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04-08-2013, 07:17 PM
TheRealVille Wrote:I'd vote for him again, before I would vote for a republican, but that isn't an option. Luckily, we have a better option coming up. :Thumbs:Yeah, I know. Nobody believed you when you said that you were leaning toward Romney.
04-08-2013, 07:45 PM
TheRealVille Wrote:I am glad for you, and him. I'm glad that woman made that choice, for your sake and your son. A life is not a life, until it is able to live outside the womb(viable).I guess we view life differently:Sad04:
04-08-2013, 07:52 PM
TheRealVille Wrote:I am glad for you, and him. I'm glad that woman made that choice, for your sake and your son. A life is not a life, until it is able to live outside the womb(viable).by the way an infant outide the womb still needs help. Not many infants can take care of themselves
04-08-2013, 08:29 PM
Hoot Gibson Wrote:Yeah, I know. Nobody believed you when you said that you were leaning toward Romney.Aren't the chances of you voting for a democrat President about the same as me voting for a republican?
04-08-2013, 08:31 PM
nky Wrote:by the way an infant outide the womb still needs help. Not many infants can take care of themselvesBut, one before about 22 weeks can't live, with or without help.
04-08-2013, 08:40 PM
TheRealVille Wrote:Aren't the chances of you voting for a democrat President about the same as me voting for a republican?The chances are zero but I never claimed otherwise.
04-08-2013, 08:46 PM
TheRealVille Wrote:But, one before about 22 weeks can't live, with or without help.yea if they're not disturbed by forceps ripping them out they would survive to birth
04-08-2013, 08:56 PM
nky Wrote:yea if they're not disturbed by forceps ripping them out they would survive to birthWell, a woman's constitutional right, up to 22 weeks, is to get it out of their body if they "choose". Therefore, if they get it out before 22 weeks, it can't live.
04-08-2013, 09:01 PM
TheRealVille Wrote:Well, a woman's constitutional right, up to 22 weeks, is to get it out of their body if they "choose". Therefore, if they get it out before 22 weeks, it can't live.German concentration camps also slaughtered millions of innocent people with the knowledge, approval, and enthusiastic support of their government. Abortion is legalized murder, at least for the time being. There is nothing right about it.
04-08-2013, 09:02 PM
^where's that in the constitution by the way
04-08-2013, 09:17 PM
nky Wrote:^where's that in the constitution by the wayRight to privacy, due process, 14th amendment. It's none of our business what the woman does with her body. Some lawmakers also say 9th amendment.
04-08-2013, 09:32 PM
When Roe v Wade was first upheld by the SCOTUS legal abortions became available to the public regardless of existing state law. According to the court, to qualify an abortion must be tied to one of two strict guidelines, preservation of prenatal life and protecting the health of the mother.
Well, we all know the prenatal health concerns of the court have been totally run over since 1972. Late term abortions are routinely done after the 28th week these days and the percentage of abortions that are legitimate efforts to save the life of the mother is almost nonexistent. The whole idea that a fetus was not viable until the 3rd trimester was the stuff of idiocy by any definition. But, the supreme court tried to make a decision that would settle the matter and we see what happened. 55 million abortions and counting later and now we're throwing live birthed babies into trash containers to die.
The liberal will never be satisfied until and unless hell on earth is at last set loose. "Imagine all the people living for today." We
have that exact situation occurring as we speak, we respectfully call these folks American entitlement recipients.
How about gay rights, where is the line in the sand to be drawn with regard to their demands that they be allowed to get married like every other citizen? Just as in the case of the out of control taxpayer funded abortion on demand programs of this country. Marriage will look like something more readily identifiable with Sodomites than the conventional institution of marriage we are all familiar with at present. How do we know this? "Two gay seniors at George Washington University say they feel alienated because the chaplain at George Washington’s Newman Center rejects homosexuality, and they aren’t going to take it anymore.
The seniors, Damian Legacy and Blake Bergen, have announced a coordinated campaign to rid the campus of the Roman Catholic priest, reports The GW Hatchet, the school’s independent student newspaper."
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/04/studen...z2PvNcWzy3
Folks it sure won't stop with gay marriage, at some point any intolerance against the liberal agenda will be viewed as unacceptable behavior under the law. Once the genie is out of the bottle, there is no going back. Maybe it will come to pass that a group of states will secede from the union in order to resist having the homosexual scourge thrust upon them. Mark my words, just as in the case of Rome. The last virtue of a once great society has always been for lack of a better term, run amok tolerance, or secular humanism. The liberal must be stopped now, while it still possible to defeat him in a national election. 2014 is looking more and more like D-Day.
Well, we all know the prenatal health concerns of the court have been totally run over since 1972. Late term abortions are routinely done after the 28th week these days and the percentage of abortions that are legitimate efforts to save the life of the mother is almost nonexistent. The whole idea that a fetus was not viable until the 3rd trimester was the stuff of idiocy by any definition. But, the supreme court tried to make a decision that would settle the matter and we see what happened. 55 million abortions and counting later and now we're throwing live birthed babies into trash containers to die.
The liberal will never be satisfied until and unless hell on earth is at last set loose. "Imagine all the people living for today." We
have that exact situation occurring as we speak, we respectfully call these folks American entitlement recipients.
How about gay rights, where is the line in the sand to be drawn with regard to their demands that they be allowed to get married like every other citizen? Just as in the case of the out of control taxpayer funded abortion on demand programs of this country. Marriage will look like something more readily identifiable with Sodomites than the conventional institution of marriage we are all familiar with at present. How do we know this? "Two gay seniors at George Washington University say they feel alienated because the chaplain at George Washington’s Newman Center rejects homosexuality, and they aren’t going to take it anymore.
The seniors, Damian Legacy and Blake Bergen, have announced a coordinated campaign to rid the campus of the Roman Catholic priest, reports The GW Hatchet, the school’s independent student newspaper."
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/04/studen...z2PvNcWzy3
Folks it sure won't stop with gay marriage, at some point any intolerance against the liberal agenda will be viewed as unacceptable behavior under the law. Once the genie is out of the bottle, there is no going back. Maybe it will come to pass that a group of states will secede from the union in order to resist having the homosexual scourge thrust upon them. Mark my words, just as in the case of Rome. The last virtue of a once great society has always been for lack of a better term, run amok tolerance, or secular humanism. The liberal must be stopped now, while it still possible to defeat him in a national election. 2014 is looking more and more like D-Day.
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04-08-2013, 09:44 PM
TheRealVille Wrote:Right to privacy, due process, 14th amendment. It's none of our business what the woman does with her body. Some lawmakers also say 9th amendment.
but what about the little innocent child
google images aborted babies
04-08-2013, 09:44 PM
TheRealVille Wrote:Right to privacy, due process, 14th amendment. It's none of our business what the woman does with her body. Some lawmakers also say 9th amendment.It's our business when another life effected. Right to privacy- so you want to protect pedophiles also?
04-08-2013, 09:45 PM
TheRealThing Wrote:When Roe v Wade was first upheld by the SCOTUS legal abortions became available to the public regardless of existing state law. According to the court, to qualify an abortion must be tied to one of two strict guidelines, preservation of prenatal life and protecting the health of the mother.Not after the supreme court made their ruling.
Well, we all know the prenatal health concerns of the court have been totally run over since 1972. Late term abortions are routinely done after the 28th week these days and the percentage of abortions that are legitimate efforts to save the life of the mother is almost nonexistent. The whole idea that a fetus was not viable until the 3rd trimester was the stuff of idiocy by any definition. But, the supreme court tried to make a decision that would settle the matter and we see what happened. 55 million abortions and counting later and now we're throwing live birthed babies into trash containers to die.
The liberal will never be satisfied until and unless hell on earth is at last set loose. "Imagine all the people living for today." We
have that exact situation occurring as we speak, we respectfully call these folks American entitlement recipients.
How about gay rights, where is the line in the sand to be drawn with regard to their demands that they be allowed to get married like every other citizen? Just as in the case of the out of control taxpayer funded abortion on demand programs of this country. Marriage will look like something more readily identifiable with Sodomites than the conventional institution of marriage we are all familiar with at present. How do we know this? "Two gay seniors at George Washington University say they feel alienated because the chaplain at George Washingtonâs Newman Center rejects homosexuality, and they arenât going to take it anymore.
The seniors, Damian Legacy and Blake Bergen, have announced a coordinated campaign to rid the campus of the Roman Catholic priest, reports The GW Hatchet, the schoolâs independent student newspaper."
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/04/studen...z2PvNcWzy3
Folks it sure won't stop with gay marriage, at some point any intolerance against the liberal agenda will be viewed as unacceptable behavior under the law. Once the genie is out of the bottle, there is no going back. Maybe it will come to pass that a group of states will secede from the union in order to resist having the homosexual scourge thrust upon them. Mark my words, just as in the case of Rome. The last virtue of a once great society has always been for lack of a better term, run amok tolerance, or secular humanism. The liberal must be stopped now, while it still possible to defeat him in a national election. 2014 is looking more and more like D-Day.
04-08-2013, 09:48 PM
but I guess for some they would have to value life inoder to defend life
04-08-2013, 09:50 PM
nky Wrote:It's our business when another life effected. Right to privacy- so you want to protect pedophiles also?Twist much? Right to privacy between her and her doctor, about her body. Don't ask me, I'm not a constitutional lawyer, or on the "big court". You ask, like I've got anything to do with it?

04-08-2013, 09:51 PM
WideMiddle03 Wrote:but what about the little innocent childIn the case of you, I strongly approve abortion. They missed one.
google images aborted babies
04-08-2013, 10:01 PM
TheRealVille Wrote:Twist much? Right to privacy between her and her doctor, about her body. Don't ask me, I'm not a constitutional lawyer, or on the "big court". You ask, like I've got anything to do with it?[Image: http://www.searchquotes.com/images/quotemarkleft.png] I don't think there is a good reason for an abortion, but Dr. Jasper made me really realize it was just a racket. He was just doing it for the money. He didn't care about the women. [Image: http://www.searchquotes.com/images/quotemarkright.png]nicker: I was 8 years old when it went down. You might want to ask the conservative leaning court that made the decision.
Norma McCorvey quotes
[Image: http://www.searchquotes.com/images/quotemarkleft.png] I looked at a fetal development chart at the Operation Rescue Office in Dallas. I had a lot of emotions stirring up inside of me. That's when I decided that it was wrong in any stage of pregnancy. [Image: http://www.searchquotes.com/images/quotemarkright.png]
Norma McCorvey quotes
04-08-2013, 10:01 PM
TheRealVille Wrote:In the case of you, I strongly approve abortion. They missed one.
they missed me
but they got you
or you're brain, at least
04-08-2013, 10:02 PM
nky Wrote:[Image: http://www.searchquotes.com/images/quotemarkleft.png] I don't think there is a good reason for an abortion, but Dr. Jasper made me really realize it was just a racket. He was just doing it for the money. He didn't care about the women. [Image: http://www.searchquotes.com/images/quotemarkright.png]Was Norma on the supreme court in 1973?
Norma McCorvey quotes
[Image: http://www.searchquotes.com/images/quotemarkleft.png] I looked at a fetal development chart at the Operation Rescue Office in Dallas. I had a lot of emotions stirring up inside of me. That's when I decided that it was wrong in any stage of pregnancy. [Image: http://www.searchquotes.com/images/quotemarkright.png]
Norma McCorvey quotes
04-08-2013, 10:11 PM
TheRealVille Wrote:Was Norma on the supreme court in 1973?she was there
04-08-2013, 10:15 PM
TheRealVille Wrote:Not after the supreme court made their ruling.
Gee thank you professor Corey. The argument I was making is this, one can never believe the rationale that the left uses in which to clothe their antitraditional demands. What is abortion really all about? Simply put, women want to be sexually active without the responsibility that should go along with that kind of behavior. It's got basically nothing to do with rape, incest and danger to mother. In truth, abortions are much more like going to the bathroom to rid themselves of some bad Chinese than to protect the life of anybody at all. Same thing with the gay marriage deal. Gays are demanding validation of their depraved lifestyle and the rationale being used to again, get the court to rule in their favor is they just want to be like everybody else. And with the same rights. Well guess what? They have those rights under the constitution and they had those rights the day they were born. The truth is they want to engage in sexual behavior that is unnatural by scientific, moral and biological standards. It's another lie just like the abortion argument gone on before.
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04-08-2013, 10:25 PM
nky Wrote:she was thereShe was one of the 7 that ruled favorably?
04-08-2013, 10:29 PM
TheRealThing Wrote:Gee thank you professor Corey. The argument I was making is this, one can never believe the rationale that the left uses in which to clothe their antitraditional demands. What is abortion really all about? Simply put, women want to be sexually active without the responsibility that should go along with that kind of behavior. It's got basically nothing to do with rape, incest and danger to mother. In truth, abortions are much more like going to the bathroom to rid themselves of some bad Chinese than to protect the life of anybody at all. Same thing with the gay marriage deal. Gays are demanding validation of their depraved lifestyle and the rationale being used to again, get the court to rule in their favor is they just want to be like everybody else. And with the same rights. Well guess what? They have those rights under the constitution and they had those rights the day they were born. The truth is they want to engage in sexual behavior that is unnatural by scientific, moral and biological standards. It's another lie just like the abortion argument gone on before.Well maybe it will please you all that Plan B will be available OTC, which is a pill that is basically the same pill that a lot of women take every day to keep from getting pregnant. Which, brings up another point. Isn't "the pill", that most women take, probably even your wife, just another form of abortion, since "life begins at conception"?
04-08-2013, 10:51 PM
FWIW, the liberal bent is the very same tired old scene from the 60's played out generation after generation in an ongoing nightmare of substance abuse, dodging of any personal responsibility and sex with the planet.
The vision of John Lennon is upon us. And, well should he have known of what he spoke. Not only did he talk the talk, he walked the walk. He tripped and dipped and smoked and drank his way into his idea of a world gone freak. The apple has never fallen far from the tree to this day;
"Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us -
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people living for today"
Simple words that completely sum up every last aspiration of the left. A room full of silly faces, a bunch of dope smoking goofs just dreaming up reality according to their own personal altered state. Ironically, like the smoke swirling around their heads, the only thing produced by this saddest and longest running play of all time, they spend all their time making plans and schemes, all of which are destined to dissipate in the same manner as the smoke that produced them. What a waste, and what a national shame. I saw this nation rise into greatness and it seems likely I'll see her slide into madness. Exactly like Rome.
The vision of John Lennon is upon us. And, well should he have known of what he spoke. Not only did he talk the talk, he walked the walk. He tripped and dipped and smoked and drank his way into his idea of a world gone freak. The apple has never fallen far from the tree to this day;
"Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us -
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people living for today"
Simple words that completely sum up every last aspiration of the left. A room full of silly faces, a bunch of dope smoking goofs just dreaming up reality according to their own personal altered state. Ironically, like the smoke swirling around their heads, the only thing produced by this saddest and longest running play of all time, they spend all their time making plans and schemes, all of which are destined to dissipate in the same manner as the smoke that produced them. What a waste, and what a national shame. I saw this nation rise into greatness and it seems likely I'll see her slide into madness. Exactly like Rome.
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04-08-2013, 10:56 PM
TheRealVille Wrote:Well maybe it will please you all that Plan B will be available OTC, which is a pill that is basically the same pill that a lot of women take every day to keep from getting pregnant. Which, brings up another point. Isn't "the pill", that most women take, probably even your wife, just another form of abortion, since "life begins at conception"?
Nope, you feeling the need to 'pivot' again? :igiveup:
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04-08-2013, 11:35 PM
TheRealThing Wrote:Nope, you feeling the need to 'pivot' again? :igiveup:No need for me to pivot, I have stated law the whole time, regarding abortion. Why would I pivot? Everything I have stated about abortion, as law goes, has been spot on. What makes the pill any better in your eyes? Is the pill one of your "pet sins"? It's ok, as long as your wife has used it? You don't consider that another form of abortion?
04-09-2013, 12:08 AM
TheRealVille Wrote:No need for me to pivot, I have stated law the whole time, regarding abortion. Why would I pivot? Everything I have stated about abortion, as law goes, has been spot on. What makes the pill any better in your eyes? Is the pill one of your "pet sins"? It's ok, as long as your wife has used it? You don't consider that another form of abortion?
I've taught you most of what you know, the stuff that actually matters anyway, so why stop now? "It's pretty common for people (like you) to be confused about how birth control pills work. Here’s what it boils down to: birth control pills are made of hormones. Hormones are chemicals made in our bodies. They control how different parts of our bodies work.
Some birth control pills contain two hormones — estrogen and progestin. These are called combination pills. Some are progestin-only pills. Most women on the pill take combination pills.
The hormones in the pill work by
(1) - Keeping eggs from leaving the ovaries. Pregnancy cannot happen if there is no egg to join with sperm.
(2) - Making cervical mucus thicker. This keeps sperm from getting to the eggs."
I know it's tough for you, trying to maintain the image of your imagination must cause you a fair amount of distress.
Class dismissed, again.
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