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09-11-2013, 02:34 PM
Musketeers come to Ram Stadium Friday to face the 2-1 Rams. Raceland has owned this series the past few years. Who wins and why?
09-11-2013, 02:58 PM
Raceland will win with ease, the score will probay be similar to the Boyd County game. I predict that Raceland will come out flat, as they always do against a lesser opponent. Greenup is coming off their first win in two years, so I think they will be amped up.
09-11-2013, 07:32 PM
Raceland will win handily, but if Greenup can hang close for an extended period it will be huge for their confidence. I'm usually not one for moral victories but if Greenup keeps it within 3 TDs it could be big for them going forward.
09-11-2013, 09:59 PM
Raceland by a bunch. They are way to good for Greenup.
09-12-2013, 09:44 AM
Would like to see Raceland start to come out and put these teams away early. That looked to be the case last week, but after the first quick score, the first auarter ended and Raceland only held a 7-0 lead. The offense needs to wake up. Play calling has gotten alotbetter as the year has progressed, but, the players seem flat offensively until they play a tough opponent. Defensively we look very good. And the kicking game has improved vastly. The players just need to lear to go out and play THEIR brand of football consistantly, on the offensive side of the ball.
09-12-2013, 09:46 AM
Greenup will be amped up coming off that first win in 20+ attempts. Raceland is by far the better team, but if they come out flat, Greenup could keep things close for the first half. Raceland has another big 3rd quarter though and I dont think Greenups defense is as good as Boyd's. But i think their offense is better.
Raceland 56
Greenup 18
Raceland 56
Greenup 18
09-12-2013, 11:31 AM
Greenup has a very good run defense but their pass defense is lacking. Raceland 49-22, look for Messer to have a big game.
09-12-2013, 06:29 PM
RamCat you are always so positive and supportive of the Rams players and coaches. Thank you so much for your support!
09-12-2013, 06:54 PM
What did I say that wasn't true? How did they start the game against East and Boyd? Flat. I didn't say anything slandering the coaches or players, I simply speak the truth. This coaching staff, particularly Maynard and Salmons, will get my respect when they prove they can win a big game.
09-12-2013, 07:20 PM
The Rams biggest problem on offense? No deep ball threat. Greenup and everyone else can put 10 or 11 in the box. 90 % of the passes are with in 10 yards. Middle screen. Short slants. Pass to the flat. If the offense counld not only spread it out. But also throw a deep route. That would spread the defense. And the shot screens and running game would really open up. Right now even though the Rams spread it across the field. The defense plays up. Within two yards. With the deep threat. The wideouts would have a five to seven yard cushion. The defense keeps putting the ball back in the offense hands. Strange the the defensive line penetrates the the line. But the offensive line can't open lanes. But I think Greenup will go down to the Rams once again. Rams by 35. Mainly because the defense shuts down the offense of Greenup. Keeping the ball on the Rams side of the field.
09-12-2013, 10:28 PM
It wouldnt take much. A 15-18 yd corner, skinny post, flag rt would keep teams from stacking. Vance had a majority of his catches, tds, yds running the skinny post last year.
09-13-2013, 02:14 AM
Greenup's pass defense is not that good if Russell would have completed some of theirs it could have been a bigger score but that is why they play the game....Raceland should have a running clock in this game.Get it done in the first 2 qt's and come out in the 3rd qt and work on a few things. Then play everyone in the 4th qt....
Greenup-13
Raceland-52
Greenup-13
Raceland-52
09-13-2013, 06:14 AM
Raceland by 30
09-13-2013, 06:44 AM
Ramcat77 Wrote:What did I say that wasn't true? How did they start the game against East and Boyd? Flat. I didn't say anything slandering the coaches or players, I simply speak the truth. This coaching staff, particularly Maynard and Salmons, will get my respect when they prove they can win a big game.
I will say that at this point the defense is ahead of the offense, but just because you don't run somebody off the field in the first quarter doesn't mean you're always flat.
09-13-2013, 07:40 AM
Raceland big against another cupcake opponent. IMO Raceland should never schedule teams like Boyd, Greenup, or East for non-district games. No disrespect to those schools but how does playing a team you will probably crush prepare you for tough opponents like Fairview and when you get in the playoffs? 7 and 8 win regular seasons are good and all but how can you feel proud of yourself when you are only beating teams who have losing records? As Ramcat said, start beating high quality teams and then Raceland will gain respect not only from me but the rest of the state also.
09-13-2013, 08:31 AM
Orange Blaze Wrote:Raceland big against another cupcake opponent. IMO Raceland should never schedule teams like Boyd, Greenup, or East for non-district games. No disrespect to those schools but how does playing a team you will probably crush prepare you for tough opponents like Fairview and when you get in the playoffs? 7 and 8 win regular seasons are good and all but how can you feel proud of yourself when you are only beating teams who have losing records? As Ramcat said, start beating high quality teams and then Raceland will gain respect not only from me but the rest of the state also.
Raceland needs to keep the game with Greenup because that's where they get there players from.
09-13-2013, 08:55 AM
Orange Blaze Wrote:Raceland big against another cupcake opponent. IMO Raceland should never schedule teams like Boyd, Greenup, or East for non-district games. No disrespect to those schools but how does playing a team you will probably crush prepare you for tough opponents like Fairview and when you get in the playoffs? 7 and 8 win regular seasons are good and all but how can you feel proud of yourself when you are only beating teams who have losing records? As Ramcat said, start beating high quality teams and then Raceland will gain respect not only from me but the rest of the state also.
Very much agreed. I think both Fairview and Raceland need to begin to schedule a mountain team, a nky team, and a lexington team. Would love to see them both have reg season matchups with some 6A schools like Ryle, Scott(city), Ballard, idk if taking on Trinity or Highlands whould do much good, But definitely some mid pack 6A schools. Belfry, NCC, Lex Christian, or Cov/Lex Cath. If both of these schools want to take the next step they need to beef up 3 games on the schedule. I hate scheduling wins. Schedule games and let the outcome play itself out.
09-13-2013, 08:57 AM
Orange Blaze Wrote:Raceland big against another cupcake opponent. IMO Raceland should never schedule teams like Boyd, Greenup, or East for non-district games. No disrespect to those schools but how does playing a team you will probably crush prepare you for tough opponents like Fairview and when you get in the playoffs? 7 and 8 win regular seasons are good and all but how can you feel proud of yourself when you are only beating teams who have losing records? As Ramcat said, start beating high quality teams and then Raceland will gain respect not only from me but the rest of the state also.
How do you explain then Fairview going to the state championship game last year. You take all the teams wins combined last year for the eagles opponents. Taking away the Rams. You probably don't have 6 or 7 wins. That's 9 other teams. They still made it to the final game. Same year before. They won the regional playing a very weak schedule. They have made merethink about this tough schedule. Before you can make it deep into the playoffs.
09-13-2013, 09:09 AM
Sports dad Wrote:Raceland needs to keep the game with Greenup because that's where they get there players from.
Yes Raceland has transfer students on their team but so do many other high school teams that is just how it is. Not to be disrespectful to Greenup but can you really blame a kid for not wanting to play at their home district school that doesn't win many games when they can transfer and play for a school a few miles down the road that wins games? My complaint is Raceland wins against inferior compitition in the regular season and gets smashed in the playoffs. So in that respect Raceland is not a solid program. Yes I like to see Raceland win but I would like to see them play against teams that challenge them and Greenup just doesn't provide a challenge. Before anyone tells me I am not supportive of the program I will just let these playoff numbers talk.
YearPlayoff Games, W-13, L-30
1975Ludlow 27, Raceland 0
1977Bellevue 22, Raceland 6
1979Bellevue 33, Raceland 0
1980Bellevue 36, Raceland 6
1982Beechwood 21, Raceland 0
1984Beechwood 12, Raceland 0
1986Beechwood 37, Raceland 12
1987Raceland 30, Ludlow 0
1987Beechwood 35, Raceland 14
1988Raceland 27, Carroll Co. 7
1988Beechwood 34, Raceland 14
1990Bellevue 10, Raceland 0
1991Newport Cath. 37, Raceland 8
1992Bellevue 24, Raceland 6
1993Lloyd Memorial 42, Raceland 8
1994Lloyd Mem. 45, Raceland 16
1995Dayton 22, Raceland 12
1996Newport Cath. 49, Raceland 8
1997Raceland 32, Newport Cath.21
1997Bath Co. 39, Raceland 8
1998Bellevue 27, Raceland 26
1999Beechwood 44, Raceland 12
2001Newport Cath. 56, Raceland 7
2002Raceland 34, Dayton 15
2002Newport Cath. 47, Raceland 7
2003Beechwood 49, Raceland 15
2004Newport Cath 56, Raceland 13
2005Bellevue 49, Raceland 23
2006Raceland 43, Paris 26
2006Raceland 20, Lex. Christian 13
2006Newport Cath 46, Raceland 27
2007Raceland 13, Fairview 0
2007Lex. Christian 34, Raceland 32
2008Raceland 61, Clinton Co. 12
2008Raceland 40, Fairview 20
2008Lex. Christian 27, Raceland 20
2009Raceland 19, Lynn Camp 13
2009Raceland 23, Campbellsville 20
2009Lex. Christian 62, Raceland 12
2010Raceland 40, Campbellsville 28
2010Lex. Christian 48, Raceland 8
2011Raceland 77, South Floyd 28
2011Pikeville 54, Raceland 21
09-13-2013, 09:19 AM
Clearly These stats show that Raceland wouldn't have had their recent playoff success if they still played in the NKY region so I don't understand how much of our fan base considers us to be a solid program that deserves to be in conversations about winning championships.
Raceland plays Ashland, Ironton, Lawrence, and Colegrove in non district games.. Hardly cupcakes. Most of you guys are hilarious with how little you actually know about the game of football. If you were at the Boyd game last week you would have seen the db's from Boyd were giving Racelands WRs 8-10 yard cushion every play, respecting the deep ball. Their safeties were at 12-15 yards deep most of the night. Elkins hits Messer on a 18 yard post first play of the game for 6. You guys that complain about Maynard and Salmons are idiots.. Those two are without a doubt two of the best coaches in this area. What coach Maynard does as far as scouting is outstanding. Ask any of his players, they are ALWAYS prepared to the highest level. My goodness just think of how things would be if some of you jokers were in the coaching box on Friday... Wow. Good luck to the Rams and Muskies! Gonna be a great night for some high school football! Go Rams!
09-13-2013, 11:24 AM
Raceland by as many as they want. Just to much for Greenup Co.
09-13-2013, 11:56 AM
Orange Blaze Wrote:Raceland big against another cupcake opponent. IMO Raceland should never schedule teams like Boyd, Greenup, or East for non-district games. No disrespect to those schools but how does playing a team you will probably crush prepare you for tough opponents like Fairview and when you get in the playoffs? 7 and 8 win regular seasons are good and all but how can you feel proud of yourself when you are only beating teams who have losing records? As Ramcat said, start beating high quality teams and then Raceland will gain respect not only from me but the rest of the state also.
Sports dad Wrote:Raceland needs to keep the game with Greenup because that's where they get there players from.
Kids transfer in from Greenup Co, Russell, Boyd Co. Even had a couple from over seas. Same thing happens to Greenup Co, Ashland ,Russell, Fairview ect. Every school has transfers every year. Most schools don't get 5 or 6 transfers from another state to play ball each year. But still every school has transfers. By the way. A few years back I pulled my kids out of the GC district.. Just for education purposes!
09-13-2013, 12:40 PM
NoPicks Wrote:Raceland plays Ashland, Ironton, Lawrence, and Colegrove in non district games.. Hardly cupcakes. Most of you guys are hilarious with how little you actually know about the game of football. If you were at the Boyd game last week you would have seen the db's from Boyd were giving Racelands WRs 8-10 yard cushion every play, respecting the deep ball. Their safeties were at 12-15 yards deep most of the night. Elkins hits Messer on a 18 yard post first play of the game for 6. You guys that complain about Maynard and Salmons are idiots.. Those two are without a doubt two of the best coaches in this area. What coach Maynard does as far as scouting is outstanding. Ask any of his players, they are ALWAYS prepared to the highest level. My goodness just think of how things would be if some of you jokers were in the coaching box on Friday... Wow. Good luck to the Rams and Muskies! Gonna be a great night for some high school football! Go Rams!
The teams you mention are indeed tough opponents but when you add East, Boyd, Nicholas, Greenup, and Paintsville the schedule starts to look pretty soft. Nicholas and Paintsville are district games so I get it that Raceland has to play them. But do they really need to play Boyd , East, and Greenup? How does playing a schedule where half of the teams you play will have a losing records help in terms of playoffs? I disagree with Raceland having the best coaching staff in the area because Fairview does. Don't believe me? Look at the numbers. McPeek's staff has district titles Maynard's doesn't. McPeek's has a regional title, Maynard's doesn't. McPeek's has a championship appearance, Maynard's doesn't. I am not saying Maynard doesnt prepare his players but don't tell me that Raceland has the best coaching staff in the area when there is not any objective evidence to support your claims.
09-13-2013, 01:17 PM
fourth and goal Wrote:How do you explain then Fairview going to the state championship game last year. You take all the teams wins combined last year for the eagles opponents. Taking away the Rams. You probably don't have 6 or 7 wins. That's 9 other teams. They still made it to the final game. Same year before. They won the regional playing a very weak schedule. They have made merethink about this tough schedule. Before you can make it deep into the playoffs.
Raceland and Fairview are fortunate to be in a weak region that offers them a relatively easy playoff run. If they were in the old NKY region with Beechwood, NCC, Cov Holy Cross, Bellvue, Dayton, And Ludlow then I can almost guarantee that neither team would ever make it past the second round and some years they would be lucky to make it past the first round.
09-13-2013, 02:27 PM
i agree ,they wouldn't stand a chance.
09-13-2013, 03:36 PM
Hey Orange Blaze do me a favor post the win lose records of the teams the rams have beaten since Maynard has taken over.I don't think that people will like the results
09-13-2013, 04:25 PM
It is hard to believe how divided the fan base at Raceland is.
09-13-2013, 04:31 PM
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09-13-2013, 04:37 PM
Orange Blaze Wrote:Raceland and Fairview are fortunate to be in a weak region that offers them a relatively easy playoff run. If they were in the old NKY region with Beechwood, NCC, Cov Holy Cross, Bellvue, Dayton, And Ludlow then I can almost guarantee that neither team would ever make it past the second round and some years they would be lucky to make it past the first round.
But for these weak eastern 1A schools to make it to the quarter finals and finals. Don't they eventually have to play the best of those regions. In past few years Pikeville, Fairview and Hazard all won or played in the final game. Before that LCA was in our district/ Region.They also won the state. They had to play Nicholas, Paintsville and a few other cupcakes like Paris. Becaure they are district games. You still have to play the best of the best to get to the finals. Fairview, Pikeville, LCA have all proved in resent years you can play a pretty easy schedule and still compete with the Mayfields, Beachwoods and others when the time comes. Does Raceland schedule have to have ten top ten teams on it to make people happy. They have Ironton, Ashland, Lawrence Co and a few more very tough games. Tell Fairview they have to toughen up that schedule before they can make it to the final. Oh wait they did. Tell Pikeville they can't win because of the district and schedule you play. O wait they did. Just a little bit silly thinking!!! A couple years ago I followed Mayfield. They won the state. Their district had three teams. The other two teams were a combined 1-20. They played two teams with a winning record. Still one the state. Eight times I believe. They sent in that Northern Ky region.
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