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06-02-2025, 11:54 PM
Dabo was recently on ESPN airing more grievances with the transfer portal.
Not to say that there isn't some legitimacy to what he's saying-- there are some shenanigans that need reigned in and the transfer windows need modified. I don't know that the majority of coaches and fans aren't in agreement with plenty of his points.
I can't say that I currently see the need for a cap on values; if nothing else, it just seems like something that will be circumvented one way or another. That aside, all results and statistics to date seem to show that Swinney is behind the times on both NIL and the portal.
He's one of the least active coaches in the portal and the results just haven't been there. I get that there's pressure from his boosters, alumni, and fans to embrace, or at least take a more active role there, but it seems that there's some validity to their points.
Not that we should be ready to pronounce him dead (he made the CFP last season) but with the college football landscape shifting in such a way that schools like Clemson need to make some adjustments, is Dabo screaming into the void or does it even matter if he isn't willing to adapt to the times and make changes?
Personally, I see a shift where conferences are consolidating power and there seem to be a number of teams ahead of Clemson when it comes to candidates for expansion (North Carolina, Florida State, Miami, and Virginia). That, along with others who offer something similar (NC State [market], Virginia Tech [market & some tradition], Georgia Tech [market, academics, & some tradition], SMU [academics, market & more money], and Duke [academics, market & more money]), it seems like Dabo is fighting a losing battle unless his end-game is to see Clemson become a Boise State-type mid-major.
Not to say that there isn't some legitimacy to what he's saying-- there are some shenanigans that need reigned in and the transfer windows need modified. I don't know that the majority of coaches and fans aren't in agreement with plenty of his points.
I can't say that I currently see the need for a cap on values; if nothing else, it just seems like something that will be circumvented one way or another. That aside, all results and statistics to date seem to show that Swinney is behind the times on both NIL and the portal.
He's one of the least active coaches in the portal and the results just haven't been there. I get that there's pressure from his boosters, alumni, and fans to embrace, or at least take a more active role there, but it seems that there's some validity to their points.
Not that we should be ready to pronounce him dead (he made the CFP last season) but with the college football landscape shifting in such a way that schools like Clemson need to make some adjustments, is Dabo screaming into the void or does it even matter if he isn't willing to adapt to the times and make changes?
Personally, I see a shift where conferences are consolidating power and there seem to be a number of teams ahead of Clemson when it comes to candidates for expansion (North Carolina, Florida State, Miami, and Virginia). That, along with others who offer something similar (NC State [market], Virginia Tech [market & some tradition], Georgia Tech [market, academics, & some tradition], SMU [academics, market & more money], and Duke [academics, market & more money]), it seems like Dabo is fighting a losing battle unless his end-game is to see Clemson become a Boise State-type mid-major.
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06-03-2025, 11:23 AM
As a Clemson fan since Tahj Boyd and Sammy Watkins days. I've always loved Dabo but he's become difficult to listen to in the media with how he talks about the new CFB landscape with the NIL and transfer portal. To me, this is the way it is now. So he's either going to have to embrace it or retire like Saban did. He's had a great career and could retire off into the sunset at a young age or be the old head that screams at kids riding dirt bikes down the street while complaining that kids now days are soft at the same time.
ESPN has Clemson as the #2 ranked team in the way too early polls and I look for us not to be as great as they are advertising us because I've just never been a Cade Klubnik fan. I think he's a great QB and love his toughness and ability to battle but I don't think we win a natty with him at QB unless he just have Joe Burrow LSU 2019 caliber receivers around him. He puts me in the frame of mind of Derek Carr
ESPN has Clemson as the #2 ranked team in the way too early polls and I look for us not to be as great as they are advertising us because I've just never been a Cade Klubnik fan. I think he's a great QB and love his toughness and ability to battle but I don't think we win a natty with him at QB unless he just have Joe Burrow LSU 2019 caliber receivers around him. He puts me in the frame of mind of Derek Carr
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06-04-2025, 11:32 AM
In all honesty I kinda hate what college sports have become. Can't blame the kids for wanting to get paid. Heck I would have wanted that to. I remember the day when a kid got a scholarship offer and was at said school, for four years until graduation. Unless they were good enough to go pro they they left early. Now you don't gotta go pro to get paid. Go to where the money is. Now we got kids playing for three or four different schools until they graduate. Some of these college kids are making more money than some of the pros.
But it is what it is though. Times have changed, guess we gotta deal with it and move on the best we can. As is the case with the Clemson coach. I'm glad Spud mentioned Saban. Because the legendary coach was the first thing I thought of when I seen this thread.
But it is what it is though. Times have changed, guess we gotta deal with it and move on the best we can. As is the case with the Clemson coach. I'm glad Spud mentioned Saban. Because the legendary coach was the first thing I thought of when I seen this thread.
06-04-2025, 02:52 PM
Saban and Dabo are entirely different examples to me. Saban was far older, had way more success (you could argue he had LSU at or near Clemson), and was nearing retirement, but he still evolved and adapted better than Dabo.
06-04-2025, 05:37 PM
I thought of Saban because of the way he's spoken out against these changes in the past. Saban was likely nearing retirement age regardless of NIL. And he really did have LSU built up before his move to Alabama. So CJ, I pretty much agree with the points you made.
Saban is like the godfather of college football
Of all the remaining and active college coaches, there's very few if any Swinney takes a definite back seat to. In terms of accomplishments. Maybe the Georgia coach but that's about all I can think of, off the top of my head. The Georgia coach has done a good job adapting to the NIL era. We'll see how Swinney adjusts.
I know it's been mentioned but Clemson did make the playoffs last year. Things could be a lot worse for them. Maybe Swinney has something going after all.
Saban is like the godfather of college football
Of all the remaining and active college coaches, there's very few if any Swinney takes a definite back seat to. In terms of accomplishments. Maybe the Georgia coach but that's about all I can think of, off the top of my head. The Georgia coach has done a good job adapting to the NIL era. We'll see how Swinney adjusts. I know it's been mentioned but Clemson did make the playoffs last year. Things could be a lot worse for them. Maybe Swinney has something going after all.
06-05-2025, 09:02 AM
I was never a Clemson fan and really couldn't tolerate them since back in the day when they threatened Georgetown College with a lawsuit if they didn't change their helmets. I have never really cared for Dabo either. As stated before me, I really don't like what the NIL and transfer portal have don't to college athletics. Take me back....
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