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04-13-2021, 06:03 PM
No one out there any smarter than VDH in my opinion. Perfectly stated and right on the money.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/radical-...vis-hanson
There are 10 new ideas that are changing America, maybe permanently.
1. Money is a construct. It can be created from thin air. Annual deficits and aggregate national debt no longer matter much.
Prior presidents ran up huge annual deficits, but at least there were some concessions that the money was real and had to be paid back. Not now. As we near $30 trillion in national debt and 110 percent of annual GDP, our elites either believe permanent zero interest rates make the cascading obligation irrelevant, or the larger the debt, the more likely we will be forced to address needed income redistribution.
2. Laws are not necessarily binding anymore. Joe Biden took an oath to "take care that the laws be faithfully executed." But he has willfully rendered federal immigration laws null and void. Some rioters are prosecuted for violating federal laws, others not so much. Arrests, prosecutions and trials are all fluid. Ideology governs when a law is still considered a law.
[Image: https://a57.foxnews.com/cf-images.us-eas...?ve=1&tl=1][color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.2)]Video[/color]
Crime rates do not necessarily matter. If someone is carjacked, assaulted or shot, it can be understood to be as much the victim’s fault as the perpetrator’s. Either the victim was too lax, uncaring and insensitive, or he provoked his attacker.
How useful the crime is to the larger agendas of the left determines whether a victim is really a victim, and the victimizer really a victimizer.
3. Racialism is now acceptable. We are defined first by our ethnicity or religion, and only secondarily — if at all — by an American commonality. The explicit exclusion of whites from college dorms, safe spaces and federal aid programs is now noncontroversial. It is unspoken payback for perceived past sins, or a type of "good" racism. Falsely being called a racist makes one more guilty than falsely calling someone else a racist.
4. The immigrant is mostly preferable to the citizen. The newcomer, unlike the host, is not stained by the sins of America’s founding and history. Most citizens currently must follow quarantine rules and social distancing, stay out of school and obey all the laws.
Yet those entering the United States illegally need not follow such apparently superfluous COVID-19 rules. Their children should be immediately schooled without worry of quarantine. Immigrants need not worry about their illegal entry or residence in America. Our elites believe illegal entrants more closely resemble the "founders" than do legal citizens, about half of whom they consider irredeemable.
5. Most Americans should be treated as we would treat little children. They cannot be asked to provide an ID to vote. "Noble lies" by our elites about COVID-19 rules are necessary to protect "Neanderthals" from themselves.
Americans deserve relief from the stress of grades, standardized testing and normative rules of school behavior. They still are clueless about why it is good for them to pay far more for their gasoline, heating and air conditioning.
6. Hypocrisy is passé. Virtue-signaling is alive. Climate change activists fly on private jets. Social justice warriors live in gated communities. Multibillionaire elitists pose as victims of sexism, racism and homophobia. The elite need these exemptions to help the helpless. It is what you say to lesser others about how to live, not how you yourself live, that matters.
7. Ignoring or perpetuating homelessness is preferable to ending it. It is more humane to let thousands of homeless people live, eat, defecate and use drugs on public streets and sidewalks than it is to green-light affordable housing, mandate hospitalization for the mentally ill and create sufficient public shelter areas.
8. McCarthyism is good. Destroying lives and careers for incorrect thoughts saves more lives and careers. Cancel culture and the Twitter Reign of Terror provide needed deterrence.
Now that Americans know they are one wrong word, act or look away from losing their livelihoods, they are more careful and will behave in a more enlightened fashion. The social media guillotine is the humane, scientific tool of the woke.
9. Ignorance is preferable to knowledge. Neither statue-toppling, nor name-changing, nor the 1619 Project require any evidence or historical knowledge. Heroes of the past were simple constructs. Undergraduate, graduate and professional degrees reflect credentials, not knowledge. The brand, not what created it, is all that matters.
10. Wokeness is the new religion, growing faster and larger than Christianity. Its priesthood outnumbers the clergy and exercises far more power. Silicon Valley is the new Vatican, and Amazon, Apple, Facebook, Google and Twitter are the new gospels.
Americans privately fear these rules while publicly appearing to accept them. They still could be transitory and invite a reaction. Or they are already near-permanent and institutionalized.
The answer determines whether a constitutional republic continues as once envisioned, or warps into something never imagined by those who created it.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/radical-...vis-hanson
There are 10 new ideas that are changing America, maybe permanently.
1. Money is a construct. It can be created from thin air. Annual deficits and aggregate national debt no longer matter much.
Prior presidents ran up huge annual deficits, but at least there were some concessions that the money was real and had to be paid back. Not now. As we near $30 trillion in national debt and 110 percent of annual GDP, our elites either believe permanent zero interest rates make the cascading obligation irrelevant, or the larger the debt, the more likely we will be forced to address needed income redistribution.
2. Laws are not necessarily binding anymore. Joe Biden took an oath to "take care that the laws be faithfully executed." But he has willfully rendered federal immigration laws null and void. Some rioters are prosecuted for violating federal laws, others not so much. Arrests, prosecutions and trials are all fluid. Ideology governs when a law is still considered a law.
[Image: https://a57.foxnews.com/cf-images.us-eas...?ve=1&tl=1][color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.2)]Video[/color]
Crime rates do not necessarily matter. If someone is carjacked, assaulted or shot, it can be understood to be as much the victim’s fault as the perpetrator’s. Either the victim was too lax, uncaring and insensitive, or he provoked his attacker.
How useful the crime is to the larger agendas of the left determines whether a victim is really a victim, and the victimizer really a victimizer.
3. Racialism is now acceptable. We are defined first by our ethnicity or religion, and only secondarily — if at all — by an American commonality. The explicit exclusion of whites from college dorms, safe spaces and federal aid programs is now noncontroversial. It is unspoken payback for perceived past sins, or a type of "good" racism. Falsely being called a racist makes one more guilty than falsely calling someone else a racist.
4. The immigrant is mostly preferable to the citizen. The newcomer, unlike the host, is not stained by the sins of America’s founding and history. Most citizens currently must follow quarantine rules and social distancing, stay out of school and obey all the laws.
Yet those entering the United States illegally need not follow such apparently superfluous COVID-19 rules. Their children should be immediately schooled without worry of quarantine. Immigrants need not worry about their illegal entry or residence in America. Our elites believe illegal entrants more closely resemble the "founders" than do legal citizens, about half of whom they consider irredeemable.
5. Most Americans should be treated as we would treat little children. They cannot be asked to provide an ID to vote. "Noble lies" by our elites about COVID-19 rules are necessary to protect "Neanderthals" from themselves.
Americans deserve relief from the stress of grades, standardized testing and normative rules of school behavior. They still are clueless about why it is good for them to pay far more for their gasoline, heating and air conditioning.
6. Hypocrisy is passé. Virtue-signaling is alive. Climate change activists fly on private jets. Social justice warriors live in gated communities. Multibillionaire elitists pose as victims of sexism, racism and homophobia. The elite need these exemptions to help the helpless. It is what you say to lesser others about how to live, not how you yourself live, that matters.
7. Ignoring or perpetuating homelessness is preferable to ending it. It is more humane to let thousands of homeless people live, eat, defecate and use drugs on public streets and sidewalks than it is to green-light affordable housing, mandate hospitalization for the mentally ill and create sufficient public shelter areas.
8. McCarthyism is good. Destroying lives and careers for incorrect thoughts saves more lives and careers. Cancel culture and the Twitter Reign of Terror provide needed deterrence.
Now that Americans know they are one wrong word, act or look away from losing their livelihoods, they are more careful and will behave in a more enlightened fashion. The social media guillotine is the humane, scientific tool of the woke.
9. Ignorance is preferable to knowledge. Neither statue-toppling, nor name-changing, nor the 1619 Project require any evidence or historical knowledge. Heroes of the past were simple constructs. Undergraduate, graduate and professional degrees reflect credentials, not knowledge. The brand, not what created it, is all that matters.
10. Wokeness is the new religion, growing faster and larger than Christianity. Its priesthood outnumbers the clergy and exercises far more power. Silicon Valley is the new Vatican, and Amazon, Apple, Facebook, Google and Twitter are the new gospels.
Americans privately fear these rules while publicly appearing to accept them. They still could be transitory and invite a reaction. Or they are already near-permanent and institutionalized.
The answer determines whether a constitutional republic continues as once envisioned, or warps into something never imagined by those who created it.
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I prefer Caturd to this dude.
Your jet fuel is full of manure, JP.
2. Haven’t been applicable to the rich for years. See DJT.
3. True. It’s now ok to believe you have the right to invade the Capitol of the US.
4. What an ignorant statement. Considering these people are seeking asylum from cartel controlled countries that the US has turned its back on. We have reaped what we have sown.
5. Who knew the next statement could be more ignorant? It’s like a half a million people didn’t die of a disease. Lots of topics in that one to confuse the morons who believe in this idiot.
6. It’s not a crime if you are rich so all these crimes are fake. Oh boy...this guy should write a book on fallacy. He is a master.
7. WTH, he rocks me with a common sense idea that zero conservatives agree with.
8. :D Must hurt to be on the other side of being called out for racism, bigotry, and sexism. It’s easy. Don’t be an A-hole and you won’t be cancelled.
9. What?! Devaluing educated folks because you don’t like what they say?!
10. Say what?! I thought Christianity was alive and well!!!
Wokeness is kindness. It’s an attempt to reach out to neighbors who may need help and who may be weak. Something I would have expected of Christians and Americans, but I have found out that isn’t true.
Your jet fuel is full of manure, JP.
(04-13-2021, 07:18 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: I prefer Caturd to this dude.1. True. FIAT money is dead.
Your jet fuel is full of manure, JP.
2. Haven’t been applicable to the rich for years. See DJT.
3. True. It’s now ok to believe you have the right to invade the Capitol of the US.
4. What an ignorant statement. Considering these people are seeking asylum from cartel controlled countries that the US has turned its back on. We have reaped what we have sown.
5. Who knew the next statement could be more ignorant? It’s like a half a million people didn’t die of a disease. Lots of topics in that one to confuse the morons who believe in this idiot.
6. It’s not a crime if you are rich so all these crimes are fake. Oh boy...this guy should write a book on fallacy. He is a master.
7. WTH, he rocks me with a common sense idea that zero conservatives agree with.
8. :D Must hurt to be on the other side of being called out for racism, bigotry, and sexism. It’s easy. Don’t be an A-hole and you won’t be cancelled.
9. What?! Devaluing educated folks because you don’t like what they say?!
10. Say what?! I thought Christianity was alive and well!!!
Wokeness is kindness. It’s an attempt to reach out to neighbors who may need help and who may be weak. Something I would have expected of Christians and Americans, but I have found out that isn’t true.
04-13-2021, 09:49 PM
(04-13-2021, 06:03 PM)jetpilot Wrote: No one out there any smarter than VDH in my opinion. Perfectly stated and right on the money.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/radical-...vis-hanson
There are 10 new ideas that are changing America, maybe permanently.
1. Money is a construct. It can be created from thin air. Annual deficits and aggregate national debt no longer matter much.
Prior presidents ran up huge annual deficits, but at least there were some concessions that the money was real and had to be paid back. Not now. As we near $30 trillion in national debt and 110 percent of annual GDP, our elites either believe permanent zero interest rates make the cascading obligation irrelevant, or the larger the debt, the more likely we will be forced to address needed income redistribution.
2. Laws are not necessarily binding anymore. Joe Biden took an oath to "take care that the laws be faithfully executed." But he has willfully rendered federal immigration laws null and void. Some rioters are prosecuted for violating federal laws, others not so much. Arrests, prosecutions and trials are all fluid. Ideology governs when a law is still considered a law.
[Image: https://a57.foxnews.com/cf-images.us-eas...?ve=1&tl=1][color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.2)]Video[/color]
Crime rates do not necessarily matter. If someone is carjacked, assaulted or shot, it can be understood to be as much the victim’s fault as the perpetrator’s. Either the victim was too lax, uncaring and insensitive, or he provoked his attacker.
How useful the crime is to the larger agendas of the left determines whether a victim is really a victim, and the victimizer really a victimizer.
3. Racialism is now acceptable. We are defined first by our ethnicity or religion, and only secondarily — if at all — by an American commonality. The explicit exclusion of whites from college dorms, safe spaces and federal aid programs is now noncontroversial. It is unspoken payback for perceived past sins, or a type of "good" racism. Falsely being called a racist makes one more guilty than falsely calling someone else a racist.
4. The immigrant is mostly preferable to the citizen. The newcomer, unlike the host, is not stained by the sins of America’s founding and history. Most citizens currently must follow quarantine rules and social distancing, stay out of school and obey all the laws.
Yet those entering the United States illegally need not follow such apparently superfluous COVID-19 rules. Their children should be immediately schooled without worry of quarantine. Immigrants need not worry about their illegal entry or residence in America. Our elites believe illegal entrants more closely resemble the "founders" than do legal citizens, about half of whom they consider irredeemable.
5. Most Americans should be treated as we would treat little children. They cannot be asked to provide an ID to vote. "Noble lies" by our elites about COVID-19 rules are necessary to protect "Neanderthals" from themselves.
Americans deserve relief from the stress of grades, standardized testing and normative rules of school behavior. They still are clueless about why it is good for them to pay far more for their gasoline, heating and air conditioning.
6. Hypocrisy is passé. Virtue-signaling is alive. Climate change activists fly on private jets. Social justice warriors live in gated communities. Multibillionaire elitists pose as victims of sexism, racism and homophobia. The elite need these exemptions to help the helpless. It is what you say to lesser others about how to live, not how you yourself live, that matters.
7. Ignoring or perpetuating homelessness is preferable to ending it. It is more humane to let thousands of homeless people live, eat, defecate and use drugs on public streets and sidewalks than it is to green-light affordable housing, mandate hospitalization for the mentally ill and create sufficient public shelter areas.
8. McCarthyism is good. Destroying lives and careers for incorrect thoughts saves more lives and careers. Cancel culture and the Twitter Reign of Terror provide needed deterrence.
Now that Americans know they are one wrong word, act or look away from losing their livelihoods, they are more careful and will behave in a more enlightened fashion. The social media guillotine is the humane, scientific tool of the woke.
9. Ignorance is preferable to knowledge. Neither statue-toppling, nor name-changing, nor the 1619 Project require any evidence or historical knowledge. Heroes of the past were simple constructs. Undergraduate, graduate and professional degrees reflect credentials, not knowledge. The brand, not what created it, is all that matters.
10. Wokeness is the new religion, growing faster and larger than Christianity. Its priesthood outnumbers the clergy and exercises far more power. Silicon Valley is the new Vatican, and Amazon, Apple, Facebook, Google and Twitter are the new gospels.
Americans privately fear these rules while publicly appearing to accept them. They still could be transitory and invite a reaction. Or they are already near-permanent and institutionalized.
The answer determines whether a constitutional republic continues as once envisioned, or warps into something never imagined by those who created it.
He started pretty good with #1, but quickly dissolved into mostly nonsense, with a couple of good points spread in here and there.
04-13-2021, 10:24 PM
(04-13-2021, 10:15 PM)jetpilot Wrote: Dumb people should hang out with you guys. You would make them look smart by comparison.catturd tell you to say that ?
seriously, some of this dude’s points are moronic and out of date by more than 30 years.
which one really motivates you, Jetliner? I’d like to discuss.
04-13-2021, 11:08 PM
(04-13-2021, 10:15 PM)jetpilot Wrote: Dumb people should hang out with you guys. You would make them look smart by comparison.
Great post Jet. Victor Davis Hanson is exactly right in what he is saying. And of course, Cardfan is either lying, or insane, or both.
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04-14-2021, 08:59 AM
04-14-2021, 12:28 PM
(This post was last modified: 04-14-2021, 12:35 PM by TheRealThing.)
^^ I have always been fascinated with the idea of money, I mean what is it really? Gold is something you dig up out of the ground as are all gem stones and the other precious metals. I mean, other than some late breaking applications in the technology field in the case of precious metals, they don't really have that much of a function. And then there has always been the jewelry industry. But it's sort of a mystery why or how the perceived wealth of those things have driven world economy since the beginning.
But as to point 3, racism is now acceptable. To award people things, and privilege, over other people based solely on race, IS the definition of racism. And BLM et-al are totally all-in on the practice. VDH is right about the college deal too. The bottom line is all D-1 blue chip athletes get scholarships, and they're really the only ones who do, openly. Under the table it's a brave new world. If you're white and not quite a D-1 blue chip athlete, most of the time you pay to go to school. Meanwhile an awful lot of the black athletes do not pay. That's just the un-aired fact of the matter.
Same is true with this idea of reparations and further, critical race theory. CRT (of late) demands that the views of white people be excluded from the conversation. What we have now as the result are exclusively, the views of Asians, Latinos and Blacks. So whites who have evolved out of consideration in the CRT school of thought, have no voice whatever in CRT. And thus stand accused before their minority critics as suffering from white privilege, and are therefore incapable of understanding and maybe even unworthy, to take part in the discourse.
The genie is out of he bottle and IMHO the marches and violence will not ever stop. Nor will increasing demands placed on whites to just shut up and take it. If government are in on it, one can see that the predominate race in America has been totally outflanked and are therefore left without option. Instead of having a Speaker of the House whose 'go-to,' is throwing the people's checkbook at every last problem, we should insist on level headed compromise. Why? Because all Americans deserve and are promised equal representation. And frankly, the era in question happened before most people alive today were even here. But how could the white race retain equal representation just by giving CRT proponents cosigner status on the people's checkbook?
In other words the train of thought seems to be, though the injustices leading up to the civil rights era may have been epically immoral, it's nonetheless A-okay now, for minorities to use racism as the vehicle to carry them to an acceptable level of restitution. VDH is right, and both sides of this mess better figure out how to forgive each other if we are to get past it.
CRT-- https://scholarship.law.cornell.edu/cgi/...text=cjlpp
But as to point 3, racism is now acceptable. To award people things, and privilege, over other people based solely on race, IS the definition of racism. And BLM et-al are totally all-in on the practice. VDH is right about the college deal too. The bottom line is all D-1 blue chip athletes get scholarships, and they're really the only ones who do, openly. Under the table it's a brave new world. If you're white and not quite a D-1 blue chip athlete, most of the time you pay to go to school. Meanwhile an awful lot of the black athletes do not pay. That's just the un-aired fact of the matter.
Same is true with this idea of reparations and further, critical race theory. CRT (of late) demands that the views of white people be excluded from the conversation. What we have now as the result are exclusively, the views of Asians, Latinos and Blacks. So whites who have evolved out of consideration in the CRT school of thought, have no voice whatever in CRT. And thus stand accused before their minority critics as suffering from white privilege, and are therefore incapable of understanding and maybe even unworthy, to take part in the discourse.
The genie is out of he bottle and IMHO the marches and violence will not ever stop. Nor will increasing demands placed on whites to just shut up and take it. If government are in on it, one can see that the predominate race in America has been totally outflanked and are therefore left without option. Instead of having a Speaker of the House whose 'go-to,' is throwing the people's checkbook at every last problem, we should insist on level headed compromise. Why? Because all Americans deserve and are promised equal representation. And frankly, the era in question happened before most people alive today were even here. But how could the white race retain equal representation just by giving CRT proponents cosigner status on the people's checkbook?
In other words the train of thought seems to be, though the injustices leading up to the civil rights era may have been epically immoral, it's nonetheless A-okay now, for minorities to use racism as the vehicle to carry them to an acceptable level of restitution. VDH is right, and both sides of this mess better figure out how to forgive each other if we are to get past it.
CRT-- https://scholarship.law.cornell.edu/cgi/...text=cjlpp
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04-14-2021, 09:13 PM
04-14-2021, 09:35 PM
(04-14-2021, 09:13 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:(04-14-2021, 08:47 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:I like seeing what you guys really think.(04-14-2021, 07:56 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Better get to studying Crypto, TRT.
What are you doing reading or posting on this thread? Just saw you condemn VDH as a moron operating on ideas proven defunct 30 years ago.
I get it. You guys try to change everything from morality to ethics to the US Constitution over the course of several years, and then act like you're dumbfounded to think that most of America still clings to reality.
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04-14-2021, 09:39 PM
(04-14-2021, 09:35 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:Something like that.(04-14-2021, 09:13 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:(04-14-2021, 08:47 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:I like seeing what you guys really think.(04-14-2021, 07:56 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Better get to studying Crypto, TRT.
What are you doing reading or posting on this thread? Just saw you condemn VDH as a moron operating on ideas proven defunct 30 years ago.
I get it. You guys try to change everything from morality to ethics to the US Constitution over the course of several years, and then act like you're dumbfounded to think that most of America still clings to reality.
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