[Wildcat18]

Actually? Yea I do. First of all I don't think they would have had all the injuries they did playing a 1A schedule. So they would have been a much better team. I don't think many 1A teams could slow down Whitley. Just my opinion take it for what it is worth.

Williamsburg has a very good team, especially for 1A. They are having a special run of kids that most likely they will not see again. Some of that is helped by the struggles of surronding schools such as Corbin and Whitley. I don't think that will last forever. That is a cycle you see at the smaller schools especially in the rual parts of the state. Mayfield and a few others of course are the exceptions.

Injuries happen against all competition. Those are freak accidents. You may get "hurt" against tougher competition, that's possible. There's a difference in being a bit bruised up and injured. If Williamsburg had played Whitley's schedule last season, I would have bet the house that they would have won more than 1 game.

[geauxtigers75]

Well I will say this. Winning at Perry Central and South Laurel is almost nearly impossible. Those are basketball schools son. If Chappell would of been coaching up at Hazard, would he won? Most definately. Would he of won at Louisville Trinity. For sure. It aint the X's and O's, its the Jimmy's and Joe's. At Perry and South, there aint many Jimmy's and Joe's running around and the ones that do, play basketball. I must say Haddix is doing his best at Perry Central trying to change that though and he has been successful.

To the first bold, it's easy to win with half the county's talent playing 1A instead of 3A(at that time) football, but I digress. Second bolded, I think the kids are there at both schools, the interest in football, however, is not. If Perry could keep their middle school teams together all the way through (2011 team was the closest to accomplishing this) they could compete every year.

[footballfever]

Injuries happen against all competition. Those are freak accidents. You may get "hurt" against tougher competition, that's possible. There's a difference in being a bit bruised up and injured. If Williamsburg had played Whitley's schedule last season, I would have bet the house that they would have won more than 1 game.

They probably would have but N. Laurel was ranked about 20th out of 40 5A football teams . They were 3rd in their district and lost in 1st round of playoffs.

[Wildcat18]

They probably would have but N. Laurel was ranked about 20th out of 40 5A football teams . They were 3rd in their district and lost in 1st round of playoffs.

Lost to Perry County Central by 13, which was the same team who annihilated Whitley County by 45 points earlier in the year. North Laurel underachieved. They should have went a game or two deeper in the playoffs and would have given Pulaski a much better game than PCC did.

[footballfever]

Lost to Perry County Central by 13, which was the same team who annihilated Whitley County by 45 points earlier in the year. North Laurel underachieved. They should have went a game or two deeper in the playoffs and would have given Pulaski a much better game than PCC did.

I agree Wburg would have won more that 1 game in Whitley schedule.
You can go through a 100 scenarios if you want. Whitley beat Letcher which beat Perry which beat North which beat Wburg.
Thing that killed Whitley in Perry game was Ysidro found out Thusday before game his foot broken and out for year. Mills was back from surgery but had only practice 4 days with no contact so he played no D or special teams and also only carry 4 times.
Again, Injuries are injuries no excuses but underachieving is no excuse either.

[Wildcat18]

I agree Wburg would have won more that 1 game in Whitley schedule.
You can go through a 100 scenarios if you want. Whitley beat Letcher which beat Perry which beat North which beat Wburg.
Thing that killed Whitley in Perry game was Ysidro found out Thusday before game his foot broken and out for year. Mills was back from surgery but had only practice 4 days with no contact so he played no D or special teams and also only carry 4 times.
Again, Injuries are injuries no excuses but underachieving is no excuse either.

Whitley was 0-5 going into PCC. That was not a make or break game. If injuries were the case, the previous coach should have never been fired. I think it's safe to say that WC is in a mess and by the looks of the hire, the administration has no clue as to how to run a successful football program. I have no ties to WC at all, so I'm not a WC fan or a hater. Just an outside observation I've picked up during the very long, grueling, and somewhat humorous fiasco we called the hiring process at WC. It went from a great hire that backfired in Hilton, to a good hire that backfired in Lucas, to a guy that has never won anywhere he's been. It's like they were embarrassed by Bill Gates and Donald Trump, then out of nowhere really, they randomly picked the homeless guy living in the cardboard box on the street corner. It really has been a plot to a great movie. I'm pulling for the guy, I hope he succeeds. However, I hope the administration gives him what he needs to get it done, but the odds are against it in my opinion.

[ol' ballcoach]

Hmmm...To those who swore Dudley was going to be the next coach I hate to say I told you so...but...Now for the whole situation at Whitley County...There has to be an entire culture change with this program, from the feeders through the middle school. This coach will only be successful if he is allowed total control of ALL football operations at the county. If the coaches on each level don't buy into what he is trying to do, then there will continue to be more of the same and 5-5 will be considered a great year unfortunately. Will assistant coaches still have to leave practice to take up money for elementary games at the gate? That was one of the craziest things I had ever seen...Just my humble opinion. As far as the comparisons between Whitley and Williamsburg...that is utter silliness. Williamsburg has changed their culture since Jerry Herron was hired. They play in a 1A district, and play up against most schools out of district. They do not have "elite" athletes (Although next season they do have a potential D1 in Chris Helton). What they do have is a program that will continue to breed some level of success. Having been associated with a program in another state that won 5 straight state championships (in a much more populous state with much better football) that started with the HS coaching staff "coaching" the feeder programs on what the HS did, I got to see the results first hand of the fruits of all entities "buying" in to the vision of the HS coach. If you look at traditionally strong programs in this state as well as in others you will see similar situations. The program at Whitley appears very disjointed at this point, and for the realist, I think patience is in order. If this gentleman can get all areas to buy in then it may be only a 3 to 4 year "fix". If not...then more of the same..just my humble opinion..I wish him the best..he has a tough challenge ahead.

[pjdoug]

So you think Williamsburg has elite athletes? I will sell you some beach front property in Whitley co. Now Mayfield has some pretty good athletes. Did you see that game? Williamsburg had a good QB and 2 nice recievers.

Big difference between 1A and 5A. :flame:

I know Williamsburg has a couple elite athletes and one of them didn't play against Mayfield.Yes I saw the game.Mayfield is the superior "team".

[64SUR]

So you think Williamsburg has elite athletes? I will sell you some beach front property in Whitley co. Now Mayfield has some pretty good athletes. Did you see that game? Williamsburg had a good QB and 2 nice recievers.

Big difference between 1A and 5A. :flame:

We need another game William Muney...I will buy some beach front property if Whitley county would play Williamsburg this year 2014 an beat us.But I'm afraid Whitley will not call.We had more player than just a good QB an 2 nice receiver. :Cheerlead

[pjdoug]

Hmmm...To those who swore Dudley was going to be the next coach I hate to say I told you so...but...Now for the whole situation at Whitley County...There has to be an entire culture change with this program, from the feeders through the middle school. This coach will only be successful if he is allowed total control of ALL football operations at the county. If the coaches on each level don't buy into what he is trying to do, then there will continue to be more of the same and 5-5 will be considered a great year unfortunately. Will assistant coaches still have to leave practice to take up money for elementary games at the gate? That was one of the craziest things I had ever seen...Just my humble opinion. As far as the comparisons between Whitley and Williamsburg...that is utter silliness. Williamsburg has changed their culture since Jerry Herron was hired. They play in a 1A district, and play up against most schools out of district. They do not have "elite" athletes (Although next season they do have a potential D1 in Chris Helton). What they do have is a program that will continue to breed some level of success. Having been associated with a program in another state that won 5 straight state championships (in a much more populous state with much better football) that started with the HS coaching staff "coaching" the feeder programs on what the HS did, I got to see the results first hand of the fruits of all entities "buying" in to the vision of the HS coach. If you look at traditionally strong programs in this state as well as in others you will see similar situations. The program at Whitley appears very disjointed at this point, and for the realist, I think patience is in order. If this gentleman can get all areas to buy in then it may be only a 3 to 4 year "fix". If not...then more of the same..just my humble opinion..I wish him the best..he has a tough challenge ahead.

I agree with that. a head coach should have total contol without others trying to influence him.

[ballboy]

I heard Perry may move back up to 5A instead of playing 4A

[ballboy]

Needs to but out Perry also after last years shlacking

[pjdoug]

Needs to but out Perry also after last years shlacking

in that case they should have bought out the Whitley game years ago? I remember a few lopsided scores.

[64SUR]

Needs to but out Perry also after last years shlacking

Hey ballboy shlacking history

2012 Whitley co 47 perry central 28
2011 Whitley co 40 perry central 41
2010 Whitley co 39 perry central 28
2009 Whitley co 63 perry central 18
2008 whitely co 48 perry central 07
2007 whitely co 48 perry central 56

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

[bear claw]

Has Coach been able to put a staff together? A great staff is just as important as the head coach. If you don't believe me just ask any head coach. Except those head coaches that want ALL the attention and glory.

[pjdoug]

Hey ballboy shlacking history

2012 Whitley co 47 perry central 28
2011 Whitley co 40 perry central 41
2010 Whitley co 39 perry central 28
2009 Whitley co 63 perry central 18
2008 whitely co 48 perry central 07
2007 whitely co 48 perry central 56

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

:Thumbs:

[pjdoug]

Hey ballboy shlacking history

2012 Whitley co 47 perry central 28
2011 Whitley co 40 perry central 41
2010 Whitley co 39 perry central 28
2009 Whitley co 63 perry central 18
2008 whitely co 48 perry central 07
2007 whitely co 48 perry central 56

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Whitley nicker:

[pjdoug]

Has Coach been able to put a staff together? A great staff is just as important as the head coach. If you don't believe me just ask any head coach. Except those head coaches that want ALL the attention and glory.

I was wondering the same thing

[insideinfo]

Are they going to let him bring any of his own people in?

[FormerJacket72]

Yep they're letting him bring hilton and Lucas in. Should be a stellar staff.

[RunItUpTheGut]

Hey ballboy shlacking history

2012 Whitley co 47 perry central 28
2011 Whitley co 40 perry central 41
2010 Whitley co 39 perry central 28
2009 Whitley co 63 perry central 18
2008 whitely co 48 perry central 07
2007 whitely co 48 perry central 56

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Might be the best post ive ever seen you make.

Funny thing is, the two of those 3 wins, including this year, Whitley had a combined 3 wins.
2011 was different, but it was also a down year for Whitley and probably PCCS best team I ever remembers. AND it was a 1 point game.
Also, you forgot 2003 and 2004. Both Whitley wins.

[64SUR]

Might be the best post ive ever seen you make.

Funny thing is, the two of those 3 wins, including this year, Whitley had a combined 3 wins.
2011 was different, but it was also a down year for Whitley and probably PCCS best team I ever remembers. AND it was a 1 point game.
Also, you forgot 2003 and 2004. Both Whitley wins.

IDK what happen to me GUT....Getting old I guess....Go Williamsburg. nicker:

[geauxtigers75]

Needs to but out Perry also after last years shlacking

eriously:
Man, you need to learn a bit more history about our district opponents, or 64SUR will continue to make you look like a fool.

Hey ballboy shlacking history

2012 Whitley co 47 perry central 28
2011 Whitley co 40 perry central 41
2010 Whitley co 39 perry central 28
2009 Whitley co 63 perry central 18
2008 whitely co 48 perry central 07
2007 whitely co 48 perry central 56

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

2003 Whitley 28 Perry 21
2004 Whitley 41 Perry 35 2OT

Some good games and blowouts in the series.

[ballboy]

I have to have a little fun we dont win by that many normally here at Perry Central. With the new guy Chappell I hope for yourall sake it dont become common, because its no fun loseing. I was just kidding. But I did say Chappell would be your all man 3 and done my prediction.

[ballboy]

I know the history I just got to have fun a I know we have not shalacked anyone. except in basketball. I did figure they would have went in a different direction on the coach though.

[64SUR]

I know the history I just got to have fun a I know we have not shalacked anyone. except in basketball. I did figure they would have went in a different direction on the coach though.

I will be at the perry central game tonight..I want to see if perry can shalacked jackson county ballboy hh:

[pjdoug]

I will be at the perry central game tonight..I want to see if perry can shalacked jackson county ballboy hh:

define shalacked please nicker:

[ballboy]

15+ tonight SUR 64 senior night Johnson 30+ Beverly 20+ Shalacked means taken behind the outhouse.

[walterwhite]

If the administration has not created a complete cluster, Chappell will do a great job. The talent is there, the fans and administration need to get behind him and forget about the guys that DIDN'T want the job.

[The_Rock]

They just need to let him coach and run the ENTIRE FOOTBALL PROGRAM.