[Hoot Gibson]

This is the biggest reason why Romney will win easily in November. The number of disabled people grew more in June than the number of employed people. Since June 2009, the economy has grown 2.6 million jobs, while 3.1 million people have begun drawing disability benefits. But don't worry says Barack Obama, "The private sector is doing just fine." The official unemployment rate remains stuck at 8.2 percent but only because so many people have left the workforce to collect a government check.

Romney raised $100 million in June alone. Americans who work for a living and those who still want to work for a living are fed up with this clown.

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[COLOR="Blue"]Disability Ranks Outpace New Jobs In Obama Recovery

More workers joined the federal government's disability program in June than got new jobs, according to two new government reports, a clear indicator of how bleak the nation's jobs picture is after three full years of economic recovery.

The economy created just 80,000 jobs in June, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Friday. But that same month, 85,000 workers left the workforce entirely to enroll in the Social Security Disability Insurance program, according to the Social Security Administration.

The disability ranks have outpaced job growth throughout President Obama's recovery. While the economy has created 2.6 million jobs since June 2009, fully 3.1 million workers signed up for disability benefits.

In other words, the number of new disability enrollees has climbed 19% faster than the number of jobs created during the sluggish recovery. (Even after accounting for people who left the disability program because they died or aged into retirement, disability ranks have climbed more than 1.1 million in the past three years.)

And the disability ranks will continue to swell. In just the last month, almost 275,000 put in applications for disability benefits. Experts say that more people try to get on disability when jobs are scarce, and changes to eligibility rules enacted back in 1984 have made it far easier to qualify.
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[vector]

This is the biggest reason why Romney will win easily in November. The number of disabled people grew more in June than the number of employed people. Since June 2009, the economy has grown 2.6 million jobs, while 3.1 million people have begun drawing disability benefits. But don't worry says Barack Obama, "The private sector is doing just fine." The official unemployment rate remains stuck at 8.2 percent but only because so many people have left the workforce to collect a government check.

Romney raised $100 million in June alone. Americans who work for a living and those who still want to work for a living are fed up with this clown.

you are living off the TAXPAYERS MONEY RIGHT defense contractor

[Hoot Gibson]

you are living off the TAXPAYERS MONEY RIGHT defense contractor

Do you expect me to work for free? Because, whether you expect it or not, I work well beyond a 40 hours a week and do not charge the federal government for those extra hours. Somebody has to write the programs that our military uses to support our men and women in uniform and it might as well be me as one of my friends from Mumbai.

[the other guy]

you are living off the TAXPAYERS MONEY RIGHT defense contractor

You always seem to attack the poster and not the post.

[vector]

You always seem to attack the poster and not the post.

hoot's all the time talks about goverment spending and thats how he makes his living

[Hoot Gibson]

hoot's all the time talks about goverment spending and thats how he makes his living

I make my living by working hard and performing a valuable service. Paying millions of people to do nothing but vote for Democratic candidates is not the same. For most of my career (90%), I have worked in the private sector and when the economy recovers, I plan to work for private sector customers again in the future.

Unlike most of your fellow Obama voters, I will never throw a saddle on the back of working Americans and collect a government check for doing nothing. My vote is not for sale.

Do you work, vector, or are you one of the millions of people who get government checks for sitting at home, watching TV, and voting for Democrats? Your poor understanding of how a free market economy works makes me suspect that you either are already drawing a government check or soon will be.

[vector]

I make my living by working hard and performing a valuable service. Paying millions of people to do nothing but vote for Democratic candidates is not the same. For most of my career (90%), I have worked in the private sector and when the economy recovers, I plan to work for private sector customers again in the future.

Unlike most of your fellow Obama voters, I will never throw a saddle on the back of working Americans and collect a government check for doing nothing. My vote is not for sale.

Do you work, vector, or are you one of the millions of people who get government checks for sitting at home, watching TV, and voting for Democrats? Your poor understanding of how a free market economy works makes me suspect that you either are already drawing a government check or soon will be.

yes i have worked since i was 14 now i am little less than 1 month away
from being 52 but you do make your money off the taxpayers

[Hoot Gibson]

yes i have worked since i was 14 now i am little less than 1 month away
from being 52 but you do make your money off the taxpayers

So, you currently work as a coal miner, yet you support Obama whose policies are decimating the industry in which you work? That is very interesting. When Obama succeeds in putting you and your coworkers out of work, do you have a Plan B? Does you employer know that you support the efforts to destroy coal mining? It sounds as if you are hoping that Obama makes you unemployable so that you can draw a government check. I cannot think of any other reason that a coal miner would support Obama.

[vector]

So, you currently work as a coal miner, yet you support Obama whose policies are decimating the industry in which you work? That is very interesting. When Obama succeeds in putting you and your coworkers out of work, do you have a Plan B? Does you employer know that you support the efforts to destroy coal mining? It sounds as if you are hoping that Obama makes you unemployable so that you can draw a government check. I cannot think of any other reason that a coal miner would support Obama.

you have no clue what you are talking about
right now it's the market and natural gas as far
as the epa jay rockefeller told the truth it will cost
him his next election but in 1990 bush 1 passed
the clean water and air act gave these power plants
20 some years to install these scrubbers some of
them did some did not the coal operators just kick
the can down the road all or nothing when they
should been working with the power
company's and helped them install these scrubbers alot of these coal
fired plant's where already going to shut down built in the 20's and 40's
cost to much to put scrubbers in them so the oil company's come up with
new techonolgy where they can get alot of natural gas so in about 2004
they started building these gas generators beside there coal fired plants
invested billons of dollars wonder why they knowed this was a coming
as far as a plan B i'm pretty good shape so don't you worry about plan
B

[Hoot Gibson]

you have no clue what you are talking about
right now it's the market and natural gas as far
as the epa jay rockefeller told the truth it will cost
him his next election but in 1990 bush 1 passed
the clean water and air act gave these power plants
20 some years to install these scrubbers some of
them did some did not the coal operators just kick
the can down the road all or nothing when they
should been working with the power
company's and helped them install these scrubbers alot of these coal
fired plant's where already going to shut down built in the 20's and 40's
cost to much to put scrubbers in them so the oil company's come up with
new techonolgy where they can get alot of natural gas so in about 2004
they started building these gas generators beside there coal fired plants
invested billons of dollars wonder why they knowed this was a coming
as far as a plan B i'm pretty good shape so don't you worry about plan
B

Like I said, you don't have a clue about how a free market economy is supposed to work. I am not worried about your Plan B. People with your attitude toward companies and the government do not seem to have any qualms about retiring early on the taxpayers' dime. That is why Obama's economy is producing more disability claims than jobs.

[vector]

Like I said, you don't have a clue about how a free market economy is supposed to work. I am not worried about your Plan B. People with your attitude toward companies and the government do not seem to have any qualms about retiring early on the taxpayers' dime. That is why Obama's economy is producing more disability claims than jobs.

i still work i don't sit behind no desk on my fat ass

[SKINNYPIG]

i still work i don't sit behind no desk on my fat ass

Puerile.

[Hoot Gibson]

i still work i don't sit behind no desk on my fat ass

If you are dumb enough to vote for Obama again after what he is doing to the coal industry, it is obvious that you would rather be at home drawing a check than working. Shoveling belt lines is hard work.

[Truth]

hoot's all the time talks about goverment spending and thats how he makes his living

Hoot earns what he receives by working. That is quite different from all the parasites who contribute nothing to society and do nothing more strenuous than cashing their handout checks. And, of course, they are fully aware of who will continue to provide the freebies- Bucky Hussein Kardashian.

[Benchwarmer]

It's Bush's and Clinton's fault.

[TheRealThing]

^Probably. But, some of the criteria used to establish a state of disabilty had to come from the mind of a bleeding heart liberal. And that doesn't ease your and my tax burden any.

[TheRealVille]

^Probably. But, some of the criteria used to establish a state of disabilty had to come from the mind of a bleeding heart liberal. And that doesn't ease your and my tax burden any.

Is this fact, or lying speculation? I remember a bunch of construction workers going out under Bush's watch.

[TheRealThing]

[quote=TheRealVille]Is this fact, or lying speculation? I remember a bunch of construction workers going out under Bush's watch.[/QUOTE]


Read it for yourself, the eased regulations didn't go into effect until W had already hit the trail. Like the rest of your bretheren, your best shot is a slur, an unsubstatiated charge and vague assertions. If you watched a lot going out under Bush's watch, it must have been during October, November and December. :eyeroll:
On September 25, 2008, the President signed the Americans with Disabilities Act Amendments Act of 2008 ("ADA Amendments Act" or "Act"). The Act emphasizes that the definition of disability should be construed in favor of broad coverage of individuals to the maximum extent permitted by the terms of the ADA and generally shall not require extensive analysis.

The Act makes important changes to the definition of the term "disability" by rejecting the holdings in several Supreme Court decisions and portions of EEOC's ADA regulations. The effect of these changes is to make it easier for an individual seeking protection under the ADA to establish that he or she has a disability within the meaning of the ADA.
Here's the link, do your own homework.
http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/statutes/adaaa_notice.cfm

[vector]

[quote=TheRealVille]Is this fact, or lying speculation? I remember a bunch of construction workers going out under Bush's watch.[/QUOTE]


Read it for yourself, the eased regulations didn't go into effect until W had already hit the trail. Like the rest of your bretheren, your best shot is a slur, an unsubstatiated charge and vague assertions. If you watched a lot going out under Bush's watch, it must have been during October, November and December. :eyeroll:
On September 25, 2008, the President signed the Americans with Disabilities Act Amendments Act of 2008 ("ADA Amendments Act" or "Act"). The Act emphasizes that the definition of disability should be construed in favor of broad coverage of individuals to the maximum extent permitted by the terms of the ADA and generally shall not require extensive analysis.

The Act makes important changes to the definition of the term "disability" by rejecting the holdings in several Supreme Court decisions and portions of EEOC's ADA regulations. The effect of these changes is to make it easier for an individual seeking protection under the ADA to establish that he or she has a disability within the meaning of the ADA.
Here's the link, do your own homework.
http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/statutes/adaaa_notice.cfm

how you blaming this on the democrats?

[TheRealThing]

[quote=TheRealThing]

how you blaming this on the democrats?

Whew! Attention spans, they're such a subtle yet necessary thing in conversation. Look up three posts from yours and read what I said. Benchwarmer said it was Bush and Clinton's fault. I responded, "probably". Who knows, maybe the blame should be shared equally. I still think some of the qualifiers for disability are lame.

[Hoot Gibson]

The paltry jobs numbers are certainly not Bush's fault and the Obama administration has been aggressively recruiting new food stamp recipients. In Obama's world dependency equals votes. When he says "working class" he means everybody who is not paying taxes.

Bush did not run for president in 2008 and he is not running in 2012 either. The road to recovery for the Obama supporters begins with acknowledging and accepting that fact. Obama has been a failure.

[vector]

The paltry jobs numbers are certainly not Bush's fault and the Obama administration has been aggressively recruiting new food stamp recipients. In Obama's world dependency equals votes. When he says "working class" he means everybody who is not paying taxes.

Bush did not run for president in 2008 and he is not running in 2012 either. The road to recovery for the Obama supporters begins with acknowledging and accepting that fact. Obama has been a failure.

well mr know it all how many jobs did bush2 create in his 8 years and i
know he increased the deficit by 100%

[Hoot Gibson]

well mr know it all how many jobs did bush2 create in his 8 years and i
know he increased the deficit by 100%

Obama is running against Romney. It has been in all the papers. Do you read as poorly as you write, Mr. Clone?

[SKINNYPIG]

I love the way supporters of Obama and this admin focus more on Bush than they do their golden boy. Keep it up guys, it speaks volumes about what you really know but are too nutless to admit.

[MustangSally]

well mr know it all how many jobs did bush2 create in his 8 years and i
know he increased the deficit by 100%

The seasonally adjusted unemployment rate rose from 4.3% in January 2001, peaking at 6.3% in June 2003 and reaching a trough of 4.4% in March 2007. After an economic slowdown, the rate rose again to 6.1% in August 2008 and up to 7.2% in December 2008.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_po...nistration


Data for Jan 2009- Juune 2012

[I]NOVEMBER 2, 2009 – "We will not rest until we are succeeding in generating the jobs that this economy needs"

NOVEMBER 23, 2009 – "I will not rest until business are investing again, and businesses are hiring again"

JANUARY 28, 2010 - "We will not rest until we build an economy that's ready for America's future"

MARCH 5 2010 – "I’m not gonna rest & my administration is not gonna rest in our efforts to help people who are looking to find a job" [/I]
President Obama
Someone must be sleepy



June 30, 2012

8.20%



May 31, 2012

8.20%



April 30, 2012

8.10%



March 31, 2012

8.20%



Feb. 29, 2012

8.30%



Jan. 31, 2012

8.30%



Dec. 31, 2011

8.50%



Nov. 30, 2011

8.70%



Oct. 31, 2011

8.90%



Sept. 30, 2011

9.00%



Aug. 31, 2011

9.10%



July 31, 2011

9.10%



June 30, 2011

9.10%



May 31, 2011

9.00%



April 30, 2011

9.00%



March 31, 2011

8.90%



Feb. 28, 2011

9.00%



Jan. 31, 2011

9.10%



Dec. 31, 2010

9.40%



Nov. 30, 2010

9.80%



Oct. 31, 2010

9.50%



Sept. 30, 2010

9.50%



Aug. 31, 2010

9.60%



July 31, 2010

9.50%



June 30, 2010

9.40%



May 31, 2010

9.60%



April 30, 2010

9.90%



March 31, 2010

9.80%



Feb. 28, 2010

9.80%



Jan. 31, 2010

9.70%



Dec. 31, 2009

9.90%



Nov. 30, 2009

9.90%



Oct. 31, 2009

10.10%



Sept. 30, 2009

9.80%



Aug. 31, 2009

9.70%



July 31, 2009

9.50%



June 30, 2009

9.50%



May 31, 2009

9.40%



April 30, 2009

8.90%



March 31, 2009

8.60%



Feb. 28, 2009

8.20%



Jan. 31, 2009

7.80%

[TheRealThing]

^Don't forget, these rates reflect only those on the rolls at the unemployment offices across the country. Those who exhausted all their benefits have 'graduated' and have stopped looking. The true unemployment rate is 14.9%.

[RunItUpTheGut]

We have got to cut these unemployment extensions.
People who have been begging for extension after extension for year after year could have gotten a job somewhere at some place.

[judgementday]

We have got to cut these unemployment extensions.
People who have been begging for extension after extension for year after year could have gotten a job somewhere at some place.

And this is the problem.......someone looses their job, goes on unemployment, waits until their benefits run out before finding a new job, and then says there isn't any jobs. Maybe not in their line of work but there is jobs out there. If there wasn't, then why do I have two? It may not be ideal work but it is a paycheck until you find another job or maybe doors will open with the new one. It annoys me when people say they cannot find work. Majority of the time it is because they haven't tried hard enough or do not want to.

[Bob Seger]

And this is the problem.......someone looses their job, goes on unemployment, waits until their benefits run out before finding a new job, and then says there isn't any jobs. Maybe not in their line of work but there is jobs out there. If there wasn't, then why do I have two? It may not be ideal work but it is a paycheck until you find another job or maybe doors will open with the new one. It annoys me when people say they cannot find work. Majority of the time it is because they haven't tried hard enough or do not want to.

You are exactly right. You absolutely CANNOT get someone who is drawing unemployment benefits to take a job when you offer them one. For some reason, especially with this sorry early 20's group, they think that just because they might have worked in the mines for two weeks they cannot work for anythingless than $25.00 dollars an hour now. 99% of them are unskilled at everything, cant stick their fingers you know where, and gripe and complain over everything they are asked to do, yet they are now convinced that their sweat is worth a king's ransom for the rest of their lives. Every generation just gets worse and worse and worse.


I get so sick of hearing about the unemployment figures in this country.Everybody in business is desperate to find somebody that will work. The willing are just not out there.

[Ring'Em Up]

If you guys wanna get smart, turn it to BloombergTV. Carville is the hour-long guest on Charlie Rose. Replay at 10pm.

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