[vundy33]

[quote=vundy33]Where the **** do any of you think you get an opinion on the subject? If you're not active/reserve military, then we say **** you.

We, in the infantry, for the most part DO NOT give a shit if someone is gay, pretty much all of us know if a guy in the unit is gay, and usually he's or they are some of the best damn infantryman you'll see. I would say that 9 out of 10 infantry soldier could give a shit less about the end of DADT, and are just glad it's over.

It seems to me that most of the hating on gays in the military comes from the fat, non-combat, POG, ***** ass Fobbits that have nothing else to do except bitch and moan about something 24/7. You all have no idea. Some of you that have posted in here may be active military, but I doubt it. In our opinion, if you aren't active military or at the very LEAST a veteran, then you don't fucking rate an opinion.


Excuse my language, but I'm quite sick of homophobic bullshit and this argument all together. If getting rid of DADT does anything, it will make the services better. Mark that shit down. And that's coming from a combat veteran infantryman with 4 years in.

Our opinion is exactly the opposite of what dumbass, unknowing civilians think it is in my experience in[B] discussing the subject






^PREFACE- NOBODY ON HERE EVER EVEN HINTED THEY HATE GAYS!

With the rapier wit and eloquent style you have demonstrated on here, I can only imagine the profound insight and wisdom that would come from any discussions in which you were involved. In fact I'd bet any eavesdropper would likely hve mistaken your conversation as some sort of book review between laureates of renown.

But on a serios note, likely you are too narrow or too young or both, to have much of an opiinion about much of anything. Still, it's easy to see why you're infantry, I'm sure you do it well and, I'm glad you're out there defending where all the blood is actually spilled. It's probably better if you let the other guys do most of the heavy thinking, and talking for that matter. You don't have the time or the inclination to screw around with what might be ethical, you've got a job to do, right?

I would say this to you though. Many of us on this board served. [B]All U.S. fighting men by definition are to serve with honor and respect. There are a lot of very good reasons why those two traits are fundamental must haves for those who serve. Evidently, you couldn't imagine in your wildest dreams that you could be spitting your insults at officers and high end NCO's but, I can assure you that's exactly what you're doing. I for one have never heard a combat veteran talk like you do. Sounds like barracks bravado to me but, in any case, what ever you need to do to keep your edge, go for it. The thing about being a good rooster is knowing when to crow, yours was premature. But, though I may appreciate you sevice, like Seger said, serve or don't serve. Nobody ever suggested on this thread that gays should not seve, always have and always will. But, that wasn't quite good enough for the left,they want that lifestyle to be validated by the military and socially through the courts. That is one of the precepts of Secular Humanism. This, they believe will give them the respect they crave, they're tired of living in shame. That is what drove DADT, the social agenda of the ultra liberal left was foisted upon the military, over the objections of the military chain of command. It could never have happened without the tremendous power that an uber-left president brought to bear on all the brances of the militay Chiefs of Staff.

My argument is this, how can man regulate or change or overturn God's Law? Since God created us and everything that constitues the universe around us and has proclaimed Himself the Begining and the End, the Alpha and Omega, the Great I Am, He is omniscient and omnipotent, and despite what anybody anywhere says, HE WILL JUDGE EVERY MAN thus, I believe that is a reasonable question to ask since He has made His position on this matter clear. And especially when one takes into consideration that God has warned man that if we try to change His law in any point, even so much as the dotting of an i or the crossing of a t, the judgements of God will be added to the men who try. That's pretty stiff even for a combat vet 4 years in, wouldn't you say?

And what the hell? I thought you were against gays serving openly, Bob Seger as well. I usually agree with you on topics in this board, but if you disagree with it, then we disagree on it.