[TheRealThing]

YOu will find i have never defended this stance, IF someone is raped its a different story. But never would i want someone to have an abortion.

Glad to hear it.

[Wildcatk23]

Glad to hear it.

Although i don't believe in Abortion, Gays, And The Big Bang Theory, I have no Authority to tell someone else how to live there life. They'll meet judgment some day. But not by me.

[Hoot Gibson]

Although i don't believe in Abortion, Gays, And The Big Bang Theory, I have no Authority to tell someone else how to live there life. They'll meet judgment some day. But not by me.

Do you have the authority to tell murderers not to kill innocent people or thieves not to steal? If you believe late term abortions or partial birth abortions are wrong, then why do you believe that society has no right to make a judgment call in this area? Partial birth abortion is clearly infanticide, IMO. Do you really believe that a woman has the right to have another viable human being's life terminated outside the womb simply simply because it is still attached to her by a cord and cutting the cord would result in a inconvenience or burden for her? Where would you draw the line between an abortion and murder?

[Wildcatk23]

Do you have the authority to tell murderers not to kill innocent people or thieves not to steal? If you believe late term abortions or partial birth abortions are wrong, then why do you believe that society has no right to make a judgment call in this area? Partial birth abortion is clearly infanticide, IMO. Do you really believe that a woman has the right to have another viable human being's life terminated outside the womb simply simply because it is still attached to her by a cord and cutting the cord would result in a inconvenience or burden for her? Where would you draw the line between an abortion and murder?

Medical, Rape, Abortions in that area are different in MY Opinion. It Could ruin someones life and even kill them. So It should be left totally to the Victim.

Other than that, I think it should be Illegal. It is Murder,

[Truth]

Medical, Rape, Abortions in that area are different in MY Opinion. It Could ruin someones life and even kill them. So It should be left totally to the Victim.

Other than that, I think it should be Illegal. It is Murder,

Pregnancy resulting from rape is extremely rare. Pregnant females are certainly not victims. They have a right to choose. They can choose to keep their pants zipped. If they become pregnant they have helped to create a new human being from the moment of conception. Morally, biblically, and medically, this is a separate being who is deserving of all the protections provided by the constitution. Because of political cnsiderations rather than reality, the law doesn't accept the moment of conception as the creation of a human being. To recognize this truth would be to confirm that the Due Process Clause and the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment apply to newly created human beings. Nonetheless, the facts are what they are.

[Wildcatk23]

Pregnancy resulting from rape is extremely rare. Pregnant females are certainly not victims. They have a right to choose. They can choose to keep their pants zipped. If they become pregnant they have helped to create a new human being from the moment of conception. Morally, biblically, and medically, this is a separate being who is deserving of all the protections provided by the constitution. Because of political cnsiderations rather than reality, the law doesn't accept the moment of conception as the creation of a human being. To recognize this truth would be to confirm that the Due Process Clause and the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment apply to newly created human beings. Nonetheless, the facts are what they are.

Raped Pregnant women are victims.

Did u miss the part where i said it should be illegal or are u just ignoring the other side again?

[Truth]

Raped Pregnant women are victims.

Did u miss the part where i said it should be illegal or are u just ignoring the other side again?

Those who are struck by lightning are also victims. The two events occur with about the same frequency. Abortionists continually use the rape and incest arguments to try to justify murdering the unborn. I suppose, using their logic, we should outlaw lightning because, on occasion, some are victims to it.

By the way, can you spell "you"? I'm beginning to think you are a public school student preparing to return to the "rigors" of the government education system.

[Wildcatk23]

Those who are struck by lightning are also victims. The two events occur with about the same frequency. Abortionists continually use the rape and incest arguments to try to justify murdering the unborn. I suppose, using their logic, we should outlaw lightning because, on occasion, some are victims to it.

By the way, can you spell "you"? I'm beginning to think you are a public school student preparing to return to the "rigors" of the government education system.

How can u compare Rape to lightning striking? Raped Pregnant women are victims of something happening to their body they do not wish for or in any means is accountable for. It should be their choice. They'll deal with that decision one day.


Awe attacking my spelling? "I learned many years ago that those who have no valid agrument always resort to emotion and drama." :please:
I learned many years ago that those who have no valid agrument always resort to emotion and drama.

[Truth]

How can u compare Rape to lightning striking? Raped Pregnant women are victims of something happening to their body they do not wish for or in any means is accountable for. It should be their choice. They'll deal with that decision one day.


Awe attacking my spelling? "I learned many years ago that those who have no valid agrument always resort to emotion and drama." :please:
I learned many years ago that those who have no valid agrument always resort to emotion and drama.

I learned years ago that educated people know how to communicate using proper grammar and spelling. Much can be learned from reading and/or listening to the communication of another. Sadly, younger people who attended government schools are lacking in these skills. That is why so many of them must take remedial classes in college and are not good prospects for employment in jobs requiring the ability to communicate effectively.

[Hoot Gibson]

Here is yet another story about a mob beating in Philadelphia. In this case, a small number of "teenage boys" randomly beat up a random bicyclist with brass knuckles. The victim described his attackers as being between 15 and 18 but the article makes no mention of whether the attackers were black, white, or Asian.

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Group Of Teens Randomly Attack Man On Kelly Drive

PHILADELPHIA (CBS) – On the same weekend that two men were beaten by violent mobs of teenagers in Center City spurring a police crackdown, another man now says he was randomly attacked on Kelly Drive.

Christopher Dean says he was biking along the drive around 6 p.m. on Sunday evening, July 31. It was a sunny day and plenty of people were out. He was between Boathouse Row and the Girard Avenue bridge heading west, he says, when he saw a group of four or five teenage boys standing by the side of the path. Suddenly, one of them stepped out toward his bicycle and punched him in the face.

Dean was hit so hard, he says he blacked out. Dean says the teens appeared to be between 15 and 18.

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[More Cowbell]

The left-leaning bias of the majority of media sites is sickening. It's the main reason why I stopped reading the "Herald-Liberal" years ago.

There is such a double standard when it comes to race. For some reason, white-on-black violence is considered a "hate crime", but black-on-white violence is not. The hate crime is punished much more severely than the other, "regular" crime. The implication being that the black victims are more important than white victims. If anyone disagrees with this, than tell me exactly how is one to interpret the whole idea of a "hate crime"?

Prominent black activists and politicians like to say that racism is alive and well in this country. And they are right. But just as much as there are still white racists in this country, if blowhards like Al Sharpton want to meet a racist face-to-face, all they have to do is go look in the nearest mirror.

[Deathstar 80]

Hoot Gibson, would you happen to have any recommendations to prevent these attacks? Should people just be more careful?

By the way, I personally think that when it's publicly known that African Americans are becoming violent towards whites because of racism, I'm guessing that there might be an increase in whites becoming violent towards African Americans. Therefore, I personally think it's good for both whites and African Americans to learn how to prevent these attacks from happening to themselves.

As I've said before, the best way to stop anything like this from continuing to grow is by being compassionate towards others. Even if someone gives you a tough day, please continue to care for them.

[TheRealThing]

^ When it comes to Islamic extremists the media are even more reluctant to call the kettle black, or in this case pressure cooker. One must read between the lines to be able to connect PFC Naser Abdo with his Islamic Jehadist terroristic intent down in Fort Hood. Even Fox News didn't call him out in their article, relating the incident in Killeen, Texas. Link---

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/28/exc...n-ft-hood/


I think people are either fascinated by them (Islamists) or scared to death of them. And, who could blame folks for being scared, we've allowed literally millions of immigrants of Arabic descent to take up residence here of late approximately 3.5 milliion according to census records. If the adherents of Jehad decide to take the streets of America in some wave of violence could we even handle it? How far will the Arab Spring Bloom?

But, not to worry, all the liberal bleeding hearts in our government who have insisted on allowing this mass 5th column to come here over the past few years, and in a lot of the cases paid for it with US taxpayer dollars, have voluteered to form a human sheild to protect us in case of trouble. LOL

Speaking of Fox News, Judge Napolitano believes we are bound by law to extend all the rights and privileges every American enjoys to the rest of the planet. IMO Our sovereignty stops at our borders unless we are at war or in a foreign embassy. These goofy judges are behind a lot of the errosion of our society as we are forced by these legislators from the bench to hand over trillions of dollars in benifits to any body overseas who will hold their hand out. At any rate the media REALLY tiptoe when they discuss anything Islam.

[Hoot Gibson]

Hoot Gibson, would you happen to have any recommendations to prevent these attacks? Should people just be more careful?

By the way, I personally think that when it's publicly known that African Americans are becoming violent towards whites because of racism, I'm guessing that there might be an increase in whites becoming violent towards African Americans. Therefore, I personally think it's good for both whites and African Americans to learn how to prevent these attacks from happening to themselves.

As I've said before, the best way to stop anything like this from continuing to grow is by being compassionate towards others. Even if someone gives you a tough day, please continue to care for them.

As an individual, all one can do is avoid areas where racist mobs are most likely to frequent, especially after dark. Otherwise, shame and ridicule is probably the best way to deal with these attacks. The mayor of Philadelphia, who is an African-American himself has begun to speak publicly to the black thugs in his city who have been involved in numerous black on whit mob beatings. More community leaders need to follow his lead because unfortunately, racist thugs seem oblivious to criticism by anybody who does not share their skin color.

Enforcing the law and prosecuting crimes is important but to stop mob violence, it must become "uncool" to be a mobster. Ignoring the racial component of these crimes, which has been the approach that police and community "leaders" in Milwaukee, Chicago and other big US cities, is only making matters worse.

Mayor Nutter's approach is what is needed to begin changing the violent, racist culture of our inner cities.

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Stu Bykofsky: Nutter's tirade on mayhem mobs needed to be said

WITH AN angry blast (following earlier ones that didn't pinpoint race), an impassioned Mayor Nutter said what no white person could (safely) say: Philadelphia's flash-mayhem mobs are black and black parents must accept a role in stopping them.
It was his Bill Cosby moment. By playing the race card in an unexpected way, Nutter can expect a lashing from the black apolog- I mean academics who are more interested in justifying bad behavior than in condemning it.

This nonacademic white boy knows the vast majority of African-Americans are law-abiding and hardworking. Bad behavior by a tiny number of blacks shouldn't fuel fear or disrespect for the vast majority - but I know too many white Philadelphians will do that.

"You damaged your own race," Nutter said before his home congregation at Mount Carmel Baptist Church, knowing the people in the pews are not the problem. The mayor invited coverage because his message - greeted by rousing applause - was aimed over the Baptist heads in West Philly to a larger audience.

If you want other people "to respect you and not be afraid when they see you walking down the street, then leave the innocent people" alone, Nutter said.

He didn't say "innocent white people," but, as far as I can tell, none of the people attacked - in Fairmount, in the subway concourse or at 15th and Walnut - were black. How are my paleface brothers and sisters supposed to feel now when a group of black teens approaches?

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[TheRealVille]

Do you have the authority to tell murderers not to kill innocent people or thieves not to steal? If you believe late term abortions or partial birth abortions are wrong, then why do you believe that society has no right to make a judgment call in this area? Partial birth abortion is clearly infanticide, IMO. Do you really believe that a woman has the right to have another viable human being's life terminated outside the womb simply simply because it is still attached to her by a cord and cutting the cord would result in a inconvenience or burden for her? Where would you draw the line between an abortion and murder?

You do realize that partial birth abortion is already illeagel, right?

[Hoot Gibson]

You do realize that partial birth abortion is already illeagel, right?

You do realize that the liberal Democrats for who you have voted and who you constantly defend on a wide range of issues, not the least of whom is Barack Obama, opposed legislation that made partial birth abortion illegal, right?

My point is that we all support laws that impose our beliefs of what constitutes moral behavior on other members of society and supporting legislation that protects the lives of the innocent unborn is no different. As far as I know, Barack Obama has never supported any law that restricted women from obtaining abortions under any circumstance.

In fact, Obama actively opposed efforts to ban partial birth abortions in the Illinois state senate and even supported hospitals' right to allow survivors of botched abortions to die in agony with no medical treatment. If you do not believe me, then look it up.

My questions to you were to determine where you draw the line between abortion and murder because that line is arbitrary regardless of where it is drawn. I appreciate your response and your position is probably where the majority of Americans stand.

[Stardust]

^ Good post

[Wildcatk23]

I learned years ago that educated people know how to communicate using proper grammar and spelling. Much can be learned from reading and/or listening to the communication of another. Sadly, younger people who attended government schools are lacking in these skills. That is why so many of them must take remedial classes in college and are not good prospects for employment in jobs requiring the ability to communicate effectively.

I posted your own quote and you attacked it , Funny Stuff.

Younger kids aren't lacking in typing or spelling skills because of the learning system. We so called "lack" because its faster and easier and sometimes just habit to put a U instead of typing out you. Bad habit but texting will ruin anyone.

[Deathstar 80]

As an individual, all one can do is avoid areas where racist mobs are most likely to frequent, especially after dark. Otherwise, shame and ridicule is probably the best way to deal with these attacks. The mayor of Philadelphia, who is an African-American himself has begun to speak publicly to the black thugs in his city who have been involved in numerous black on whit mob beatings. More community leaders need to follow his lead because unfortunately, racist thugs seem oblivious to criticism by anybody who does not share their skin color.

These mobs should be publicly ridiculed and rejected at every public event possible. And if whites start attacking African Americans, that should be ridiculed and rejected at every public event as well. It's important to not let this grow into something much worse. If our economy is truly about to get worse, one of the last things our country could handle is widespread racist violence. We have to ridicule this violence so that we can have peace, especially for peace during tough economic times that could be coming soon.

If your an African American, please ridicule and reject these violent attacks. If your a white American, please be ready to ridicule and reject any violent attacks if they occur (and hopefully they won't).