[Hoot Gibson]

As I said, violent crimes are up this year over 2020.

Violent Crime Up, Other Offenses Down in 2021
Homicide rates in major U.S. cities in the first half of 2021 remained above the levels of recent years, the think tank Council on Criminal Justice said in an update of earlier reports. Homicides jumped 16 percent compared with the first half of 2020, an increase of 259, and by 42 percent from the first half of 2019, up by 548. The rate of increase slowed from the first to the second quarter of 2021. The homicide rate still was much below that of the early 1990s, 15 deaths per 100,000 residents compared 28 murders per 100,000 in 1993.

The report was based on a survey of 29 major cities, ranging from Norfolk, Va.,population 245,000, to Los Angeles, popuation 3.97 million.
Our conclusions have not changed, said authors criminologist Richard Rosenfeld of the University of Missouri St. Louis an Ernesto Lopez: "As the pandemic subsides, long-lasting reductions in violence and crime will require pursuing evidence-based crime-control strategies and enacting long-needed reforms to policing."

Aggravated and gun assault rates were higher in the first half of 2021 than in 2020. Aggravated assault rates increased nine percent while gun assault rates went up five percent. Motor vehicle theft rates were 21 percent higher.

“The rate of increase slowed from the first to the second quarter of 2021. The homicide rate still was much below that of the early 1990s, 15 deaths per 100,000 residents compared 28 murders per 100,000 in 1993.”


Hoot, you are not proving your case that America is more violent under Biden.

What part of

Homicides jumped 16 percent compared with the first half of 2020

and 

Aggravated and gun assault rates were higher in the first half of 2021 than in 2020.

do you not understand? Also, the "rate of increase slowed" does not mean that the rate declined. It means that the homicide rate continued to increase in the second quarter but at a slower rate than it increased in the first quarter over fourth quarter 2020. 

And you want us to believe that you read and understood over 4,400 pages of Democrat spending bills. 

[Hoot Gibson]

Actual crime is what all Americans should be concerned about. Using hyperbole, metaphors, and similes is not a violent crime, nor is it an incitement of violent crimes.

Update: Pandemic, Social Unrest, and Crime in U.S. Cities

This report examines changes in crime rates in 29 American cities since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020, with a special emphasis on homicide and other violent crimes. This study updates and supplements previous reports released in July, September, and November of 2020, January 2021, and May 2021 with additional crime data through the first half (January-June) of 2021.
Methodology
The study was conducted by criminologist and Professor Emeritus Richard Rosenfeld and Ernesto Lopez, Council on Criminal Justice Research Specialist.
This study examines monthly crime rates for ten violent, property, and drug offenses in  29 U.S. cities. The crime data were obtained from online portals of city police departments that provided weekly updates for the period between January 2018 and June 2021. The largest city in the sample is Los Angeles, with nearly 4 million residents. The smallest is Norfolk, Virginia, with 245,000 residents. The data are subject to revision, and not all cities reported data for each crime or for each week. Offense classifications also varied somewhat across the cities.
Findings

• The number of homicides increased by 16% during the first half of 2021 – 259 more homicides – compared to the same period the year before, and by 42% – claiming an additional 548 additional lives – compared to the same time frame in 2019. The increase in homicide slowed between the first and second quarters of 2021.
  

• The aggravated assault rate was 9% higher in the first half of 2021 than during the same period in 2020, and the gun assault rate was 5% higher in the first half of 2021 than the year before. Motor vehicle theft rates were 21% higher in the first half of 2021 than the year before.
  

[Cardfan1]

As I said, violent crimes are up this year over 2020.

Violent Crime Up, Other Offenses Down in 2021
Homicide rates in major U.S. cities in the first half of 2021 remained above the levels of recent years, the think tank Council on Criminal Justice said in an update of earlier reports. Homicides jumped 16 percent compared with the first half of 2020, an increase of 259, and by 42 percent from the first half of 2019, up by 548. The rate of increase slowed from the first to the second quarter of 2021. The homicide rate still was much below that of the early 1990s, 15 deaths per 100,000 residents compared 28 murders per 100,000 in 1993.

The report was based on a survey of 29 major cities, ranging from Norfolk, Va.,population 245,000, to Los Angeles, popuation 3.97 million.
Our conclusions have not changed, said authors criminologist Richard Rosenfeld of the University of Missouri St. Louis an Ernesto Lopez: "As the pandemic subsides, long-lasting reductions in violence and crime will require pursuing evidence-based crime-control strategies and enacting long-needed reforms to policing."

Aggravated and gun assault rates were higher in the first half of 2021 than in 2020. Aggravated assault rates increased nine percent while gun assault rates went up five percent. Motor vehicle theft rates were 21 percent higher.

“The rate of increase slowed from the first to the second quarter of 2021. The homicide rate still was much below that of the early 1990s, 15 deaths per 100,000 residents compared 28 murders per 100,000 in 1993.”


Hoot, you are not proving your case that America is more violent under Biden.

What part of

Homicides jumped 16 percent compared with the first half of 2020

and 

Aggravated and gun assault rates were higher in the first half of 2021 than in 2020.

do you not understand? Also, the "rate of increase slowed" does not mean that the rate declined. It means that the homicide rate continued to increase in the second quarter but at a slower rate than it increased in the first quarter over fourth quarter 2020. 

And you want us to believe that you read and understood over 4,400 pages of Democrat spending bills. 

I understand completely. You can’t prove what you were trying to say; under Biden we have more violent crime. It’s not true. At the end of the year you may be able to revisit and prove what you are trying to say. 

more proof you just spout stuff that have nothing to do with a thread little support.  Then you try to insult posters who question your sources and points. 

the whole argument is a fallacy. People can question the septic sucking truck named Steve Bannon and also be concerned about crime.

[Hoot Gibson]

As I said, violent crimes are up this year over 2020.

Violent Crime Up, Other Offenses Down in 2021
Homicide rates in major U.S. cities in the first half of 2021 remained above the levels of recent years, the think tank Council on Criminal Justice said in an update of earlier reports. Homicides jumped 16 percent compared with the first half of 2020, an increase of 259, and by 42 percent from the first half of 2019, up by 548. The rate of increase slowed from the first to the second quarter of 2021. The homicide rate still was much below that of the early 1990s, 15 deaths per 100,000 residents compared 28 murders per 100,000 in 1993.

The report was based on a survey of 29 major cities, ranging from Norfolk, Va.,population 245,000, to Los Angeles, popuation 3.97 million.
Our conclusions have not changed, said authors criminologist Richard Rosenfeld of the University of Missouri St. Louis an Ernesto Lopez: "As the pandemic subsides, long-lasting reductions in violence and crime will require pursuing evidence-based crime-control strategies and enacting long-needed reforms to policing."

Aggravated and gun assault rates were higher in the first half of 2021 than in 2020. Aggravated assault rates increased nine percent while gun assault rates went up five percent. Motor vehicle theft rates were 21 percent higher.

“The rate of increase slowed from the first to the second quarter of 2021. The homicide rate still was much below that of the early 1990s, 15 deaths per 100,000 residents compared 28 murders per 100,000 in 1993.”


Hoot, you are not proving your case that America is more violent under Biden.

What part of

Homicides jumped 16 percent compared with the first half of 2020

and 

Aggravated and gun assault rates were higher in the first half of 2021 than in 2020.

do you not understand? Also, the "rate of increase slowed" does not mean that the rate declined. It means that the homicide rate continued to increase in the second quarter but at a slower rate than it increased in the first quarter over fourth quarter 2020. 

And you want us to believe that you read and understood over 4,400 pages of Democrat spending bills. 

I understand completely. You can’t prove what you were trying to say; under Biden we have more violent crime. It’s not true. At the end of the year you may be able to revisit and prove what you are trying to say. 

more proof you just spout stuff that have nothing to do with a thread little support.  Then you try to insult posters who question your sources and points. 

the whole argument is a fallacy. People can question the septic sucking truck named Steve Bannon and also be concerned about crime.

You're are drowning here, Cardfan1. I said that violent crime has increased under this administration and the evidence proves that I am right. There is nothing wrong with my sources. You attempted to refute my claim with your own article but the problem is that you actually proved my point because you misinterpreted the data. When somebody is right, the worst thing that you do is attempt to correct them.

This is relevant to this thread. Steve Bannon is guilty of nothing but liberals are acting as if he committed a violent crime with his word choice and that he is advocating violence. He did no such thing. Liberals should be focused on actual violent crimes, which occur at higher rates in the cities that they govern. That has been true for decades. The police are not causing this problem and defunding police departments will only make the problem worse.

[TheRealThing]

Like I said, all you got are lies. Especially to the point of the immediate revising of my posts. I made my meaning regarding character assassination clear enough for all but the consummate liar.

I am not worried about being persecuted  by the likes of you. And my statement did not include the word persecution. That word was inserted by means of revision by you Cardfan. I state my positions clearly and you come back immediately to revise everything I say with the going mischaracterizations of the left, along with adding the buzz words and talking points meant to mock traditional conservative values. In short if you choose to believe and spread lies, and you obviously do, that's one thing; but you're not getting away with revising my posts.

Seen the story yet or not: you will wait for the leftist rewrite of the truth of it, and then you will support Moms being tagged as domestic terrorists. All the while because of your contempt,  you're all-in on the illegal entry of the real terrorists to the south.