[EKUAlum05]

Belfry vs Letcher Central in the Pike Co Bowl would be a good match.

They are playing a home and home series in the regular season.

[ryandamaste5]

As for the schedule as of right now:
Non-District
Boyd County or Cov. Holy Cross (Pike County Bowl)
Pikeville
Ashland
Letcher Central
Johnson Central

District
Sheldon Clark
Pike Central
East Ridge

Looks like room left for two non-district games... I expect Belfry to pick-up one fairly easy game against a team comparable to what East Carter or Shelby Valley is... and probably one more difficult game.

Personally, the SV game didn't really bother me being on the schedule.. barring Belfry upgrading their other non-district games. SV is a short distance drive for the fans, a decent and improving team, a team who typically spreads the field which is beneficial for Belfry to play against, and Coach Saunders has carried himself with a lot of class. Additionally, if anyone is going to beenfit from getting a gate share from belfry's fans, I would prefer it to be a Pike County team.

I think Belfry should schedule Highlands. That would be a great game.

[Bleacher_Creature_10]

Yes, Belfry beat Sheldon Clark twice. BUT, Sheldon Clark did play Belfry. I would like myself to know why P-burg and Belfry don't play anymore. What is the reasoning behind this? Did something happen to change feelings towards the game between the two? Does anyone who posts in here know?? LOLOL.....

Yeah only because they had to!

[Old School]

As for the schedule as of right now:
Non-District
Boyd County or Cov. Holy Cross (Pike County Bowl)
Pikeville
Ashland
Letcher Central
Johnson Central

District
Sheldon Clark
Pike Central
East Ridge

Looks like room left for two non-district games... I expect Belfry to pick-up one fairly easy game against a team comparable to what East Carter or Shelby Valley is... and probably one more difficult game.

Personally, the SV game didn't really bother me being on the schedule.. barring Belfry upgrading their other non-district games. SV is a short distance drive for the fans, a decent and improving team, a team who typically spreads the field which is beneficial for Belfry to play against, and Coach Saunders has carried himself with a lot of class. Additionally, if anyone is going to beenfit from getting a gate share from belfry's fans, I would prefer it to be a Pike County team.

Where will the Ashland game be played? Is it a two year contract?

[EKUAlum05]

Where will the Ashland game be played? Is it a two year contract?

Don't know where the initial will be played, but from what I gather it is a home and home...

[cuppett777]

i would play as many tough teams as possible, dont go for win/lose, but impoving the team like central did last year..these guys will grow up faster.

[sc74]

Where is Sc playing pburg next year?

[cuppett777]

Where will the Ashland game be played? Is it a two year contract?

from what i was told its at belfry this year..

[throw deep]

from what i was told its at belfry this year..

Don't get your hopes up on the Ashland game, their superintendent notified Ashland's AD last week that the team would not be able to schedule Belfry because of the length of travel, the AD (Swift) was going to meet again late last week in hopes of changing the super.'s mind!!!!

[cuppett777]

Don't get your hopes up on the Ashland game, their superintendent notified Ashland's AD last week that the team would not be able to schedule Belfry because of the length of travel, the AD (Swift) was going to meet again late last week in hopes of changing the super.'s mind!!!!

that dont surpise me..

[Bleacher_Creature_10]

SC has alot of trouble with Belfry but pburg is not the same caliber team as Belfry. Pburg has been down for a few years. They have just been covering it up with a weak schedule. Thats why they don't want to play Belfry or JC. They would rather pad their schedule and win 8 games a year then play a schedule thats going to make them better. But their schedule did improve some this past year and hopefully they will schedule more than two competitve teams this next year.

I don't know what PBURG team you have been watching. PBURG has made it to the region finals three years in a row. Thats alot more than alot of teams in KY can say.

[mrfootball03]

As for the schedule as of right now:
Non-District
Boyd County or Cov. Holy Cross (Pike County Bowl)
Pikeville
Ashland
Letcher Central
Johnson Central

District
Sheldon Clark
Pike Central
East Ridge

Looks like room left for two non-district games... I expect Belfry to pick-up one fairly easy game against a team comparable to what East Carter or Shelby Valley is... and probably one more difficult game.

Personally, the SV game didn't really bother me being on the schedule.. barring Belfry upgrading their other non-district games. SV is a short distance drive for the fans, a decent and improving team, a team who typically spreads the field which is beneficial for Belfry to play against, and Coach Saunders has carried himself with a lot of class. Additionally, if anyone is going to beenfit from getting a gate share from belfry's fans, I would prefer it to be a Pike County team.

from what im hearing, JC was a two game contract, and wouldnt be renewed. just a rumor tho.. i dotn know

[cuppett777]

[quote=mrfootball03]from what im hearing, JC was a two game contract, and wouldnt be renewed. just a rumor tho.. i dotn


that needs to be a game every year, helps both teams

[GRIFFIN]

I Like Seeing Letcher Central Playing The Best Like Belfry Hazard

[Sarrr]

When was the last time they played, '05? That wasn't too bad of a game. The games in '03 & '04 (wasn't '04 the OT game?) were amazingly good football games!

[Sarrr]

What about Magoffin? Everyone keeps forgetting them.

[OutlawJoseyWales]

As for the schedule as of right now:
Non-District
Boyd County or Cov. Holy Cross (Pike County Bowl)
Pikeville
Ashland
Letcher Central
Johnson Central

District
Sheldon Clark
Pike Central
East Ridge

Looks like room left for two non-district games... I expect Belfry to pick-up one fairly easy game against a team comparable to what East Carter or Shelby Valley is... and probably one more difficult game.

Personally, the SV game didn't really bother me being on the schedule.. barring Belfry upgrading their other non-district games. SV is a short distance drive for the fans, a decent and improving team, a team who typically spreads the field which is beneficial for Belfry to play against, and Coach Saunders has carried himself with a lot of class. Additionally, if anyone is going to beenfit from getting a gate share from belfry's fans, I would prefer it to be a Pike County team.

So we have Ashland on the schedule next year? The way their Administration acts...specificially their AD....I wouldn't give them the time of day.

[oneijoe]

What I agther about Belfry/Pburg is that Derrossett is still sore about when Chat Yates transferred to Pburg a few years back, he felt that someone associated with Belfry went out of their way to try to block that transfer

Then Belfry got David Jones and nothing was ever investigated.

Sounds to me like Derrossett just has some sour apples leftover and is letting that get in the way.

EKU...

It wasn't something Coach D. "felt". It was fact. There was an "interested party" from Belfry High that objected to Yates transfer with the KHSAA. This happened the year after Jones transferred to Belfry.

What had/has Coach D. "upset" is he felt P-burg football wasn't treated with the same respect he showed his old coach's current team (in NOT objecting to the Jones transfer the year before). The stab in the back really shocked him at the time. And when damage might have been limited with an phoned apology or other explaination, there was nothing but silence from Pond Creek (I think this upset him more than the objection). I think the best way to describe how the coach felt is...disrespected and offended.

It may take Prestonsburg growing to 3A or Belfry shrinking back to 2A before we see these two teams play again (as district foes).

From a selfish perspective, I'd LOVE to see the two schools play again. But P-burg is unquestionably Coach Derossett's team and what he says, goes.

[BatCat11]

What about Magoffin? Everyone keeps forgetting them.

They are no longer in the same district

[Buc-a-roo]

As for the schedule as of right now:
Non-District
Boyd County or Cov. Holy Cross (Pike County Bowl)
Pikeville
Ashland
Letcher Central
Johnson Central

District
Sheldon Clark
Pike Central
East Ridge

Add Logan WV to that list. That leaves one opening.

Where will the Ashland game be played? Is it a two year contract?

Nothing in black and white, but the agreement is 2 year and the first one is supposed to be at Belfry.

from what im hearing, JC was a two game contract, and wouldnt be renewed. just a rumor tho.. i dotn know

One of Matney's excuses this year for losing to Belfry was that he had to play Ashland the week before. So Matney has said he won't play Belfry the week after Ashland again. Not sure if that leaves any flexibility to reschedule.

[Buc-a-roo]

It wasn't something Coach D. "felt". It was fact. There was an "interested party" from Belfry High that objected to Yates transfer with the KHSAA. This happened the year after Jones transferred to Belfry.

What had/has Coach D. "upset" is he felt P-burg football wasn't treated with the same respect he showed his old coach's current team (in NOT objecting to the Jones transfer the year before). The stab in the back really shocked him at the time. And when damage might have been limited with an phoned apology or other explaination, there was nothing but silence from Pond Creek (I think this upset him more than the objection). I think the best way to describe how the coach felt is...disrespected and offended.

Who? What interested party got involved from Belfry and "objected" to the transfer? What exactly does that mean anyway, "objected" to the transfer? Please enlighten us.

Stab in the back, cry me a river. Obviously the KHSAA felt that the transfer was not legitimate, if I remember correctly, they voted unanimously not to allow Yates' waiver. If that is the case, then John is mad because he got caught? I guess its Belfry's fault Pburg got in trouble again a year or two later and had to forfeit all their wins in another scandal?

Funny that John's hurt feelings and moral stand against Belfry came about the same time he started getting his *** kicked every year by them.

[EKUAlum05]

Add Logan WV to that list. That leaves one opening.

Nothing in black and white, but the agreement is 2 year and the first one is supposed to be at Belfry.

One of Matney's excuses this year for losing to Belfry was that he had to play Ashland the week before. So Matney has said he won't play Belfry the week after Ashland again. Not sure if that leaves any flexibility to reschedule.

Week 2, Week 4, and Week 7 were other mutual dates based on last year's schedule when these teams could have ptoentially played. Of course that is barring when they have arranged their other games.


Week 6 would have made the most sense with Paintsville and JC ending their series... but that is also Belfry/Pikeville week.

[oneijoe]

Who? What interested party got involved from Belfry and "objected" to the transfer? What exactly does that mean anyway, "objected" to the transfer? Please enlighten us.

Stab in the back, cry me a river. Obviously the KHSAA felt that the transfer was not legitimate, if I remember correctly, they voted unanimously not to allow Yates' waiver. If that is the case, then John is mad because he got caught? I guess its Belfry's fault Pburg got in trouble again a year or two later and had to forfeit all their wins in another scandal?

Funny that John's hurt feelings and moral stand against Belfry came about the same time he started getting his *** kicked every year by them.

You have a funny way of requesting information...

If neither of the two schools involved in given transfer have a problem, the paperwork is signed and all are happy. However, a "party of interest" (yes, that's what it's called) may request a KHSAA review - that's the "objected" part.

In the Yates affair, the party to whom I referred earlier was associated with Belfry High School.

________________________________


But the rest of your post is reckless spin. Very funny...!!!

You didn't know what an "interested party" was. But just in case it's bad for Belfry, you claim it's OK because the Belfry alumni-led KHSAA Board of Control voted against the transfer. You also think P-burg had to be wrong because they got in trouble for something unrelated two years later. And... you don't think Coach Derossett's morals are legit because it has to do with a team that has beaten him.

Did I get all that about right ? hh: :p

[Buc-a-roo]

You have a funny way of requesting information...

If neither of the two schools involved in given transfer have a problem, the paperwork is signed and all are happy. However, a "party of interest" (yes, that's what it's called) may request a KHSAA review - that's the "objected" part.

In the Yates affair, the party to whom I referred earlier was associated with Belfry High School.

You still didn't answer the question. Again, who from Belfry objected? Since I have no idea, and you obviously do, I'm genuinely interested in knowing this.

And if the transfer was legitimate, with regard to KHSAA rules, wouldn't it have held up under KHSAA review no matter who reported it?

As to the bolded part, I don't think the transfer process is that simple. Every transfer is ineligible for 1 year. But they can apply for a waiver of that year if they meet certain criteria. That is what the KHSAA has to review. Both schools signing off is not a guarantee of anything no matter if there are interested parties or not.

But the rest of your post is reckless spin. Very funny...!!!

You didn't know what an "interested party" was. But just in case it's bad for Belfry, you claim it's OK because the Belfry alumni-led KHSAA Board of Control voted against the transfer. You also think P-burg had to be wrong because they got in trouble for something unrelated two years later. And... you don't think Coach Derossett's morals are legit because it has to do with a team that has beaten him.

Did I get all that about right ?

Just in case its bad for Belfry, its OK? Huh? Where on Earth did you get that from my post?

The Board of Control had one member who was formerly an employee of Belfry High School. That is one member out of 15. You're saying that he voted against Yates just because he was from Belfry, that he ignored the facts of the case, and that he influenced the other 14 members to do the same?

Consipiracy Theory Alert!!! And this is all the more funny because Prestonsburg actually believes Belfry is responsible for their problems and infidelities with the KHSAA.

And for the record, I didn't question John's morals. I said it was ironic that he decided to exercise them and refuse to play Belfry after a few years of Belfry kicking Pburg around. If Pburg had won the last 2 or 3 meetings would he have declined to play them in 2007 and 2008? I doubt it.

[oneijoe]

You still didn't answer the question. Again, who from Belfry objected? Since I have no idea, and you obviously do, I'm genuinely interested in knowing this.

Not going to disclose this information. It served little purpose 4 yrs. ago, and even less now.

And if the transfer was legitimate, with regard to KHSAA rules, wouldn't it have held up under KHSAA review no matter who reported it?

As to the bolded part, I don't think the transfer process is that simple. Every transfer is ineligible for 1 year. But they can apply for a waiver of that year if they meet certain criteria. That is what the KHSAA has to review. Both schools signing off is not a guarantee of anything no matter if there are interested parties or not.

I was referring to the waiver when I mentioned "signed paperwork". My bad on not being clear, sorry for any confusion.

Just in case its bad for Belfry, its OK? Huh? Where on Earth did you get that from my post?

You began by asking a question. You then proceeded to explain, in detail, why whatever the answer may be, Belfry couldn't be faulted.

The Board of Control had one member who was formerly an employee of Belfry High School. That is one member out of 15. You're saying that he voted against Yates just because he was from Belfry, that he ignored the facts of the case, and that he influenced the other 14 members to do the same?

Not just a member on the BoC, but the Chairman. But please note, I never accused him of wrong-doing. However, he'd have been better served to recuse himself in the matter's deliberation.

Consipiracy Theory Alert!!! And this is all the more funny because Prestonsburg actually believes Belfry is responsible for their problems and infidelities with the KHSAA.

ONE issue was caused by ONE person associated with Belfry. That's it.

And for the record, I didn't question John's morals. I said it was ironic that he decided to exercise them and refuse to play Belfry after a few years of Belfry kicking Pburg around. If Pburg had won the last 2 or 3 meetings would he have declined to play them in 2007 and 2008? I doubt it.

This one's easy...

Coach Derossett never had a choice in playing Belfry until 2007 when Belfry left Prestonsburg's 2A district. And the outcome of games in 2005 and 2006 had NO bearing on P-burg's scheduling decision (you can believe it or not, your choice).

You keep referring to Coach Derossett as "John"...do you know him personally ? :confused:

[cuppett777]

so are we adding logan wv, what about jc are they staying on there or we replacing them, hope they stay..

[joethegreek]

Don't know about Logan. Logan by rule must play at least 5 triple schools in order to be eleigble for the playoffs. Right now they have four. The problem is that so many 3A's are in a conference and they are having trouble. Logan
High has petioned the WVSSAC for a waiver. That's the reason wht Logan has not returned the contract. They are waiting on the WVSSAC to rule. Logan went 3-7 there QB broke his arm in week 3 and they lost alot of players from the previous year.

[cuppett777]

i know its close but i dont think we need to play them that game wont help them..joe why is wayne so scared to play?if they are as good as they say they are they shouldnt have to worry about losing and not getting there points for the playoffs..

[MonsterMan]

Add Logan WV to that list. That leaves one opening.

Nothing in black and white, but the agreement is 2 year and the first one is supposed to be at Belfry.

One of Matney's excuses this year for losing to Belfry was that he had to play Ashland the week before. So Matney has said he won't play Belfry the week after Ashland again. Not sure if that leaves any flexibility to reschedule.

I am not sure about the date but I can gaurantee Matney wants to play Belfry! Great series and gate. JC did come off a big week at Ashland and JC was not sharp for that game and still played close. I think Belfry had come off a soft opponent the week before, in fact, Belfry's coach told WYMT after the game they needed a game like JC to prepare for the playoffs. So what if Matney wants to pick a week that is good for JC. The district games are what is is about. Lets hope they work it out!

I do not want to start a war, but I have heard that the KHSAA board member is form Pike county and the Pike schools get away with more transfers. JC got hosed on legimate transfer and some teams trade rosters like pro teams and nothing ever gets said. Any comment on this?

[EKUAlum05]

I am not sure about the date but I can gaurantee Matney wants to play Belfry! Great series and gate. JC did come off a big week at Ashland and JC was not sharp for that game and still played close. I think Belfry had come off a soft opponent the week before, in fact, Belfry's coach told WYMT after the game they needed a game like JC to prepare for the playoffs. So what if Matney wants to pick a week that is good for JC. The district games are what is is about. Lets hope they work it out!

I do not want to start a war, but I have heard that the KHSAA board member is form Pike county and the Pike schools get away with more transfers. JC got hosed on legimate transfer and some teams trade rosters like pro teams and nothing ever gets said. Any comment on this?

Yeah.. it's false and propoganda tha started from just slightly down US 23