was actually the fossil fuels suppliers that failed."

So you tell me Cardfan, did you lie or are you just that dysfunctional? But after I called you out did you equivocate and keep the conversation alive long enough to do as much damage control as you could? Yep.

When you write, everything you put up is loaded with your own variety of deceit or has been run through the DNC strainer. When the facts contradict the narrative in a way detrimental to the liberal agenda, you guys always cook the books. If the DNC hasn't had time yet to cook something up on any issue, you refuse to acknowledge that issue until the narrative is released. At that point all the parrots come to life with the sanctioned word for word verbatim. The distortion you just tried to use on me is an example of this. The left wants green energy only, and they will lie in unison. Even develop cover stories delivered by the media, for people like you to spread around. Why" Because anything is better for them than for America to wake up and realize what's actually coming if the green agenda goes through. And it's all reportedly in the infrastructure bill of mention.

Now dude, I did not indicate that green energy fails per se. I have said renewables are nearly worthless in the winter, or when the wind isn't blowing, or when it's cloudy: Which BTW is very often. In fact there are only 205 sunny days a year in the US on average. What happens the other 160? Fossil fuels take up the slack for the 3% joke which passes for green energy production. That said Texas windmills did freeze up, but YOU'RE the guy who brought up Texas, and then tried to hang the lie around my neck as if it was a point I made. You lied.

AFTR. The fossil fuels suppliers did not fail, as you claimed. You might pin it on management, but natural gas transmission is dependable to a fault. Why don't you admit it and move on? Everybody else is already convinced I can assure.

  love you some strawman, TRT. It doesn’t help your argument. The fossil fuel suppliers did fail, which was WAY more destructive than the windmills failing.  There are hundreds of sources from Texas media that will tell you that.  
Both were a result of no oversight due to Republican deregulation. Now you’re on here screaming we need more government.    we agree for once, TRT.  We agree. 

I’ll leave it at that.

[TheRealThing]

Sorry, I was busy today, TRT.  Glad Vector could keep you busy and you didn’t have rewatch Tucker or Sean from last night  

so the gas equipment failed because they failed to winterize the system. Wonder who said that early in the thread?
TRT, you know why some of the turbines failed?  They weren’t winterized either.  

Both systems had the same problem: failure of oversight.

And I am glad to see a day at work did not lessen your propensity to lie your head off. You inferred the problem in Texas was due to natural gas failures, or larger, the fossil fuels energy grid. Which in the way you presented is patently untrue. Natural gas is very reliable and has been for the past century or more. Shoddy maintenance or failure to winterize equipment in a temperate zone is a management issue. Not a natural gas failure. This whole Texas song and dance is your attempt to highjack the thread at best. A thread BTW which is about Congress defunding nuclear and NG relative to the proposed new energy grid, a federal matter, not a Texas matter. But that's what liberals do, change the subject and argue till dawn about something that has only the remotest bearing on the issue at hand.

The overarching point past all your haze, is that US reliance on fossil fuels is very real. The story about the frozen turbines was purposefully mitigated by the same energy companies that just invested a lot of customer capital in erecting them. The fact that winter time operation of wind power is a near write off was thrown in to further deflect away from the issue, according to the Texas energy commission. In other words you can dance on the head of that pin all you want. Renewables are a joke. Wind doesn't perform well in the wintertime and neither does solar.

So you tell me there Cardfan. If fossil fuels and nuclear drop off the chart all of a sudden, how are we going to close the energy shorfall gap in Texas or anywhere else with renewables which at the present supply only 3% of demand? My point about fossil fuels is self evident.

LIAR!!    

Hooter has disappeared, and I haven’t seen that one in a few days. 

this is what I posted on earlier in the thread.  

“Nope.  The failure to winterize every component of the system from renewable to fossil fuel caused the blackout.  That's what happens when state govt. thinks it is a business instead of a service to the people.      

Dude, you created this thread with an implication that green energy fails even though that was a disingenuous lie told by Tucker and Texas Republicans.  I just pointed out fossil fuels are no more reliable when you don't pour the antifreeze in.”

The fossil fuel failure was obviously bigger because Texas was more reliant on fossil fuels like the rest of the nation.  Have you ever thought it could be a good idea for America to diversify its energy? 

I guess renewables are only a joke on American soil like many things that work only in the rest of the work. 

and is Congress defunding NG and Nuclear power? Really? 

This whole socialism you’re begging for is sidebar comedy.

As to the bolded of your quote above---

Yeah well, this is what you said in the post right before --
"TRT, you follow the same fools who said the windmills froze in Texas when it was actually the fossil fuels suppliers that failed."

So you tell me Cardfan, did you lie or are you just that dysfunctional? But after I called you out did you equivocate and keep the conversation alive long enough to do as much damage control as you could? Yep.

When you write, everything you put up is loaded with your own variety of deceit or has been run through the DNC strainer. When the facts contradict the narrative in a way detrimental to the liberal agenda, you guys always cook the books. If the DNC hasn't had time yet to cook something up on any issue, you refuse to acknowledge that issue until the narrative is released. At that point all the parrots come to life with the sanctioned word for word verbatim. The distortion you just tried to use on me is an example of this. The left wants green energy only, and they will lie in unison. Even develop cover stories delivered by the media, for people like you to spread around. Why" Because anything is better for them than for America to wake up and realize what's actually coming if the green agenda goes through. And it's all reportedly in the infrastructure bill of mention.

Now dude, I did not indicate that green energy fails per se. I have said renewables are nearly worthless in the winter, or when the wind isn't blowing, or when it's cloudy: Which BTW is very often. In fact there are only 205 sunny days a year in the US on average. What happens the other 160? Fossil fuels take up the slack for the 3% joke which passes for green energy production. That said Texas windmills did freeze up, but YOU'RE the guy who brought up Texas, and then tried to hang the lie around my neck as if it was a point I made. You lied.

AFTR. The fossil fuels suppliers did not fail, as you claimed. You might pin it on management, but natural gas transmission is dependable to a fault. Why don't you admit it and move on? Everybody else is already convinced I can assure.

  love you some strawman, TRT. It doesn’t help your argument. The fossil fuel suppliers did fail, which was WAY more destructive than the windmills failing.  There are hundreds of sources from Texas media that will tell you that.  
Both were a result of no oversight due to Republican deregulation. Now you’re on here screaming we need more government.    we agree for once, TRT.  We agree. 

I’ll leave it at that.

The whole Texas deal IS the strawman, and your diversion. The natural gas suppliers did not fail, you're still lying about that. You don't have the first clue how many of the Texas media would back you up but it's a safe lie at this point. I say it's got exactly zero to do with deregulation, which is less government.

Cardfan ---  "TRT, you follow the same fools who said the windmills froze in Texas when it was actually the fossil fuels suppliers that failed.
Plain fact ruling: LIE

The Texas Media---
Austin American-Statesman--
Grant Ruckel: “Pipelines do not freeze. They are naturally insulated. They’re buried beneath the ground.”

PolitiFact's ruling: True
https://www.statesman.com/story/news/pol...596289001/

[Cardfan1]

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factc...SKBN2AJ2EI

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politi...tural-gas/

https://theweek.com/articles/967062/what...nerability

“On Fox News, Tucker Carlson asserted: "The windmills failed like the silly fashion accessories they are, and people in Texas died."

This is egregiously false. Wind power generation always tends to decline during the winter, and the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT), which manages the Texas power grid, plans for this. Indeed, on Monday wind was exceeding its expected output, and though wind output fell on Tuesday, solar was making up much of the difference.

As Princeton engineering professor Jesse Jenkins points out, the real primary culprit was the mass failure of nuclear, coal, and natural gas (or "thermal") power plants. At the peak of the blackout something like 27,000 megawatts of thermal capacity were offline — or nearly 40 percent of Texas's entire thermal capacity. So far it is unclear which plants exactly were down, but it seems that it was mainly natural gas to blame, as pipes were frozen and the extreme cold stoked high demand for gas heating. But the cold also knocked out some coal capacity and at least one nuclear power plant, and also damaged a lot of transmission infrastructure.

I really could do this all day, and post hundreds of articles saying the same thing “fossil fuels failed Texans.”

LIAR!!!
Where did ever say pipelines froze?

Come on, TRT. Why can’t we come together and support more government/taxpayer money for all sources of energy; Instead of he said/he said? I’ll forgive you for parroting some of Tucker’s talking points, and we can agree on the govt regulating energy companies to make them more reliable, efficient, and sustainable.

[vector#1]

"The whole Texas deal IS the strawman, and your diversion. The natural gas suppliers did not fail, you're still lying about that. You don't have the first clue how many of the Texas media would back you up but it's a safe lie at this point. I say it's got exactly zero to do with deregulation, which is less government."
Not enough people watching them why can't you say that ?

[TheRealThing]

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factc...SKBN2AJ2EI

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politi...tural-gas/

https://theweek.com/articles/967062/what...nerability

“On Fox News, Tucker Carlson asserted: "The windmills failed like the silly fashion accessories they are, and people in Texas died."

This is egregiously false. Wind power generation always tends to decline during the winter, and the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT), which manages the Texas power grid, plans for this. Indeed, on Monday wind was exceeding its expected output, and though wind output fell on Tuesday, solar was making up much of the difference.

As Princeton engineering professor Jesse Jenkins points out, the real primary culprit was the mass failure of nuclear, coal, and natural gas (or "thermal") power plants. At the peak of the blackout something like 27,000 megawatts of thermal capacity were offline — or nearly 40 percent of Texas's entire thermal capacity. So far it is unclear which plants exactly were down, but it seems that it was mainly natural gas to blame, as pipes were frozen and the extreme cold stoked high demand for gas heating. But the cold also knocked out some coal capacity and at least one nuclear power plant, and also damaged a lot of transmission infrastructure.

I really could do this all day, and post hundreds of articles saying the same thing “fossil fuels failed Texans.”

LIAR!!!
Where did ever say pipelines froze?

Come on, TRT.  Why can’t we come together and support more government/taxpayer money for all sources of energy; Instead of he said/he said?  I’ll forgive you for parroting some of Tucker’s talking points, and we can agree on the govt regulating energy companies to make them more reliable, efficient, and sustainable.

I could care less if you forgive me or not. I don't watch Tucker, never particularly cared for him. Larry Kudlow however has been close to the deceit Dems have planned for the US in the immediate future. If getting together means keeping fossils online while allowing green energy to develop, I'm okay with that. That's not what's going on.

Anybody looking to be lied to by the left can go on the internet and find the liberal talking points. The Austin American-Statesman is in fact a Texas media outlet and a respected one at that. Politifact is anything but biased for the conservative side and they are not about to give up any props to support them on something that would be as thin as you're trying to let on. The collaborative leftist Academia, especially the pinch nosed elitists of the IVY League, are, and are going to be all-in on making any contribution they can towards the fulfillment of the liberal wish list now that they have the white house and both houses of congress.

They're doing their part, you're doing your part. It's all still a pack of lies meant to drum up public support for the green new deal. You're not fooling anybody other than vector. BTW, is it not about time you pm'd him with more liberal drivel to put up?

[vector#1]

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factc...SKBN2AJ2EI

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politi...tural-gas/

https://theweek.com/articles/967062/what...nerability

“On Fox News, Tucker Carlson asserted: "The windmills failed like the silly fashion accessories they are, and people in Texas died."

This is egregiously false. Wind power generation always tends to decline during the winter, and the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT), which manages the Texas power grid, plans for this. Indeed, on Monday wind was exceeding its expected output, and though wind output fell on Tuesday, solar was making up much of the difference.

As Princeton engineering professor Jesse Jenkins points out, the real primary culprit was the mass failure of nuclear, coal, and natural gas (or "thermal") power plants. At the peak of the blackout something like 27,000 megawatts of thermal capacity were offline — or nearly 40 percent of Texas's entire thermal capacity. So far it is unclear which plants exactly were down, but it seems that it was mainly natural gas to blame, as pipes were frozen and the extreme cold stoked high demand for gas heating. But the cold also knocked out some coal capacity and at least one nuclear power plant, and also damaged a lot of transmission infrastructure.

I really could do this all day, and post hundreds of articles saying the same thing “fossil fuels failed Texans.”

LIAR!!!
Where did ever say pipelines froze?

Come on, TRT.  Why can’t we come together and support more government/taxpayer money for all sources of energy; Instead of he said/he said?  I’ll forgive you for parroting some of Tucker’s talking points, and we can agree on the govt regulating energy companies to make them more reliable, efficient, and sustainable.

I could care less if you forgive me or not. I don't watch Tucker, never particularly cared for him. Larry Kudlow however has been close to the deceit Dems have planned for the US in the immediate future. If getting together means keeping fossils online while allowing green energy to develop, I'm okay with that. That's not what's going on.

Anybody looking to be lied to by the left can go on the internet and find the liberal talking points. The Austin American-Statesman is in fact a Texas media outlet and a respected one at that. Politifact is anything but biased for the conservative side and they are not about to give up any props to support them on something that would be as thin as you're trying to let on. The collaborative leftist Academia, especially the pinch nosed elitists of the IVY League, are, and are going to be all-in on making any contribution they can towards the fulfillment of the liberal wish list now that they have the white house and both houses of congress.

They're doing their part, you're doing your part. It's all still a pack of lies meant to drum up public support for the green new deal. You're not fooling anybody other than vector. BTW, is it not about time you pm'd him with more liberal drivel to put up?

And once again can't admit need more regulation you can't let the fox guard the henhouse

[TheRealThing]

"The whole Texas deal IS the strawman, and your diversion. The natural gas suppliers did not fail, you're still lying about that. You don't have the first clue how many of the Texas media would back you up but it's a safe lie at this point. I say it's got exactly zero to do with deregulation, which is less government."
Not enough people watching them why can't you say that ?

This thread is not about Texas. If they learned the hard way, so be it. Once the story made headline news, winterization projects got moved up the top of the priority list anyway. Everything over which the US Congress has oversight has become a politicized joke, including and possibly especially health care. I've had way too much regulation already.

[TheRealThing]

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factc...SKBN2AJ2EI

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politi...tural-gas/

https://theweek.com/articles/967062/what...nerability

“On Fox News, Tucker Carlson asserted: "The windmills failed like the silly fashion accessories they are, and people in Texas died."

This is egregiously false. Wind power generation always tends to decline during the winter, and the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT), which manages the Texas power grid, plans for this. Indeed, on Monday wind was exceeding its expected output, and though wind output fell on Tuesday, solar was making up much of the difference.

As Princeton engineering professor Jesse Jenkins points out, the real primary culprit was the mass failure of nuclear, coal, and natural gas (or "thermal") power plants. At the peak of the blackout something like 27,000 megawatts of thermal capacity were offline — or nearly 40 percent of Texas's entire thermal capacity. So far it is unclear which plants exactly were down, but it seems that it was mainly natural gas to blame, as pipes were frozen and the extreme cold stoked high demand for gas heating. But the cold also knocked out some coal capacity and at least one nuclear power plant, and also damaged a lot of transmission infrastructure.

I really could do this all day, and post hundreds of articles saying the same thing “fossil fuels failed Texans.”

LIAR!!!
Where did ever say pipelines froze?

Come on, TRT.  Why can’t we come together and support more government/taxpayer money for all sources of energy; Instead of he said/he said?  I’ll forgive you for parroting some of Tucker’s talking points, and we can agree on the govt regulating energy companies to make them more reliable, efficient, and sustainable.

I could care less if you forgive me or not. I don't watch Tucker, never particularly cared for him. Larry Kudlow however has been close to the deceit Dems have planned for the US in the immediate future. If getting together means keeping fossils online while allowing green energy to develop, I'm okay with that. That's not what's going on.

Anybody looking to be lied to by the left can go on the internet and find the liberal talking points. The Austin American-Statesman is in fact a Texas media outlet and a respected one at that. Politifact is anything but biased for the conservative side and they are not about to give up any props to support them on something that would be as thin as you're trying to let on. The collaborative leftist Academia, especially the pinch nosed elitists of the IVY League, are, and are going to be all-in on making any contribution they can towards the fulfillment of the liberal wish list now that they have the white house and both houses of congress.

They're doing their part, you're doing your part. It's all still a pack of lies meant to drum up public support for the green new deal. You're not fooling anybody other than vector. BTW, is it not about time you pm'd him with more liberal drivel to put up?

And once again can't admit need more regulation you can't let the fox guard the henhouse

Ahh. The mushroom speaks.

[TheRealThing]

American energy production was the standard of the entire world as it was. Then the desk bound pudding cups of the left whose religion is global warming, retroengineered falsified data to support their self imagined impending doom and declared that fossil fuels were about to destroy humanity. Now supposedly, wind that doesn't blow all the time, and the sun which doesn't shine all the time, can just magically overnight stretch it's capacity from 3% of US need to 100%. Like as was the reasoning started by Obama, all one must do is sign a piece of paper to that effect up in DC and viola, problem solved. Magic.

But thanks to such baloney as the foregoing, we now live in a La-La hysteria where the threat of China can easily be ignored, even facilitated to the point of speeding up the willful loss of our own sovereignty while our attention is completely occupied with an unscientific imaginary foe. Global Warming. The Matrix movie trilogy was prophetic as the ready acceptance of a fictitious reality has become the preferred medium. For your side that's another reason regulation is so important. Those of us outside the matrix who breathe a purer atmosphere are dangerous too, and therefore must be controlled and regulated. The best we can by way of the 'Smith program' however is a government of and by the rabid left. 

Define irony. Humanity is indeed under threat, but not from fossil fuels which are the kindly provisions of God's design, the obvious reality your side rejects. But thusly will your self destructive bent to be regulated in every last matter imaginable, find it's culmination at the hands of one man of autonomy.  And it will all happen much quicker than your wildest hopes.

[vector#1]

American energy production was the standard of the entire world as it was. Then the desk bound pudding cups of the left whose religion is global warming, retroengineered falsified data to support their self imagined impending doom and declared that fossil fuels were about to destroy humanity. Now supposedly, wind that doesn't blow all the time, and the sun which doesn't shine all the time, can just magically overnight stretch it's capacity from 3% of US need to 100%. Like as was the reasoning started by Obama, all one must do is sign a piece of paper to that effect up in DC and viola, problem solved. Magic.

But thanks to such baloney as the foregoing, we now live in a La-La hysteria where the threat of China can easily be ignored, even facilitated to the point of speeding up the willful loss of our own sovereignty while our attention is completely occupied with an unscientific imaginary foe. Global Warming. The Matrix movie trilogy was prophetic as the ready acceptance of a fictitious reality has become the preferred medium. For your side that's another reason regulation is so important. Those of us outside the matrix who breathe a purer atmosphere are dangerous too, and therefore must be controlled and regulated. The best we can by way of the 'Smith program' however is a government of and by the rabid left. 

Define irony. Humanity is indeed under threat, but not from fossil fuels which are the kindly provisions of God's design, the obvious reality your side rejects. But thusly will your self destructive bent to be regulated in every last matter imaginable, find it's culmination at the hands of one man of autonomy.  And it will all happen much quicker than your wildest hopes.

Boy you danced around it once again.
What's wrong with somebody watching ?

[Cardfan1]

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factc...SKBN2AJ2EI

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politi...tural-gas/

https://theweek.com/articles/967062/what...nerability

“On Fox News, Tucker Carlson asserted: "The windmills failed like the silly fashion accessories they are, and people in Texas died."

This is egregiously false. Wind power generation always tends to decline during the winter, and the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT), which manages the Texas power grid, plans for this. Indeed, on Monday wind was exceeding its expected output, and though wind output fell on Tuesday, solar was making up much of the difference.

As Princeton engineering professor Jesse Jenkins points out, the real primary culprit was the mass failure of nuclear, coal, and natural gas (or "thermal") power plants. At the peak of the blackout something like 27,000 megawatts of thermal capacity were offline — or nearly 40 percent of Texas's entire thermal capacity. So far it is unclear which plants exactly were down, but it seems that it was mainly natural gas to blame, as pipes were frozen and the extreme cold stoked high demand for gas heating. But the cold also knocked out some coal capacity and at least one nuclear power plant, and also damaged a lot of transmission infrastructure.

I really could do this all day, and post hundreds of articles saying the same thing “fossil fuels failed Texans.”

LIAR!!!
Where did ever say pipelines froze?

Come on, TRT.  Why can’t we come together and support more government/taxpayer money for all sources of energy; Instead of he said/he said?  I’ll forgive you for parroting some of Tucker’s talking points, and we can agree on the govt regulating energy companies to make them more reliable, efficient, and sustainable.

I could care less if you forgive me or not. I don't watch Tucker, never particularly cared for him. Larry Kudlow however has been close to the deceit Dems have planned for the US in the immediate future. If getting together means keeping fossils online while allowing green energy to develop, I'm okay with that. That's not what's going on.

Anybody looking to be lied to by the left can go on the internet and find the liberal talking points. The Austin American-Statesman is in fact a Texas media outlet and a respected one at that. Politifact is anything but biased for the conservative side and they are not about to give up any props to support them on something that would be as thin as you're trying to let on. The collaborative leftist Academia, especially the pinch nosed elitists of the IVY League, are, and are going to be all-in on making any contribution they can towards the fulfillment of the liberal wish list now that they have the white house and both houses of congress.

They're doing their part, you're doing your part. It's all still a pack of lies meant to drum up public support for the green new deal. You're not fooling anybody other than vector. BTW, is it not about time you pm'd him with more liberal drivel to put up?

what are you defending?  
you misread what I said and carried on a strawman argument for 6 or 7 posts now.

Are you saying fossil fuel system didn’t fail and the only problem was wind energy?  

You know that’s a lie.  Elementary math disproves that.  

Well, you must watch Cucker Tarlson then because much of the stuff you put on here is word for word of the Faux New’s white nationalist superstar Tucker Carlson.  

Mark it down ...April 16th TRT is begging for more government to save the dying fossil fuels.   

I liked it so much I’ll say it again:  you conservatives love your socialism when it benefits what you believe in

---

American energy production was the standard of the entire world as it was. Then the desk bound pudding cups of the left whose religion is global warming, retroengineered falsified data to support their self imagined impending doom and declared that fossil fuels were about to destroy humanity. Now supposedly, wind that doesn't blow all the time, and the sun which doesn't shine all the time, can just magically overnight stretch it's capacity from 3% of US need to 100%. Like as was the reasoning started by Obama, all one must do is sign a piece of paper to that effect up in DC and viola, problem solved. Magic.

But thanks to such baloney as the foregoing, we now live in a La-La hysteria where the threat of China can easily be ignored, even facilitated to the point of speeding up the willful loss of our own sovereignty while our attention is completely occupied with an unscientific imaginary foe. Global Warming. The Matrix movie trilogy was prophetic as the ready acceptance of a fictitious reality has become the preferred medium. For your side that's another reason regulation is so important. Those of us outside the matrix who breathe a purer atmosphere are dangerous too, and therefore must be controlled and regulated. The best we can by way of the 'Smith program' however is a government of and by the rabid left. 

Define irony. Humanity is indeed under threat, but not from fossil fuels which are the kindly provisions of God's design, the obvious reality your side rejects. But thusly will your self destructive bent to be regulated in every last matter imaginable, find it's culmination at the hands of one man of autonomy.  And it will all happen much quicker than your wildest hopes.

Boy you danced around it once again.
What's wrong with somebody watching ?

Yeah...that was some more two-step. 

It’s like he’s never heard of batteries.    

we’ve witnessed the death of one fossil fuel despite 30 years of hoopleheaded belief it was coming back what makes anyone believe that technology won’t overtake others if the biggest obstacle—-money—isn’t in the way. 

I now see what Galileo was dealing with. 

[TheRealThing]

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factc...SKBN2AJ2EI

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politi...tural-gas/

https://theweek.com/articles/967062/what...nerability

“On Fox News, Tucker Carlson asserted: "The windmills failed like the silly fashion accessories they are, and people in Texas died."

This is egregiously false. Wind power generation always tends to decline during the winter, and the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT), which manages the Texas power grid, plans for this. Indeed, on Monday wind was exceeding its expected output, and though wind output fell on Tuesday, solar was making up much of the difference.

As Princeton engineering professor Jesse Jenkins points out, the real primary culprit was the mass failure of nuclear, coal, and natural gas (or "thermal") power plants. At the peak of the blackout something like 27,000 megawatts of thermal capacity were offline — or nearly 40 percent of Texas's entire thermal capacity. So far it is unclear which plants exactly were down, but it seems that it was mainly natural gas to blame, as pipes were frozen and the extreme cold stoked high demand for gas heating. But the cold also knocked out some coal capacity and at least one nuclear power plant, and also damaged a lot of transmission infrastructure.

I really could do this all day, and post hundreds of articles saying the same thing “fossil fuels failed Texans.”

LIAR!!!
Where did ever say pipelines froze?

Come on, TRT.  Why can’t we come together and support more government/taxpayer money for all sources of energy; Instead of he said/he said?  I’ll forgive you for parroting some of Tucker’s talking points, and we can agree on the govt regulating energy companies to make them more reliable, efficient, and sustainable.

I could care less if you forgive me or not. I don't watch Tucker, never particularly cared for him. Larry Kudlow however has been close to the deceit Dems have planned for the US in the immediate future. If getting together means keeping fossils online while allowing green energy to develop, I'm okay with that. That's not what's going on.

Anybody looking to be lied to by the left can go on the internet and find the liberal talking points. The Austin American-Statesman is in fact a Texas media outlet and a respected one at that. Politifact is anything but biased for the conservative side and they are not about to give up any props to support them on something that would be as thin as you're trying to let on. The collaborative leftist Academia, especially the pinch nosed elitists of the IVY League, are, and are going to be all-in on making any contribution they can towards the fulfillment of the liberal wish list now that they have the white house and both houses of congress.

They're doing their part, you're doing your part. It's all still a pack of lies meant to drum up public support for the green new deal. You're not fooling anybody other than vector. BTW, is it not about time you pm'd him with more liberal drivel to put up?

what are you defending?  
you misread what I said and carried on a strawman argument for 6 or 7 posts now.

Are you saying fossil fuel system didn’t fail and the only problem was wind energy?  

You know that’s a lie.  Elementary math disproves that.  

Well, you must watch Cucker Tarlson then because much of the stuff you put on here is word for word of the Faux New’s white nationalist superstar Tucker Carlson.  

Mark it down ...April 16th TRT is begging for more government to save the dying fossil fuels.   

I liked it so much I’ll say it again:  you conservatives love your socialism when it benefits what you believe in

---

American energy production was the standard of the entire world as it was. Then the desk bound pudding cups of the left whose religion is global warming, retroengineered falsified data to support their self imagined impending doom and declared that fossil fuels were about to destroy humanity. Now supposedly, wind that doesn't blow all the time, and the sun which doesn't shine all the time, can just magically overnight stretch it's capacity from 3% of US need to 100%. Like as was the reasoning started by Obama, all one must do is sign a piece of paper to that effect up in DC and viola, problem solved. Magic.

But thanks to such baloney as the foregoing, we now live in a La-La hysteria where the threat of China can easily be ignored, even facilitated to the point of speeding up the willful loss of our own sovereignty while our attention is completely occupied with an unscientific imaginary foe. Global Warming. The Matrix movie trilogy was prophetic as the ready acceptance of a fictitious reality has become the preferred medium. For your side that's another reason regulation is so important. Those of us outside the matrix who breathe a purer atmosphere are dangerous too, and therefore must be controlled and regulated. The best we can by way of the 'Smith program' however is a government of and by the rabid left. 

Define irony. Humanity is indeed under threat, but not from fossil fuels which are the kindly provisions of God's design, the obvious reality your side rejects. But thusly will your self destructive bent to be regulated in every last matter imaginable, find it's culmination at the hands of one man of autonomy.  And it will all happen much quicker than your wildest hopes.

Boy you danced around it once again.
What's wrong with somebody watching ?

Yeah...that was some more two-step. 

It’s like he’s never heard of batteries.    

we’ve witnessed the death of one fossil fuel despite 30 years of hoopleheaded belief it was coming back what makes anyone believe that technology won’t overtake others if the biggest obstacle—-money—isn’t in the way. 

I now see what Galileo was dealing with. 

LOL right. And in you we see what we're dealing with. A little pudgy guy from the unemployment office who should be working while he's on the clock. Not sticking it to the taxpayers who pay his salary dredging up idiocies on Salon.com.

[Cardfan1]

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factc...SKBN2AJ2EI

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politi...tural-gas/

https://theweek.com/articles/967062/what...nerability

“On Fox News, Tucker Carlson asserted: "The windmills failed like the silly fashion accessories they are, and people in Texas died."

This is egregiously false. Wind power generation always tends to decline during the winter, and the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT), which manages the Texas power grid, plans for this. Indeed, on Monday wind was exceeding its expected output, and though wind output fell on Tuesday, solar was making up much of the difference.

As Princeton engineering professor Jesse Jenkins points out, the real primary culprit was the mass failure of nuclear, coal, and natural gas (or "thermal") power plants. At the peak of the blackout something like 27,000 megawatts of thermal capacity were offline — or nearly 40 percent of Texas's entire thermal capacity. So far it is unclear which plants exactly were down, but it seems that it was mainly natural gas to blame, as pipes were frozen and the extreme cold stoked high demand for gas heating. But the cold also knocked out some coal capacity and at least one nuclear power plant, and also damaged a lot of transmission infrastructure.

I really could do this all day, and post hundreds of articles saying the same thing “fossil fuels failed Texans.”

LIAR!!!
Where did ever say pipelines froze?

Come on, TRT.  Why can’t we come together and support more government/taxpayer money for all sources of energy; Instead of he said/he said?  I’ll forgive you for parroting some of Tucker’s talking points, and we can agree on the govt regulating energy companies to make them more reliable, efficient, and sustainable.

I could care less if you forgive me or not. I don't watch Tucker, never particularly cared for him. Larry Kudlow however has been close to the deceit Dems have planned for the US in the immediate future. If getting together means keeping fossils online while allowing green energy to develop, I'm okay with that. That's not what's going on.

Anybody looking to be lied to by the left can go on the internet and find the liberal talking points. The Austin American-Statesman is in fact a Texas media outlet and a respected one at that. Politifact is anything but biased for the conservative side and they are not about to give up any props to support them on something that would be as thin as you're trying to let on. The collaborative leftist Academia, especially the pinch nosed elitists of the IVY League, are, and are going to be all-in on making any contribution they can towards the fulfillment of the liberal wish list now that they have the white house and both houses of congress.

They're doing their part, you're doing your part. It's all still a pack of lies meant to drum up public support for the green new deal. You're not fooling anybody other than vector. BTW, is it not about time you pm'd him with more liberal drivel to put up?

what are you defending?  
you misread what I said and carried on a strawman argument for 6 or 7 posts now.

Are you saying fossil fuel system didn’t fail and the only problem was wind energy?  

You know that’s a lie.  Elementary math disproves that.  

Well, you must watch Cucker Tarlson then because much of the stuff you put on here is word for word of the Faux New’s white nationalist superstar Tucker Carlson.  

Mark it down ...April 16th TRT is begging for more government to save the dying fossil fuels.   

I liked it so much I’ll say it again:  you conservatives love your socialism when it benefits what you believe in

---

American energy production was the standard of the entire world as it was. Then the desk bound pudding cups of the left whose religion is global warming, retroengineered falsified data to support their self imagined impending doom and declared that fossil fuels were about to destroy humanity. Now supposedly, wind that doesn't blow all the time, and the sun which doesn't shine all the time, can just magically overnight stretch it's capacity from 3% of US need to 100%. Like as was the reasoning started by Obama, all one must do is sign a piece of paper to that effect up in DC and viola, problem solved. Magic.

But thanks to such baloney as the foregoing, we now live in a La-La hysteria where the threat of China can easily be ignored, even facilitated to the point of speeding up the willful loss of our own sovereignty while our attention is completely occupied with an unscientific imaginary foe. Global Warming. The Matrix movie trilogy was prophetic as the ready acceptance of a fictitious reality has become the preferred medium. For your side that's another reason regulation is so important. Those of us outside the matrix who breathe a purer atmosphere are dangerous too, and therefore must be controlled and regulated. The best we can by way of the 'Smith program' however is a government of and by the rabid left. 

Define irony. Humanity is indeed under threat, but not from fossil fuels which are the kindly provisions of God's design, the obvious reality your side rejects. But thusly will your self destructive bent to be regulated in every last matter imaginable, find it's culmination at the hands of one man of autonomy.  And it will all happen much quicker than your wildest hopes.

Boy you danced around it once again.
What's wrong with somebody watching ?

Yeah...that was some more two-step. 

It’s like he’s never heard of batteries.    

we’ve witnessed the death of one fossil fuel despite 30 years of hoopleheaded belief it was coming back what makes anyone believe that technology won’t overtake others if the biggest obstacle—-money—isn’t in the way. 

I now see what Galileo was dealing with. 

LOL right. And in you we see what we're dealing with. A little pudgy guy from the unemployment office who should be working while he's on the clock. Not sticking it to the taxpayers who pay his salary dredging up idiocies on Salon.com.

who you talking to?
This sudden dip into socialism has you off your rocker, TRT.  Better sit down in front of Faux News and get a healthy dose tonight.

[vector#1]

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factc...SKBN2AJ2EI

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politi...tural-gas/

https://theweek.com/articles/967062/what...nerability

“On Fox News, Tucker Carlson asserted: "The windmills failed like the silly fashion accessories they are, and people in Texas died."

This is egregiously false. Wind power generation always tends to decline during the winter, and the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT), which manages the Texas power grid, plans for this. Indeed, on Monday wind was exceeding its expected output, and though wind output fell on Tuesday, solar was making up much of the difference.

As Princeton engineering professor Jesse Jenkins points out, the real primary culprit was the mass failure of nuclear, coal, and natural gas (or "thermal") power plants. At the peak of the blackout something like 27,000 megawatts of thermal capacity were offline — or nearly 40 percent of Texas's entire thermal capacity. So far it is unclear which plants exactly were down, but it seems that it was mainly natural gas to blame, as pipes were frozen and the extreme cold stoked high demand for gas heating. But the cold also knocked out some coal capacity and at least one nuclear power plant, and also damaged a lot of transmission infrastructure.

I really could do this all day, and post hundreds of articles saying the same thing “fossil fuels failed Texans.”

LIAR!!!
Where did ever say pipelines froze?

Come on, TRT.  Why can’t we come together and support more government/taxpayer money for all sources of energy; Instead of he said/he said?  I’ll forgive you for parroting some of Tucker’s talking points, and we can agree on the govt regulating energy companies to make them more reliable, efficient, and sustainable.

I could care less if you forgive me or not. I don't watch Tucker, never particularly cared for him. Larry Kudlow however has been close to the deceit Dems have planned for the US in the immediate future. If getting together means keeping fossils online while allowing green energy to develop, I'm okay with that. That's not what's going on.

Anybody looking to be lied to by the left can go on the internet and find the liberal talking points. The Austin American-Statesman is in fact a Texas media outlet and a respected one at that. Politifact is anything but biased for the conservative side and they are not about to give up any props to support them on something that would be as thin as you're trying to let on. The collaborative leftist Academia, especially the pinch nosed elitists of the IVY League, are, and are going to be all-in on making any contribution they can towards the fulfillment of the liberal wish list now that they have the white house and both houses of congress.

They're doing their part, you're doing your part. It's all still a pack of lies meant to drum up public support for the green new deal. You're not fooling anybody other than vector. BTW, is it not about time you pm'd him with more liberal drivel to put up?

what are you defending?  
you misread what I said and carried on a strawman argument for 6 or 7 posts now.

Are you saying fossil fuel system didn’t fail and the only problem was wind energy?  

You know that’s a lie.  Elementary math disproves that.  

Well, you must watch Cucker Tarlson then because much of the stuff you put on here is word for word of the Faux New’s white nationalist superstar Tucker Carlson.  

Mark it down ...April 16th TRT is begging for more government to save the dying fossil fuels.   

I liked it so much I’ll say it again:  you conservatives love your socialism when it benefits what you believe in

---

American energy production was the standard of the entire world as it was. Then the desk bound pudding cups of the left whose religion is global warming, retroengineered falsified data to support their self imagined impending doom and declared that fossil fuels were about to destroy humanity. Now supposedly, wind that doesn't blow all the time, and the sun which doesn't shine all the time, can just magically overnight stretch it's capacity from 3% of US need to 100%. Like as was the reasoning started by Obama, all one must do is sign a piece of paper to that effect up in DC and viola, problem solved. Magic.

But thanks to such baloney as the foregoing, we now live in a La-La hysteria where the threat of China can easily be ignored, even facilitated to the point of speeding up the willful loss of our own sovereignty while our attention is completely occupied with an unscientific imaginary foe. Global Warming. The Matrix movie trilogy was prophetic as the ready acceptance of a fictitious reality has become the preferred medium. For your side that's another reason regulation is so important. Those of us outside the matrix who breathe a purer atmosphere are dangerous too, and therefore must be controlled and regulated. The best we can by way of the 'Smith program' however is a government of and by the rabid left. 

Define irony. Humanity is indeed under threat, but not from fossil fuels which are the kindly provisions of God's design, the obvious reality your side rejects. But thusly will your self destructive bent to be regulated in every last matter imaginable, find it's culmination at the hands of one man of autonomy.  And it will all happen much quicker than your wildest hopes.

Boy you danced around it once again.
What's wrong with somebody watching ?

Yeah...that was some more two-step. 

It’s like he’s never heard of batteries.    

we’ve witnessed the death of one fossil fuel despite 30 years of hoopleheaded belief it was coming back what makes anyone believe that technology won’t overtake others if the biggest obstacle—-money—isn’t in the way. 

I now see what Galileo was dealing with. 

LOL right. And in you we see what we're dealing with. A little pudgy guy from the unemployment office who should be working while he's on the clock. Not sticking it to the taxpayers who pay his salary dredging up idiocies on Salon.com.

And once again dodge, spin, and anything but admit wrong

[TheRealThing]

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factc...SKBN2AJ2EI

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politi...tural-gas/

https://theweek.com/articles/967062/what...nerability

“On Fox News, Tucker Carlson asserted: "The windmills failed like the silly fashion accessories they are, and people in Texas died."

This is egregiously false. Wind power generation always tends to decline during the winter, and the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT), which manages the Texas power grid, plans for this. Indeed, on Monday wind was exceeding its expected output, and though wind output fell on Tuesday, solar was making up much of the difference.

As Princeton engineering professor Jesse Jenkins points out, the real primary culprit was the mass failure of nuclear, coal, and natural gas (or "thermal") power plants. At the peak of the blackout something like 27,000 megawatts of thermal capacity were offline — or nearly 40 percent of Texas's entire thermal capacity. So far it is unclear which plants exactly were down, but it seems that it was mainly natural gas to blame, as pipes were frozen and the extreme cold stoked high demand for gas heating. But the cold also knocked out some coal capacity and at least one nuclear power plant, and also damaged a lot of transmission infrastructure.

I really could do this all day, and post hundreds of articles saying the same thing “fossil fuels failed Texans.”

LIAR!!!
Where did ever say pipelines froze?

Come on, TRT.  Why can’t we come together and support more government/taxpayer money for all sources of energy; Instead of he said/he said?  I’ll forgive you for parroting some of Tucker’s talking points, and we can agree on the govt regulating energy companies to make them more reliable, efficient, and sustainable.

I could care less if you forgive me or not. I don't watch Tucker, never particularly cared for him. Larry Kudlow however has been close to the deceit Dems have planned for the US in the immediate future. If getting together means keeping fossils online while allowing green energy to develop, I'm okay with that. That's not what's going on.

Anybody looking to be lied to by the left can go on the internet and find the liberal talking points. The Austin American-Statesman is in fact a Texas media outlet and a respected one at that. Politifact is anything but biased for the conservative side and they are not about to give up any props to support them on something that would be as thin as you're trying to let on. The collaborative leftist Academia, especially the pinch nosed elitists of the IVY League, are, and are going to be all-in on making any contribution they can towards the fulfillment of the liberal wish list now that they have the white house and both houses of congress.

They're doing their part, you're doing your part. It's all still a pack of lies meant to drum up public support for the green new deal. You're not fooling anybody other than vector. BTW, is it not about time you pm'd him with more liberal drivel to put up?

what are you defending?  
you misread what I said and carried on a strawman argument for 6 or 7 posts now.

Are you saying fossil fuel system didn’t fail and the only problem was wind energy?  

You know that’s a lie.  Elementary math disproves that.  

Well, you must watch Cucker Tarlson then because much of the stuff you put on here is word for word of the Faux New’s white nationalist superstar Tucker Carlson.  

Mark it down ...April 16th TRT is begging for more government to save the dying fossil fuels.   

I liked it so much I’ll say it again:  you conservatives love your socialism when it benefits what you believe in

---

American energy production was the standard of the entire world as it was. Then the desk bound pudding cups of the left whose religion is global warming, retroengineered falsified data to support their self imagined impending doom and declared that fossil fuels were about to destroy humanity. Now supposedly, wind that doesn't blow all the time, and the sun which doesn't shine all the time, can just magically overnight stretch it's capacity from 3% of US need to 100%. Like as was the reasoning started by Obama, all one must do is sign a piece of paper to that effect up in DC and viola, problem solved. Magic.

But thanks to such baloney as the foregoing, we now live in a La-La hysteria where the threat of China can easily be ignored, even facilitated to the point of speeding up the willful loss of our own sovereignty while our attention is completely occupied with an unscientific imaginary foe. Global Warming. The Matrix movie trilogy was prophetic as the ready acceptance of a fictitious reality has become the preferred medium. For your side that's another reason regulation is so important. Those of us outside the matrix who breathe a purer atmosphere are dangerous too, and therefore must be controlled and regulated. The best we can by way of the 'Smith program' however is a government of and by the rabid left. 

Define irony. Humanity is indeed under threat, but not from fossil fuels which are the kindly provisions of God's design, the obvious reality your side rejects. But thusly will your self destructive bent to be regulated in every last matter imaginable, find it's culmination at the hands of one man of autonomy.  And it will all happen much quicker than your wildest hopes.

Boy you danced around it once again.
What's wrong with somebody watching ?

Yeah...that was some more two-step. 

It’s like he’s never heard of batteries.    

we’ve witnessed the death of one fossil fuel despite 30 years of hoopleheaded belief it was coming back what makes anyone believe that technology won’t overtake others if the biggest obstacle—-money—isn’t in the way. 

I now see what Galileo was dealing with. 

LOL right. And in you we see what we're dealing with. A little pudgy guy from the unemployment office who should be working while he's on the clock. Not sticking it to the taxpayers who pay his salary dredging up idiocies on Salon.com.

who you talking to?
This sudden dip into socialism has you off your rocker, TRT.  Better sit down in front of Faux News and get a healthy dose tonight.

You fly a desk and work for the govt

[Cardfan1]

I could care less if you forgive me or not. I don't watch Tucker, never particularly cared for him. Larry Kudlow however has been close to the deceit Dems have planned for the US in the immediate future. If getting together means keeping fossils online while allowing green energy to develop, I'm okay with that. That's not what's going on.

Anybody looking to be lied to by the left can go on the internet and find the liberal talking points. The Austin American-Statesman is in fact a Texas media outlet and a respected one at that. Politifact is anything but biased for the conservative side and they are not about to give up any props to support them on something that would be as thin as you're trying to let on. The collaborative leftist Academia, especially the pinch nosed elitists of the IVY League, are, and are going to be all-in on making any contribution they can towards the fulfillment of the liberal wish list now that they have the white house and both houses of congress.

They're doing their part, you're doing your part. It's all still a pack of lies meant to drum up public support for the green new deal. You're not fooling anybody other than vector. BTW, is it not about time you pm'd him with more liberal drivel to put up?

what are you defending?  
you misread what I said and carried on a strawman argument for 6 or 7 posts now.

Are you saying fossil fuel system didn’t fail and the only problem was wind energy?  

You know that’s a lie.  Elementary math disproves that.  

Well, you must watch Cucker Tarlson then because much of the stuff you put on here is word for word of the Faux New’s white nationalist superstar Tucker Carlson.  

Mark it down ...April 16th TRT is begging for more government to save the dying fossil fuels.   

I liked it so much I’ll say it again:  you conservatives love your socialism when it benefits what you believe in

---

Boy you danced around it once again.
What's wrong with somebody watching ?

Yeah...that was some more two-step. 

It’s like he’s never heard of batteries.    

we’ve witnessed the death of one fossil fuel despite 30 years of hoopleheaded belief it was coming back what makes anyone believe that technology won’t overtake others if the biggest obstacle—-money—isn’t in the way. 

I now see what Galileo was dealing with. 

LOL right. And in you we see what we're dealing with. A little pudgy guy from the unemployment office who should be working while he's on the clock. Not sticking it to the taxpayers who pay his salary dredging up idiocies on Salon.com.

who you talking to?
This sudden dip into socialism has you off your rocker, TRT.  Better sit down in front of Faux News and get a healthy dose tonight.

You fly a desk and work for the govt

No, I don’t.  But I wouldn’t bash those folks they are overworked and underpaid like most govt workers. 

 Man, why you so worried about people’s lives.  At no point have any of the left leaning folks on here ever asked about you or Hooter or any others. 

Faux News has created a false narrative of Democrats and you guys swallow it hook, line, and sinker.  

Most aren’t evil, stupid, lazy, gungrabbers, communists, babykillers, or any other moronic stereotypes you’ve been feed.

[TheRealThing]

what are you defending?  
you misread what I said and carried on a strawman argument for 6 or 7 posts now.

Are you saying fossil fuel system didn’t fail and the only problem was wind energy?  

You know that’s a lie.  Elementary math disproves that.  

Well, you must watch Cucker Tarlson then because much of the stuff you put on here is word for word of the Faux New’s white nationalist superstar Tucker Carlson.  

Mark it down ...April 16th TRT is begging for more government to save the dying fossil fuels.   

I liked it so much I’ll say it again:  you conservatives love your socialism when it benefits what you believe in

---

Yeah...that was some more two-step. 

It’s like he’s never heard of batteries.    

we’ve witnessed the death of one fossil fuel despite 30 years of hoopleheaded belief it was coming back what makes anyone believe that technology won’t overtake others if the biggest obstacle—-money—isn’t in the way. 

I now see what Galileo was dealing with. 

LOL right. And in you we see what we're dealing with. A little pudgy guy from the unemployment office who should be working while he's on the clock. Not sticking it to the taxpayers who pay his salary dredging up idiocies on Salon.com.

who you talking to?
This sudden dip into socialism has you off your rocker, TRT.  Better sit down in front of Faux News and get a healthy dose tonight.

You fly a desk and work for the govt

No, I don’t.  But I wouldn’t bash those folks they are overworked and underpaid like most govt workers. 

 Man, why you so worried about people’s lives.  At no point have any of the left leaning folks on here ever asked about you or Hooter or any others. 

Faux News has created a false narrative of Democrats and you guys swallow it hook, line, and sinker.  

Most aren’t evil, stupid, lazy, gungrabbers, communists, babykillers, or any other moronic stereotypes you’ve been feed.

I know a lot of them and they don't talk like you do.

[Cardfan1]

LOL right. And in you we see what we're dealing with. A little pudgy guy from the unemployment office who should be working while he's on the clock. Not sticking it to the taxpayers who pay his salary dredging up idiocies on Salon.com.

who you talking to?
This sudden dip into socialism has you off your rocker, TRT.  Better sit down in front of Faux News and get a healthy dose tonight.

You fly a desk and work for the govt

No, I don’t.  But I wouldn’t bash those folks they are overworked and underpaid like most govt workers. 

 Man, why you so worried about people’s lives.  At no point have any of the left leaning folks on here ever asked about you or Hooter or any others. 

Faux News has created a false narrative of Democrats and you guys swallow it hook, line, and sinker.  

Most aren’t evil, stupid, lazy, gungrabbers, communists, babykillers, or any other moronic stereotypes you’ve been feed.

I know a lot of them and they don't talk like you do.

I don’t believe that. You wouldn’t spout the things you do if you talked to anybody that was left leaning in the real world.  
Yes, I said left leaning. I’m not even that liberal. I know some liberals.

[TheRealThing]

who you talking to?
This sudden dip into socialism has you off your rocker, TRT.  Better sit down in front of Faux News and get a healthy dose tonight.

You fly a desk and work for the govt

No, I don’t.  But I wouldn’t bash those folks they are overworked and underpaid like most govt workers. 

 Man, why you so worried about people’s lives.  At no point have any of the left leaning folks on here ever asked about you or Hooter or any others. 

Faux News has created a false narrative of Democrats and you guys swallow it hook, line, and sinker.  

Most aren’t evil, stupid, lazy, gungrabbers, communists, babykillers, or any other moronic stereotypes you’ve been feed.

I know a lot of them and they don't talk like you do.

I don’t believe that. You wouldn’t spout the things you do if you talked to anybody that was left leaning in the real world.  
Yes, I said left leaning. I’m not even that liberal. I know some liberals.

The things I spout were the norm up until Obama became president. You'll have to forgive me if I know better than to allow myself to be overtaken by the mindless acceptance of the liberal agenda. I mean, what were the American fundamentals you think Obama was talking about transforming? He did say climate change was the single greatest threat America faces, did he not? Did he not say our attending the Paris accords were a powerful rebuke to terrorists or not? While they were out blowing themselves up, he was talking about transforming the global social sturcture under their very feet. But the agenda is getting rammed through one way or another this time; and at least legislatively, we're talking carbon footprint, 5 dollar plus gasoline, and the overall elimination of fossil fuels prior to November of 2022.

Unlike you, I didn't spend my working life in the confines of some girly world office, where discussions of soap operas rule the day. I worked with some of the hardest liberals that ever took a breath and I'm telling you they don't talk like you do. Now vector is another story. Closed minded and otherwise shallow, they're confused enough to fight a buzzsaw and believe their union contract rules the planet. When in fact union officials and wealthy clients buy each other off at the expense of the membership with regularity and blame it all on Republicans.

But those guys would have defended Dems to the absolute end. You would too from your keyboard and so you do have your talking points in a much straighter row than they, but lies are lies whether one has been tricked himself by them, or just gets a big kick out of putting them out there in a more orderly and concise fashion. AFTR Cardfan, who really cares what a guy who talks like you believes?

In any case, you don't know any more than I do whether the new infrastructure bill will successfully end run fossil fuels or not. I know by the way they talk they will do it if they can. Kudlow says they're going to try their best and I believe him.

[Cardfan1]

You fly a desk and work for the govt

No, I don’t.  But I wouldn’t bash those folks they are overworked and underpaid like most govt workers. 

 Man, why you so worried about people’s lives.  At no point have any of the left leaning folks on here ever asked about you or Hooter or any others. 

Faux News has created a false narrative of Democrats and you guys swallow it hook, line, and sinker.  

Most aren’t evil, stupid, lazy, gungrabbers, communists, babykillers, or any other moronic stereotypes you’ve been feed.

I know a lot of them and they don't talk like you do.

I don’t believe that. You wouldn’t spout the things you do if you talked to anybody that was left leaning in the real world.  
Yes, I said left leaning. I’m not even that liberal. I know some liberals.

The things I spout were the norm up until Obama became president. You'll have to forgive me if I know better than to allow myself to be overtaken by the mindless acceptance of the liberal agenda. I mean, what were the American fundamentals you think Obama was talking about transforming? He did say climate change was the single greatest threat America faces, did he not? Did he not say our attending the Paris accords were a powerful rebuke to terrorists or not? While they were out blowing themselves up, he was talking about transforming the global social sturcture under their very feet. But the agenda is getting rammed through one way or another this time; and at least legislatively, we're talking carbon footprint, 5 dollar plus gasoline, and the overall elimination of fossil fuels prior to November of 2022.

Unlike you, I didn't spend my working life in the confines of some girly world office, where discussions of soap operas rule the day. I worked with some of the hardest liberals that ever took a breath and I'm telling you they don't talk like you do. Now vector is another story. Closed minded and otherwise shallow, they're confused enough to fight a buzzsaw and believe their union contract rules the planet. When in fact union officials and wealthy clients buy each other off at the expense of the membership with regularity and blame it all on Republicans.

But those guys would have defended Dems to the absolute end. you would too from your keyboard, and so you do have your talking points in a much straighter row than they, but lies are lies whether one has been tricked himself by them, or just gets a big kick out of putting them out there in a more orderly and concise fashion. AFTR Cardfan, who really cares what a guy who talks like you believes?

In any case, you don't know any more than I do whether the new infrastructure bill will successfully end run fossil fuels or not. I know by the way they talk they will do it if they can. Kudlow says they're going to try their best and I believe him.

What you spout hasn’t been the norm in 40 years!  

Oh goodness...you got yourself lined back out. Or did you?  You want the government to step in manipulate fossil fuel so gas will be cheap and maintain the status quo.  Communism.  

  Your hero, dear leader never worked in anything but a “girly” office.    As matter of fact all the folks you parrot half never had a callous. They do know how to get the lemmings to follow.  

Unions may become corrupt.  It’s happened.  I still trust them over big businesses.  

apparently you care what I think. You continue to respond with 5 paragraph essays  

The new infrastructure bill will not end fossil fuels. I’m a realist.  GOP will create a culture war, and we will be 20 years behind technology. They will lose an election or two, and then it will be on to the next culture war and Democrats will be left solving the problems.
See Trump Flu and Trump Economy.

[TheRealThing]

No, I don’t.  But I wouldn’t bash those folks they are overworked and underpaid like most govt workers. 

 Man, why you so worried about people’s lives.  At no point have any of the left leaning folks on here ever asked about you or Hooter or any others. 

Faux News has created a false narrative of Democrats and you guys swallow it hook, line, and sinker.  

Most aren’t evil, stupid, lazy, gungrabbers, communists, babykillers, or any other moronic stereotypes you’ve been feed.

I know a lot of them and they don't talk like you do.

I don’t believe that. You wouldn’t spout the things you do if you talked to anybody that was left leaning in the real world.  
Yes, I said left leaning. I’m not even that liberal. I know some liberals.

The things I spout were the norm up until Obama became president. You'll have to forgive me if I know better than to allow myself to be overtaken by the mindless acceptance of the liberal agenda. I mean, what were the American fundamentals you think Obama was talking about transforming? He did say climate change was the single greatest threat America faces, did he not? Did he not say our attending the Paris accords were a powerful rebuke to terrorists or not? While they were out blowing themselves up, he was talking about transforming the global social sturcture under their very feet. But the agenda is getting rammed through one way or another this time; and at least legislatively, we're talking carbon footprint, 5 dollar plus gasoline, and the overall elimination of fossil fuels prior to November of 2022.

Unlike you, I didn't spend my working life in the confines of some girly world office, where discussions of soap operas rule the day. I worked with some of the hardest liberals that ever took a breath and I'm telling you they don't talk like you do. Now vector is another story. Closed minded and otherwise shallow, they're confused enough to fight a buzzsaw and believe their union contract rules the planet. When in fact union officials and wealthy clients buy each other off at the expense of the membership with regularity and blame it all on Republicans.

But those guys would have defended Dems to the absolute end. you would too from your keyboard, and so you do have your talking points in a much straighter row than they, but lies are lies whether one has been tricked himself by them, or just gets a big kick out of putting them out there in a more orderly and concise fashion. AFTR Cardfan, who really cares what a guy who talks like you believes?

In any case, you don't know any more than I do whether the new infrastructure bill will successfully end run fossil fuels or not. I know by the way they talk they will do it if they can. Kudlow says they're going to try their best and I believe him.

What you spout hasn’t been the norm in 40 years!  

Oh goodness...you got yourself lined back out. Or did you?  You want the government to step in manipulate fossil fuel so gas will be cheap and maintain the status quo.  Communism.  

  Your hero, dear leader never worked in anything but a “girly” office.    As matter of fact all the folks you parrot half never had a callous. They do know how to get the lemmings to follow.  

Unions may become corrupt.  It’s happened.  I still trust them over big businesses.  

apparently you care what I think. You continue to respond with 5 paragraph essays  

The new infrastructure bill will not end fossil fuels. I’m a realist.  GOP will create a culture war, and we will be 20 years behind technology. They will lose an election or two, and then it will be on to the next culture war and Democrats will be left solving the problems.
See Trump Flu and Trump Economy.

Not the norm for 40 years huh? Funny thing about that is Trump said the exact same stuff and got elected President of the land four years ago. As did Ronald Reagan in 1980. He was President for 8 years which puts us nearing the 90's and so as usual, just about every word you type is a lie.

But you do work in a girly office. You talk like a girl, you gossip like a girl, you project your glaring faults like a girl, and you can't be wrong like a girl. I would say you fight like a girl but my money says you chew your fingernails, so there goes scratching someone's eyes out. This one thing I'll give you though, where it comes to your forte, you lie like a dog.

[vector#1]

I know a lot of them and they don't talk like you do.

I don’t believe that. You wouldn’t spout the things you do if you talked to anybody that was left leaning in the real world.  
Yes, I said left leaning. I’m not even that liberal. I know some liberals.

The things I spout were the norm up until Obama became president. You'll have to forgive me if I know better than to allow myself to be overtaken by the mindless acceptance of the liberal agenda. I mean, what were the American fundamentals you think Obama was talking about transforming? He did say climate change was the single greatest threat America faces, did he not? Did he not say our attending the Paris accords were a powerful rebuke to terrorists or not? While they were out blowing themselves up, he was talking about transforming the global social sturcture under their very feet. But the agenda is getting rammed through one way or another this time; and at least legislatively, we're talking carbon footprint, 5 dollar plus gasoline, and the overall elimination of fossil fuels prior to November of 2022.

Unlike you, I didn't spend my working life in the confines of some girly world office, where discussions of soap operas rule the day. I worked with some of the hardest liberals that ever took a breath and I'm telling you they don't talk like you do. Now vector is another story. Closed minded and otherwise shallow, they're confused enough to fight a buzzsaw and believe their union contract rules the planet. When in fact union officials and wealthy clients buy each other off at the expense of the membership with regularity and blame it all on Republicans.

But those guys would have defended Dems to the absolute end. you would too from your keyboard, and so you do have your talking points in a much straighter row than they, but lies are lies whether one has been tricked himself by them, or just gets a big kick out of putting them out there in a more orderly and concise fashion. AFTR Cardfan, who really cares what a guy who talks like you believes?

In any case, you don't know any more than I do whether the new infrastructure bill will successfully end run fossil fuels or not. I know by the way they talk they will do it if they can. Kudlow says they're going to try their best and I believe him.

What you spout hasn’t been the norm in 40 years!  

Oh goodness...you got yourself lined back out. Or did you?  You want the government to step in manipulate fossil fuel so gas will be cheap and maintain the status quo.  Communism.  

  Your hero, dear leader never worked in anything but a “girly” office.    As matter of fact all the folks you parrot half never had a callous. They do know how to get the lemmings to follow.  

Unions may become corrupt.  It’s happened.  I still trust them over big businesses.  

apparently you care what I think. You continue to respond with 5 paragraph essays  

The new infrastructure bill will not end fossil fuels. I’m a realist.  GOP will create a culture war, and we will be 20 years behind technology. They will lose an election or two, and then it will be on to the next culture war and Democrats will be left solving the problems.
See Trump Flu and Trump Economy.

Not the norm for 40 years huh? Funny thing about that is Trump said the exact same stuff and got elected President of the land four years ago. As did Ronald Reagan in 1980. He was President for 8 years which puts us nearing the 90's and so as usual, just about every word you type is a lie.

But you do work in a girly office. You talk like a girl, you gossip like a girl, you project your glaring faults like a girl, and you can't be wrong like a girl. I would say you fight like a girl but my money says you chew your fingernails, so there goes scratching someone's eyes out.  This one thing I'll give you though, where it comes to your forte, you lie like a dog.

As bad as Reagan was it's NO comparison to Dear Leader shame on you for even mention Dear Leader in same sentence as Reagan
Don't forget Dear Leader lost the popular vote by over 3 million and he was helped by the Russians