[Creeker]

If you paid $175 each for $33 tickets then you have no right to complain. By paying so much for your tickets, you are helping set the price for scalped UK tickets, so please stop whining because you believe you should be able to buy cheaper tickets. Next time just say, "No, thanks," and then complain that you could not find affordable tickets. If nobody did business with scalpers, then there would be no scalpers.

If somebody buys a ticket then that ticket belongs to the buyer and he should be free to sell any of his property. If you were willing to buy scalped tickets for $175, then you paid the fair market price that you helped set.

Expecting our justice system to capture and punish scalpers for selling their property is ridiculous. If the Fayette County police department does not have higher priorities than rounding up ticket scalpers, then they have too many policemen on the payroll.

Yep, you are correct... should've never paid the higher price.

Selling their property isn't the crime here... selling them illegally at prices higher than face is. How are you missing that???

Asking Fayette Police to round them up isn't the issue either... I just know if I was a cop and the scalpers are standing there doing it and look at them and say things like, "I'm giving them these tickets, not selling them" and the second they turn their back they grab the money... that's a slap in the face to me.

[15thRegionSlamaBamma]

i am hoping to get some tickets at rupp saturday. you guys seemed well informed on how it works at that venue. any tips for fellow wildcat fan?

just hope that you have alot of money on you because if not you wont be able to afford one in the nose bleeds

[Hoot Gibson]

Yep, you are correct... should've never paid the higher price.

Selling their property isn't the crime here... selling them illegally at prices higher than face is. How are you missing that???

Asking Fayette Police to round them up isn't the issue either... I just know if I was a cop and the scalpers are standing there doing it and look at them and say things like, "I'm giving them these tickets, not selling them" and the second they turn their back they grab the money... that's a slap in the face to me.

I am not missing anything. I understand that the scalper broke the law but I just do not believe the law is reasonable or fair. It takes a buyer and a seller agreeing on an above-face value price to break the law, so you only have yourself to blame for the scalper breaking the law. Did you really expect to buy a ticket near Rupp to watch a 13-0 UK team play at face value???

Obviously you thought it was worth $175 x 2 to see UK take on one of the worst teams in the NCAA. Maybe you would have felt better if the scalper had offered the tickets to you for $200/each and then let you negotiate the $175 price that you paid. Have a Happy New Year and leave your bad case of buyer's remorse behind in 2009.

[Creeker]

I am not missing anything. I understand that the scalper broke the law but I just do not believe the law is reasonable or fair. It takes a buyer and a seller agreeing on an above-face value price to break the law, so you only have yourself to blame for the scalper breaking the law. Did you really expect to buy a ticket near Rupp to watch a 13-0 UK team play at face value???

Obviously you thought it was worth $175 x 2 to see UK take on one of the worst teams in the NCAA. Maybe you would have felt better if the scalper had offered the tickets to you for $200/each and then let you negotiate the $175 price that you paid. Have a Happy New Year and leave your bad case of buyer's remorse behind in 2009.

Nope... paid $175 for the pair... not $175 each, which was fine with me... :Thumbs:

[crazyfan4]

Yep... got $175 out of me and the wife for two $33 tickets to watch UK play HARTFORD! :lmao:

Never seen so much BS in my life.

I was at the Hartford game, the place was packed out, and I did sit in the lower seats. You might have seen a couple empty seats, but then five minutes later you would see the people come back and sit in them because they went to get something to drink, eat or restroom. If you don't like paying that money then by all means stay at the house and watch the game. And the scalpers are just trying to make money. Give them a break. Do you critize a car dealership when they won't come down off the sticker price? It is your choice to buy them, all you have to say is NO Thanks! Plus Kentucky is #3 in the nation, so it will be packed out all year.

[Panther Thunder]

The tickets belong to the scalpers! THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH THEM! If I own a bicycle, I can go around asking 2.5 mil for it. Doesn't mean I will sell it. If they don't sell the tickets that is their problem. But I sincerely doubt they haven't sold any because they know how to make money and if they weren't, they would lower prices. Supply and Demand baby.

[Stardust]

The tickets belong to the scalpers! THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH THEM! If I own a bicycle, I can go around asking 2.5 mil for it. Doesn't mean I will sell it. If they don't sell the tickets that is their problem. But I sincerely doubt they haven't sold any because they know how to make money and if they weren't, they would lower prices. Supply and Demand baby.

Amen :Thumbs:

[tbates]

hey creeker, what do you think the lowers will go for saturday?

[Creeker]

Using your alls logic I guess we should give the drug dealers a break too... same principle, right... Supply and Demand BABY!

:lmao:

[brain cramp]

:Thumbs:

Using your alls logic I guess we should give the drug dealers a break too... same principle, right... Supply and Demand BABY!

:lmao:

This is the most logical post on here. Many of you seem to forget about all of those people that went to college, work 5-6 days a week and still can not afford the inflated cost of taking their small children to a UK game in person. From scalpers right down to a 50 dollar visit to the concession for a couple of cokes and nachos. Price gouging and demand Baby! It IS a shame and we had better be able to enjoy what games are televised and hope our young children feel the atmosphere in the living room, because there are not many on here that can afford that lifestyle and if you can, just feel blessed and not rub in the rest of our faces like a bunch of spolied brats!

[nky]

If you paid $175 each for $33 tickets then you have no right to complain. By paying so much for your tickets, you are helping set the price for scalped UK tickets, so please stop whining because you believe you should be able to buy cheaper tickets. Next time just say, "No, thanks," and then complain that you could not find affordable tickets. If nobody did business with scalpers, then there would be no scalpers.
.

Have to agree with you on this. If buy from them you are supporting the price of the product. the price will continue to rise as the season moves forward

[Hoot Gibson]

Using your alls logic I guess we should give the drug dealers a break too... same principle, right... Supply and Demand BABY!

:lmao:

...and using your logic, the police should intervene in the free market to make illegal drugs more affordable to those who lack the willpower to just say no. I have never seen anybody make posts here whining about the high cost of cocaine or pot that they bought.

If you made the buy, then the price was not too high!

If you complained half this much to the scalper, then you may need to find another source of tickets! :popcorn:

[Hoot Gibson]

:Thumbs:
This is the most logical post on here. Many of you seem to forget about all of those people that went to college, work 5-6 days a week and still can not afford the inflated cost of taking their small children to a UK game in person. From scalpers right down to a 50 dollar visit to the concession for a couple of cokes and nachos. Price gouging and demand Baby! It IS a shame and we had better be able to enjoy what games are televised and hope our young children feel the atmosphere in the living room, because there are not many on here that can afford that lifestyle and if you can, just feel blessed and not rub in the rest of our faces like a bunch of spolied brats!

I have not attended a UK game in person for years because I refuse to pay inflated ticket prices, so please watch who you are calling a spoiled brat. I may watch UK this season when they play at Mississippi State or LSU but only if I can buy tickets at face value. Otherwise, I can watch other games that fit my entertainment budget.

There is no more fair way to distribute any product than through a free market. People who really, really want to attend a UK home game in person will find a way to pay the fair market price for tickets.

Perhaps you think that UK should give tickets out to people for free through a lottery. Would that be fair? Do you think that the government would fairly distribute tickets if taxpayers footed the bill?

Or maybe you think that the police should crackdown on scalping. Of course, the way that the black market works, a crackdown would result in higher ticket prices because a decrease in supply always drives prices higher - even in countries ruled by socialists. Economics 101.

[Creeker]

:Thumbs:
This is the most logical post on here. Many of you seem to forget about all of those people that went to college, work 5-6 days a week and still can not afford the inflated cost of taking their small children to a UK game in person. From scalpers right down to a 50 dollar visit to the concession for a couple of cokes and nachos. Price gouging and demand Baby! It IS a shame and we had better be able to enjoy what games are televised and hope our young children feel the atmosphere in the living room, because there are not many on here that can afford that lifestyle and if you can, just feel blessed and not rub in the rest of our faces like a bunch of spolied brats!

THANK YOU! Finally that has a clue on this site!!!! :worthy:

[Stardust]

:Thumbs:
This is the most logical post on here. Many of you seem to forget about all of those people that went to college, work 5-6 days a week and still can not afford the inflated cost of taking their small children to a UK game in person. From scalpers right down to a 50 dollar visit to the concession for a couple of cokes and nachos. Price gouging and demand Baby! It IS a shame and we had better be able to enjoy what games are televised and hope our young children feel the atmosphere in the living room, because there are not many on here that can afford that lifestyle and if you can, just feel blessed and not rub in the rest of our faces like a bunch of spolied brats!

If you haven't had to scalp tickets at that level of cost, then UK was not very good. Ticket Scalping has been going on since the Lions were eating the Barbarians at the Colleseum!

[brain cramp]

I have not attended a UK game in person for years because I refuse to pay inflated ticket prices, so please watch who you are calling a spoiled brat. I may watch UK this season when they play at Mississippi State or LSU but only if I can buy tickets at face value. Otherwise, I can watch other games that fit my entertainment budget.

There is no more fair way to distribute any product than through a free market. People who really, really want to attend a UK home game in person will find a way to pay the fair market price for tickets.

Perhaps you think that UK should give tickets out to people for free through a lottery. Would that be fair? Do you think that the government would fairly distribute tickets if taxpayers footed the bill?

Or maybe you think that the police should crackdown on scalping. Of course, the way that the black market works, a crackdown would result in higher ticket prices because a decrease in supply always drives prices higher - even in countries ruled by socialists. Economics 101.

I am impressed with the thought process, but you make my point for me. This is a black market that is driving the average fan out. If you are happy with the rich getting richer, (not UK, because they get face value only, as they do not get commision from scalpers) then good for you. Maybe you can find a way to pay the fair market price, again good for you. BTW, I also took Economics 101, cracking down on scalpers would not change the supply. There is a limited number of product anyway. The arena holds a set number of available product that is unwavering. With or without scalpers, UK can only offer 24,000+ product each game. The number of tickets produced will not change, that is supply. Now argue that scalpers can not sell, so number of fans in attendance dips. Now see how many times scalpers keep buying product without having a way to market it and count how long they stay in business...Economics 101.

I agree though that the govt would struggle with this type of situation, but they worked to improve a similar problem. Back in the day, food stamps were just that, paper vouchers equivalent to money, but could not be used to buy alcohol. What happened was people with these vochers sold their stamps for less than face value for real currency. The govt., in attempt to remedy this, issued a personal, registered pin number to accompany the new system. Not perfect but better, if you are on the side of food stamps being used to buy food. I just think tickets should be sold to fans (and make no mistake, scalpers are about the business, not the game), nothing more, nothing less. Now some posters just like to play devils advocate, and that is fun for me sometimes too. I simply like to think that right is right and wrong is wrong, but unfortunately we do not live in that type of society, Do we?

[brain cramp]

If you haven't had to scalp tickets at that level of cost, then UK was not very good. Ticket Scalping has been going on since the Lions were eating the Barbarians at the Colleseum!

Oh sorry, that makes it OK then.

[Hoot Gibson]

I am impressed with the thought process, but you make my point for me. This is a black market that is driving the average fan out. If you are happy with the rich getting richer, (not UK, because they get face value only, as they do not get commision from scalpers) then good for you. Maybe you can find a way to pay the fair market price, again good for you. BTW, I also took Economics 101, cracking down on scalpers would not change the supply. There is a limited number of product anyway. The arena holds a set number of available product that is unwavering. With or without scalpers, UK can only offer 24,000+ product each game. The number of tickets produced will not change, that is supply. Now argue that scalpers can not sell, so number of fans in attendance dips. Now see how many times scalpers keep buying product without having a way to market it and count how long they stay in business...Economics 101.

I agree though that the govt would struggle with this type of situation, but they worked to improve a similar problem. Back in the day, food stamps were just that, paper vouchers equivalent to money, but could not be used to buy alcohol. What happened was people with these vochers sold their stamps for less than face value for real currency. The govt., in attempt to remedy this, issued a personal, registered pin number to accompany the new system. Not perfect but better, if you are on the side of food stamps being used to buy food. I just think tickets should be sold to fans (and make no mistake, scalpers are about the business, not the game), nothing more, nothing less. Now some posters just like to play devils advocate, and that is fun for me sometimes too. I simply like to think that right is right and wrong is wrong, but unfortunately we do not live in that type of society, Do we?

I give you an "A" for effort but there is no enforcement action that will eliminate scalping or drive the price of scalped tickets down.

Cracking down on scalpers selling closest to Rupp would increase the potential costs of those scalpers making ticket purchases convenient because their risk of arrest would be greater. Some scalpers would exit the business entirely, which would decrease the supply of available tickets. Others would turn to Craigslist or other alternative distribution channels to sell their tickets.

The available pool of tickets is not 24,000 because most ticket holders are students, season ticket holders, etc. who really want to watch the game themselves. The number of people willing to resell their tickets and forgo attending the game themselves is what impacts the price of scalped tickets - and that number varies from game to game - and that number would also drop with stricter enforcement of laws against scalping.

As for right and wrong, many Americans still prefer that the government stay out of the economy unless intervention is absolutely necessary. We see nothing wrong with property owners being free to sell their property without harassment from the state. The buying and selling of UK basketball tickets is not one of those rare places where I want my government intervening.

[justabballfan]

There is always seats open in the lower arena. A lot of the richer people usually have season tickets, but rarely attend games, especially games against the likes of Hartford. Majority of the people in attendance are in the upper arena.

You're exactly right BCA my aunt has gotten me 4 lower arena tickets for the last few years as part of a Christmas present from the same person, sitting in the exact same seats every year. This year I had a choice of either the Austin P. game or Long Beach ST. and we went to the LBS game. He would rather give her the tickets to these games because of who they are playing instead of selling her the same tickets for a profit to better games because, she has tried to buy the same tickets for bigger games and no dice. There were very few empty seats, even for that game and it was on Christmas break, I noticed that alot of the seats were empty for like a half because alot people either came late or left early . As far as the scalpers, if UK keeps winning like they are ticket prices will be high for good seats, against good teams. The question is how bad are you wanting to see them play a quality team because if one person won't pay the price someone else will won't they, it might not seem far but like someone else said that's business

[Stardust]

Oh sorry, that makes it OK then.

Doesn't make it OK, makes it real!

[brain cramp]

I give you an "A" for effort but there is no enforcement action that will eliminate scalping or drive the price of scalped tickets down.

Cracking down on scalpers selling closest to Rupp would increase the potential costs of those scalpers making ticket purchases convenient because their risk of arrest would be greater. Some scalpers would exit the business entirely, which would decrease the supply of available tickets. Others would turn to Craigslist or other alternative distribution channels to sell their tickets.

The available pool of tickets is not 24,000 because most ticket holders are students, season ticket holders, etc. who really want to watch the game themselves. The number of people willing to resell their tickets and forgo attending the game themselves is what impacts the price of scalped tickets - and that number varies from game to game - and that number would also drop with stricter enforcement of laws against scalping.

As for right and wrong, many Americans still prefer that the government stay out of the economy unless intervention is absolutely necessary. We see nothing wrong with property owners being free to sell their property without harassment from the state. The buying and selling of UK basketball tickets is not one of those rare places where I want my government intervening.

:HitWall: lol

[Hoot Gibson]

:HitWall: lol

I am going to go out on a limb here and guess that you were not an economics or business major! :lmao:

[cuppett777]

i had a friend that got two tickets in section 16 for 800.00 for 2tickets that they got off ebay,on stub hub they was going for 1,600 a piece..