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Next Coach at Pikeville High School
#31
I believe David Hensley would stick around for a long time in Pikeville. He is an Eastern Kentucky boy. Pikeville is a nice town and they have plenty of places for David to workout. Big Grin He'll also be a nice pickup for the Night Storm softball team.
#32
warmachine Wrote:I believe David Hensley would stick around for a long time in Pikeville. He is an Eastern Kentucky boy. Pikeville is a nice town and they have plenty of places for David to workout. Big Grin He'll also be a nice pickup for the Night Storm softball team.

What does softball have to do with this thread? He may be from EKY but his home is like 1 1/2 to 2 hours away so that makes no sense either.
#33
If Copley stays in coaching he will get slapped in the face a lot with the coaching business. If I was Copley I would have recognized that the administration was not going to hire me when they opening the job up for interviews.
#34
State Champs Wrote:If Copley stays in coaching he will get slapped in the face a lot with the coaching business. If I was Copley I would have recognized that the administration was not going to hire me when they opening the job up for interviews.

Nobody said they weren't going to hire Copley. What I stated was what I had heard.
#35
Nice picture of Hensley and the family. Is that an Abercrombie necklace he's wearing? That's a kind of funny thing for a Head football coach to be wearing.

Back to the more intense conversation though. If the AD wants the PE job at the High School where Copley is, and has said so previously, then he should have never been placed on the hiring committee. Also, if he is the one holding the hiring up because he wants to reopen the position for someone to apply that would be more beneficial to him, then shame on him.
#36
gymrat Wrote:Nice picture of Hensley and the family. Is that an Abercrombie necklace he's wearing? That's a kind of funny thing for a Head football coach to be wearing.

Back to the more intense conversation though. If the AD wants the PE job at the High School where Copley is, and has said so previously, then he should have never been placed on the hiring committee. Also, if he is the one holding the hiring up because he wants to reopen the position for someone to apply that would be more beneficial to him, then shame on him.

Coach Garris would never do anything like that. The principal is the one that is responsible for the hiring when it all comes down to it. The AD cannot reopen the job.
#37
HazzBeen Wrote:Coach Garris would never do anything like that. The principal is the one that is responsible for the hiring when it all comes down to it. The AD cannot reopen the job.

Then what purpose does the committee serve. I would think the Principal would listen to the committee members. I know the AD can't reopen the job on his own, but he's on the hiring committee.
#38
Well the whole commitee would have to agree to it. He couldn't make that decision on his own.
#39
master the universe Wrote:Nobody said they weren't going to hire Copley. What I stated was what I had heard.

I would think, if they are going to open the job back up, that the administration was not interested in hiring neither Hensley or Copley.
#40
HazzBeen Wrote:The main goal of the community should be to get a coach who is going to prepare these kids for life and turn them into men. Jackson didn't win any state titles at Pikeville but I wonder how many kids he impacted in a positive way during his 3 years. I could say the same thing for McNamee and Chapman. If you do things the right way long enough, the state titles will come. Phillip Haywood is the best example I can think of. What if they would have got rid of him after 4 years of not winning a state title? Don't get me wrong state title's are great, but is this all we want out of coaches?
Excellent Post!!! :notworthy

Elwayfan Wrote:I don't think the committee would do that, with it being this close to spring ball.
Would Copley totally give up on the kids and not lead them through Spring Practice if he isn't hired by the time it starts? I sounds like a man (I don't know him) who is committed to these young men and will stick with them at least through the spring. If he isn't hired and someone outside the region is, who is going to run practices anyway? It will be hard for a new coach to travel to Pikeville considering he will still probably be under contract with another school for the remainder of the semester.

On another note, I am sure that Garris would love to be at the high school, but knowing the man, I don't think that he would do anything like has been mentioned here to hurt the kids or the Pikeville Football Program. He has too much respect and Love for both. He has taught almost all of the players in elementary school and when you have him you usually make a good connection with the man that last. I couldn't see him turning his back on these kids just so he could move less then 2 miles down the road.
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#41
State Champs Wrote:Spring football practice will not make or break the Pikeville Football program.

I agree, spring practice was always a waste of time for us (linemen).

I got more out of snapping balls at receiving camps than I did from spring practice.

But, I think, new coach or not, someone will have some form of spring practice.
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#42
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#43
Knowing Copley, I would say he will continue to do things the right way and as he sees fit. He has been assuming the roll of head coach for the past several months and I couldn't see him doing anything different from what he's been doing so far.

As for spring practice, I think it's a great time to get in alot of fundamentals because you are not having to prepare for games. I believe it's an integral part of the success of great teams. Someone said they seen Boyle County on their field last week, practicing. For teams that pay close attention to detail, I believe it is very important to have Spring Practice. Naturally, the more you practice something, the better you will become.

Now the hiring committee may indeed reopen the position. If they feel the need to do that, then I will respect their decision. I care more about the Pikeville Football Program and it's kids than anything or anyone else involved.
#44
Elwayfan Wrote:I believe it's an integral part of the success of great teams. Someone said they seen Boyle County on their field last week, practicing. For teams that pay close attention to detail, I believe it is very important to have Spring Practice. Naturally, the more you practice something, the better you will become.
IMO, Boyle County and Danville are both great programs.
From what I have heard Boyle Co has spring practice, Danville does not.

Spring practice does not make a great team.
#45
I wanted to add, after all the time and sacrifice these kids have made for football and their school, I hope they are provided with every opporunity to become as successful as they can be. I feel that some of the focus has been shifted away from them.
#46
HazzBeen Wrote:The main goal of the community should be to get a coach who is going to prepare these kids for life and turn them into men. Jackson didn't win any state titles at Pikeville but I wonder how many kids he impacted in a positive way during his 3 years. I could say the same thing for McNamee and Chapman. If you do things the right way long enough, the state titles will come. Phillip Haywood is the best example I can think of. What if they would have got rid of him after 4 years of not winning a state title? Don't get me wrong state title's are great, but is this all we want out of coaches?

Your exactly right! A head coach needs to have great character and be a positive role model for these young men.
#47
State Champs Wrote:Spring football practice will not make or break the Pikeville Football program.

I agree with the part about it not breaking the Pikeville Football Program, but it could be a contributing factor to their success. Especially if they are going to be running a new style offense or defense.
#48
FOX SPORTS Wrote:IMO, Boyle County and Danville are both great programs.
From what I have heard Boyle Co has spring practice, Danville does not.

Spring practice does not make a great team.

It can't hurt though can it? And a team that has underachieved like Pikeville the last few years can surely use the extra work, especially adjusting to a new coach.
#49
Beef Wrote:Excellent Post!!! :notworthy

Would Copley totally give up on the kids and not lead them through Spring Practice if he isn't hired by the time it starts? I sounds like a man (I don't know him) who is committed to these young men and will stick with them at least through the spring. If he isn't hired and someone outside the region is, who is going to run practices anyway? It will be hard for a new coach to travel to Pikeville considering he will still probably be under contract with another school for the remainder of the semester.

Copley is a fine young man, and an asset to any football program. As far as what you're saying here, I'm not sure. Copley was given the reigns of Paintsville's strength and conditioning during the off-season when he was with the Tigers staff. When Burrhead Lemaster stepped down and the head coaching position was open, his favorite candidate Chuke Williams was the front runner for the position for awhile. When Bill Mike Runyon, was announced as the head coach, Copley was no where to be found. This is not a personal attack on Copley, nor can I say I fully blame him. He's an individual and he has to do what's best for him. There may have been more to him leaving than what meets the eye. Just a personal experience as an outsider looking in. I'm personally rooting for Copley to get the head coaching position, as I feel he qualified enough and definitely deserves it.
#50
jetpilot Wrote:It can't hurt though can it? And a team that has underachieved like Pikeville the last few years can surely use the extra work, especially adjusting to a new coach.
It can hurt if there are injuries.
We disagree on this one jetpilot.
Spring practice is overrated and the adjustment won't be that great if the "new" coach is one they are already familiar with.
Hmmmm???
#51
I agree with Fox, from a team concept spring football just isn't that beneficial.

It can be great, individually, for young players and linemen. They get more reps and can get some 1 on 1 instruction that they may not have gotten a lot of during the season. But for the most part, it is a depleted crew.

Plus at a small school you probably have a lot of your skill kids playing baseball and they won't be involved in spring football practice much if at all. I don't see it as a negative, but I also don't see it as a great boost either.

It's not anywhere nearly as beneficial as the added team practice (high level practices, too) that you get with the extra weeks that comes with a deep playoff run. That is where the rich get richer.
#52
FOX SPORTS Wrote:It can hurt if there are injuries.
We disagree on this one jetpilot.
Spring practice is overrated and the adjustment won't be that great if the "new" coach is one they are already familiar with.
Hmmmm???

There is only one guy that you could be talking about and if it is the same person that I am thinking of then Pikeville would be in good shape for a long while.
#53
I believe that spring practice is a great tool to help the younger kids who might not have gotten a lot of reps during the previous season. These are the kids you may be counting on this year to play, especially at small schools. I think if it is used correctly then it could be very beneficial. On the other hand if you get a kid hurt then you could be looking for another starter. It also gives kids who might not have played the year before to get out there and mix it up to see if they want to play during the season.
#54
I think spring football will be important for Pikeville. Remember they will have to install a whole new defense and offense most likely. I am sure the new coach would love to get this done in spring ball.
#55
If it is Copley then the offense and defense is already in place.
#56
FOX SPORTS Wrote:It can hurt if there are injuries.
We disagree on this one jetpilot.
Spring practice is overrated and the adjustment won't be that great if the "new" coach is one they are already familiar with.
Hmmmm???

Injuries are part of the game...they come with the territory and occur in every sport not making exceptions for anyone. Spring football is a great tool IMO to help the younger kids more than the older players. When I was in college, we actually accomplished more during our spring football practices than during the regular season because everyone was out there giving it their all to try and earn a spot. When August came around, those who shined during those 3 weeks were really the only ones that got a fair shake.

However, I think the spring drills allows for time to fine tune some things so you will be ahead of the game when July 15th comes around.
#57
FOX SPORTS Wrote:It can hurt if there are injuries.
We disagree on this one jetpilot.
Spring practice is overrated and the adjustment won't be that great if the "new" coach is one they are already familiar with.
Hmmmm???

I'm ready to support the new coach, whoever he is. Just hope someone is named soon. I would like to see them practicing, so the rumors of people transferring are put to rest. After thinking about it more, I'm sure the committee is just trying to get it right and do what's best.
#58
Not to get off topic, but has everyone seen Harmon lately? He's getting huge.
#59
The Blue Blur Wrote:Copley is a fine young man, and an asset to any football program. As far as what you're saying here, I'm not sure. Copley was given the reigns of Paintsville's strength and conditioning during the off-season when he was with the Tigers staff. When Burrhead Lemaster stepped down and the head coaching position was open, his favorite candidate Chuke Williams was the front runner for the position for awhile. When Bill Mike Runyon, was announced as the head coach, Copley was no where to be found. This is not a personal attack on Copley, nor can I say I fully blame him. He's an individual and he has to do what's best for him. There may have been more to him leaving than what meets the eye. Just a personal experience as an outsider looking in. I'm personally rooting for Copley to get the head coaching position, as I feel he qualified enough and definitely deserves it.


You're not exactly right on all your facts. Yes Copley was the strength and conditioning coach for Lemaster and Chuke was in the running for the head coaching position. When Lemaster resigned the AD had the weight lifting and conditioning programs closed until the new coach was in place. When BMR was hired as head coach he offered Michael the same position as he had with Coach Lemaster. Michael didn't want to coach somewhere that Chuke wasn't involved with.
#60
Elwayfan Wrote:That's interesting, I guess there will have to be an opening for her also. I wonder what she teaches?

You obviously haven't been around Pikeville long. Jobs aren't created in that district- they are few and far between in the elementary and hard to come by. It doesn't matter if you are the coach's wife or not...

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