[chalktalk]

They absolutely kill basbetball around here. They think it's a foul if you just touch a player. They won't let the kids play. I totally understand if it changes a players shot or maybe causes a turnover but come on. They want to call everything they can. That's one reason any team gets out of this region and goes to state, struggles when they get there.

[TaintAnewPat]

I have said that for years I really think that hurt Knott co when they had the dream team senior year. You had a kid that was used to dribbling down the floor and if he tripped over his own two feet whoever was closest to him got the foul. When they got in the state tournament and played a team they should clearly have won they did not know how to play when someone get physical with them. I my opinion Paul Olinger is the best Ref in the 14th. He calls like a 7th of 11th region referee. He rarely blows the whistle. Brian Johnson calls the game a lot that way. Outside of those two I can't think of anyone else that is worth a wooden nickel.

[zaga_fan]

As always, the 14th Region is looking for new officials.

You can sign up here and take the test https://officials.khsaa.org/off_app/

To officiate postseason you'll need to pass a harder test and attend a rules clinic, but I'm sure you guys probably don't even need that.

[Jaguarhoundbird]

There was 49 fouls called in the last 13th region game I attended. It's not just the 14th. The 13th-15th are notoriously bad, and want to be the show.

[Jaguarhoundbird]

As always, the 14th Region is looking for new officials.

You can sign up here and take the test https://officials.khsaa.org/off_app/

To officiate postseason you'll need to pass a harder test and attend a rules clinic, but I'm sure you guys probably don't even need that.

When you go to Walmart and have to wait in line forever and complain about it, do you go put in a application at that store? There are people in every profession that's terrible at their job, but most eventually get fired for it. I understand the point you're trying to make, because someone that's an official or has a soft spot for officials gets offended and post something like this every time it's brought up. There's nothing wrong with pointing out someone doing a bad job. But the ones that constantly blame officials get old real quick.

[chalktalk]

I wasn't blaming a ref for a game. Just stating my opinion and it's a fact. Call it to tight.

[E's Army]

Could be worse. Could have 13th region officials

[Jaguarhoundbird]

I wasn't blaming a ref for a game. Just stating my opinion and it's a fact. Call it to tight.

I wasn't referring to you, I was just speaking in general. I agree 100%. They call stuff way too tight into the 13th and 14th. I don't know if it's the refs abilities, or just wanting to be seen. But calling 40-50 fouls a game is ridiculous.

[chalktalk]

I so agree

[EngineerFan57]

Officiating is terrible in every sport. Pays too little to have to travel all over the 14th region, so you have trouble finding refs

[Poseidon]

Being an official is very hard. Games where the fans are especially involved are almost impossible. Officials get yelled at and verbally abused no matter what they call or do not call. For the most part officials do their best and I put the fault for poor officiating on overzealous fans making for a poor and hostile work environment.

[mcn]

As far as the refs calling games "tight", many times they are required to in order to keep games from "getting out of hand". When teams learn to play thru some contact without complaining on almost every play that they were fouled, then you will see the game called different. Fan bases would also have to adjust, fans in the mountain regions can and do become passionate during the game. Go to central ky and see how they call their games....not as many fouls and the players play thru the contact. At the state tournament every year you will see this.
Players and coaches want to see one thing mainly during the officiating of the game....consistency. Or what's called a foul on one team will also be called consistently on the other team.

[Jaguarhoundbird]

As far as the refs calling games "tight", many times they are required to in order to keep games from "getting out of hand". When teams learn to play thru some contact without complaining on almost every play that they were fouled, then you will see the game called different. Fan bases would also have to adjust, fans in the mountain regions can and do become passionate during the game. Go to central ky and see how they call their games....not as many fouls and the players play thru the contact. At the state tournament every year you will see this.
Players and coaches want to see one thing mainly during the officiating of the game....consistency. Or what's called a foul on one team will also be called consistently on the other team.

I've been to 10 this and 11th region games this year, and the reason it's not hostile, is because nobody is there. Lol.

[Jaguarhoundbird]

Being an official is very hard. Games where the fans are especially involved are almost impossible. Officials get yelled at and verbally abused no matter what they call or do not call. For the most part officials do their best and I put the fault for poor officiating on overzealous fans making for a poor and hostile work environment.

So if my boss is on me too much I can do my job poorly? I'll let my bosses know that from now on. Lol.

[99PIRATEFAN]

I believe we could send you a couple from the 15th and you would be happy with what you got

[zaga_fan]

When you go to Walmart and have to wait in line forever and complain about it, do you go put in a application at that store? There are people in every profession that's terrible at their job, but most eventually get fired for it. I understand the point you're trying to make, because someone that's an official or has a soft spot for officials gets offended and post something like this every time it's brought up. There's nothing wrong with pointing out someone doing a bad job. But the ones that constantly blame officials get old real quick.

I'll post this link every time someone complains

[Jaguarhoundbird]

I'll post this link every time someone complains

Except you didn't post a link.......

[zaga_fan]

Except you didn't post a link.......

The link is up there.
You replied to it.

Have a nice day.

[hitter]

My problem with officials( which I am one) is no consistency. They will let a player get mugged on one side of the court and on the other end they will call a touch foul. Calling the same on.both ends of the court would help. And some players get every call because they are suppose to be good. You should call the same way for everybody

[bac2369]

Solution is simple, if it’s a foul call it, but call it the same way on both ends. If not then don’t disrupt the game flow.

[Jaguarhoundbird]

My problem with officials( which I am one) is no consistency. They will let a player get mugged on one side of the court and on the other end they will call a touch foul. Calling the same on.both ends of the court would help. And some players get every call because they are suppose to be good. You should call the same way for everybody

I think the biggest problem there, is that you'll have a ref that's whistle happy under the goal on one end, and one that swallow his under the goal on the other end. I know they have rotations and stuff, but when you have a crew that's not remotely close to being on the same page on how the games going to be called, it makes for a lopsided and miserable game to watch.

[Patriot train]

Reason for a lot of fouls:

Point of emphasis for 2017-2018
4. Guarding. The addition of rule 10.7.12, has been successful in its intent to clean up illegal contact on the ballhandler/dribbler and post players. Players are attempting to
replace this illegal contact with contact observed as “body bumping”. Illegal contact with the body must be ruled a foul however, officials must accurately identify if the defense or offense causes the contact and penalize the player causing the illegal contact. Once a defensive player obtains legal guarding position by facing an opponent with both feet of the floor inbounds, he/she may move to maintain that position in any direction except toward the offensive player being guarded when contact occurs. The defense is not required to keep both feet on the playing court and may jump vertically or laterally to maintain the legal position. If contact occurs prior to the offensive player getting head and shoulders past the defender the responsibility is on the offensive player.

Another reason that you have less fouls in other regions, is most teams after the first few fouls out front or in the post, ADJUST TO HOW THE GAME IS BEING CALLED!!!!! Seems like teams around here don't know how to stop doing the stupid things that they are doing that are being called. They think if they just keep doing it the refs will quit calling them. Because of this, games turn into free throw contests which is not fun for anyone. Yes less fouls are called up state, but that is because they are SMARTER and know how to play without fouling.
Not saying all the refs are perfect, but sometimes people are only looking at the game through their own teams colors, so all they can do is complain.
Like Zaga said, if you think you can do a better job running up and down the court from one end of the region(Jenkins to Estill) to the other for $70, the KHSAA is looking for help everyday. I'm sure they would welcome you with open arms. But of course that will never happen, because most of you that are complaining would never do it, you just like to bad mouth all the people that are out their doing it, just like you bad mouth the coach with little johnny don't get enough playing time. Always the best coaches and refs from the stands.

[Conductor]

I think the fewer fouls called, the more people think they are being hosed . Allowing brutally physical play becomes impossibe to control eventually so it becomes inconstant .

[KentuckyFan35]

I have said that for years I really think that hurt Knott co when they had the dream team senior year. You had a kid that was used to dribbling down the floor and if he tripped over his own two feet whoever was closest to him got the foul. When they got in the state tournament and played a team they should clearly have won they did not know how to play when someone get physical with them. I my opinion Paul Olinger is the best Ref in the 14th. He calls like a 7th of 11th region referee. He rarely blows the whistle. Brian Johnson calls the game a lot that way. Outside of those two I can't think of anyone else that is worth a wooden nickel.

So if you really believe the bold statement answer me this question. Why did the team that beat Knott County shot 42 free throws? Obviously they "let Calloway County play" but they didn't "let Knott County Play!"

[hitter]

If knott would have went to Evan hall they would have won the game. He had a guy about 6'2 guarding him. He scored the first two times he got the ball and didn't see it again