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10-16-2006, 10:42 AM
Hopefully Coach Runyon will stick around a few more years because they have another decent group coming in when these boys graduate. A good group that will listen and play together and has a ton of heart and loves and respects BMR. The group in 7th and 8th this year only lost 2 games last year and both were to Pikeville. Who has a good group of youngsters also. :Clap:
10-16-2006, 10:55 AM
I know this group and they are a great bunch of kids! Heck last year they had two 6th Graders (Seth Jarrell and Timmy Sublett) that got some playing time on the 8th Grade team. Both played a ton on the 7th Grade team last year and are both 7th Graders this year. But, they aren't the only ones there are a couple more decent players in that class. They also had another youngster transfer in who is in the 6th this year. Some of you may know his name Tiller. I think PHS will be fine in the years to come.
10-16-2006, 03:59 PM
I watched the freshman team play last year and they looked to have some talent!
They were small but fast! They would be Soph. this year! The Jv team was this same group plus a few. The thing is will they get the playing time behind such a good group to pick up the slack when they finally get the floor when they are SR. Or will they give up sitting on the bench over the yrs.. There is always good and bad to having a good group of kids all in one grade.
They were small but fast! They would be Soph. this year! The Jv team was this same group plus a few. The thing is will they get the playing time behind such a good group to pick up the slack when they finally get the floor when they are SR. Or will they give up sitting on the bench over the yrs.. There is always good and bad to having a good group of kids all in one grade.
10-17-2006, 02:01 AM
*access* Wrote:I watched the freshman team play last year and they looked to have some talent!They had 13 freshmen last year, but I doubt if more than 6 or 7 return to play this year.
They were small but fast! They would be Soph. this year! The Jv team was this same group plus a few. The thing is will they get the playing time behind such a good group to pick up the slack when they finally get the floor when they are SR. Or will they give up sitting on the bench over the yrs.. There is always good and bad to having a good group of kids all in one grade.
Talented kids are still there, but getting them out might be a challenge.
10-17-2006, 10:19 AM
The Guru Wrote:They had 13 freshmen last year, but I doubt if more than 6 or 7 return to play this year.Why would that be a challenge?? If you want to play...PLAY!!! Paintsville is dealing with some jealousy right now but I think the slone kid is a class kid...He plays as hard as anyone I've seen. Kids are jealous of him but he gets the job done!!!
Talented kids are still there, but getting them out might be a challenge.
10-17-2006, 03:28 PM
looks like a great future for Paintsville at least for this season and next while they have Landon Slone he is one of the best basketball players to come from around here in a long time.
10-17-2006, 11:20 PM
Paintsville basketball will be alright for year to come. That doesn't mean they will be region favs or champs every year though. But they will always be competitive. It is Paintsville football I'd be more concerned with right now.
10-18-2006, 12:14 AM
ducky Wrote:Why would that be a challenge?? If you want to play...PLAY!!! Paintsville is dealing with some jealousy right now but I think the slone kid is a class kid...He plays as hard as anyone I've seen. Kids are jealous of him but he gets the job done!!!
This is just personal observation, my theory is.....last year the freshman team had 13 players...the same 5 would start, then mass substitutions would come in and the second string would play a little bit, then the first string, then second string again then the last period would be first string. Nothing wrong with getting 10 players a decent amount of floor time. But,...on more than one occasion, the first string didn't exactly play well.....so I will give an actual example, First string plays the first 4 minutes of a game and we are down 18-9, enter second string, and at by the time the first string is put back in halfway through the second period the score is tied 20-20! We are then outscored 9-0 the rest of the way in the first half, and now we are back down 29-20 at the half. First string starts the second half and plays decent, but can't make up any ground and we trail like 35-25 when the second string enters to play the last 3 and a half minutes of the third and opening 2 minutes of the fourth, in this time the second string claw to within 2 points and the first string reenters to finish the last 5-6 minutes of the game and we lost by 11 points.
What I can figure is that the kids felt as if there was a pecking order and if you were not in the first five from the start, you were not getting there at all!
So as incoming soph's and the prospect of being auto second string on a JV team that might play 5 games all year doesn't seem to incouraging for all the miles you will be logging in!
But any way it works out, Paintsville will still have some very tallented players in the freshman and soph classes this year.
10-18-2006, 08:01 PM
The Guru Wrote:This is just personal observation, my theory is.....last year the freshman team had 13 players...the same 5 would start, then mass substitutions would come in and the second string would play a little bit, then the first string, then second string again then the last period would be first string. Nothing wrong with getting 10 players a decent amount of floor time. But,...on more than one occasion, the first string didn't exactly play well.....so I will give an actual example, First string plays the first 4 minutes of a game and we are down 18-9, enter second string, and at by the time the first string is put back in halfway through the second period the score is tied 20-20! We are then outscored 9-0 the rest of the way in the first half, and now we are back down 29-20 at the half. First string starts the second half and plays decent, but can't make up any ground and we trail like 35-25 when the second string enters to play the last 3 and a half minutes of the third and opening 2 minutes of the fourth, in this time the second string claw to within 2 points and the first string reenters to finish the last 5-6 minutes of the game and we lost by 11 points.
What I can figure is that the kids felt as if there was a pecking order and if you were not in the first five from the start, you were not getting there at all!
So as incoming soph's and the prospect of being auto second string on a JV team that might play 5 games all year doesn't seem to incouraging for all the miles you will be logging in!
But any way it works out, Paintsville will still have some very tallented players in the freshman and soph classes this year.
:thumpsup: That is something that BMR will have to address! But the talent is there!
10-18-2006, 10:10 PM
First of all, there is no way that BMR will retire until this junior class graduates, there is just too much talent for him to walk away now. As for the following years, my prediction for a coach will be either Coach Vanhoose or Coach Ratliff, however, that is just my opinion. As far as talent goes, who knows? You can have all of the talent in the world, but if you don't work hard at something with a passion then it will amount to nothing.
10-18-2006, 11:59 PM
You sure are right about that - talent can be wasted! I have seen some good coaches take some average hard working players and work miracles. And I have seen some bad coaches take great talent and waste it. BBall fundamentals and teamwork win ballgames. That is why NBA Allstar teams do terrible in the Olympics! lol
But Paintsville should be fine with the talent they have and will have over the next 4 to 6 years at least. Unless the coaching changes or the players don't work together. Then who knows.
But Paintsville should be fine with the talent they have and will have over the next 4 to 6 years at least. Unless the coaching changes or the players don't work together. Then who knows.
10-19-2006, 09:45 AM
EKY Sportster Wrote:You sure are right about that - talent can be wasted! I have seen some good coaches take some average hard working players and work miracles. And I have seen some bad coaches take great talent and waste it. BBall fundamentals and teamwork win ballgames. That is why NBA Allstar teams do terrible in the Olympics! lolAlso people have a hard time really figuring out what talent really is to begin with. Dunking and all of the fancy stuff does not maker a player "basketball talented." Why, because they have turned what was intended to be a team concept into a "me" concept. That is why that particular concept will never win games in a team sport.
But Paintsville should be fine with the talent they have and will have over the next 4 to 6 years at least. Unless the coaching changes or the players don't work together. Then who knows.
" next 4 to 6 years"?. I dont see anything more than just being respectable. Bill Mike in my opinion wont hang around with that kind of talent. He bailed on the football team when that happened. He will do the same when the basketball well runs dry this time as well.
10-19-2006, 12:39 PM
rooster Wrote:Also people have a hard time really figuring out what talent really is to begin with. Dunking and all of the fancy stuff does not maker a player "basketball talented." Why, because they have turned what was intended to be a team concept into a "me" concept. That is why that particular concept will never win games in a team sport.Bailed?? The guy was exhausted. I admire him for trying. The well has been dry alot and he's hung around.
" next 4 to 6 years"?. I dont see anything more than just being respectable. Bill Mike in my opinion wont hang around with that kind of talent. He bailed on the football team when that happened. He will do the same when the basketball well runs dry this time as well.
10-19-2006, 08:33 PM
ducky Wrote:Bailed?? The guy was exhausted. I admire him for trying. The well has been dry alot and he's hung around.He tried because he did not want Chuke to have it for the first thing and number two because because he was loaded. When he wasn't going to be loaded he bailed. Period.
There was usually light at the end of the tunnel before, not so anymore. After about 28 years of doing this he will not hang around another 10 waiting on the next loaded crop. Now that's just my opinion.
I'm not trying to talk bad about Coach Runyon because I respect what he has done, but I just dont see him not packing the towels in shortly.
10-19-2006, 11:59 PM
The school board actually asked Runyon to coach football, he never applied for the job (That came from a VERY RELIABLE source). He told them he would do it for one year til they found a permanent head coach. Had Runyon remained head coach Paintsville would be better than they are right now, he coaches, all the boys in that school would have came out, boys who should be playing but aren't.
10-20-2006, 03:01 AM
Redneck Wrote:The school board actually asked Runyon to coach football, he never applied for the job (That came from a VERY RELIABLE source). He told them he would do it for one year til they found a permanent head coach. Had Runyon remained head coach Paintsville would be better than they are right now, he coaches, all the boys in that school would have came out, boys who should be playing but aren't.Just who do you think that you are trying to fool on here. I know what went on and why he coached last year.That's the biggest bunch of crap that has ever been posted on here. Bill Mike would have died before he let Chuke had the job. He despises the ground that Chuke walks on and Chuke had a lot of vocal supporters trying to get him the job especially on the site based council.
Whether more boys would have come out you may be right on that. He certainly had a lot to do with some of them not coming out and playing this year though. He has the influence to encourage the ones to play this year that didn't, if he wanted them to play also, but he didn't do that either, did he?
You can disagree with me all you want about the reason why he didn't come back for a second year, but dont start this garbage that he was begged and pleaded to by the school board his first year, because that is just not the way it was.He was the one that sought it out and drummed up support when he thought that Chuke had a shot at the job, and that old buddy(comes from a very reliable source).
10-20-2006, 10:40 AM
Rooster, if he just stays there for two more years, then retires, is that really considered bailing? You said it yourself, he as been there for 28 years, I dont know how long it has been, I just know it has been a long time. If the 28 is right, then in 2 years it will be 30 years in coaching. So if you retire after 30 years, would that really be considered bailing? Sure some say the talent level is dropping and he would leave because of that. But come on, 30 years... Most people retire from their jobs at 30 years. Why cant coaches? BMR is a VERY respected and time proven coach. It hasnt been said officially that he is going to go, just speculation. If he does decide to leave after 30 years, why not give him the respect he deserves instead of saying he is bailing?
It's not the size of the dog in the fight. It is the size of the fight in the dog.
10-20-2006, 10:45 AM
BasketBallonlyfan Wrote:Rooster, if he just stays there for two more years, then retires, is that really considered bailing? You said it yourself, he as been there for 28 years, I dont know how long it has been, I just know it has been a long time. If the 28 is right, then in 2 years it will be 30 years in coaching. So if you retire after 30 years, would that really be considered bailing? Sure some say the talent level is dropping and he would leave because of that. But come on, 30 years... Most people retire from their jobs at 30 years. Why cant coaches? BMR is a VERY respected and time proven coach. It hasnt been said officially that he is going to go, just speculation. If he does decide to leave after 30 years, why not give him the respect he deserves instead of saying he is bailing?As I said earlier I wasn't trying in any way to say any thing bad about him as a coach or as a person. I just was telling the story like it was, not sugarcoating it. I do respect what he has accomplished and yes to me 30 years of doing anything is in my opinion quite long enough. He has had a Hall of Fame career and yes he should be able to look back and savor what he has been able to do.
10-20-2006, 11:14 AM
My bad, that is the bad part about reading, you cant tell what someone really means....
It's not the size of the dog in the fight. It is the size of the fight in the dog.
10-23-2006, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by cardsfan: IMO BMR will hang it up year after next.Paintsville's talent base is really getting low.They don't have enough young kids coming up to compete with all the other schools in the 57th District and 15th Region.
Paintsville has plenty of talent to compete with the ppl in the 57th district and 15th region, Such as, Jordan Witten and Zac Vialpondo. These two will lead the jv team to many victories.
Paintsville has plenty of talent to compete with the ppl in the 57th district and 15th region, Such as, Jordan Witten and Zac Vialpondo. These two will lead the jv team to many victories.
10-23-2006, 08:10 PM
Rooster you are right. Everything you posted is correct. He did bail on this football team this year. He also quit in the middle of basketball season last year and came back the next day. He has had some great talent to coach, especially in BB. He's the dean of the 15th region. No one coach has gone to the state tourney more than he has. He and an old coach at Pikeville are tied with 7 regional tournament victories. BMR should break the tie in the next 2 years. Give credit where it is due. He was not begged by the BOE to take the football job. End of discussion.
10-23-2006, 10:01 PM
Hey guys, I never said the school board BEGGED him to coach, I said they asked him. That was the story I got from a family member of his. As for Chuke having a chance at the job, I don't think so. There were only a couple of parents who wanted Chuke to get the nod. There were quite a few complaints on Chuke from many parents when he helped out the year before last about him cursing kids and calling them names that I can't post on here. If they would consider hiring a coach that they already had complaints on then they need fired. I do wish Micheal Copley would have hung around though, his strength and conditioning program made Paintsville what they were last year, just ask Pikeville what it has done for them in his short time there, I believe Copley is the reason some wanted Chuke to get the job, so he would hang around.
10-23-2006, 10:34 PM
Redneck Wrote:Hey guys, I never said the school board BEGGED him to coach, I said they asked him. That was the story I got from a family member of his. As for Chuke having a chance at the job, I don't think so. There were only a couple of parents who wanted Chuke to get the nod. There were quite a few complaints on Chuke from many parents when he helped out the year before last about him cursing kids and calling them names that I can't post on here. If they would consider hiring a coach that they already had complaints on then they need fired. I do wish Micheal Copley would have hung around though, his strength and conditioning program made Paintsville what they were last year, just ask Pikeville what it has done for them in his short time there, I believe Copley is the reason some wanted Chuke to get the job, so he would hang around.Yeah, thats something you would never see or hear Bill Mike do.
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