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06-16-2012, 01:18 AM
TheRealVille Wrote:Yea, as I remember in history class, they left England to shed themselves of that church state. Christians have tried for decades to make the US a christian state, but history and documents won't allow it. I'm still waiting on your "christian nation" proof.
LOL, what history class was that anyway?
Wow. Your batting average is zero these days. And, I can say with certainty that I have no idea what you are talking about when you say England was a church state. What is a church state anyway? The colonists fled England to get away from the tyranny of King George III. The crown meddled in the church incessantly and was the source of great angst for his subjects. Thus, among the first orders of business for the framers of the US constitution is contained in the first amendment.
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Federal level;
The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution explicitly forbids the federal government from enacting any law respecting a religious establishment, and thus forbids either designating an official church for the United States, or interfering with State and local official churches — which were common when the First Amendment was enacted. It did not prevent state governments from establishing official churches. Connecticut continued to do so until it replaced its colonial Charter with the Connecticut Constitution of 1818; Massachusetts retained an establishment of religion in general until 1833. As of 2010, Article III of the Massachusetts constitution still provided, "... the legislature shall, from time to time, authorize and require, the several towns, parishes, precincts, and other bodies politic, or religious societies, to make suitable provision, at their own expense, for the institution of the public worship of God, and for the support and maintenance of public Protestant teachers of piety, religion and morality, in all cases where such provision shall not be made voluntarily."
State level;
All current State constitutions do mention a Creator, but include guarantees of religious liberty parallel to the First Amendment. The constitutions of eight states (Arkansas, Maryland, Massachusetts, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas) also contain clauses that prohibit atheists from holding public office. However, these clauses were held by the U.S. Supreme Court to be unenforceable in the 1961 case of Torcaso v. Watkins, where the court ruled unanimously that such clauses constituted a religious test incompatible with the religious test prohibition in Article 6 Section 3 of the United States Constitution.
END EXCERPT--- WIKI
The last part of your statement, which I have bolded and enlarged, is absurd. You can't come up with a single documented case to support this baloney. You should stick with the truth if you want to be taken seriously. One would literally need to redact thousands of references to God from our nations historical documents to make your assertion seem true.
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