God's Existence

**outdoorsman43** · 03-26-2009, 11:52 PM

Kentucky_Liberal Wrote:Which Kind? Human? Plant?..oh and why is the burden of evidence on me. Give me some proof of creationism?
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I'd like to hear all types of the evidence.

Scientists just prove more and more that there is a God when trying to prove that there is not one.

**outdoorsman43** · 03-26-2009, 11:54 PM

JMEWLS Wrote:Evidence of evolution is all around you. And as Kentucky Liberal said, the Big Bang and evolution are totally different, and not related at all. Charles Darwin outlined what he called "descent with modification" meaning that all life on Earth came from a common set of ancestors. You want evolution proof? Look at fossil records, just keep your mind open and think about it, evolution is proven, evolution happens everyday and everywhere around you, there is no way you can disprove it.

So, you're saying that our ancestors were indeed monkeys?

Please tell me you're kidding.

JMEWLS · 03-27-2009, 12:11 AM

outdoorsman43 Wrote:So, you're saying that our ancestors were indeed monkeys?

Please tell me you're kidding.

No, Im not saying that at all. You dont understand the theory of evolution.

The Theory of Evolution has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with us descending from primates.

Charles Darwin releaseda book several years after "The Origin of Species" that was titled "The Origin of Man" where we described that we may have had some ancestors that were closer to primates, but he never stated that he thought he came from monkeys. If you read his original book, there are several statements that referred to a higher being creating the original life that all other life descended from. He even said none of this could happen had the original breath of life not been breathed into the ancestors. You need to have a basic understanding of the theory and what it states and doesnt state before you shoot it down so quickly.

**outdoorsman43** · 03-27-2009, 12:47 AM

JMEWLS Wrote:No, Im not saying that at all. You dont understand the theory of evolution.

The Theory of Evolution has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with us descending from primates.

Charles Darwin releaseda book several years after "The Origin of Species" that was titled "The Origin of Man" where we described that we may have had some ancestors that were closer to primates, but he never stated that he thought he came from monkeys. If you read his original book, there are several statements that referred to a higher being creating the original life that all other life descended from. He even said none of this could happen had the original breath of life not been breathed into the ancestors. You need to have a basic understanding of the theory and what it states and doesnt state before you shoot it down so quickly.

Do you have an understanding of creationism?

Of course you can't prove creationism with physical evidence. Certain types of evolution I do believe in. But, humans were created by God and no one will ever prove that to be untrue.

JMEWLS · 03-27-2009, 01:09 AM

outdoorsman43 Wrote:Do you have an understanding of creationism?

Of course you can't prove creationism with physical evidence. Certain types of evolution I do believe in. But, humans were created by God and no one will ever prove that to be untrue.

Your absolutely right. No one will ever prove that to be untrue. But no one will ever have 100% proof that God did create man, thats why God's Existance is up to us, we got to have faith in Him and his spirit. And my friend I can say I do have that, I love Him and I love Jesus, thats all that I can do, just have faith in them.

**outdoorsman43** · 03-28-2009, 12:14 AM

JMEWLS Wrote:Your absolutely right. No one will ever prove that to be untrue. But no one will ever have 100% proof that God did create man, thats why God's Existance is up to us, we got to have faith in Him and his spirit. And my friend I can say I do have that, I love Him and I love Jesus, thats all that I can do, just have faith in them.

You struck me wrong with your first post and I agree with this post 100%. He is my Lord too, my friend.

Kentucky_Liberal · 03-28-2009, 01:58 AM

outdoorsman43 Wrote:You struck me wrong with your first post and I agree with this post 100%. He is my Lord too, my friend.

He struck you wrong because he Generalizes people apparently

Kentucky_Liberal · 03-28-2009, 02:01 AM

outdoorsman43 Wrote:Do you have an understanding of creationism?

Of course you can't prove creationism with physical evidence. Certain types of evolution I do believe in. But, humans were created by God and no one will ever prove that to be untrue.

I don't set out to try to say God didn't put us here (even though i don't believe in that type of stuff)...i just think evolution gives an account of what happend after we were put here or got here.

Kentucky_Liberal · 03-28-2009, 02:05 AM

JMEWLS Wrote:No, Im not saying that at all. You dont understand the theory of evolution.

The Theory of Evolution has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with us descending from primates.

Charles Darwin releaseda book several years after "The Origin of Species" that was titled "The Origin of Man" where we described that we may have had some ancestors that were closer to primates, but he never stated that he thought he came from monkeys. If you read his original book, there are several statements that referred to a higher being creating the original life that all other life descended from. He even said none of this could happen had the original breath of life not been breathed into the ancestors. You need to have a basic understanding of the theory and what it states and doesnt state before you shoot it down so quickly.

YES!...A theist who understands!!!! :rockon:

Kentucky_Liberal · 03-28-2009, 02:20 AM

I thought i would add that the scientist that proposed the Big Bang theory Was indeed religious he was a roman catholic priest named Georges LemaÃ®tre
he wasn't irreligious. He also stated a "Creation-Like" must've took place.

Link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Lema%C3%AEtre

**RavenBoy** · 03-28-2009, 12:17 PM

No wonder the world is falling apart.

Kentucky_Liberal · 03-28-2009, 02:57 PM

RavenBoy Wrote:No wonder the world is falling apart.

What's that supposed to mean?

~~Mr.Kimball~~ · 03-28-2009, 07:02 PM

Kentucky_Liberal Wrote:What's that supposed to mean?

Think about it. Naw nevermind, you could never comprehend it.

I also agree 100%.

JMEWLS · 03-28-2009, 07:11 PM

Kentucky_Liberal Wrote:He struck you wrong because he Generalizes people apparently

How did I generalize anybody?

Kentucky_Liberal · 03-29-2009, 02:37 AM

JMEWLS Wrote:How did I generalize anybody?

not you outdoorsman was who i was talking about...sorry for the missunderstanding

Kentucky_Liberal · 03-29-2009, 02:46 AM

Mr.Kimball Wrote:Think about it. Naw nevermind, you could never comprehend it.

I also agree 100%.

:redboxer:
The world is falling apart because everybody are not of the christian faith. Right?. Since it's so Superior to all the other religions. and so much truer. Right?

JMEWLS · 03-29-2009, 02:48 AM

Kentucky_Liberal Wrote:not you outdoorsman was who i was talking about...sorry for the missunderstanding

Ok, thanks.

Kentucky_Liberal · 03-29-2009, 02:53 AM

JMEWLS Wrote:Ok, thanks.

Your welcome. what i was saying about him generalizing was that he assumes someone does not believe in god or is not christian if they don't find evolution illogical or outrageous

Deathstar 80 · 03-29-2009, 04:28 PM

Kentucky_Liberal Wrote::redboxer:
The world is falling apart because everybody are not of the christian faith. Right?. Since it's so Superior to all the other religions. and so much truer. Right?

I think he means that since we are going farther away from God (such as not believing in him anymore) that the world is falling apart.

Quote:Since it's so Superior to all the other religions. and so much truer. Right?

Don't mean to be picky or anything, but I just wanted to say that something can't be "truer" than another. It's either right or wrong.

Kentucky_Liberal · 03-29-2009, 06:31 PM

Deathstar 80 Wrote:I think he means that since we are going farther away from God (such as not believing in him anymore) that the world is falling apart.

The world is going to fall apart from Zionist and Islamic extremists so maybe getting closer isn't such a fantastic idea

Deathstar 80 Wrote:Don't mean to be picky or anything, but I just wanted to say that something can't be "truer" than another. It's either right or wrong.

Or nothings right at all. i tend to lean towards that because if there is one "true" religion there wouldn't be so many

sherman14 · 03-29-2009, 06:42 PM

Kentucky_Liberal Wrote:The world is going to fall apart from Zionist and Islamic extremists so maybe getting closer isn't such a fantastic idea

Or nothings right at all. i tend to lean towards that because if there is one "true" religion there wouldn't be so many

Yes there would. God gives us free will. Free will to go do whatever. Like make up things called evolution

Kentucky_Liberal · 03-29-2009, 07:06 PM

sherman14 Wrote:Yes there would. God gives us free will. Free will to go do whatever. Like make up things called evolution

Thinking is what gave you free will. or make up gravity since science is so Evil...lol

sherman14 · 03-29-2009, 07:08 PM

Kentucky_Liberal Wrote:Thinking is what gave you free will. or make up gravity since science is so Evil...lol

No God gave me free will as much as you. I didn't say science was fake I was stating my opinion on how I think evolution is fake get your story straight

Kentucky_Liberal · 03-29-2009, 07:12 PM

sherman14 Wrote:No God gave me free will as much as you. I didn't say science was fake I was stating my opinion on how I think evolution is fake get your story straight

i didn't even say you said it was fake. i was saying people treat science like it's evil.

sherman14 · 03-29-2009, 07:13 PM

Kentucky_Liberal Wrote:i didn't even say you said it was fake. i was saying people treat science like it's evil.

They can treat it how they want. Once again it's called free will.

Kentucky_Liberal · 03-29-2009, 07:37 PM

sherman14 Wrote:They can treat it how they want. Once again it's called free will.

That is just human has nothing to do with the divine

sherman14 · 03-29-2009, 10:03 PM

Kentucky_Liberal Wrote:That is just human has nothing to do with the divine

And with this whole post. Who are you to tell me my GOD doesn't exist?

Kentucky_Liberal · 03-29-2009, 11:09 PM

sherman14 Wrote:And with this whole post. Who are you to tell me my GOD doesn't exist?

Who are you to tell me i need saved and i'm wrong...same difference...i don't think it exists...but by any means believe what you want...we have freedom of religion in this country and i'm proud we have it Smile

sherman14 · 03-29-2009, 11:43 PM

Kentucky_Liberal Wrote:Who are you to tell me i need saved and i'm wrong...same difference...i don't think it exists...but by any means believe what you want...we have freedom of religion in this country and i'm proud we have it

I have never told you that you nedd saved. The it you are refering to is my GOD. One day we will all answer to him.

Kentucky_Liberal · 03-30-2009, 12:04 AM

sherman14 Wrote:I have never told you that you nedd saved. The it you are refering to is my GOD. One day we will all answer to him.

i didn't mean just the Abrahamic gods. sorry i meant God, No need to throw a fit. Maybe Maybe not. but like i said in my last post. I'm glad to live in this country because we can believe what we want to instead of being forced to believe in something