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03-29-2011, 10:19 PM
Hoot Gibson Wrote:Where public schools and universities in this country, including Kentucky, fail miserably is teaching students to learn and making learning itself "cool." Too many people look at their final graduation date, whether that comes after 12, 14, or 16 years as the end of their education. Too many teachers reenforce the common American belief that math is "hard."
As LWC said, if you want to discuss class size, then you have to talk about funding. If you want to make the argument that smaller class sizes and larger per pupil expenditures equate to a better quality education, then be prepared to explain how Utah ranks so high in average college entrance scores - and why so many school districts (e.g., the District of Columbia) rank high in per pupil spending and low in virtually everything else
Also, be prepared to explain why a Libertarian believes that the burden for improving education lies with the Commonwealth of Kentucky. What about privatizing schools or at least diverting some additional resources to private schools through a voluntary voucher system.
Would the elimination of the Department of Education fall under the taboo heading of school funding? I would like to see concrete evidence that the quality of public education has improved since the creation of the Department of Education. If not, then I want to know why anybody believes that it should continue to drain resources away from local school districts.
You raise some excellent questions. Where to begin...
Money seems to be on the topic of most people. However, I think it is important to get a job description first, before, I am willing to tell how much money I am ready to pay for that person.
As Hoot would agree in the private world you would look at the following: I paraphrased for a teacher.
Qualifications

Job Description (what the teacher is going to teach curriculum, how many children I am going to deal with on a day to day basis)
Accountability: (who is accountable for what and how it is measured)
Experience: (how many years taught)
Vacation Time: (Holidays or just two weeks)
Contract Time: (the standard 175 days, or do I pay 351 days)
As pointed out by Hoot, I am a libertarian and believe completely in the free market, so money is a variable on of this isn't it. I am going to pay someone differently with a highschool diploma than a PHD, I am going to pay someone differently based on experience, I will probably have to increase the pay if accountablity standards are high. I will probably pay less if my child is in a crowded room, because I believe that MY child deserves the teacher's best effort and time. I will probably have to pay more if the contract has more days in it.
So answer those questions and I will talk money for a single teacher.
I will answer another interesting point in the next thread.
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Educational Reform? - by tvtimeout - 03-29-2011, 05:58 PM
Educational Reform? - by LWC - 03-29-2011, 06:10 PM
Educational Reform? - by Hoot Gibson - 03-29-2011, 07:32 PM
Educational Reform? - by tvtimeout - 03-29-2011, 10:19 PM
Educational Reform? - by tvtimeout - 03-29-2011, 10:26 PM
Educational Reform? - by tvtimeout - 03-29-2011, 10:41 PM
Educational Reform? - by tvtimeout - 03-29-2011, 10:42 PM
Educational Reform? - by Hoot Gibson - 03-29-2011, 11:39 PM
Educational Reform? - by LWC - 03-29-2011, 11:44 PM
Educational Reform? - by nky - 03-30-2011, 10:18 AM
Educational Reform? - by nky - 03-30-2011, 10:20 AM
Educational Reform? - by nky - 03-30-2011, 10:24 AM
Educational Reform? - by nky - 03-30-2011, 10:34 AM
Educational Reform? - by nky - 03-30-2011, 11:02 AM
Educational Reform? - by Truth - 03-30-2011, 01:46 PM
Educational Reform? - by tvtimeout - 03-31-2011, 05:29 PM
Educational Reform? - by tvtimeout - 03-31-2011, 05:33 PM
Educational Reform? - by tvtimeout - 03-31-2011, 05:53 PM
Educational Reform? - by nky - 03-31-2011, 08:19 PM
Educational Reform? - by Hoot Gibson - 03-31-2011, 08:38 PM
Educational Reform? - by tvtimeout - 03-31-2011, 10:14 PM
Educational Reform? - by Old School - 04-01-2011, 09:35 PM
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