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05-03-2011, 04:44 PM
tvtimeout Wrote:RT, I wish you felt as strongly about keeping the government out of my personal life as you fight to keep them out of my wallet.
I think this is where I disagree with the Republicans the most. The republicans want to tell me how I should live, who I should marry, how many times I can get married, all using the government to do so.
I would like to point out that I am against gay marriage, prostitution, gambling, over drinking, over eating, over well just about every thing. I can barely keep my house in order with one wife, why would someone want many is beyond me. I think everything should be closed on Sundays. I think people should never do drugs. However, all of these are just my opinions, a person should not be forced to live by my opinion. They should have the right to make up their own mind about right/wrong as long as they don't interfer with me and my basic rights.
However, the right will come down with their interpretation of the Bible (protestant New King James, NIV, Oringinal King James or Catholic which ever bible you prefer) and say this is how we all must live. The muslim will come down the Koran and say this is how we all must live. The Jew will come down and bring the O.T. and say this is how we all must live.
I say that you must live free to your own accord as long as you don't interfer with any other person. Here is my reason why: God made us free to choose, who am I to take away choice? It is up to Him in my opinion, I will live my life to what I think God has for me to live not dictated to me by some party on either side.
Sorry about the rant but when people talk about morality and only look through what they think everyone else should live by, it really erks me. As well as it erks me when they take my money for some cause I do not believe in or think it could be done a better way!
You quoted me tvto, didn't you notice my statement which was intended to draw attention to the dubious persuit of the self proclaimed higher beings in govenment that suppose themselves to be in a position to legislate on moral issues?
My position is that the concept of morality, much less the practice, is an edict handed down to man from the hand of God. Therefore the Bible being His infallable and inerrant Word, is the ultimate and only authority on the subject. The idea is that godly men in elected office would have some measure of sway over the legislative machinations coming out of Washington, state and local governments. It is the responsibility of the church to reach as many for Christ as possible to increase the odds of the Christian men and women getting elected to public office.
You have the same argument the Pharisees made to Christ 2000 years ago when they complained about the taxes they had to pay. God endorsed the adherance to the laws and dictates of government when He said "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's". Can you just imagine what kind of foolishness Caesar used his taxes for? Such is the nature of government. In our system fortunately we have some say about how our money is spent. This why I continue to stress to you and others that in all the world, and in all of history, the greatest country and system of government ever is here in the USA. Right has great sway over what is done in this country. By the way, I challenge you to find a situation or example of a nation or society in the scriptures that depict a social situation such as the one that you describe in your posts.
I really don't see how you or anyone can say that the repulicans dictate to people how they are to live, or how many times or to whom they can marry.
As far as I can tell they use the Bible as a model for marriage and as a general guide for what is moral, after all, God is the authority on those issues is He not? Don't tell me you're one of those that trully believe the Bible is open to any interpretation that may be dreamed up. If that were true how could God judge man since He will use His written Word to do so?
In many cases men have used the law to side step issues that are inconvient when tested by the precepts of scripture, so, they use the law of our land to circumvent God's law. Roe v Wade comes to mind as an example, and a few notable others that cannot be morally justified in light of the scriptures. To endorse immoral practices with our laws make us complicitous in that we make things legal that are not. That is why voting from an informed position is so important and why we should always vote for the candidate we most closely can support. If in fact, as stated in scripture, He does know "the number of hairs on our head", He knows how we vote. Magnify that same responsibily by a vast margin and you will have a good indicator as to the seriousness of the measure for which legislators are sure to be held into account. If you were running things how would you avoid this responsiblity that all law makers have over their heads when they try to legislate? I would think there would be quite a bit of pressure to do what is right.
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Judge Rutherford's Proposed Tax - by Shady Grady - 05-01-2011, 11:29 PM
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Judge Rutherford's Proposed Tax - by jetpilot - 05-02-2011, 07:21 PM
Judge Rutherford's Proposed Tax - by Hoot Gibson - 05-02-2011, 08:41 PM
Judge Rutherford's Proposed Tax - by Shady Grady - 05-02-2011, 11:23 PM
Judge Rutherford's Proposed Tax - by tvtimeout - 05-03-2011, 10:40 AM
Judge Rutherford's Proposed Tax - by tvtimeout - 05-03-2011, 10:46 AM
Judge Rutherford's Proposed Tax - by TheRealThing - 05-03-2011, 04:44 PM
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Judge Rutherford's Proposed Tax - by TheRealThing - 05-03-2011, 07:27 PM
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