[TheRealVille]

You still wouldn't just shut Ashland/Marathon down because the rcc got past it's prime. Building new units would be cheaper than mothballing the refinery, right?

In this case, EPA regulations are the immediate threat to close the power plants, not their age, that's just the way they're spinning it to get you on board. The owners will replace the plants as they phase new ones on line unless they are forced to close them because of clean air regulations. So you're telling me that you are for all this then?

You know what is coming as a result of these closings and the loss of power they generate. Electical rates will go up, skyrocket that is. When your hero was on the campaign trail during his run for president he made several statements that really worried me. One was that rates would skyrocket, the other was as a nation we wronly account for up to 67% of the world's total energy consumption yearly. He stated further that we cannot continue to do that. My question is why not? Who is he to decide what the whole nation and it's people should be doing?

I believe he will get some commission to go through the sham of some supposedly credible process to decide how much power is enough for your family to use for a year or a month. This will be a hand picked democratic hit squad and it will all take place behind closed doors of course. In any event, soon your utilities will be enormously expensive because regulations will choke the life out the free enterprize practices that at one time guaranteed you and yours cheap gas, electricity, natural gas, water and you name it. If your power usage for a month runs more than your allotment, ration or what ever you want to call it, the penalty will be an outrageous exponential kilowatt hour surcharge. Most people won't be able to pay for anything past their allotment. Life as we know it will be gone. Any extra power usage will be a chilling prospect as things like pool pumps, hot showers, air conditioning and a host of other things that most Americans have taken for granted for their entire lifetime will be gone, priced out of feasibility by one guy who thinks he should decide how your life will be from here on out.

Those things are included in the list of civil liberties and freedoms we now enjoy even though they are threatened. So blinded by your contempt for republicans you are willing to regress 70 years in time and give up everything you've worked for? It won't be just energy. 401k's and pensions will shrink into a mere shadow of what they once were.

When the our government starts shutting down industry for the sake of their idea of clean air while EVERY other nation on earth doesn't try to help a bit, it's over. Do you really support that? All this happening while we sit on enough fossil fuel to power our country for hundreds of years. It's got to be the most rediculous thing I've ever heard. I don't know about your house but, when I step out in the morning the air is sweet and clean. Present industry standards that control pollutants are far and away more stringent than the world around us. Obama wants us to lead by example by giving up our way of life. For me, it just takes more than one bozo from Kenya to get me to totally give up everything I've worked for and forsake the American dream just because he thinks he wants to redefine what that should be.

:thatsfunn :hilarious: Are you sure you and Hoot aren't brothers?