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Evolution encourages racism; Creation encourages we are all the same
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Evolution teaches that each "race" evolved at different times and possibly from different animals; therefore, we are all different, and some skin colors are less wise, less beautiful, less intelligent, or less worthy.

Creation teaches that God "made of one blood all nations of men". It teaches true science about the melanin produced in our bodies can determine the color of our skin. It teaches we are all one and the same - some with more or less melanin in their skin cells.

To read further on this issue click the link:

http://christiananswers.net/q-aig/race-definition.html
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BaseballMan Wrote:Evolution teaches that each "race" evolved at different times and possibly from different animals; therefore, we are all different, and some skin colors are less wise, less beautiful, less intelligent, or less worthy.

Creation teaches that God "made of one blood all nations of men". It teaches true science about the melanin produced in our bodies can determine the color of our skin. It teaches we are all one and the same - some with more or less melanin in their skin cells.

To read further on this issue click the link:

http://christiananswers.net/q-aig/race-definition.html

This is one of the most retarded statements I have ever heard. Wow, I bet that site you quoted sure doesn't have an agenda Rolleyes

Evolution does not teach that some races are better, it teaches that some HUMANS adapted to their environments. Ignorant hick parents teach racism.

EVOLUTION DOES NOT TEACH THAT RACES EVOLVED AT DIFFERENT TIMES FROM DIFFERENT ANIMALS!!!!!!!!!

That is the most ignorant thing I have read in a long time. Evolution teaches that humans evolved and adapted to different situations. Dark-skinned people were traditionally in more sunny, hot areas and it became an adaptation to have less melanin in their skin so that they didn't burn as easily. Light-skinned people traditionally were in colder, less sunny areas and therefore, didn't need that adaptation as much.
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I'm glad someone besides Me and Cavemaster finally decided to challenge Baseballman.
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DevilsWin Wrote:I'm glad someone besides Me and Cavemaster finally decided to challenge Baseballman.

There is no debate going on to be challenged. All that is happening is copy and paste.

I prefer to think for myself and form my own opinions rather than copy and paste others' opinions as my own.
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Midee1 Wrote:There is no debate going on to be challenged. All that is happening is copy and paste.

I prefer to think for myself and form my own opinions rather than copy and paste others' opinions as my own.
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ComfortEagle Wrote:This is one of the most retarded statements I have ever heard. Wow, I bet that site you quoted sure doesn't have an agenda Rolleyes

Evolution does not teach that some races are better, it teaches that some HUMANS adapted to their environments. Ignorant hick parents teach racism.

EVOLUTION DOES NOT TEACH THAT RACES EVOLVED AT DIFFERENT TIMES FROM DIFFERENT ANIMALS!!!!!!!!!

That is the most ignorant thing I have read in a long time. Evolution teaches that humans evolved and adapted to different situations. Dark-skinned people were traditionally in more sunny, hot areas and it became an adaptation to have less melanin in their skin so that they didn't burn as easily. Light-skinned people traditionally were in colder, less sunny areas and therefore, didn't need that adaptation as much.

And you are so wrong that you don't even look up your sources. Look in the Biology textbooks that are at your local high school. Look up race and evolution on google. You'll see how they say that different groups came at different times, even how negroes and others are closest to the ape ancestors.

Here's one result for you by Ernst Haeckel:
[INDENT]"At the lowest stage of human mental development are the Australians, some tribes of the Polynesians, and the Bushmen, Hottentots, and some of the ***** tribes. Nothing, however, is perhaps more remarkable in this respect, than that some of the wildest tribes in southern Asia and eastern Africa have no trace whatever of the first foundations of all human civilization, of family life, and marriage. They live together in herds, like apes."[/INDENT]

That's a very racist statement. The lowest of human mental development are australians, polynesians, bushmen, hottentots, and negroes. I bet he'd be a great fit for the head man of the KKK. You say evolution teaches the idea of melanin, but it was borrowed from the christian worldview of science. You are making some bold statements calling others retarded when you present very little knowledge about your own information.

You are right that ignorant people encourage racism though - and evolution does indeed encourage racism by teaching that certain races are dumber than others.
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Midee1 Wrote:There is no debate going on to be challenged. All that is happening is copy and paste.

I prefer to think for myself and form my own opinions rather than copy and paste others' opinions as my own.

I see no debate from you or from your own opinions.

Also, I prefer to think the things that God teaches, not my own fallible opinions. I am simply posting ideas that are backed by scripture. Do you have any basis for the things you think?
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DevilsWin Wrote:Dang Skippy!TongueirateSho

Do you have any opinions you wish to present?
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BaseballMan Wrote:And you are so wrong that you don't even look up your sources. Look in the Biology textbooks that are at your local high school. Look up race and evolution on google. You'll see how they say that different groups came at different times, even how negroes and others are closest to the ape ancestors.


Here's one result for you by Ernst Haeckel:[INDENT]"At the lowest stage of human mental development are the Australians, some tribes of the Polynesians, and the Bushmen, Hottentots, and some of the ***** tribes. Nothing, however, is perhaps more remarkable in this respect, than that some of the wildest tribes in southern Asia and eastern Africa have no trace whatever of the first foundations of all human civilization, of family life, and marriage. They live together in herds, like apes."[/INDENT]
That's a very racist statement. The lowest of human mental development are australians, polynesians, bushmen, hottentots, and negroes. I bet he'd be a great fit for the head man of the KKK. You say evolution teaches the idea of melanin, but it was borrowed from the christian worldview of science. You are making some bold statements calling others retarded when you present very little knowledge about your own information.

You are right that ignorant people encourage racism though - and evolution does indeed encourage racism by teaching that certain races are dumber than others.

I once talked to a guy in the KKK who based his racial superiority ideas on a curse spoken by a drunken Noah to one of his sons... he then said, "and if one part of the Bible ain't right, ain't none of it right." So, I guess, the Bible itself has encouraged racism.
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thecavemaster Wrote:I once talked to a guy in the KKK who based his racial superiority ideas on a curse spoken by a drunken Noah to one of his sons... he then said, "and if one part of the Bible ain't right, ain't none of it right." So, I guess, the Bible itself has encouraged racism.

The Bible has never encouraged racism. Foolish people who claim that the Bible says something when they've never read a page in the book will make all sorts of claims.

You see, the difference between evolution encouraging racism and your post of a foolish guy is that there is actual evidence supporting my claim. Your claim is from foolish thinking that is actually found nowhere in Scripture.
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BaseballMan Wrote:And you are so wrong that you don't even look up your sources. Look in the Biology textbooks that are at your local high school. Look up race and evolution on google. You'll see how they say that different groups came at different times, even how negroes and others are closest to the ape ancestors.


Here's one result for you by Ernst Haeckel:[INDENT]"At the lowest stage of human mental development are the Australians, some tribes of the Polynesians, and the Bushmen, Hottentots, and some of the ***** tribes. Nothing, however, is perhaps more remarkable in this respect, than that some of the wildest tribes in southern Asia and eastern Africa have no trace whatever of the first foundations of all human civilization, of family life, and marriage. They live together in herds, like apes."[/INDENT]
That's a very racist statement. The lowest of human mental development are australians, polynesians, bushmen, hottentots, and negroes. I bet he'd be a great fit for the head man of the KKK. You say evolution teaches the idea of melanin, but it was borrowed from the christian worldview of science. You are making some bold statements calling others retarded when you present very little knowledge about your own information.

You are right that ignorant people encourage racism though - and evolution does indeed encourage racism by teaching that certain races are dumber than others.

The science has changed since Ernest Haeckel's day. In the new and changing world of DNA these notions have all been either been put to rest or unproven.

When citing an opponent it is always convenient to pick the indefensible.
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BaseballMan Wrote:The Bible has never encouraged racism. Foolish people who claim that the Bible says something when they've never read a page in the book will make all sorts of claims.

You see, the difference between evolution encouraging racism and your post of a foolish guy is that there is actual evidence supporting my claim. Your claim is from foolish thinking that is actually found nowhere in Scripture.

Perhaps; however, the Jews hated the Samaritans, among others, ostensibly because as god's "chosen people" they couldn't be expected to feel charitably toward the muck and riff and raff and rabble of the world...
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thecavemaster Wrote:Perhaps; however, the Jews hated the Samaritans, among others, ostensibly because as god's "chosen people" they couldn't be expected to feel charitably toward the muck and riff and raff and rabble of the world...

Not all Jews hated the Samaritans. Besides the Jews are only fallible human beings. They were chosen to carry the glory of God. When they were arrogant or sinful, God didn't just pardon their sin but reprimanded them for it. Just because God chose to reveal Himself through the Jews doesn't make them perfect nor present any case that the Bible encourages racism.
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DevilsWin Wrote:The science has changed since Ernest Haeckel's day. In the new and changing world of DNA these notions have all been either been put to rest or unproven.

When citing an opponent it is always convenient to pick the indefensible.

The scientific information is still the same. It is only the views of the evolutionary scientists that have changed to try and piece together their belief by any means necessary other than creation. However, the Bible has never changed on it's view, and the more scientists discover through science the more information they have that backs the biblical view of creation.

I wasn't picking the indefensible, but one of the most prominent Darwinian evolutionists.
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BaseballMan Wrote:Not all Jews hated the Samaritans. Besides the Jews are only fallible human beings. They were chosen to carry the glory of God. When they were arrogant or sinful, God didn't just pardon their sin but reprimanded them for it. Just because God chose to reveal Himself through the Jews doesn't make them perfect nor present any case that the Bible encourages racism.

Well, Jesus said the test of the tree be the fruit... what kind of fruit has the Bible, religion produced? It's a fruit cocktail: mixed fruit, good and bad, fresh and rotten. The "angels" of god himself have to pick through the net sorting the fish, separating goats and sheep. Interpretations of the Bible have wreaked far more suffering upon the human race than evolution ever has, does now, or ever will.
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BaseballMan Wrote:Not all Jews hated the Samaritans. Besides the Jews are only fallible human beings. They were chosen to carry the glory of God. When they were arrogant or sinful, God didn't just pardon their sin but reprimanded them for it. Just because God chose to reveal Himself through the Jews doesn't make them perfect nor present any case that the Bible encourages racism.

Well, Jesus said the test of the tree be the fruit... what kind of fruit has the Bible, religion produced? It's a fruit cocktail: mixed fruit, good and bad, fresh and rotten. The "angels" of god himself have to pick through the net sorting the fish, separating goats and sheep. Interpretations of the Bible have wreaked far more suffering upon the human race than evolution ever has, does now, or ever will.
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thecavemaster Wrote:Well, Jesus said the test of the tree be the fruit... what kind of fruit has the Bible, religion produced? It's a fruit cocktail: mixed fruit, good and bad, fresh and rotten. The "angels" of god himself have to pick through the net sorting the fish, separating goats and sheep. Interpretations of the Bible have wreaked far more suffering upon the human race than evolution ever has, does now, or ever will.

Jesus said that. Would you care to site your reference.

The Bible has produced good will, love, joy, peace, character; I can go on. There is even a verse about the fruit of the spirit. Everything good comes from God. It has produced everything that is good.

Where do you get your information of the angels picking through the net from? False interpretations wreak havoc and suffering - whether it being a person falsing interpreting the bible or falsely interpreting science or the origin of life.

After reading how Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot, and Hitler justified their acts by their beliefs in evolution, I can only say that your last statement is completely false.

The true interpretation of the bible has brought abundant life to many people. Through His word, God has turned drunkards, homosexuals, murderers, and the worst of sinners into righteous men and women.
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BaseballMan Wrote:Jesus said that. Would you care to site your reference.

The Bible has produced good will, love, joy, peace, character; I can go on. There is even a verse about the fruit of the spirit. Everything good comes from God. It has produced everything that is good.

Where do you get your information of the angels picking through the net from? False interpretations wreak havoc and suffering - whether it being a person falsing interpreting the bible or falsely interpreting science or the origin of life.

After reading how Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot, and Hitler justified their acts by their beliefs in evolution, I can only say that your last statement is completely false.

The true interpretation of the bible has brought abundant life to many people. Through His word, God has turned drunkards, homosexuals, murderers, and the worst of sinners into righteous men and women.

Gospel a dragnet pulled through the earth...gathering good and bad fish... the net is sorted at the end of the age. ... Hitler claimed to be a Christian. The Inquisitors claimed to be Christians. Constantine said he conquered via a heavenly sign of a cross. Human desire, human ego, human conquest co-opting religion for vulgar means, pandering to the idiot crowd talking about god and his hatred of the "heathen".... here is why religion poisons everthing.
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BaseballMan Wrote:And you are so wrong that you don't even look up your sources. Look in the Biology textbooks that are at your local high school. Look up race and evolution on google. You'll see how they say that different groups came at different times, even how negroes and others are closest to the ape ancestors.

Here's one result for you by Ernst Haeckel:
[INDENT]"At the lowest stage of human mental development are the Australians, some tribes of the Polynesians, and the Bushmen, Hottentots, and some of the ***** tribes. Nothing, however, is perhaps more remarkable in this respect, than that some of the wildest tribes in southern Asia and eastern Africa have no trace whatever of the first foundations of all human civilization, of family life, and marriage. They live together in herds, like apes."[/INDENT]

That's a very racist statement. The lowest of human mental development are australians, polynesians, bushmen, hottentots, and negroes. I bet he'd be a great fit for the head man of the KKK. You say evolution teaches the idea of melanin, but it was borrowed from the christian worldview of science. You are making some bold statements calling others retarded when you present very little knowledge about your own information.

You are right that ignorant people encourage racism though - and evolution does indeed encourage racism by teaching that certain races are dumber than others.

Google is NOT a reliable source, and none of my textbooks, high school nor college has said what you have just said above.

You are spreading false lies.

P.S. Ernst Haeckel died in 1919....all of his statements are almost a hundred years old...things have changed and we have made new discoveries since then. We have also come a long way in how we treat and think about other races.
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