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04-05-2011, 03:57 PM
TheRealThing Wrote:[quote=tvtimeout]
Okay we have some common ground. Your Libertarian position on choice is redundant though. Our Creator gave us the gift of choice when we were born into this world. Whether or not someone says THEY offer the option to choose is irrelevant. Further, this power of choice, is the basis for The Judgement awaiting us all. We choose Christ, which is the only route to savation, or we follow our own star, which puts one on one of the many routes to destruction.
Either way, saying that government should provide a user friendly evironment for those who would drug themselves into a life long twilight zone is absurd on the face of it. Tax payers become burdened as you put it because the drug users create an undersireable and unsafe environment for the rest of us and our children. Ensuring safe and secure cities, shopping malls, schools and in our case, the whole USA, really is a true function of government. People are free to choose in our country. They can freely go out, get drunk and then unfortunately drive their car. That's when they violate my rights, and I believe they should suffer for that choice. That's what our government does, enforce laws to protect the people.
I believe in choice, I'm all about choice. For instance, I am all for women's rights to Choose when it comes to their body, so I'm pro choice. What I stand totally against is this; a woman chooses to engage in behavior that causes her to become pregnant, she then decides to abort the child within her citing her right to choose. May I further demonstrate the point? If one drives drunk and kills somebody, he should lose his right to be free and go to jail. If one decides to be sexually involved and becomes pregnant she should not be allowed to kill the innocent unborn within her. In other words when personal choices hurt other people they are wrong. A woman's right to choose doesn't mean she has the right to decide to abort her baby, that's another PERSON we're talking about.
Here we come to common ground again, government does not have the right, and should not have the authority, to make it legal or otherwise assist people, including funding abortion, to do things that are wrong.
Now, getting back to nuclear power. Again, I think it is justifiably a function of government to oversee and regulate the use of nuclear power. I believe nuclear power is a much needed source of energy in our country. Additionally, I believe the risk involved can be made low enough to be a safe energy source for the USA, by government oversight.
I said the government should stay out of the drug market period. What happens to a drug if it becomes decriminalized? It costs less, less profit, eventually, people will die, and a less of a market appears. In time there will be no money to be made, due to lack of demand, due to death. Cost of the product goes down.
Now I do agree with you, they do not have the right to violate your right as a citizen and that is a practical function of the government. When a violation occurs, you prosacute, such as the drunk driving case.
Abortion should not ever be funded by the government, planned parenthood should be destroyed. However, if an individual wishes to open a clinic up, then by all means, do it.
As far as the abortion issue considering if it is a life. I know what my religious impluses are, but, I don't know if I can force my opinion on someone else. I know I am not God or Jesus, so I guess I would leave it up to them. I would tell that woman, how precious life is and there are other alternatives, but I think I would leave it up to her.
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Nuclear Power - by Shady Grady - 03-16-2011, 12:27 AM
Nuclear Power - by Bolt - 03-16-2011, 01:18 AM
Nuclear Power - by Stardust - 03-16-2011, 06:50 AM
Nuclear Power - by TheRealVille - 03-16-2011, 09:30 AM
Nuclear Power - by TheRealVille - 03-16-2011, 09:43 AM
Nuclear Power - by TheRealVille - 03-16-2011, 10:06 AM
Nuclear Power - by BillyB - 03-16-2011, 12:41 PM
Nuclear Power - by Bob Seger - 03-16-2011, 01:01 PM
Nuclear Power - by Bob Seger - 03-16-2011, 01:08 PM
Nuclear Power - by TheRealVille - 03-16-2011, 01:17 PM
Nuclear Power - by TheRealVille - 03-16-2011, 01:33 PM
Nuclear Power - by Hoot Gibson - 03-16-2011, 05:42 PM
Nuclear Power - by TheRealVille - 03-16-2011, 05:48 PM
Nuclear Power - by Old School - 03-16-2011, 06:03 PM
Nuclear Power - by Hoot Gibson - 03-16-2011, 06:07 PM
Nuclear Power - by TheRealVille - 03-16-2011, 06:19 PM
Nuclear Power - by Beetle01 - 03-16-2011, 08:37 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-18-2011, 04:14 PM
Nuclear Power - by Hoot Gibson - 03-18-2011, 05:35 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-18-2011, 05:44 PM
Nuclear Power - by Hoot Gibson - 03-18-2011, 05:46 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-18-2011, 05:47 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-18-2011, 05:49 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-18-2011, 05:51 PM
Nuclear Power - by Hoot Gibson - 03-18-2011, 05:53 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-18-2011, 05:54 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-18-2011, 05:56 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-18-2011, 05:57 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-18-2011, 06:03 PM
Nuclear Power - by Hoot Gibson - 03-18-2011, 06:03 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-18-2011, 06:07 PM
Nuclear Power - by Hoot Gibson - 03-18-2011, 06:11 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-18-2011, 06:16 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-18-2011, 06:20 PM
Nuclear Power - by Hoot Gibson - 03-18-2011, 06:21 PM
Nuclear Power - by Hoot Gibson - 03-18-2011, 06:26 PM
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Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-18-2011, 06:31 PM
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Nuclear Power - by Hoot Gibson - 03-18-2011, 06:44 PM
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Nuclear Power - by Hoot Gibson - 03-18-2011, 10:50 PM
Nuclear Power - by TheRealThing - 03-18-2011, 11:55 PM
Nuclear Power - by vundy33 - 03-19-2011, 03:42 AM
Nuclear Power - by Hoot Gibson - 03-19-2011, 06:50 AM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-19-2011, 07:17 AM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-19-2011, 07:26 AM
Nuclear Power - by Hoot Gibson - 03-19-2011, 08:09 AM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-19-2011, 09:23 AM
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Nuclear Power - by Hoot Gibson - 03-19-2011, 10:03 AM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-19-2011, 10:53 AM
Nuclear Power - by Old School - 03-19-2011, 07:36 PM
Nuclear Power - by TheRealThing - 03-19-2011, 10:48 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-20-2011, 03:46 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-20-2011, 03:48 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-20-2011, 03:52 PM
Nuclear Power - by Hoot Gibson - 03-20-2011, 03:55 PM
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Nuclear Power - by Hoot Gibson - 03-20-2011, 03:56 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-20-2011, 04:00 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-20-2011, 04:01 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-20-2011, 04:03 PM
Nuclear Power - by Hoot Gibson - 03-20-2011, 04:10 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-20-2011, 04:10 PM
Nuclear Power - by Hoot Gibson - 03-20-2011, 04:12 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-20-2011, 04:12 PM
Nuclear Power - by Hoot Gibson - 03-20-2011, 04:16 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-20-2011, 04:17 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-20-2011, 04:20 PM
Nuclear Power - by Old School - 03-20-2011, 04:29 PM
Nuclear Power - by Hoot Gibson - 03-20-2011, 04:31 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-20-2011, 07:21 PM
Nuclear Power - by Hoot Gibson - 03-20-2011, 08:05 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-21-2011, 11:15 AM
Nuclear Power - by TheRealThing - 03-21-2011, 02:37 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-21-2011, 02:45 PM
Nuclear Power - by TheRealVille - 03-21-2011, 07:40 PM
Nuclear Power - by Old School - 03-21-2011, 08:03 PM
Nuclear Power - by Hoot Gibson - 03-21-2011, 08:10 PM
Nuclear Power - by TheRealThing - 03-21-2011, 09:13 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-22-2011, 08:04 AM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-22-2011, 08:05 AM
Nuclear Power - by Old School - 03-22-2011, 06:09 PM
Nuclear Power - by TheRealThing - 03-23-2011, 08:09 PM
Nuclear Power - by TheRealThing - 03-23-2011, 08:28 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-24-2011, 05:59 PM
Nuclear Power - by TheRealThing - 03-25-2011, 05:09 PM
Nuclear Power - by Old School - 03-25-2011, 06:45 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-26-2011, 09:52 AM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-26-2011, 10:02 AM
Nuclear Power - by Old School - 03-26-2011, 11:05 AM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-26-2011, 08:05 PM
Nuclear Power - by TheRealThing - 03-29-2011, 02:10 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-29-2011, 03:00 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-29-2011, 03:01 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-29-2011, 03:05 PM
Nuclear Power - by Hoot Gibson - 03-29-2011, 07:44 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-29-2011, 10:49 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-29-2011, 10:50 PM
Nuclear Power - by Hoot Gibson - 03-29-2011, 11:14 PM
Nuclear Power - by TheRealThing - 03-30-2011, 03:10 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 03-31-2011, 01:24 PM
Nuclear Power - by TheRealThing - 03-31-2011, 11:46 PM
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Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 04-01-2011, 03:02 PM
Nuclear Power - by TheRealThing - 04-02-2011, 08:13 PM
Nuclear Power - by tvtimeout - 04-05-2011, 03:57 PM
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