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12-02-2012, 03:58 PM
Thunder Lips Wrote:Statistics do not support your claim.
2012 (BG) - 46,738
2011 (BG) - 40,160
2010 (BG) - 47,759
2009 (BG) - 37,339
2008 (LOU) - 34,733
2007 (LOU) - 42,828
All of those people and still no atmosphere. No easy fix but when you have more empty seats than full ones, games seem unimportant to me.
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12-02-2012, 04:57 PM
I agree there seems to be plenty of interest here in the east especially local games but as far as involvement in the state games it is out of reach for most, at almost 300 miles doesn't seem much consideration was given to the folks in the east ,if any.
12-02-2012, 05:17 PM
It would appear to me that we need to hold the State Championships in a predetermined regional site for each class. I felt sorry to see all of those Belfry Fans having to drive 300 miles to Bowling Green, Ky. If the argument/discussion is how to increase attendance to state championship games, then it only makes sense to hold these games closer to each participating teams locale. If the 3A State Championship had been held at Morehead State, the enitre city of Belfry and the most of Pike, Johnson, and Floyd Counties would have been there. Why does our football state championships have to be played at the same location for all 12 teams involved? Why not spread it out across this sate? And I wouldnt be against clasifying all teams according to their geographic area. Simply divide the state into 6 areas and let them vie for a state championship. I understand this does take away from who can beat Trinity, but then again in our state who can? I personally would love to have seen a Harlan Co. vs. Belfry Match up, or a Bell Co. vs. Belfry Matchup...Being from southeast Ky. and a die-hard football fan, I hate to admit this, but I could care less about Mayfield, even though tradtionally, they are hard to beat.
12-02-2012, 05:48 PM
Big Bad,
Respect your ideas, but we live in a basketball state; HS basketball season opens the same week as the State Football finals. The KHSAA realizes the football season cannot be extended; too many conflicts. By this weekend with college basketball and HS basketball in full swing it seems as you said to get hidden on page six somewhere in the weekend papers.
Respect your ideas, but we live in a basketball state; HS basketball season opens the same week as the State Football finals. The KHSAA realizes the football season cannot be extended; too many conflicts. By this weekend with college basketball and HS basketball in full swing it seems as you said to get hidden on page six somewhere in the weekend papers.
12-02-2012, 08:29 PM
Lexington would be the best place, followed by EKU, then Lville, and then WKU IMO.
WKU is so isolated form the rest of the state it isnt funny.
I can only imagine how long of a bus ride Belfry had to take.
It need to be in central KY.
WKU is so isolated form the rest of the state it isnt funny.
I can only imagine how long of a bus ride Belfry had to take.
It need to be in central KY.
12-02-2012, 08:42 PM
RunItUpTheGut Wrote:Lexington would be the best place, followed by EKU, then Lville, and then WKU IMO.
WKU is so isolated form the rest of the state it isnt funny.
I can only imagine how long of a bus ride Belfry had to take.
It need to be in central KY.
If you want central KY, since Lebanon is about as central as it gets, why not Centre College in Danville.
Face it, WKU and EKU are about the best because of stadium size. Big enough but not too large. However EKU does not have enough on each side to keep the fans of each team together and Richmond does not have the motel space. So, WKU is the logical choice.
12-02-2012, 09:58 PM
Wise one Wrote:If you want central KY, since Lebanon is about as central as it gets, why not Centre College in Danville.
Face it, WKU and EKU are about the best because of stadium size. Big enough but not too large. However EKU does not have enough on each side to keep the fans of each team together and Richmond does not have the motel space. So, WKU is the logical choice.
Lexington, KY is only 25 miles away with plenty of rooms. Advantage EKU! Stadium size to suit you, loads of rooms reasonably close and near the center of our state.
12-02-2012, 10:01 PM
Wise one Wrote:If you want central KY, since Lebanon is about as central as it gets, why not Centre College in Danville.
Face it, WKU and EKU are about the best because of stadium size. Big enough but not too large. However EKU does not have enough on each side to keep the fans of each team together and Richmond does not have the motel space. So, WKU is the logical choice.
I think WKU would be a great choice if it was not so far from the center of the state. But it is and the only reason I see for having the games there is no one else bid.
12-02-2012, 10:25 PM
Always like L'ville better. Not a fan of Bowling Green at all.
12-02-2012, 10:40 PM
RunItUpTheGut Wrote:Lexington would be the best place, followed by EKU, then Lville, and then WKU IMO.
WKU is so isolated form the rest of the state it isnt funny.
I can only imagine how long of a bus ride Belfry had to take.
It need to be in central KY.
Agreed...it would be a great opportunity for UK to showcase the university with an open house weekend in association with the championships.
Average attendance was about 7,000 at Western. Roy Kidd seats 20,000 at EKU....more than enough. I'd venture to say attendance would increase by 1-2K with a more centralized location. Lexington would handle hotel/motel overflow in Richmond. A great oppty to promote the Colonels campus.
Plus I'd enjoy another oppty 20 years later to once again enjoy the likes of Tazwells, TBombs, Sutters, and shaking my arse at the Dog. Those of you in your 40's can relate. Forgive me Lord....had a flashback:BigLaugh:.
A centralized location is always more inclusive and well generate more attendance.
UK and EKU get my vote
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12-03-2012, 01:36 AM
Wise one Wrote:If you want central KY, since Lebanon is about as central as it gets, why not Centre College in Danville.
Face it, WKU and EKU are about the best because of stadium size. Big enough but not too large. However EKU does not have enough on each side to keep the fans of each team together and Richmond does not have the motel space. So, WKU is the logical choice.
Centre college hold 6,000 people.
Seeing as to how you just wanted to be a troll about it, your statements are all invalid.
EKU is a much better choice.
Why do we HAVE to have a stadium that seats fans on both sides? There ar eplenty of high schools stadiums that doesnt. If its tha big of a deal, you could just rotate sidelines after halftime.
Motels have nothing to do with it. Lexington isnt 20 minutes up the road, and richmond has quite a few motels to begin with. Dont forget Berea is right down the road as well so that myth is defunked.
WKU is not the logical choice. In all honesty, its about the worst choice.
I live right on the I-75 corridor and yet im still almost 3 hours away. Almost half of the state has to travel further than i do.
12-03-2012, 01:45 AM
Tica Wrote:The same teams advance in the playoffs every year because those are the schools that choose to pay attention to their football programs from grande school up. Success is not a secret. It just depends on how hard and how long you are willing to work at it. I dare say, with a few exceptions, the schools with great football teams also have very good academics and good extracurricular programs. Its all in the execution.
Absolutely right.:Clap:
12-03-2012, 01:47 AM
Wise one Wrote:If you want central KY, since Lebanon is about as central as it gets, why not Centre College in Danville.
Face it, WKU and EKU are about the best because of stadium size. Big enough but not too large. However EKU does not have enough on each side to keep the fans of each team together and Richmond does not have the motel space. So, WKU is the logical choice.
Not a snowballs chance at Centre. The stadium is not big enough. No parking and no hotels.
They need to stick with Presidential Debats.
12-03-2012, 01:49 AM
EKU would be nice, but at this point they don't have the hotel space.
If they can put together a good enough package, they will get it. Right now Western has the best thing going.
If they can put together a good enough package, they will get it. Right now Western has the best thing going.
12-03-2012, 08:07 AM
Wise one Wrote:If you want central KY, since Lebanon is about as central as it gets, why not Centre College in Danville..
Actually, Lebanon is not the geographic center of Kentucky. That is located on the campus of Centre College, hence the name Centre as in center. There is a US Geologic Survey marker that I walked by every year for four years.
As Tradition indicated, there is no way Centre's campus could host this. The stadium and parking is not enough.
12-03-2012, 08:23 AM
Teams in EKY are a little behind the NKY teams because they have more intrest in football, most EKY teams have intrest in Basketball. And the AAU and Basketball is killing football and baseball in EKY. Mark Dixon will tell you Basketball year round is hurting football at a lot of schools.
12-03-2012, 08:37 AM
As to the bowl idea that was thrown out there.
In the stone age (1970's) the old Central Kentucky Conference (CKC) held a CKC Bowl for two top teams in the conference that did not make the playoffs. There were 2 exciting games to start it off if memory serves (1975 Harrodsburg vs. Danville and 1976 Boyle County vs. Henry Clay) but by the '79 season the top teams that didn't make the playoffs did not want to play in the thing. Their goal was the playoffs and the coaches and teams could care less about a consolation prize game. So it died after that '79 season.
I think the same would be the case now. The top programs care about winning a state title. To play in something less would just be going through the motions.
In the stone age (1970's) the old Central Kentucky Conference (CKC) held a CKC Bowl for two top teams in the conference that did not make the playoffs. There were 2 exciting games to start it off if memory serves (1975 Harrodsburg vs. Danville and 1976 Boyle County vs. Henry Clay) but by the '79 season the top teams that didn't make the playoffs did not want to play in the thing. Their goal was the playoffs and the coaches and teams could care less about a consolation prize game. So it died after that '79 season.
I think the same would be the case now. The top programs care about winning a state title. To play in something less would just be going through the motions.
12-04-2012, 11:36 PM
With Trinity, Central, and Highlands winning almost every year, it has to have some effect on the kids playing for other squads and their level of interest.
12-05-2012, 03:34 AM
^
You know it effects other teams in those schools districts.
You know it effects other teams in those schools districts.
12-05-2012, 12:35 PM
whackem'n'stackem Wrote:With Trinity, Central, and Highlands winning almost every year, it has to have some effect on the kids playing for other squads and their level of interest.
In those teams district maybe. But interest isn't down at Ashland cause highlands keeps winning. I would say kids still come out of belfry even though central is on a nice run.
12-05-2012, 03:17 PM
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12-06-2012, 02:58 AM
Frozenbird Wrote:Actually, Lebanon is not the geographic center of Kentucky. That is located on the campus of Centre College, hence the name Centre as in center. There is a US Geologic Survey marker that I walked by every year for four years.
As Tradition indicated, there is no way Centre's campus could host this. The stadium and parking is not enough.
mysonis55 Wrote:Wa Wa Wa, Oh I'm sorry I stumbled into the crying site.
[Image: http://www.uky.edu/KentuckyAtlas/ky-geog...center.gif]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_County,_Kentucky
"According to the 2000 census, the county has a total area of 346.86 square miles (898.4 km2), of which 346.39 square miles (897.1 km2) (or 99.86%) is land and 0.47 square miles (1.2 km2) (or 0.14%) is water.[2] Marion County includes the geographic center of the state of Kentucky. The center is 3 miles NNW of Lebanon, just off KY 429. Marion county is Kentucky's most Catholic county. The first Catholic settlers in Kentucky came to Holy Cross in the western part of the county."
http://www.uky.edu/KentuckyAtlas/ky-geog...enter.html
"The geographic center of Kentucky, according to the Kentucky Transportation Cabinet's road maps, is in Marion county about three miles northwest of Lebanon on KY 429. Campbellsville in Taylor county also claims to be the geographic center of the state and there is a marker on the campus of Campbellsville University."
http://wikimapia.org/14334033/Geographic...f-Kentucky
"The geographic center of Kentucky, according to the Kentucky Transportation Cabinet's road maps, is in Marion county about three miles northwest of Lebanon on KY 429"
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-3801047.html
"Geographic Center: The geographic center of Kentucky is located in Marion County, 3 miles NNW of Lebanon."
Yes, Centre's name does reflect its geographic location in the state. But you forgot to mention Centre was founded... in 1819 (EIGHTEEN-NINETEEN). Don't you think maps, charts, graphics, measurements (etc.) have evolved a little in the last 180+ years that a statement made before 1850 might NOT be correct anymore?
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