[jetpilot]

I have read the book 3 or 4 times over the years, and then a few years ago watched the movie for the first time. The only movie I can think of that is better than the book. I watched it again tonight on TCM. Have now seen it at least a dozen times over the last decade.

BY FAR my favorite movie of all time. Beautiful in every way. Atticus Finch, Scout, Gem, Dill, Boo, Calpernia and everyone else are so awesome. Gregory Peck is better in this movie than any actor in any movie ever.


So.....idiot liberals call me a racist and accuse me of white privilege because I don't agree with their socialist/communist worldview.
They are so full of sh!t, liars, evil, brainwashed, stupid and everything else bad I can think of. 


So GFY idiots who call me racist or privileged, you are evil.

[Hoot Gibson]

I have read the book 3 or 4 times over the years, and then a few years ago watched the movie for the first time. The only movie I can think of that is better than the book. I watched it again tonight on TCM. Have now seen it at least a dozen times over the last decade.

BY FAR my favorite movie of all time. Beautiful in every way. Atticus Finch, Scout, Gem, Dill, Boo, Calpernia and everyone else are so awesome. Gregory Peck is better in this movie than any actor in any movie ever.


So.....idiot liberals call me a racist and accuse me of white privilege because I don't agree with their socialist/communist worldview.
They are so full of sh!t, liars, evil, brainwashed, stupid and everything else bad I can think of. 


So GFY idiots who call me racist or privileged, you are evil.

Thanks, JP. I know that I have probably seen the movie before but I will either download the Audible version of the book or watch the movie based on your recommendation. I am surprised that the movie is still available in our cancel culture society.

[jetpilot]

^^^I highly recommend reading the book and seeing it in your own mind without it being read to you. You will love it and it demolishes the made up racist tag ultralibs are projecting on us that fools only the brainwashed idiots they depend on for votes....

[jetpilot]

Read the book first, amazing...

[Cardfan1]

@jetpilot enjoying a book/movie doesn't make you racist if you live your life supporting the same systems that obstruct the movement of the minorities in this country.

I would also challenge that Lee does what this nation loves to do: Pit poor whites against minorities. These two groups have the most in common and always have but have been manipulated by the higher socio-economic classes.

Then you have a white elite savior who is able to stoop down and deem who is right or wrong.

If you want the rug pulled out from under you read Lee's first/second novel Go Set a Watchman. She actually wanted to release GSAW first but the editor said to pull out the kid parts and write a book about that.

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Dang.  
I was hoping to have a good conversation about a great American novel and its political and social statements that resonate today.

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Dang.  
I was hoping to have a good conversation about a great American novel and its political and social statements that resonate today.

THEIR is no good conversation unless you are a psychiatrist

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I read the book in HS and watched the movie as an adult. I enjoyed both. Love Gregory Peck.   Peck and Bette Davis are two of my favorite old Hollywood stars.

I also read Lord of the Flies in HS and watched the movie years later. I also enjoyed those as well. That should  dispel any rumors beyond a shadow of a doubt that I am an advocate of tyrannical self-governance(on deserted islands).   


Here's an interesting take on how TKAM  still resonates today:

"Every movement has its waves that rise and mellow down with time. With discrimination against people of colour in America, the matter is the same. It started with the abolition of slavery, rose again in the 60s with the Civil Rights Movement, and seems to have taken a tsunami-like wave once again, with the wrongful killing by the white police of innocent black citizens. And what these murders are based on is essentially what the novel’s hero Atticus Finch calls “Maycomb’s Disease”, in other words, the negative and demeaning prejudice that society breeds against black people that cost them their lives.

The prejudice reigns and black people like George Floyd and Breonna Taylor are killed because of the suspicion of having committed a crime. The fictional Tom Robinson represents the myriad of black people convicted and prosecuted wrongfully in the 1930s, while George Floyd represents the plethora of black people shot down in the name of “self defense” simply because they are black.


Seems like not much has changed. And perhaps, it has worsened. "


https://www.wokemag.in/post/atticus-finc...orge-floyd

[TheRealThing]

I read the book in HS and watched the movie as an adult. I enjoyed both. Love Gregory Peck.   Peck and Bette Davis are two of my favorite old Hollywood stars.

I also read Lord of the Flies in HS and watched the movie years later. I also enjoyed those as well. That should  dispel any rumors beyond a shadow of a doubt that I am an advocate of  tyrannical self-governance(on deserted islands).   


Here's an interesting take on how TKAM  still resonates today:

"Every movement has its waves that rise and mellow down with time. With discrimination against people of colour in America, the matter is the same. It started with the abolition of slavery, rose again in the 60s with the Civil Rights Movement, and seems to have taken a tsunami-like wave once again, with the wrongful killing by the white police of innocent black citizens. And what these murders are based on is essentially what the novel’s hero Atticus Finch calls “Maycomb’s Disease”, in other words, the negative and demeaning prejudice that society breeds against black people that cost them their lives.

The prejudice reigns and black people like George Floyd and Breonna Taylor are killed because of the suspicion of having committed a crime. The fictional Tom Robinson represents the myriad of black people convicted and prosecuted wrongfully in the 1930s, while George Floyd represents the plethora of black people shot down in the name of “self defense” simply because they are black.


Seems like not much has changed. And perhaps, it has worsened. "


https://www.wokemag.in/post/atticus-finc...orge-floyd

 
How about this book?    "Color Communism and Common Sense" 
Your analysis is bogus. The United States is the only nation to have ever fought a civil war or any war for that matter, in pursuit of the abolishment of slavery. Back then it really was a Dem versus Republican thing BTW. But the American people who at the time, did not really question the moral implications of slavery were nonetheless forced to face slavery on those grounds. They made their decision to stop it on moral grounds, and President Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation. And those not in obeyance on the left in the US Congress, found themselves steamrolled by public opinion.

Deserted islands aside, I find it incredible that a guy like you who supposes himself a reasonable intellect would not admit to the historical record on this matter. That and the fact that you managed to miss the point history made, and frankly though messy, was still one of America's finest moments as it was in this land that a great injustice met it's match, again, on moral grounds. I happened to hear a song being sung the other night on TV, which I assume was about black people here in America still looking for freedom. That in the face of our loss of free speech, the cancel culture, and much more that reportedly those doing the song espouse. So I'll tell you one thing and I know what you'll do with it but, the truth still bears being said. If any man could not find freedom here in this land up until say, the closing days of 2020; then freedom is an unhadible commodity. Because that ship, along with the Nina, Pinta, Santa Maria, and the Mayflower, have already sailed. And the Constitutional Convention of 1776 has already gaveled out.

If the war fought, and the freedoms that once rang across this land did not right the wrongs of your mention, (albeit those wrongs being mischaracterized) then San Fran Nan et-al are certainly not going to pull it off no matter how much money they throw at it. And the waves you mention? Will continue to roll in because now that that genie is out, it's not about to let itself be put back in any bottle at all. No, from here on it's Katie bar the door.

The following was how people characterized 'the waves' of your fascination only a few decades ago.

https://clthb.co/uiMYYjNYfVNykefm8

[TheRealThing]

I like this guy.

https://app.clouthub.com/post/ca7588b1-6...18563e66e4

[jetpilot]

I like this guy.

https://app.clouthub.com/post/ca7588b1-6...18563e66e4

Easy to brainwash Biden voters. I have no idea why any Catholic church allows him in their building.

[TheRealThing]

I like this guy.

https://app.clouthub.com/post/ca7588b1-6...18563e66e4

Easy to brainwash Biden voters. I have no idea why any Catholic church allows him in their building.

$$$$$,  POWER,  Fear of Regulation, Ominous flirtation with government/in bed with the Devil, time of the end.

[Cardfan1]

Damn...when the real theme of the novel smacks you fellas in the face the dip dodge dive occurs.

You went to Biden and Catholicism ?

Hellfire!! I didn’t realize the injustice had to spelled out by @Old School Hound for your hair to set on fire. TRt, JP, Hooter you missed what every freshman English student gets immediately.

I thought you boys were supposed to be smart.

[vector#1]

Damn...when the real theme of the novel smacks you fellas in the face the dip dodge dive occurs. 

You went to Biden and Catholicism ?

Hellfire!! I didn’t realize the injustice had to spelled out by @Old School Hound  for your hair to set on fire.  TRt, JP, Hooter you missed what every freshman English student gets immediately. 

I thought you boys were supposed to be smart.

If you SAY anything Bad about the Dear Leader they will swarm you like flies on Sh!t

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Damn...when the real theme of the novel smacks you fellas in the face the dip dodge dive occurs. 

You went to Biden and Catholicism ?

Hellfire!! I didn’t realize the injustice had to spelled out by @Old School Hound  for your hair to set on fire.  TRt, JP, Hooter you missed what every freshman English student gets immediately. 

I thought you boys were supposed to be smart.

I thought you moderate thinkers were all hanging out over on the cerebral liberals only thread? LOL

No. I did not go to Biden Catholicism. The discussion went from a review of To Kill a Mockingbird by Jet. To your trying unsuccessfully to steer yet this conversation too, into the liberal revisionist ditch. Then Hound took up the torch and actually made a post using the American journey to ensure civil justice, which should for the most part be a matter of settled moral reckoning, to justify perpetual waves of successive generations re-litigating the manner in which slavery and bias were dispatched. Thus legitimizing the riots, mayhem and arson, along with the destruction and or civil seizure of public property, which they have militantly dubbed autonomous zones.

I offered up a book written by a black man and communist named Manning Johnson which refutes CF and Hound's hypocrisy, and who actually lived the period in question. And who actually is the expert by experience that you goofy wannabes try to act all informed about. You I submit, don't know up from down about it. Manning Johnson does, and if I wanted to forget my own life experiences and adopt anybody's perspective on the social matter that seems to be threatening us once again, it would be his. And I know for a fact that Manning's hammered out and strongly held convictions run diametrically in opposition to you guys.

I can and do accept real history, and I embrace it. You revise it as you're trying to do here yet again. Manning saw the truth of it. Maybe you should try reading his book and get a real dose of reality, and perhaps even some humility to that end, yourself. Black people who break the law should be held accountable for doing so. But by the narrative of the left, blacks and the #MeToo minorities who want on board, are held guiltless on the grounds of ridiculousness such as Critical Race Theory.

To Kill a Mockingbird in my view, exposed the shallowness of thinking of the 1930's. America is way past the naïveté of those days. She has righted a great wrong not only for America herself, but has led the world to that same enlightenment. You ought to actually digest the contents of the video I posted on the matter of black injustice as seen from the eyes of one who suffered the actual indignation of the day. But no, you who actually does the dodging and denying, choose to reject reality out of hand in favor of stirring the pot. Which I predict will turn and bite you much sooner than you think.

You guys have chosen Biden supposedly, whose public record runs 180 degrees the opposite direction, to champion the plague of civil unrest for a cause which has already been won. I posted the video of the priest who disagrees with your choice. As I said, I like the guy. He has drawn an line in the sand against the cancel culture and is quite prepared to see it through.

[jetpilot]

^^^Haha great post TRT, in several ways.
"Goofy wannabes" to put it mildly lol...

[Cardfan1]

Damn...when the real theme of the novel smacks you fellas in the face the dip dodge dive occurs. 

You went to Biden and Catholicism ?

Hellfire!! I didn’t realize the injustice had to spelled out by @Old School Hound  for your hair to set on fire.  TRt, JP, Hooter you missed what every freshman English student gets immediately. 

I thought you boys were supposed to be smart.

I thought you moderate thinkers were all hanging out over on the cerebral liberals only thread? LOL

No. I did not go to Biden Catholicism. The discussion went from a review of To Kill a Mockingbird by Jet. To your trying unsuccessfully to steer yet this conversation too, into the liberal revisionist ditch. Then Hound took up the torch and actually made a post using the American journey to ensure civil justice, which should for the most part be a matter of settled moral reckoning, to justify perpetual waves of successive generations re-litigating the manner in which slavery and bias were dispatched. Thus legitimizing the riots, mayhem and arson, along with the destruction and or civil seizure of public property, which they have militantly dubbed autonomous zones.

I offered up a book written by a black man and communist named Manning Johnson which refutes CF and Hound's hypocrisy, and who actually lived the period in question. And who actually is the expert by experience that you goofy wannabes try to act all informed about. You I submit, don't know up from down about it. Manning Johnson does, and if I wanted to forget my own life experiences and adopt anybody's perspective on the social matter that seems to be threatening us once again, it would be his. And I know for a fact that Manning's hammered out and strongly held convictions run diametrically in opposition to you guys.

I can and do accept real history, and I embrace it. You revise it as you're trying to do here yet again. Manning saw the truth of it. Maybe you should try reading his book and get a real dose of reality, and perhaps even some humility to that end, yourself. Black people who break the law should be held accountable for doing so. But by the narrative of the left, blacks and the #MeToo minorities who want on board, are held guiltless on the grounds of ridiculousness such as Critical Race Theory.

To Kill a Mockingbird in my view, exposed the shallowness of thinking of the 1930's. America is way past the naïveté of those days. She has righted a great wrong not only for America herself, but has led the world to that same enlightenment. You ought to actually digest the contents of the video I posted on the matter of black injustice as seen from the eyes of one who suffered the actual indignation of the day. But no, you who actually does the dodging and denying, choose to reject reality out of hand in favor of stirring the pot. Which I predict will turn and bite you much sooner than you think.

You guys have chosen Biden supposedly, whose public record runs 180 degrees the opposite direction, to champion the plague of civil unrest for a cause which has already been won. I posted the video of the priest who disagrees with your choice. As I said, I like the guy. He has drawn an line in the sand against the cancel culture and is quite prepared to see it through.

This thread doesn't say Conservative Literature talk.   I would have stayed away.  

You have found one dude who says what you believe about being Black in America is like;  One guy when millions are telling you the opposite.  Makes perfect sense.  I have not one damn clue what is like to be black in America, but I do know what it's like to be poor and white.  I recognize some of the same systematic social constructs.  Luckily for me, I can make a few dollars and leave the poor white trash class I grew up in.  

(you lost the civil unrest argument when you support a party that rioted at the United States Capitol to usurp democracy)

Back to the book.  We are not in the 30's, you are correct about that, but that didn't go away immediately.  The last lynching was in 1981.  Let that sink in.  It's not much of a stretch to connect what has been happening over the last few decades to the same mentality.    Tom Robinson received a trial, and TKAMB exposed the failure of the justice system when "he had to put his word against two white people", and he was found automatically guilty.   White America has now put the onus on our police officers to carry out these injustices by not appropriately funding them and feeding a toxic culture.  People who break the law should be held accountable in a court of law not in the street.  

[TheRealThing]

Damn...when the real theme of the novel smacks you fellas in the face the dip dodge dive occurs. 

You went to Biden and Catholicism ?

Hellfire!! I didn’t realize the injustice had to spelled out by @Old School Hound  for your hair to set on fire.  TRt, JP, Hooter you missed what every freshman English student gets immediately. 

I thought you boys were supposed to be smart.

I thought you moderate thinkers were all hanging out over on the cerebral liberals only thread? LOL

No. I did not go to Biden Catholicism. The discussion went from a review of To Kill a Mockingbird by Jet. To your trying unsuccessfully to steer yet this conversation too, into the liberal revisionist ditch. Then Hound took up the torch and actually made a post using the American journey to ensure civil justice, which should for the most part be a matter of settled moral reckoning, to justify perpetual waves of successive generations re-litigating the manner in which slavery and bias were dispatched. Thus legitimizing the riots, mayhem and arson, along with the destruction and or civil seizure of public property, which they have militantly dubbed autonomous zones.

I offered up a book written by a black man and communist named Manning Johnson which refutes CF and Hound's hypocrisy, and who actually lived the period in question. And who actually is the expert by experience that you goofy wannabes try to act all informed about. You I submit, don't know up from down about it. Manning Johnson does, and if I wanted to forget my own life experiences and adopt anybody's perspective on the social matter that seems to be threatening us once again, it would be his. And I know for a fact that Manning's hammered out and strongly held convictions run diametrically in opposition to you guys.

I can and do accept real history, and I embrace it. You revise it as you're trying to do here yet again. Manning saw the truth of it. Maybe you should try reading his book and get a real dose of reality, and perhaps even some humility to that end, yourself. Black people who break the law should be held accountable for doing so. But by the narrative of the left, blacks and the #MeToo minorities who want on board, are held guiltless on the grounds of ridiculousness such as Critical Race Theory.

To Kill a Mockingbird in my view, exposed the shallowness of thinking of the 1930's. America is way past the naïveté of those days. She has righted a great wrong not only for America herself, but has led the world to that same enlightenment. You ought to actually digest the contents of the video I posted on the matter of black injustice as seen from the eyes of one who suffered the actual indignation of the day. But no, you who actually does the dodging and denying, choose to reject reality out of hand in favor of stirring the pot. Which I predict will turn and bite you much sooner than you think.

You guys have chosen Biden supposedly, whose public record runs 180 degrees the opposite direction, to champion the plague of civil unrest for a cause which has already been won. I posted the video of the priest who disagrees with your choice. As I said, I like the guy. He has drawn an line in the sand against the cancel culture and is quite prepared to see it through.

This thread doesn't say Conservative Literature talk.   I would have stayed away.  

You have found one dude who says what you believe about being Black in America is like;  One guy when millions are telling you the opposite.  Makes perfect sense.  I have not one damn clue what is like to be black in America, but I do know what it's like to be poor and white.  I recognize some of the same systematic social constructs.  Luckily for me, I can make a few dollars and leave the poor white trash class I grew up in.  

(you lost the civil unrest argument when you support a party that rioted at the United States Capitol to usurp democracy)

Back to the book.  We are not in the 30's, you are correct about that, but that didn't go away immediately.  The last lynching was in 1981.  Let that sink in.  It's not much of a stretch to connect what has been happening over the last few decades to the same mentality.    Tom Robinson received a trial, and TKAMB exposed the failure of the justice system when "he had to put his word against two white people", and he was found automatically guilty.   White America has now put the onus on our police officers to carry out these injustices by not appropriately funding them and feeding a toxic culture.  People who break the law should be held accountable in a court of law not in the street.  

What a rambling load a baloney. You side step any dose of reality in favor of the liberal narrative EVERY time you are confronted with the truth.

I can find any number of men who agree with me on history. Not the least of whom would be DR Martin Luther King who espoused the 'content of character' approach in opposition to your color of skin approach. Or Burgess Owens who is a staunch conservative because his eyes are open. Or Leo Terrell who became a conservative because he too allowed his eyes to be opened after he saw a great president get steamrolled by the left for his unprecedented contributions to the black community. And all because he wasn't a liberal Democrat and desired to make America great again.

And you have no pennant where it comes to being poor either. Necessity drove me to start working at a real job, when I was 15 and I saw inside of 2 paydays how .65 cents an hour could teach me the rewards of taking the responsibility for one's own financial sted. Like I said, you don't know up from down about it but you certainly do know the lying DNC talking points. There is nothing systemically racist about the US Ship of State. But if there were you can bet that ship would be captained by a Dem, from a long line of Dems. Factual history.

The truth of Jan 6 is far from the lie you just posted.

'The stretch,' is your side's denials in culpability of leadership in the resuscitating of the rotting corpse of racism, and then trying to connect that to the Republicans who actually led the fight to free the black man in the first place, to what has been happening the past few decades. People who break the law out in the street, assaulting everybody from Rand Paul and his wife, to Dan Bongino and his wife, to innocent people trying to have dinner, and completely innocent old folks walking down the side walk being sucker punched nearly to death, and the trillions of dollars of losses to the public/people's domain, and organized paramilitary opposition to include physical assault to Republican political rally goers, to you name it; ought to be held accountable by the court. And BTW, don't try and slime me with your faked concerns for police when you've been all about defunding the police and taking away their powers to deal with all the insurrection.

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Damn...when the real theme of the novel smacks you fellas in the face the dip dodge dive occurs. 

You went to Biden and Catholicism ?

Hellfire!! I didn’t realize the injustice had to spelled out by @Old School Hound  for your hair to set on fire.  TRt, JP, Hooter you missed what every freshman English student gets immediately. 

I thought you boys were supposed to be smart.

I thought you moderate thinkers were all hanging out over on the cerebral liberals only thread? LOL

No. I did not go to Biden Catholicism. The discussion went from a review of To Kill a Mockingbird by Jet. To your trying unsuccessfully to steer yet this conversation too, into the liberal revisionist ditch. Then Hound took up the torch and actually made a post using the American journey to ensure civil justice, which should for the most part be a matter of settled moral reckoning, to justify perpetual waves of successive generations re-litigating the manner in which slavery and bias were dispatched. Thus legitimizing the riots, mayhem and arson, along with the destruction and or civil seizure of public property, which they have militantly dubbed autonomous zones.

I offered up a book written by a black man and communist named Manning Johnson which refutes CF and Hound's hypocrisy, and who actually lived the period in question. And who actually is the expert by experience that you goofy wannabes try to act all informed about. You I submit, don't know up from down about it. Manning Johnson does, and if I wanted to forget my own life experiences and adopt anybody's perspective on the social matter that seems to be threatening us once again, it would be his. And I know for a fact that Manning's hammered out and strongly held convictions run diametrically in opposition to you guys.

I can and do accept real history, and I embrace it. You revise it as you're trying to do here yet again. Manning saw the truth of it. Maybe you should try reading his book and get a real dose of reality, and perhaps even some humility to that end, yourself. Black people who break the law should be held accountable for doing so. But by the narrative of the left, blacks and the #MeToo minorities who want on board, are held guiltless on the grounds of ridiculousness such as Critical Race Theory.

To Kill a Mockingbird in my view, exposed the shallowness of thinking of the 1930's. America is way past the naïveté of those days. She has righted a great wrong not only for America herself, but has led the world to that same enlightenment. You ought to actually digest the contents of the video I posted on the matter of black injustice as seen from the eyes of one who suffered the actual indignation of the day. But no, you who actually does the dodging and denying, choose to reject reality out of hand in favor of stirring the pot. Which I predict will turn and bite you much sooner than you think.

You guys have chosen Biden supposedly, whose public record runs 180 degrees the opposite direction, to champion the plague of civil unrest for a cause which has already been won. I posted the video of the priest who disagrees with your choice. As I said, I like the guy. He has drawn an line in the sand against the cancel culture and is quite prepared to see it through.

This thread doesn't say Conservative Literature talk.   I would have stayed away.  

You have found one dude who says what you believe about being Black in America is like;  One guy when millions are telling you the opposite.  Makes perfect sense.  I have not one damn clue what is like to be black in America, but I do know what it's like to be poor and white.  I recognize some of the same systematic social constructs.  Luckily for me, I can make a few dollars and leave the poor white trash class I grew up in.  

(you lost the civil unrest argument when you support a party that rioted at the United States Capitol to usurp democracy)

Back to the book.  We are not in the 30's, you are correct about that, but that didn't go away immediately.  The last lynching was in 1981.  Let that sink in.  It's not much of a stretch to connect what has been happening over the last few decades to the same mentality.    Tom Robinson received a trial, and TKAMB exposed the failure of the justice system when "he had to put his word against two white people", and he was found automatically guilty.   White America has now put the onus on our police officers to carry out these injustices by not appropriately funding them and feeding a toxic culture.  People who break the law should be held accountable in a court of law not in the street.  

What a rambling load a baloney. You side step any dose of reality in favor of the liberal narrative EVERY time you are confronted with the truth.

I can find any number of men who agree with me on history. Not the least of whom would be DR Martin Luther King who espoused the 'content of character' approach in opposition to your color of skin approach. Or Burgess Owens who is a staunch conservative because his eyes are open. Or Leo Terrell who became a conservative because he too allowed his eyes to be opened after he saw a great president get steamrolled by the left for his unprecedented contributions to the black community. And all because he wasn't a liberal Democrat and desired to make America great again.

And you have no pennant where it comes to being poor either. Necessity drove me to start working at a real job, when I was 15 and I saw inside of 2 paydays how .65 cents an hour could teach me the rewards of taking the responsibility for one's own financial sted. Like I said, you don't know up from down about it but you certainly do know the lying DNC talking points. There is nothing systemically racist about the US Ship of State. But if there were you can bet that ship would be captained by a Dem, from a long line of Dems. Factual history.

The truth of Jan 6 is far from the lie you just posted.

'The stretch,' is your side's denials in culpability of leadership in the resuscitating of the rotting corpse of racism, and then trying to connect that to the Republicans who actually led the fight to free the black man in the first place, to what has been happening the past few decades. People who break the law out in the street, assaulting everybody from Rand Paul and his wife, to Dan Bongino and his wife, to innocent people trying to have dinner, and completely innocent old folks walking down the side walk being sucker punched nearly to death, and the trillions of dollars of losses to the public/people's domain, and organized paramilitary opposition to include physical assault to Republican political rally goers, to you name it; ought to be held accountable by the court. And BTW, don't try and slime me with your faked concerns for police when you've been all about defunding the police and taking away their powers to deal with all the insurrection.

TRT I have told you before today's Party of Trump is not the same Party of Lincoln. It's worst than the part of Wallace

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Damn...when the real theme of the novel smacks you fellas in the face the dip dodge dive occurs. 

You went to Biden and Catholicism ?

Hellfire!! I didn’t realize the injustice had to spelled out by @Old School Hound  for your hair to set on fire.  TRt, JP, Hooter you missed what every freshman English student gets immediately. 

I thought you boys were supposed to be smart.

I thought you moderate thinkers were all hanging out over on the cerebral liberals only thread? LOL

No. I did not go to Biden Catholicism. The discussion went from a review of To Kill a Mockingbird by Jet. To your trying unsuccessfully to steer yet this conversation too, into the liberal revisionist ditch. Then Hound took up the torch and actually made a post using the American journey to ensure civil justice, which should for the most part be a matter of settled moral reckoning, to justify perpetual waves of successive generations re-litigating the manner in which slavery and bias were dispatched. Thus legitimizing the riots, mayhem and arson, along with the destruction and or civil seizure of public property, which they have militantly dubbed autonomous zones.

I offered up a book written by a black man and communist named Manning Johnson which refutes CF and Hound's hypocrisy, and who actually lived the period in question. And who actually is the expert by experience that you goofy wannabes try to act all informed about. You I submit, don't know up from down about it. Manning Johnson does, and if I wanted to forget my own life experiences and adopt anybody's perspective on the social matter that seems to be threatening us once again, it would be his. And I know for a fact that Manning's hammered out and strongly held convictions run diametrically in opposition to you guys.

I can and do accept real history, and I embrace it. You revise it as you're trying to do here yet again. Manning saw the truth of it. Maybe you should try reading his book and get a real dose of reality, and perhaps even some humility to that end, yourself. Black people who break the law should be held accountable for doing so. But by the narrative of the left, blacks and the #MeToo minorities who want on board, are held guiltless on the grounds of ridiculousness such as Critical Race Theory.

To Kill a Mockingbird in my view, exposed the shallowness of thinking of the 1930's. America is way past the naïveté of those days. She has righted a great wrong not only for America herself, but has led the world to that same enlightenment. You ought to actually digest the contents of the video I posted on the matter of black injustice as seen from the eyes of one who suffered the actual indignation of the day. But no, you who actually does the dodging and denying, choose to reject reality out of hand in favor of stirring the pot. Which I predict will turn and bite you much sooner than you think.

You guys have chosen Biden supposedly, whose public record runs 180 degrees the opposite direction, to champion the plague of civil unrest for a cause which has already been won. I posted the video of the priest who disagrees with your choice. As I said, I like the guy. He has drawn an line in the sand against the cancel culture and is quite prepared to see it through.

This thread doesn't say Conservative Literature talk.   I would have stayed away.  

You have found one dude who says what you believe about being Black in America is like;  One guy when millions are telling you the opposite.  Makes perfect sense.  I have not one damn clue what is like to be black in America, but I do know what it's like to be poor and white.  I recognize some of the same systematic social constructs.  Luckily for me, I can make a few dollars and leave the poor white trash class I grew up in.  

(you lost the civil unrest argument when you support a party that rioted at the United States Capitol to usurp democracy)

Back to the book.  We are not in the 30's, you are correct about that, but that didn't go away immediately.  The last lynching was in 1981.  Let that sink in.  It's not much of a stretch to connect what has been happening over the last few decades to the same mentality.    Tom Robinson received a trial, and TKAMB exposed the failure of the justice system when "he had to put his word against two white people", and he was found automatically guilty.   White America has now put the onus on our police officers to carry out these injustices by not appropriately funding them and feeding a toxic culture.  People who break the law should be held accountable in a court of law not in the street.  

What a rambling load a baloney. You side step any dose of reality in favor of the liberal narrative EVERY time you are confronted with the truth.

I can find any number of men who agree with me on history. Not the least of whom would be DR Martin Luther King who espoused the 'content of character' approach in opposition to your color of skin approach. Or Burgess Owens who is a staunch conservative because his eyes are open. Or Leo Terrell who became a conservative because he too allowed his eyes to be opened after he saw a great president get steamrolled by the left for his unprecedented contributions to the black community. And all because he wasn't a liberal Democrat and desired to make America great again.

And you have no pennant where it comes to being poor either. Necessity drove me to start working at a real job, when I was 15 and I saw inside of 2 paydays how .65 cents an hour could teach me the rewards of taking the responsibility for one's own financial sted. Like I said, you don't know up from down about it but you certainly do know the lying DNC talking points. There is nothing systemically racist about the US Ship of State. But if there were you can bet that ship would be captained by a Dem, from a long line of Dems. Factual history.

The truth of Jan 6 is far from the lie you just posted.

'The stretch,' is your side's denials in culpability of leadership in the resuscitating of the rotting corpse of racism, and then trying to connect that to the Republicans who actually led the fight to free the black man in the first place, to what has been happening the past few decades. People who break the law out in the street, assaulting everybody from Rand Paul and his wife, to Dan Bongino and his wife, to innocent people trying to have dinner, and completely innocent old folks walking down the side walk being sucker punched nearly to death, and the trillions of dollars of losses to the public/people's domain, and organized paramilitary opposition to include physical assault to Republican political rally goers, to you name it; ought to be held accountable by the court. And BTW, don't try and slime me with your faked concerns for police when you've been all about defunding the police and taking away their powers to deal with all the insurrection.

When you’re wrong you talk about everything on the planet, TRT.

It’s a nice tactic; get everybody to run down every  road and ignore why You defend the indefensible.  

At least you have the cahones to discuss.  

so you believe MLK would be on your side of this issue today? ? 
“It’s all good, except the Democrats riling you up to vote for them! “.  You think the leader of the civil rights movement would be right there with you.  

probably...you are somewhat delusional at times. 

half of this post your hair must be on fire...mad...people have yelled dirty words at my heroes !!!! 

are you equating that to being executed in the street without a fair trial? 

I have not once said defund the police.   I’ve actually said give them more money,  not for guns and tanks, for appropriate training and more personnel.  

I guess that’s as far as we’re going to get with this great American novel.  I read it I liked I am not a racist now. SMH.

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Damn...when the real theme of the novel smacks you fellas in the face the dip dodge dive occurs. 

You went to Biden and Catholicism ?

Hellfire!! I didn’t realize the injustice had to spelled out by @Old School Hound  for your hair to set on fire.  TRt, JP, Hooter you missed what every freshman English student gets immediately. 

I thought you boys were supposed to be smart.

I thought you moderate thinkers were all hanging out over on the cerebral liberals only thread? LOL

No. I did not go to Biden Catholicism. The discussion went from a review of To Kill a Mockingbird by Jet. To your trying unsuccessfully to steer yet this conversation too, into the liberal revisionist ditch. Then Hound took up the torch and actually made a post using the American journey to ensure civil justice, which should for the most part be a matter of settled moral reckoning, to justify perpetual waves of successive generations re-litigating the manner in which slavery and bias were dispatched. Thus legitimizing the riots, mayhem and arson, along with the destruction and or civil seizure of public property, which they have militantly dubbed autonomous zones.

I offered up a book written by a black man and communist named Manning Johnson which refutes CF and Hound's hypocrisy, and who actually lived the period in question. And who actually is the expert by experience that you goofy wannabes try to act all informed about. You I submit, don't know up from down about it. Manning Johnson does, and if I wanted to forget my own life experiences and adopt anybody's perspective on the social matter that seems to be threatening us once again, it would be his. And I know for a fact that Manning's hammered out and strongly held convictions run diametrically in opposition to you guys.

I can and do accept real history, and I embrace it. You revise it as you're trying to do here yet again. Manning saw the truth of it. Maybe you should try reading his book and get a real dose of reality, and perhaps even some humility to that end, yourself. Black people who break the law should be held accountable for doing so. But by the narrative of the left, blacks and the #MeToo minorities who want on board, are held guiltless on the grounds of ridiculousness such as Critical Race Theory.

To Kill a Mockingbird in my view, exposed the shallowness of thinking of the 1930's. America is way past the naïveté of those days. She has righted a great wrong not only for America herself, but has led the world to that same enlightenment. You ought to actually digest the contents of the video I posted on the matter of black injustice as seen from the eyes of one who suffered the actual indignation of the day. But no, you who actually does the dodging and denying, choose to reject reality out of hand in favor of stirring the pot. Which I predict will turn and bite you much sooner than you think.

You guys have chosen Biden supposedly, whose public record runs 180 degrees the opposite direction, to champion the plague of civil unrest for a cause which has already been won. I posted the video of the priest who disagrees with your choice. As I said, I like the guy. He has drawn an line in the sand against the cancel culture and is quite prepared to see it through.

This thread doesn't say Conservative Literature talk.   I would have stayed away.  

You have found one dude who says what you believe about being Black in America is like;  One guy when millions are telling you the opposite.  Makes perfect sense.  I have not one damn clue what is like to be black in America, but I do know what it's like to be poor and white.  I recognize some of the same systematic social constructs.  Luckily for me, I can make a few dollars and leave the poor white trash class I grew up in.  

(you lost the civil unrest argument when you support a party that rioted at the United States Capitol to usurp democracy)

Back to the book.  We are not in the 30's, you are correct about that, but that didn't go away immediately.  The last lynching was in 1981.  Let that sink in.  It's not much of a stretch to connect what has been happening over the last few decades to the same mentality.    Tom Robinson received a trial, and TKAMB exposed the failure of the justice system when "he had to put his word against two white people", and he was found automatically guilty.   White America has now put the onus on our police officers to carry out these injustices by not appropriately funding them and feeding a toxic culture.  People who break the law should be held accountable in a court of law not in the street.  

What a rambling load a baloney. You side step any dose of reality in favor of the liberal narrative EVERY time you are confronted with the truth.

I can find any number of men who agree with me on history. Not the least of whom would be DR Martin Luther King who espoused the 'content of character' approach in opposition to your color of skin approach. Or Burgess Owens who is a staunch conservative because his eyes are open. Or Leo Terrell who became a conservative because he too allowed his eyes to be opened after he saw a great president get steamrolled by the left for his unprecedented contributions to the black community. And all because he wasn't a liberal Democrat and desired to make America great again.

And you have no pennant where it comes to being poor either. Necessity drove me to start working at a real job, when I was 15 and I saw inside of 2 paydays how .65 cents an hour could teach me the rewards of taking the responsibility for one's own financial sted. Like I said, you don't know up from down about it but you certainly do know the lying DNC talking points. There is nothing systemically racist about the US Ship of State. But if there were you can bet that ship would be captained by a Dem, from a long line of Dems. Factual history.

The truth of Jan 6 is far from the lie you just posted.

'The stretch,' is your side's denials in culpability of leadership in the resuscitating of the rotting corpse of racism, and then trying to connect that to the Republicans who actually led the fight to free the black man in the first place, to what has been happening the past few decades. People who break the law out in the street, assaulting everybody from Rand Paul and his wife, to Dan Bongino and his wife, to innocent people trying to have dinner, and completely innocent old folks walking down the side walk being sucker punched nearly to death, and the trillions of dollars of losses to the public/people's domain, and organized paramilitary opposition to include physical assault to Republican political rally goers, to you name it; ought to be held accountable by the court. And BTW, don't try and slime me with your faked concerns for police when you've been all about defunding the police and taking away their powers to deal with all the insurrection.

TRT I have told you before today's Party of Trump is not the same Party of Lincoln. It's worst than the part of Wallace

You've put up a lot of stupid stuff vector, what would make you think any of it could ever make a dent on me? I will say though, in your flies analogy I liked especially the material of which you chose to characterize yourselves.

[TheRealThing]

Damn...when the real theme of the novel smacks you fellas in the face the dip dodge dive occurs. 

You went to Biden and Catholicism ?

Hellfire!! I didn’t realize the injustice had to spelled out by @Old School Hound  for your hair to set on fire.  TRt, JP, Hooter you missed what every freshman English student gets immediately. 

I thought you boys were supposed to be smart.

I thought you moderate thinkers were all hanging out over on the cerebral liberals only thread? LOL

No. I did not go to Biden Catholicism. The discussion went from a review of To Kill a Mockingbird by Jet. To your trying unsuccessfully to steer yet this conversation too, into the liberal revisionist ditch. Then Hound took up the torch and actually made a post using the American journey to ensure civil justice, which should for the most part be a matter of settled moral reckoning, to justify perpetual waves of successive generations re-litigating the manner in which slavery and bias were dispatched. Thus legitimizing the riots, mayhem and arson, along with the destruction and or civil seizure of public property, which they have militantly dubbed autonomous zones.

I offered up a book written by a black man and communist named Manning Johnson which refutes CF and Hound's hypocrisy, and who actually lived the period in question. And who actually is the expert by experience that you goofy wannabes try to act all informed about. You I submit, don't know up from down about it. Manning Johnson does, and if I wanted to forget my own life experiences and adopt anybody's perspective on the social matter that seems to be threatening us once again, it would be his. And I know for a fact that Manning's hammered out and strongly held convictions run diametrically in opposition to you guys.

I can and do accept real history, and I embrace it. You revise it as you're trying to do here yet again. Manning saw the truth of it. Maybe you should try reading his book and get a real dose of reality, and perhaps even some humility to that end, yourself. Black people who break the law should be held accountable for doing so. But by the narrative of the left, blacks and the #MeToo minorities who want on board, are held guiltless on the grounds of ridiculousness such as Critical Race Theory.

To Kill a Mockingbird in my view, exposed the shallowness of thinking of the 1930's. America is way past the naïveté of those days. She has righted a great wrong not only for America herself, but has led the world to that same enlightenment. You ought to actually digest the contents of the video I posted on the matter of black injustice as seen from the eyes of one who suffered the actual indignation of the day. But no, you who actually does the dodging and denying, choose to reject reality out of hand in favor of stirring the pot. Which I predict will turn and bite you much sooner than you think.

You guys have chosen Biden supposedly, whose public record runs 180 degrees the opposite direction, to champion the plague of civil unrest for a cause which has already been won. I posted the video of the priest who disagrees with your choice. As I said, I like the guy. He has drawn an line in the sand against the cancel culture and is quite prepared to see it through.

This thread doesn't say Conservative Literature talk.   I would have stayed away.  

You have found one dude who says what you believe about being Black in America is like;  One guy when millions are telling you the opposite.  Makes perfect sense.  I have not one damn clue what is like to be black in America, but I do know what it's like to be poor and white.  I recognize some of the same systematic social constructs.  Luckily for me, I can make a few dollars and leave the poor white trash class I grew up in.  

(you lost the civil unrest argument when you support a party that rioted at the United States Capitol to usurp democracy)

Back to the book.  We are not in the 30's, you are correct about that, but that didn't go away immediately.  The last lynching was in 1981.  Let that sink in.  It's not much of a stretch to connect what has been happening over the last few decades to the same mentality.    Tom Robinson received a trial, and TKAMB exposed the failure of the justice system when "he had to put his word against two white people", and he was found automatically guilty.   White America has now put the onus on our police officers to carry out these injustices by not appropriately funding them and feeding a toxic culture.  People who break the law should be held accountable in a court of law not in the street.  

What a rambling load a baloney. You side step any dose of reality in favor of the liberal narrative EVERY time you are confronted with the truth.

I can find any number of men who agree with me on history. Not the least of whom would be DR Martin Luther King who espoused the 'content of character' approach in opposition to your color of skin approach. Or Burgess Owens who is a staunch conservative because his eyes are open. Or Leo Terrell who became a conservative because he too allowed his eyes to be opened after he saw a great president get steamrolled by the left for his unprecedented contributions to the black community. And all because he wasn't a liberal Democrat and desired to make America great again.

And you have no pennant where it comes to being poor either. Necessity drove me to start working at a real job, when I was 15 and I saw inside of 2 paydays how .65 cents an hour could teach me the rewards of taking the responsibility for one's own financial sted. Like I said, you don't know up from down about it but you certainly do know the lying DNC talking points. There is nothing systemically racist about the US Ship of State. But if there were you can bet that ship would be captained by a Dem, from a long line of Dems. Factual history.

The truth of Jan 6 is far from the lie you just posted.

'The stretch,' is your side's denials in culpability of leadership in the resuscitating of the rotting corpse of racism, and then trying to connect that to the Republicans who actually led the fight to free the black man in the first place, to what has been happening the past few decades. People who break the law out in the street, assaulting everybody from Rand Paul and his wife, to Dan Bongino and his wife, to innocent people trying to have dinner, and completely innocent old folks walking down the side walk being sucker punched nearly to death, and the trillions of dollars of losses to the public/people's domain, and organized paramilitary opposition to include physical assault to Republican political rally goers, to you name it; ought to be held accountable by the court. And BTW, don't try and slime me with your faked concerns for police when you've been all about defunding the police and taking away their powers to deal with all the insurrection.

When you’re wrong you talk about everything on the planet, TRT.

It’s a nice tactic; get everybody to run down every  road and ignore why You defend the indefensible.  

At least you have the cahones to discuss.  

so you believe MLK would be on your side of this issue today? ? 
“It’s all good, except the Democrats riling you up to vote for them! “.  You think the leader of the civil rights movement would be right there with you.  

probably...you are somewhat delusional at times. 

half of this post your hair must be on fire...mad...people have yelled dirty words at my heroes !!!! 

are you equating that to being executed in the street without a fair trial? 

I have not once said defund the police.   I’ve actually said give them more money,  not for guns and tanks, for appropriate training and more personnel.  

I guess that’s as far as we’re going to get with this great American novel.  I read it I liked I am not a racist now. SMH.

LOL. You wear the mantle of disgrace well and frankly, you've earned it. Each of the few points I made were concise and accurate, direct responses to the points of deceit you just got through making.