[TheRealThing]

Obama Causing Panic? I head the same thing you did,

The Repubs and Dems are calling it the end of the world as we know it. Its crazy, The Debt Ceiling has been raised 102 times. Just raise it again and quit playing with our lives for votes.

Since you mentioned that let's get to the point in fact, that is stopping the agreement from happening right now. Everybody except a scant few of the tea party caucus is ready to cut their losses, pass a resolution and live to fight another day. The president had insisted that any legislation regarding the debt ceiling must take us past the 2012 presidential election and subsequent races for the House and Senate. The reason cited for this according to Mr Obama is that the nation doesn't need more of the stress associated to legislation dealing with our national debt right now.

Of course the real reason is because he needs the horror of this moment to fade from the voter's consciousness. In his mind he'll be able to rationalize all this as being caused by the right wing extremist republicans. In other words he is willing to put his reelection proccess above the needs of the nation and the world and, yet again, blame the republicans. I guarantee you he THINKS he is way more important than I do. But, back to the point, Obama likes to compare himself to Reagan, well, Reagan's administration raised the debt ceiling 18 times in 8 years. That's right, we voted to raise the debt ceiling every 5 and 1/2 months or so. First time in history now we are supposed to give the president a one and a half year window, enough slack so he won't have to take up the issue until 2013, AFTER THE ELECTION. The republicans are very reluctant to oblige him and I don't blame them a bit. Here we are again, supposedly, the president and the dems are saying can't we all come together, when in fact they are trying to gain an advantage for the elections of 2012 by trying to pass legislation that guarantees the dems an unfair advantage and, to add salt to the wound, manuvering the republicans into a corner forcing THEM to vote for it!:yikes: If that artificially long debt ceiling time frame wasn't part of Reid's Bill the republicans would come together and comprimise for the sake of Americans.

This country has functioned and progressed with great success for over 200 years. All the right is saying, paraphrasing," if it aint broke don't fix it ", and meanwhile the left wants to make America like a European country. My history book said early settlers to America came here to get away from the oppression of european injustice. Obama promised on the campaign trail that he would "fundamentally change the face of America". Folks, that gave me a chill, and, events of late seem to validate my concerns. To state the nature of the conflict we have struggled with since Obama's election as concisely as possible; Obama and his legions of faithful are indeed trying to "change" everything and, the conservative right is trying to stop them, why, because we know everything works just fine as it is! Are you kidding me? ONE man is going to raise his own status to the point where we are supposed to all sit at his feet and let him totally redefine America?

I heard today that all we have to do is freeze spending for 6 years at the 2011 levels and we will be flush by the end of that period. Please count me in! I'll be interested to see how many people on here rush to defend the leftist policies being rammed down America's throat right now after everybody's 401k's and pensions are reduced to half or less of their present values, even while inflation is at work erasing the other half.