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Should Women Be Pastors?
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Wildcatk23 Wrote:Didn't Paul say something about Women should be Silent.

I think he did in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35. Here's the bible verse:

1 Corinthians 14:26-40 Wrote:26) How is it then, brethren? Whenever you come together, each of you has a psalm, has a teaching, has a tongue, has a revelation, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification. 27) If anyone speaks in a tongue, let there be two or at the most three, each in turn, and let one interpret. 28) But if there is no interpreter, let him keep silent in church, and let him speak to himself and to God. 29) Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others judge.
30) But if anything is revealed to another who sits by, let the first keep silent. 31) For you can all prophesy one by one, that all may learn and all may be encouraged. 32) And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33) For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.
34) Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says. 35) And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church.
36) Or did the word of God come originally from you? Or was it you only that it reached? 37) If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things which I write to you are the commandments of the Lord. 38) But if anyone is ignorant, let him be ignorant. 39) Therefore, brethren, desire earnestly to prophesy, and do not forbid to speak with tongues. 40) Let all things be done decently and in order.

Here's the link that I got that from: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%2014:26-40&version=NKJV

When I was talking with someone a few months ago, they pointed out something from a website. Here's the quote from the website:

Religious Tolerance Wrote:1 Corinthians 14:34-35: This is a curious passage. It appears to prohibit all talking by women during services. But it contradicts verse 11:5, in which St. Paul states that women can actively pray and prophesy during services. It is obvious to some theologians that verses 14:33b to 36 are a later addition, added by an unknown counterfeiter* with little talent at forgery.* Bible scholar, Hans Conzelmann, comments on these three and a half verses: "Moreover, there are peculiarities of linguistic usage, and of thought. [within them]." 2 If they are removed, then Verse 33a merges well with Verse 37 in a seamless transition. Since they were a later forgery*, they do not fulfill the basic requirement to be considered inerrant: they were not in the original manuscript written by Paul. This is a very important passage, because much many denominations stand against female ordination is based on these verses.

Here's the link that I got this from: http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_bibl.htm

I just read something that I didn't see earlier. You might've noticed the asterisk beside the word "forgery" and "counterfeiter". If you scroll down, the website goes on to say that it put those asterisks beside those words for this reason:

Religious Tolerance Wrote:* Note re: forged and counterfeit writings:

We are using these terms with reference to today's value systems. For example, if someone wrote in 1999 an essay in the form of an encyclical by Pope John XXIII, and attempted to pass it off as an unknown work of the Pope, then we would consider it a forgery or counterfeit. If someone write today a speech in the style of George Washington and tried to publish it as if it were written by the first President, we would also consider it a forgery.

But things were a little different in the 1st and 2nd century CE. It was quite an accepted practice at that time for followers of a great philosopher or religious thinker to write material which emulated their leader. They passed it off as if that leader wrote it. This was not considered unethical at the time. We use the term forger and counterfeiter in this essay to emphasize that the passages were written by person or persons unknown. It does not necessarily indicate that the passages are any less valid than other texts in the Bible. The term means simply that the passages were added to the writings of the original author(s) by an unknown person.

Just to let everyone know, I'm not sure how credible the above website is. Before believing these quotes, please look at the website yourself along with any other reliable sources.
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Should Women Be Pastors? - by Wildcatk23 - 08-08-2011, 07:40 PM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by TheGuyYouLoveToHate - 08-08-2011, 09:07 PM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by LWC - 08-08-2011, 10:46 PM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by Wildcatk23 - 08-08-2011, 11:08 PM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by OffTheHook - 08-09-2011, 12:46 AM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by Deathstar 80 - 08-09-2011, 01:39 AM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by LWC - 08-09-2011, 01:46 AM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by johnnyt - 08-09-2011, 02:55 AM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by Aslan - 08-09-2011, 03:06 AM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by RunItUpTheGut - 08-09-2011, 05:35 AM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by Bob Seger - 08-09-2011, 08:02 AM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by LWC - 08-09-2011, 08:52 AM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by Westside - 08-09-2011, 09:30 AM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by Bob Seger - 08-09-2011, 10:00 AM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by zaga_fan - 08-09-2011, 10:10 AM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by StrayBullet - 08-10-2011, 12:31 AM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by Wildcatk23 - 08-10-2011, 12:32 AM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by Wildcatk23 - 08-10-2011, 12:37 AM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by OffTheHook - 08-10-2011, 12:49 AM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by OrangenowBlue - 08-10-2011, 03:57 PM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by LWC - 08-10-2011, 06:52 PM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by cuppett777 - 08-12-2011, 12:36 AM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by cuppett777 - 08-12-2011, 12:37 AM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by cuppett777 - 08-12-2011, 12:39 AM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by cuppett777 - 08-12-2011, 12:44 AM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by LWC - 08-12-2011, 12:35 PM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by OrangenowBlue - 08-12-2011, 08:59 PM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by Wildcatk23 - 08-12-2011, 10:43 PM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by cuppett777 - 08-13-2011, 07:52 PM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by cuppett777 - 08-13-2011, 07:53 PM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by LWC - 08-13-2011, 08:09 PM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by cuppett777 - 08-13-2011, 08:38 PM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by cuppett777 - 08-13-2011, 08:39 PM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by cuppett777 - 08-13-2011, 08:40 PM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by cuppett777 - 08-13-2011, 08:41 PM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by cuppett777 - 08-13-2011, 08:41 PM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by cuppett777 - 08-13-2011, 08:42 PM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by cuppett777 - 08-13-2011, 08:43 PM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by LWC - 08-13-2011, 10:01 PM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by Wildcatk23 - 08-13-2011, 10:56 PM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by cuppett777 - 08-13-2011, 11:39 PM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by cuppett777 - 08-13-2011, 11:47 PM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by OrangenowBlue - 08-15-2011, 03:20 AM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by OrangenowBlue - 08-15-2011, 03:21 AM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by cuppett777 - 08-17-2011, 10:02 AM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by cuppett777 - 08-17-2011, 10:04 AM
Should Women Be Pastors? - by johnnyt - 08-17-2011, 12:49 PM
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