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01-02-2012, 12:01 PM
vundy33 Wrote:lol man, you can think what you want, but the only Christians I hold to that crappy standard are the ones who show me they deserve to be there. I've heard those same Christians say the exact same things you're saying and every other Christian has said in this thread, but I don't decide you're the same as them unless you show me that.As I said in my previous post. Whom ever anyone picks to be their god is their choice. I have no problem with muslims, buddist, hindo's, greeks or any other religion. My Bible speaks of the sons of god having relations with women, so I won't deny that it happened. I personally do not get outraged at other religions, I do get upset with any and all that take it to the extreme, even Christianity. There is good and bad in this ole world and in ever sector of society. I try to be the best man I can be and chose to base it off of the Holy Bible, If it is wrong, what damage could have come from it? It could have done nothing but helped me live a better life and maybe become a better person for it. From reading your post, I can see and understand that a "church" left a bad taste in your mouth. None of us are perfect, even the ones I have attended. So I let God lead me to where I felt comfortable and safe. I do hope that you find the good in it and I know that its hard, but there is good out there.
Alot of the things I've said are only found in a few bad apples, but, alot of the things I mentioned are found in alot of Christians...this kind of explains it to me, seen it on Facebook.
"You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about Gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who the gave birth to a man-god who was killed, came back to life and then ascended into Heaven"
"You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of Gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of your God"
Those two quotes probably sum most Christians up for me from my experiences...there is no problem in thinking your God is the only God, or thinking that radical Muslims are evil and all that...but what gets me is when those Christians get so shook up and mad when anyone even hints at another God, or try and shrug off how many people have been absolutely destroyed because of Christianity, and religion as a whole.
I mean really, what good has religion done the world besides cause us to fight?? All I've seen it do is make a Taliban yell out "Allahu Akbar" before they blow themselves up, and make them call us dirty Jews when we're loading them in a bird for medical treatment when I'm clearly not a Jew..or be a reason behind an American troop deciding to open up on a group of civilians because they were at the wrong place at the wrong time and because they were "those damn Muslims are goin to hell anyway". That's not even to mention all of the other wars and atrocities that I haven't witnessed committed against other people all over the world in the name of religion. I'm really, really trying to find something good in it all, but I'm having a hard time at it.
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Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by LWC - 12-30-2011, 07:04 PM
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Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by TheRealVille - 12-30-2011, 07:46 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by WideRight05 - 12-30-2011, 07:52 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by #1 Blackcat Fan - 12-30-2011, 08:21 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by WideRight05 - 12-30-2011, 08:29 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by Wildcatk23 - 12-30-2011, 09:31 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by Bob Seger - 12-30-2011, 10:27 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by vundy33 - 12-30-2011, 10:35 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by Bob Seger - 12-30-2011, 11:00 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by vundy33 - 12-30-2011, 11:06 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by Bob Seger - 12-30-2011, 11:38 PM
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Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by vundy33 - 12-30-2011, 11:58 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by WideRight05 - 12-31-2011, 12:05 AM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by vundy33 - 12-31-2011, 12:15 AM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by WideRight05 - 12-31-2011, 12:16 AM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by WideRight05 - 12-31-2011, 12:20 AM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by Bob Seger - 12-31-2011, 12:23 AM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by Old School - 12-31-2011, 12:44 AM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by TheRealVille - 12-31-2011, 02:48 AM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by TheRealVille - 12-31-2011, 02:51 AM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by RunItUpTheGut - 12-31-2011, 03:40 AM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by Bob Seger - 12-31-2011, 05:06 AM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by vundy33 - 12-31-2011, 06:55 AM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by TheRealVille - 12-31-2011, 10:48 AM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by LWC - 12-31-2011, 11:16 AM
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Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by Stardust - 12-31-2011, 12:01 PM
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Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by Hoot Gibson - 12-31-2011, 12:25 PM
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Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by LWC - 12-31-2011, 12:45 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by vundy33 - 12-31-2011, 02:58 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by Jarons - 12-31-2011, 05:14 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by Crossbones - 12-31-2011, 06:39 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by vundy33 - 12-31-2011, 07:10 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by TheRealVille - 01-01-2012, 12:35 AM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by LWC - 01-01-2012, 03:17 AM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by LWC - 01-01-2012, 03:30 AM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by vundy33 - 01-01-2012, 08:53 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by TheRealVille - 01-01-2012, 09:18 PM
Atheist and Agnostic Ideals - by vundy33 - 01-01-2012, 09:21 PM
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