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06-17-2012, 07:16 PM
06-17-2012, 07:22 PM
I didn't know Mitt was a draft dodger.
06-17-2012, 09:09 PM
I didnt know Barry was born in Thailand.
06-18-2012, 02:43 PM
TheRealVille Wrote:I didn't know Mitt was a draft dodger.
Aren't you the guy that thinks he can arbitrarily vett all the sources and links that the conservative posters on here put up? Then vector puts up something from outer space and you run with it like it's irrefutable proof. Who supposedly authored this stuff? I mean obscure sources are one thing, sources out of the blue are something else again. Looks like nothing more than a left wing organization's attempt to smear their hero's political foe to me. Here is the sum total of what the site says about Romney and his military status.
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"After four years of deferments through student and missionary status, Romney draws
high draft number and avoids conscription and service in Vietnam"
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We went through all this before. There isn't the first thing wrong with Viet Nam Era military deferments. They were enacted and defined by the US federal government in cooperation with all the branches of the armed services. The idea was to draft qualified candidates who were not involved with college, or who were married, or who had some form of physical or mental shorfall.
The reason for deferments was the widely accepted wisdom that college students would contribute in ways other than militarily to their country. If anybody ever lived up to that conventional wisdom it is Mitt Romney. An unqualified success by any standard, other than those of the left wing extremist's, secular humanist agenda. You're slamming an awful lot of good folks with that draft dodger talk.
But, everybody knows that liberals tend to invent unflattering rumors to compromise the character of republican candidates where no actualy flaws exist. Everybody except liberals that is. You guys are the only ones who actually buy into the propaganda spewed by the DNC and the on-line dirt mills which spread the falsehoods and such. BTW, I knew several guys that got a high draft number and I never heard of a single one who asked to go ahead of those with a lower lottery number.
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06-18-2012, 09:25 PM
TheRealThing Wrote:Aren't you the guy that thinks he can arbitrarily vett all the sources and links that the conservative posters on here put up? Then vector puts up something from outer space and you run with it like it's irrefutable proof. Who supposedly authored this stuff? I mean obscure sources are one thing, sources out of the blue are something else again. Looks like nothing more than a left wing organization's attempt to smear their hero's political foe to me. Here is the sum total of what the site says about Romney and his military status.My father in law went to Vietnam, and hasn't been the same since. I hate draft dodgers like Mitt.
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"After four years of deferments through student and missionary status, Romney draws
high draft number and avoids conscription and service in Vietnam"
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We went through all this before. There isn't the first thing wrong with Viet Nam Era military deferments. They were enacted and defined by the US federal government in cooperation with all the branches of the armed services. The idea was to draft qualified candidates who were not involved with college, or who were married, or who had some form of physical or mental shorfall.
The reason for deferments was the widely accepted wisdom that college students would contribute in ways other than militarily to their country. If anybody ever lived up to that conventional wisdom it is Mitt Romney. An unqualified success by any standard, other than those of the left wing extremist's, secular humanist agenda. You're slamming an awful lot of good folks with that draft dodger talk.
But, everybody knows that liberals tend to invent unflattering rumors to compromise the character of republican candidates where no actualy flaws exist. Everybody except liberals that is. You guys are the only ones who actually buy into the propaganda spewed by the DNC and the on-line dirt mills which spread the falsehoods and such. BTW, I knew several guys that got a high draft number and I never heard of a single one who asked to go ahead of those with a lower lottery number.
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06-18-2012, 09:27 PM
What branch of the service did Obama serve in?
06-18-2012, 09:33 PM
Muhammed Ali- "I cant go im muslim now"
He's still loved by a bunch of people, even though he may have been the worst draft dodger of them all.
He's still loved by a bunch of people, even though he may have been the worst draft dodger of them all.
06-18-2012, 10:03 PM
TheRealVille Wrote:My father in law went to Vietnam, and hasn't been the same since. I hate draft dodgers like Mitt.[YOUTUBE="Fortunate Son Mitt"]Pl1xATrGMtg[/YOUTUBE]
:hilarious: I'd bet there wouldn't be much love lost! Really, I can well understand how the mere thought of Romney's military record would invoke a bitter vetch in your mouth. Especially after the sterling performance BHO put on with Russian president Dimitri Medvedev, when he was caught again on a hot mic gaff;
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Monday, March 26: President Obama may want to be more careful around microphones. For the second time in six months, a live mic picked up a private exchange between the president and a world leader, this time Russian President Dmitri Medvedev.
In Seoul on Monday, Obama assured the outgoing Russian leader that a compromise over a contentious missile defense system could be reached after the 2012 election. "This can be solved, but it’s important for him to give me space," Obama said, referring to incoming Russian president Vladimir Putin. "This is my last election. After my election, I have more flexibility."
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I mean, we have this guy on tape promising to compromise his own nation after the election and begging for more time to do so. Of course, the president of the United States of America, offering to sell us out to the Russians after the election pales in comparison to Romney's federally sanctioned deferment. Even though it was entirely legal, and millions of young American men in college did the exact same thing, what kind of a dog would actually follow the law like that? From what I've seen it sure wouldn't be Obama. BHO's infamous gaff shows two things, 1. nothing is sacred to him except the liberal agenda and 2. he will say or do anything to keep himself in the white house, above all else, it's dern the torpedos, "Hail to the King", oops, I meant "Chief
, for four more years.
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06-19-2012, 12:19 AM
Bob Seger Wrote:What branch of the service did Obama serve in?
The Indonesian national guard?
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06-19-2012, 04:32 AM
Bob Seger Wrote:What branch of the service did Obama serve in?If I remember correct, Obama wasn't old enough to dodge any vietnam draft.
06-19-2012, 08:51 AM
Vietnam or not. I was just wondering if he served in the armed forces at any time?
06-19-2012, 04:00 PM
He was to busy organising the community and meeting with Bill Ayers
06-19-2012, 07:10 PM
Bob Seger Wrote:Vietnam or not. I was just wondering if he served in the armed forces at any time?Does he have to, to be President?
06-19-2012, 10:56 PM
Does Romney have to as well?
What's the difference? Romney has to serve but Obama doesn't? Whether it's wartime or peacetime, it makes no difference.
The Vietnam conflict was never declared a war anyways, it was called a police action. I am sure that there was some kind of a police action, or conflict between the US and somebody somewhere during Obama's "of age" years. How come he never enlisted with the armed forces when it was his time, and why is it only Romney that you rake over the coals? Why aren't you lamblasting Obama for the same thing?
What's the difference? Romney has to serve but Obama doesn't? Whether it's wartime or peacetime, it makes no difference.
The Vietnam conflict was never declared a war anyways, it was called a police action. I am sure that there was some kind of a police action, or conflict between the US and somebody somewhere during Obama's "of age" years. How come he never enlisted with the armed forces when it was his time, and why is it only Romney that you rake over the coals? Why aren't you lamblasting Obama for the same thing?
06-19-2012, 11:09 PM
TheRealVille Wrote:If I remember correct, Obama wasn't old enough to dodge any vietnam draft.
How about Desert Storm, Grenada, or any of the other little police actions that occured during his "years of age" Those were all police actions, just like Vietnam was. Vietnam was not a war. There was also no draft during Obama's period either. Anyone that you define as a patriot (as you do Obama) should have the moral convictions to volunteer without being drafted. To me that doesn't make Ol' Barry much of a hero in my book either.
06-20-2012, 12:29 AM
^ Actually Desert Storm or the Persian Gulf War was a war. Vietnam was not!!! Did our glorious leader offer his services to his country then? That was certainly during his period of age eligibility, wasn't it?
06-20-2012, 12:44 AM
Bob Seger Wrote:How about Desert Storm, Grenada, or any of the other little police actions that occured during his "years of age" Those were all police actions, just like Vietnam was. Vietnam was not a war. There was also no draft during Obama's period either. Anyone that you define as a patriot (as you do Obama) should have the moral convictions to volunteer without being drafted. To me that doesn't make Ol' Barry much of a hero in my book either.Give Barry some credit, Bob. He has fought a long battle against The Man, along with his Chicago friends like Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn. He also traveled to Kenya in 2007 to campaign for current Kenyan Prime Minister Raila Odinga during an unsuccessful presidential campaign (Odings's, not Obama's). When Odinga, who has claimed to be Obama's first cousin, lost the election, he accused his opponent of election fraud and his supporters rioted until the Kenyan government created the position of Prime Minister for Odinga. Obama was long gone before the bloody post-election fights erupted in Kenya, but he had a dog in that fight.
In a related matter, there have been allegations that Obama's Selective Service registration was forged, but like so many of Obama's records, he has blocked public access to it. Sheriff Joe has been among those who, so far, have been unsuccessful in obtaining a copy of Obama's Selective Service record.
06-20-2012, 04:38 AM
Bob Seger Wrote:Does Romney have to as well?There wasn't a draft at the time of Obama, but there was during Mitt's time.
What's the difference? Romney has to serve but Obama doesn't? Whether it's wartime or peacetime, it makes no difference.
The Vietnam conflict was never declared a war anyways, it was called a police action. I am sure that there was some kind of a police action, or conflict between the US and somebody somewhere during Obama's "of age" years. How come he never enlisted with the armed forces when it was his time, and why is it only Romney that you rake over the coals? Why aren't you lamblasting Obama for the same thing?
06-20-2012, 08:38 AM
Bob Seger Wrote:How about Desert Storm, Grenada, or any of the other little police actions that occured during his "years of age" Those were all police actions, just like Vietnam was. Vietnam was not a war. There was also no draft during Obama's period either. Anyone that you define as a patriot (as you do Obama) should have the moral convictions to volunteer without being drafted. To me that doesn't make Ol' Barry much of a hero in my book either.
^ That's what I said. Why does it make a difference?
06-20-2012, 07:13 PM
Bob Seger Wrote:How about Desert Storm, Grenada, or any of the other little police actions that occured during his "years of age" Those were all police actions, just like Vietnam was. Vietnam was not a war. There was also no draft during Obama's period either. Anyone that you define as a patriot (as you do Obama) should have the moral convictions to volunteer without being drafted. To me that doesn't make Ol' Barry much of a hero in my book either.You answered your own question. There was a draft during Mitt's time, and no draft during Obama's.
06-20-2012, 10:38 PM
And I also elaborated that it should not have mattered if there was a draft in existance at the time or not or not. Bottom line, any criticism of Romney is 100% unwarranted.
06-20-2012, 11:41 PM
Bob Seger Wrote:Does Romney have to as well?
What's the difference? Romney has to serve but Obama doesn't? Whether it's wartime or peacetime, it makes no difference.
The Vietnam conflict was never declared a war anyways, it was called a police action. I am sure that there was some kind of a police action, or conflict between the US and somebody somewhere during Obama's "of age" years. How come he never enlisted with the armed forces when it was his time, and why is it only Romney that you rake over the coals? Why aren't you lamblasting Obama for the same thing?
It isn't about service to our country, it's about making republicans look bad. Just another aspersion with no real basis in truth. People who were legally deferred from service in the military during their college years were and are considered special and a viable resource to our nation. What's funny about the label of 'draft dodger,' is college grads were taken in and given an immediate commission in the branch of their choice. That's how it's determined who gets to be an officer in all branches of the US military, college grads are always officers.
Only two US Presidents did not serve in the US Armed Services, they are none other than Bill Clinton, who did lead the draft board on a merry pursuit, and Barack Obama. The last president who did not serve prior to Clinton was FDR.
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06-21-2012, 12:23 AM
TheRealThing Wrote:It isn't about service to our country, it's about making republicans look bad. Just another aspersion with no real basis in truth. People who were legally deferred from service in the military during their college years were and are considered special and a viable resource to our nation. What's funny about the label of 'draft dodger,' is college grads were taken in and given an immediate commission in the branch of their choice. That's how it's determined who gets to be an officer in all branches of the US military, college grads are always officers.You are just full of fuzzy facts. You point out two democrats as the only ones that haven't served, yet there were several others that didn't. There were 13 in total.
Only two US Presidents did not serve in the US Armed Services, they are none other than Bill Clinton, who did lead the draft board on a merry pursuit, and Barack Obama.The last president who did not serve prior to Clinton was FDR.
John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, John Quincy Adams, Martin Van Buren, Grover Cleveland, William Taft, Woodrow Wilson, Warren Harding, Calvin Coolidge, Herbert Hoover, Franklin Roosevelt, Bill Clinton, and Obama did not serve.
06-21-2012, 01:32 PM
TheRealVille Wrote:You are just full of fuzzy facts. You point out two democrats as the only ones that haven't served, yet there were several others that didn't. There were 13 in total.
John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, John Quincy Adams, Martin Van Buren, Grover Cleveland, William Taft, Woodrow Wilson, Warren Harding, Calvin Coolidge, Herbert Hoover, Franklin Roosevelt, Bill Clinton, and Obama did not serve.
You'll notice I said "the last president prior to Clinton was FDR" at the time I didn't feel it was necessary to list them all.
I should have said, Only two US Presidents did not serve in the US Armed Services of late, so as not to confuse you. The fact still remains, in modern times only two US Presidents bear the distinction of NOT serving in the US Armed Services, Billy boy and Barack. To me one reason this fact is significant is because being liberal to the core, both eschewed serving their country, that is one trait all liberals seem to have in common. I might add that I greatly appreciate you giving me the opportunity to make that statement again. :thanks:
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07-10-2012, 07:16 PM
About Mitt: Nothing says "I love America, like hiding money is a Swiss bank to avoid paying taxes".
07-10-2012, 09:11 PM
Obama tax hike would affect 1.2 million small businesses
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Obamaâs green jobs bust
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Despite pension meltdown, House Democrat praises auto bailout architects
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Obamaâs green jobs bust
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Despite pension meltdown, House Democrat praises auto bailout architects
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07-10-2012, 09:20 PM
TheRealVille Wrote:About Mitt: Nothing says "I love America, like hiding money is a Swiss bank to avoid paying taxes".About Debbie, Obama's go to girl:
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Disclosure forms reveal that Democratic National Committee chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz, a member of Congress from Florida, previously held funds with investments in Swiss banks, foreign drug companies, and the state bank of India. This revelation comes mere days after the Democratic chair attacked presumptive Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney for holding money in Swiss bank accounts in the past.
"Americans need to ask themselves, why does an American businessman need a Swiss bank account and secretive investments like that?" the DNC chair, a chief surrogate for President Obama's reelection team, said on Fox News Sunday two days ago. "Just something, a thought, that I'd like to leave folks with."
It's been a consistent theme of Obama's reelection strategy: Attack Romney for foreign investments he held, especially in Swiss bank accounts, "to try to promote his wealthy, out-of-touch businessman persona."
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07-10-2012, 09:33 PM
TheRealVille Wrote:There wasn't a draft at the time of Obama, but there was during Mitt's time.
TheRealVille Wrote:You answered your own question. There was a draft during Mitt's time, and no draft during Obama's.
TheRealVille Wrote:I didn't know Mitt was a draft dodger.If this is a real issue...........did you vote for McCain in 2008?
07-11-2012, 04:30 AM
nky Wrote:If this is a real issue...........did you vote for McCain in 2008?Are you serious? No, I didn't vote for McCain. If McCain and Romney were my two choices, I would vote for McCain, though.
07-11-2012, 04:32 AM
Hoot Gibson Wrote:About Debbie, Obama's go to girl:Is she running against Romney? Romney is running against Obama. It's been in all the papers.
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